Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of Lost episodes

List of Lost episodes

The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page. No further edits should be made to this page. The closing editor's comments were: 10 days, 14 support, 0 oppose. Promote. --MarcK 04:24, 9 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This candidacy is the third submission for this list. The list, List of Lost episodes meets all of the Featured List guidelines- accurate, well cited, comprehensive, useful.

The main opposition by editors in the first submission was the list's inclusion of fair use images and whether or not including images in a episode list is appropriate due to copyright violations. Currently there are no images so there is no question of fair use or copyright violation.

The main opposition by editors in the second submission was the overall quality of the list. Editors cited summaries that sounded like promotions, that did not properly summarize the episodes, and that were comprised of one sentence.

Editors since October 2006 have fixed these problems. All summaries are at least two sentences long and summarize both the main plot on the island and the secondary storyline of flashbacks. In addition, the lead has been revamped and each section has information regarding the casting and dates of each season.

This list exemplifies Wikipedia's best work, and I invite you to compare the quality of this list to the quality of currently featured lists of television episodes (examples: List of South Park episodes, List of The Sopranos episodes, and List of Stargate SG-1 episodes). Thank you. -- Wikipedical 07:10, 29 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Strong Support, as nominator. -- Wikipedical 07:10, 29 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support -- Stable LOE -- although I do believe the "# Season" column is redundant to the "#" column. Matthew 07:24, 29 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support Ursasapien (talk) 11:12, 29 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support -- This list is informative, conscice, and meets all requirements for an FLC. Jtrost (^T | C | _#) 12:15, 29 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support as per Jtrost Tphi 13:01, 29 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - I like it, but my issue is with the DVD release section and each of the individual seasons. Mainly, it seems that the information repeats itself in the first couple lines. It seems to me that it would work better to incorporate all that prose in the DVD release section into the individual seasons, as it not only duplicates the dates, but contains a brief synopsis better suited for the lower sections. BIGNOLE (Contact me) 14:03, 29 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- You've made a good point, and I have followed your suggestion. Please take another look at the article. -- Wikipedical 16:55, 29 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support per above. - SigmaEpsilon → ΣΕ 15:41, 29 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment There are still some episode summaries directly copied from the ABC website. I will reword them and add some references, and then I will support. --thedemonhog talk • edits 15:46, 29 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support per Jtrost. My comments:
- ~~In the List of Seasons, the episode counts per season are common knowledge and need no referencing—except the yet-to-air season 4~~ ~~The season 4 count needs a reference~~
- ~~It would be nice if a slightly darker shade of the colors in the list could be found since they are all presently rather light~~

Cliff smith 17:06, 29 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The reason the episode counts are cited is because it is actually not common knowledge. It is disputed whether or not to count the season finales as two episodes or one because they are twice the length of a normal episode. I would like it if they were two episodes, but the ABC website counts them as one each, and it is cited. --thedemonhog talk • edits 17:27, 29 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, I understand about the season episode counts now. But season 4 still needs a reference. Cliff smith 18:59, 29 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Cited. I also changed the colors to best reflect that DVDs. (You can take a look at the DVDs at Amazon if you'd like). -- Wikipedical 19:10, 29 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

New Comment
- In the UK, Season 3 began airing in November, on Sky One, with the second block of episodes airing just four days after their premiere on ABC, unlike Channel 4 that had a large gap of around 5 months in between Seasons 1 and 2. - This is worded awkward. I live in the States, so I'm not sure about how to word this, but it appears like you are trying to talk about how the show was released in the UK as compared to the US.
  - Fixed. -- Wikipedical 19:04, 29 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    - It definitely reads better, but is ABC the "American Broadcasting Company" or the "Associated British Corporation"? I'm pretty sure it's ABC in America, but since you are jumping from the UK channel to the American channel, in the same sentence, it may be good to differentiate. BIGNOLE (Contact me) 19:17, 29 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
      - ABC has consistently been referring to the American channel throughout the article. I didn't really think it causes that much confusion, but to be safe I added the word "American." It now reads, "Each of the next sixteen episodes aired four days after its original American broadcast on ABC." -- Wikipedical 19:40, 29 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- New crash survivors appear on-screen, as well as previously unseen Others, as three of the crash survivors are held in captivity by them. - This probably needs to be rewritten to be more clear. I understand what it says, but it just seems jumbled as you are talking about new crash survivors and the Others...who was held captive by whom?
  - Fixed. -- Wikipedical 19:04, 29 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- It is very likely that there will be a "special" to recap events from Seasons 1, 2, and 3 before the premiere of Season 4. - This seems speculatory. I'm at work, so I can't view the link, but if someone from the show actually said "we're thinking of doing another special", then say that. The way it is worded, it appears as though someone is just making a guess based on previous seasons. If that's the case, then it probably shouldn't be there.
  - Removed- it was speculation and the citation did not validate it. -- Wikipedical 19:04, 29 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Dominic Monaghan will not return to the main cast. - No source. Was he officially confirmed not to be in the cast, or is this an assumption based on the aftermath of the latest season? BIGNOLE (Contact me) 17:48, 29 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  - Cited. -- Wikipedical 19:29, 29 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support: A very good and useful list. I don't see why it shouldn't be featured on the list. --The monkeyhate 17:54, 29 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support on the basis that it is a solid, informative list. Meets criteria and then some. Vaniac 19:41, 29 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support - The list is good. I'd like to see some sources for the Central Europe and Australian release dates. When I added the Amazon link for the UK release it didn't state anything about a release in July, though the page lists that date. I don't know where that is from, but it makes me wonder about a citation for it. I'm sure they are not too hard to find. Nothing else is really wrong, and those things aren't that major. Good work. BIGNOLE (Contact me) 03:16, 30 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support, per above. SergeantBolt 21:49, 30 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support It meets the criteria. --thedemonhog talk • edits 22:47, 30 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support - It meets the listed criteria. Lumaga 14:03, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support as per nom. •97198 talk 15:06, 7 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]