Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of former county courts in Wales
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The list was promoted 15:36, 14 February 2008.
Self-nom. Similar idea to the List of county courts in England and Wales, which I have nominated for FL status below, except this time it's a fully-referenced list of closed (rather than open) county courts, limited to Wales for the sake of space. Not as many photos as I would like, but (a) tracking down addresses for these old courts isn't easy (b) the buildings they sat in may no longer exist and (c) I've done what I can with Commons and Geograph photos, plus a request for help at WP:WALES. Support as nom. BencherliteTalk 21:10, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
- Why were these courts closed? --Golbez (talk) 01:30, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
- Hmm, fair question! Sometimes the Order (back in the Victorian era) closing the court says it is "inexpedient" to continue holding the court at a particular location or "of advantage" to hold it somewhere else (we're not told why, unfortunately!). Mostly, though, the order is silent on the reason for the closure and, as courts were closed by statutory instrument rather than Act of Parliament, there won't be any Parliamentary debate about each closure. It seems to be the case that smaller courts have gradually been closed to save money e.g. Monmouth was said to have poor accommodation and cost too much for the amount it was used. I've found a couple of quotes in Hansard about court closures which I've added, and if I get a chance to nip to the library to get a quote from Polden's book, I'll do so. BencherliteTalk 09:26, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
- Great, Support! --Golbez (talk) 15:18, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
- I have now added some more information about court closures. BencherliteTalk 18:57, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
- I have also put the references next to the date/fact that they were referencing, rather than have a separate column, per Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of county courts in England and Wales (now a FL). BencherliteTalk 12:08, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
- Great, Support! --Golbez (talk) 15:18, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
- Hmm, fair question! Sometimes the Order (back in the Victorian era) closing the court says it is "inexpedient" to continue holding the court at a particular location or "of advantage" to hold it somewhere else (we're not told why, unfortunately!). Mostly, though, the order is silent on the reason for the closure and, as courts were closed by statutory instrument rather than Act of Parliament, there won't be any Parliamentary debate about each closure. It seems to be the case that smaller courts have gradually been closed to save money e.g. Monmouth was said to have poor accommodation and cost too much for the amount it was used. I've found a couple of quotes in Hansard about court closures which I've added, and if I get a chance to nip to the library to get a quote from Polden's book, I'll do so. BencherliteTalk 09:26, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
- Support The lead is unusually large for a list, yet it was interesting to read. Very informative list, well done. --Crzycheetah 08:00, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
- Weak oppose (late in the day, I know, but thought it worth taking the time...!)
- ", as shown below," in the lead is not necessary.
Done - Captions for images should end in full stops unless they're fragments. Done
- "Note –" at the beginning of the List of former courts section - not necessary - keep to the prose. Done
- "(using the historic county names)" - why in parentheses? Just add a comma and then the rest of the sentence. Done
- Suggest making notes not centrally aligned, it looks pretty grim. Done
- CC is used as an abbreviation without explanation. Done
- Some opening dates have refs, some closing dates have refs, but in neither case do all of them. Why? It's inconsistent.
- ", as shown below," in the lead is not necessary.
- There are some issues here, most importantly for me is the issue of consistent citations. The Rambling Man (talk) 22:44, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks for your review. Glad to see that there aren't as many issues with this list as with some others I've seen you reviewing! To explain the references: the 1847 openings are supported by the second general reference; for later openings, and for closings, the date is either referenced directly or if I've said in the notes "Opened in 1920 to replace Foo CC.[ref no]", that [ref no] is the reference for the opening date. I didn't want to overload the table with duplicated footnotes. However, if you want, I will, so Done. Hope that's everything! BencherliteTalk 00:24, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks for your review. Glad to see that there aren't as many issues with this list as with some others I've seen you reviewing! To explain the references: the 1847 openings are supported by the second general reference; for later openings, and for closings, the date is either referenced directly or if I've said in the notes "Opened in 1920 to replace Foo CC.[ref no]", that [ref no] is the reference for the opening date. I didn't want to overload the table with duplicated footnotes. However, if you want, I will, so
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