Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of Star Wars films/archive1

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List of Star Wars films

Featured list candidates/List of Star Wars films/archive1

Nominator(s): Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 21:10, 13 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this for featured list because it includes sufficient and notable information that gives it the requirements to become a featured list. Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 21:10, 13 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Drive-by comments

I have two quick remarks about this list.

The first tables listing the main crew and release details (i.e. the tables in sections 1 and 2) are not sourced. I'm not an expert on whether or not these need sources, but based upon similar featured lists such as List of Marvel Cinematic Universe films and List of James Bond films, you should probably add them.
- References have been added to the tables in the first two sections. Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 01:07, 16 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
The section Technical information should probably be removed. It is not broad enough to be helpful (only focusing narrowly on stunt, music, and sound), and many statements are unsourced or have poor sources (Amazon and IMDb are no good).

The section has been removed. Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 01:07, 16 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

If I have time, I'll do a more thorough review, but this is what I have for now. RunningTiger123 (talk) 14:29, 14 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Aza24

@Some Dude From North Carolina: You are not a significant contributor to this list (in fact you have made 0 edits), please read the blurb at the top of the FLC page. Have you approached all of the main contributors of the list and asked them about nomination? In my opinion there are four users that have contributed ~18,000 characters and if anyone should nominate the list, it should most likely be one of them. Aza24 (talk) 06:41, 15 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Aza24: The top 4 contributors have been messaged. Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 01:08, 16 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I'm all for this, and happy to help in any way I can. I haven't been around the article heavily in recent months so I'll need to comb through and check references and see what needs copyediting. This needs two months of work at the least, perhaps for a mid-December date celebrating the completion of the decades-prognosticated sequel trilogy. I'd also make suggestions for the summary that would be displayed on the main page. It's interesting that a film originally expected to bomb produced such an expansive and successful saga in the complex way that it has. UpdateNerd (talk) 08:48, 16 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Drive-by comments

The spin-off films are given much more weight than the trilogy films are. If anything it should be the opposite.
The Future Films section is dated.
For inspiration, check out List of James Bond films.

Those are some of the big-picture issues. ~ HAL333([2]) 22:58, 16 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Drive-by comment

I also concur that the article needs re-working to give the appropriate amount of emphasis to the different sections. Currently Rogue One gets about as much description as the nine "main" films combined, which is inappropriate....... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:43, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose

I wholeheartedly disagree with the removal of the "Technical information" section. Although as it was written was far from top-notch material, music and special effects are critical aspects of Star Wars films. What would Star Wars be without John Williams? And how can there be no discussion of special effects (Everything from the practical effects in the originals and the continued innovation — and perhaps overuse of CGI — in some of the later films.)? The more I look at this list, I feel the urge to oppose this nomination. A subject of this notability, with the nearly infinite coverage in a variety of sources and references, should be written and sourced to the utmost quality. It really needs to be completely revamped. ~ HAL333([3]) 00:02, 18 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Just to quickly clarify: I suggested removing the Technical information section because it didn't cover enough topics. By only covering a few narrow aspects of production, it gave undue weight to those. If its focus was expanded beyond just music and special effects to focus on development, filming, etc., then I think the section would be much more valuable. RunningTiger123 (talk) 03:15, 18 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with that. I think the same goes for the Rogue One section. It is given undue weight, but the solution is to expand on the other films, not simply remove it. ~ HAL333([4]) 06:34, 18 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Commment - maybe it would be best if this FLC was withdrawn? It was brought to FLC by someone who hadn't been actively involved with it, an editor who has been involved with it is conducive to it being nominated but thinks it needs working on for a good couple of months - maybe it would be best to close this nom and let the Star Wars editors work on it at their own pace and re-nom it when they deem it ready? Just a thought...... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 09:15, 18 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with that idea. RunningTiger123 (talk) 00:39, 19 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I'm going to close this- the nominator was not a major contributor and has been missing since nominating; no one is addressing issues raised in the last month (or editing the list much at all), and there's an oppose with other strong negative opinions present. Whenever the list is ready to return, feel free to re-nominate. --Pres N 04:50, 17 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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