Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of longest streams of Oregon/archive1
- The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.
The list was promoted by The Rambling Man 16:16, 23 September 2010 [1].
List of longest streams of Oregon (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
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- Nominator(s): Finetooth (talk) 17:11, 13 September 2010 (UTC); LittleMountain5 22:07, 13 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Seventy-six rivers and creeks of at least 50 miles (80 km) in length flow through or entirely within Oregon. I am nominating a sortable list of these streams for featured status because, in addition to meeting the criteria, it is unique and might serve as a model for similar lists for other states. I could not have completed this list without a lot of help from others. Little Mountain 5, the co-nominator, created the map and found many missing bits of data that eluded me. When we had gone as far as we could, Kmusser and Pfly tracked down the rest of the missing data in national GIS datasets. Ruhrfisch, whose List of tributaries of Larrys Creek served as a good model of a stream list, contributed high-value advice before and during a peer review. H1nkles also helped with a peer review, and Shannon1 helped with advice on the article's talk page and created a sidebar article, Cow Creek (Oregon), that turned one of the list's red links into a working link. Finetooth (talk) 17:11, 13 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Support - as noted above, I peer reviewed this and find it more than meets the FL criteria. I am already working on research for a similar article for Pennsylvnaia streams. Very well done and a nice example of collaboration, Ruhrfisch ><>°° 17:32, 13 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Thank you for your kind words and support as well as your PR and earlier help. Finetooth (talk) 21:25, 13 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 09:44, 14 September 2010 (UTC)[reply] |
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Comments (all minor, and I didn't participate in the PR, so apologies if I cover already-covered ground)
The Rambling Man (talk) 18:42, 13 September 2010 (UTC)[reply] |
Resolved comments from Sandman888 (talk) 06:30, 15 September 2010 (UTC)[reply] |
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:: Most of the rivers are only denoted in blue, should it then be black&white to comply with access? Sandman888 (talk) 20:05, 13 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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- Support though I wd like gallery in bottom (if you must have it) and prefer the title to be "List of streams of..." avoiding longest. That would open for complete lists of streams of oregon to be recorded. Eventually. Sandman888 (talk) 06:30, 15 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Thank you very much for your support. Just as an aside, I'll mention that there is a List of rivers of Oregon (probably mis-named). It is already quite big, and the Oregon project's hope is that someday it will be a complete list of named streams (creeks, sloughs, etc., as well as rivers) in Oregon. Finetooth (talk) 14:03, 15 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support and comment/question I trust that the red links will be blue soon. Is the body of water in southeast Oregon Donner und Blitzen as it says on the map or is that a typo? Lovely galleries. I am a fan. Dincher (talk) 22:36, 14 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Thank you very much for your support of the list and the gallery. :) Yes, it is the Donner und Blitzen River, German for thunder and lightning. Finetooth and I have been working on the redlinks (
soon to come!), and Shannon1 wrote one as well. Eventually there should at least be a stub for every article. Sincerely, LittleMountain5 23:01, 14 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]- I thought it was right, I just wanted to make sure. I suppose I could've checked myself. Another question that I forgot from earlier. Is there a reason why you have so many links to the same rivers, specifically the Snake and the Columbia in the table. I think one link to each river in the table should do the trick, but that's up to you. Other users might call it overlinking and get fussy about it. Dincher (talk) 23:16, 14 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Yes, because it's sortable table (see The Rambling Man's collapsed comments above). Cheers, LittleMountain5 23:51, 14 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Makes sense. It would be a neat trick if a sortable table could automatically make the link closest to the top the only link in the table for the particular article. I imagine it could be done, but certainly not me. Dincher (talk) 23:54, 14 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Thank you for your support and comments. I've recently done articles for Jordan Creek (Owyhee River) and Dry River (Crooked River) from this list that were long enough to nominate for DYKs. The DYKs are still pending. More to come. Finetooth (talk) 01:51, 15 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Makes sense. It would be a neat trick if a sortable table could automatically make the link closest to the top the only link in the table for the particular article. I imagine it could be done, but certainly not me. Dincher (talk) 23:54, 14 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Yes, because it's sortable table (see The Rambling Man's collapsed comments above). Cheers, LittleMountain5 23:51, 14 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- I thought it was right, I just wanted to make sure. I suppose I could've checked myself. Another question that I forgot from earlier. Is there a reason why you have so many links to the same rivers, specifically the Snake and the Columbia in the table. I think one link to each river in the table should do the trick, but that's up to you. Other users might call it overlinking and get fussy about it. Dincher (talk) 23:16, 14 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Support; as I paged down I was thinking, "Surely there'll be a map, right...?" and then there was, and it was of such high quality I nearly applauded. Seriously. And as Dincher, supporting on the assumption that the redlinks will be fixed. Good job, Oregon project :) --Golbez (talk) 17:20, 16 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Thank you very much for the kind words and support. Little Mountain 5 gets all the credit for the map. Finetooth (talk) 02:31, 17 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- I'm flattered, thank you! :) (Finetooth gets all the credit for having the idea for the map.) LittleMountain5 22:45, 17 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from Nergaal (talk) 02:35, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply] |
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*Question would it be possible to have an extra column with the length within the state? The map might be more useful if used near the intro. Also, it is quite unusual to have a gallery before the table. Why is the "Remarks" section not named "Source"? It is a really nice list otherwise. Nergaal (talk) 18:00, 17 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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- Support once you add the two notes to the Columbia and Snake. Everything else looks nice, and the position in the images looks good. The 12th one that you missed is Cow Cr. Nergaal (talk) 02:35, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Thank your for your advice and support. Meanwhile, with the help of Ruhrfisch, we have created stub or start articles for all of the remaining red links except Catlow Valley, which I unlinked as unlikely to have an article any time soon. All of the links in the article are now blue. Also, before noticing your support, I decided to try to reach consensus on the gallery location by moving it to near the bottom. If somebody reverses that decision, I don't mind. Finetooth (talk) 04:31, 21 September 2010 (UTC)\[reply]
- I have added the notes about the Columbia and the Snake. Finetooth (talk) 05:02, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- I added the URL for the ref used in the Columbia and Snake notes, and was bold and moved the gallery back to the top as I thought the gallery and panorama together looked bad (poor layout). Ruhrfisch ><>°° 14:38, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Much obliged on both counts. Using your calculation and Nergaal's source, I have added a note giving the length of the Klamath River inside Oregon. Finetooth (talk) 15:40, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment—
The external link to http://geonames2.nrcan.gc.ca/cgi-bin/v9/sima_unique_v9?english?JATIP?C is timing out at the moment.Ucucha 00:55, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks Ucucha. I switched the source to BC Geographical Names, which gives the same coordinates for the lake as the Canadian national database. I don't know why the larger site wigs out from time to time, but the provincial one seems stable. Finetooth (talk) 04:09, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks. Ucucha 13:17, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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