Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of Louisiana state parks/archive1

The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by The Rambling Man 10:30, 2 June 2012 [1].

List of Louisiana state parks

Featured list candidates/List of Louisiana state parks/archive1

Nominator(s): Michael miceli (talk) 01:29, 7 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this for featured list because it covers the topic of current Louisiana state parks well and provides short, encyclopedic information with images for each park. Almost every piece of information is cited. I tried hard to find a citation for every year, but for 2, I just couldn't. I know the years are close though. For comparison to an already featured list see List of Pennsylvania state parks Michael miceli (talk) 01:29, 7 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 07:55, 16 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

Lead, at one para, is too short. It should adequately summarise the whole article.
- What is missing from the article lead? I feel right now it adequately summarizes what the article is about. Do you want a history? Michael miceli (talk) 02:09, 12 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Ensure all "remarks" that are complete sentences have a full stop.
- Complete --Chrismiceli (talk) 01:07, 12 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
"Date Founded" -> Date founded.
- Complete --Chrismiceli (talk) 01:07, 12 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Some of the phrases in the remarks are unknown to me (e.g. tupelo, bottomland... ) - any suitable links for them?
- Complete --Chrismiceli (talk) 01:07, 12 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
"it has a surface area of 6,400 acres (2,590 ha)" in a pakr the size of 643 acres?
- Clarified the park is situation on the lakefront, but does not include the lake. --Chrismiceli (talk) 01:07, 12 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
First general ref has two full stops.
- Complete Michael miceli (talk) 01:40, 12 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Don't mix date formats in the refs.
- Complete Using the long format now for all references, e.g. January 20, 2011 Michael miceli (talk) 01:40, 12 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Use en-dashes, not spaced hyphens in the reference titles.
- Complete --Chrismiceli (talk) 01:07, 12 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Be consistent with author names, is it First Last or Last, First?
- Complete All references are now Last, first Michael miceli (talk) 01:45, 12 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The Rambling Man (talk) 14:42, 10 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I think the "Other names" section should be incorporated into the main table's remarks column.
- I don't like the idea of having another column for just 4 state parks. Should we remove the table and then insert it into the Remarks column? Michael miceli (talk) 02:09, 12 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  - That's what I suggested, yes. The Rambling Man (talk) 07:55, 16 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The two dates which are unreferenced really need to be referenced.
- Found 2 references for year on Grand Isle State Park, still searching frantically for Cypremort Point State Park Michael miceli (talk) 03:38, 12 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  - Keep looking! The Rambling Man (talk) 07:55, 16 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    - Complete - I found one! It's from a blog and not as good a reference as I'd like, but at least it is something for now. --Michael miceli (talk) 23:33, 23 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Support -- I must admit though that I have along with Michael Miceli been actively working on this list. --Chrismiceli (talk) 15:16, 12 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from Giants2008 (Talk) 11:18, 24 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Comments –

The lead is very short at only one paragraph. For a decent-size list, I'd expect to see at least a two-paragraph lead, which should be doable. You could add items like the earliest and most recently opened park to help beef the lead up.
- Complete I added more info, tried to be unbiased and state just interesting facts. Please review my awful prose :) --Michael miceli (talk) 01:47, 20 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
"a division of Louisiana Deparment of Culture, Recreation and Tourism." Could use "the" before Louisiana.
- Complete --Chrismiceli (talk) 02:12, 19 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Same goes for the next-to-last sentence of the lead, before Louisiana State Parks and Recreation Committee.
- Complete --Chrismiceli (talk) 02:18, 19 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
In the table headings, Park Name should have the second word decapitalized.
- Complete --Chrismiceli (talk) 02:13, 19 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Cypremort State Park: The two en dashes in the remarks should both be hyphens instead. Similar fixes are needed for Grand Isle State Park, Hodges Gardens State Park, and Poverty Point Recreation State Park.
- Complete --Chrismiceli (talk) 02:16, 19 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
In the second table, it would be nice to have dashes of some kind for the two blank columns.
- Complete Michael miceli (talk) 02:23, 19 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Personally, I'd feel more comfortable with the list if each of the remarks was sourced, instead of just having a note at the end linking to a general site. Having specific cites makes it easier to verify facts, which is the whole point of having sources in the first place.
- Complete --Chrismiceli (talk) 05:54, 19 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Ref 4 needs an en dash for the page range.
- Complete --Chrismiceli (talk) 02:10, 19 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Refs 23, 24, 30, and 31 need publishers in the citations.
- Complete --Chrismiceli (talk)
Ref 34 could use the PDF designiation that a couple other cites have.
- Complete --Chrismiceli (talk) 02:08, 19 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Giants2008 (Talk) 00:48, 19 April 2012 (UTC) Several more from me, based on a request in the capped comments for further prose reviewing...[reply]

"After The State Parks Commission of Louisiana was formed in 1934". No need to capitalize "The".
- Complete --Michael miceli (talk) 17:42, 13 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
In the next sentence, last parts of "Sam Houston Jones state park" should be capitalized.
- Complete --Michael miceli (talk) 17:42, 13 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Contraction that should be fixed: "weren't".
- Complete, I reworked the sentence to be more natural. Now says (with changes in bold) "In 1966, the National Park Service reviewed Louisiana's state parks system and made many recommendations, which led to specific guidelines and requirements for state parks. Over time, many state parks that did not meet these guidelines were either reclassified as state historic sites or were turned over to local or state agencies." --Michael miceli (talk) 17:42, 13 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Don't need the last word in "$80 million dollars". Giants2008 (Talk) 00:14, 13 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Complete --Michael miceli (talk) 17:42, 13 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from NapHit (talk) 20:08, 23 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Comment

Table does not meet MOS:DTT, you need to col and rowscopes to the table. NapHit (talk) 11:17, 22 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Complete Thanks, I never knew of this! --Chrismiceli (talk) 21:48, 22 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The other table needs to be updated as well, sorry to be a pain. NapHit (talk) 22:28, 22 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Complete No pains here, forgot we had two tables on this article :). Also added alt text to be more accessible. --Chrismiceli (talk) 22:51, 22 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Support NapHit (talk) 20:08, 23 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Subjective opinion, but feel like this could use more content (prose). Such a cool topic. Would just expect more description.76.79.11.122 (talk) 23:07, 5 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

TCO, you really should log in and contribute. The Rambling Man (talk) 11:14, 16 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Support Another excellent list--GoP _T ^C _N 15:02, 19 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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