Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of Governors of Alaska

The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by User:The Rambling Man 15:48, 17 September 2008 [1].

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List of Governors of Alaska

previous FLC (12:25, 31 August 2008)

I've fixed almost all of the comments before (except left-aligning the names, I'd like more input on that; all names, even lt. govs?), and so I renominate this. --Golbez (talk) 21:53, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

• Comment Regarding the names, I think that they should be left-aligned. There aren't enough Lt. Govs to make it a problem. Gary King (talk) 03:56, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
  • And to clarify, only the names (commanders, governors, lt. governors, presidents) will be aligned, everything else (dates, parties, numbers) will be centered? --Golbez (talk) 04:50, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
    • Personally I'd like to see all columns left-aligned; the only center-aligned columns should be those that have contents that are the same width. That would include "Notes" and "Terms"; perhaps "Party" also. Gary King (talk) 14:17, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
      •  Done --Golbez (talk) 17:56, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Comments

• The table in the lead should have the numbers centrally aligned
  • Whole table centered, to match the columns in the tables.
• The colours underneath the Governors of Alaska sub-heading should be put into a key, which should be placed after the lead, before the list of governors starts
  • I disagree; it would be out of place there, since it would not be useful again for most of the article. Color is not needed at all to understand the header table, but it does help with the lower table.
• Also the colours require a symbol to used alongside them, to aid visually impaired users
  • No, they don't. Each row is accompanied by a party identifier, which is what the color refers to.
• The notes section underneath the Governors of Alaska table should be placed the reference header, and use letters
  • You need to read the previous FLC, this was explained there. They are footnotes for the tables above, and not citations; this way, we keep references and citations separate. The two should not be mixed, and I see no point in shoving the references to the bottom of the article when they're perfectly happy there below the relevant tables.
• The References don't need letters, this is only for notes
  • You'll have to show me where in the manual of style it is mandated that I can't use the cite templates for citations. --Golbez (talk) 19:44, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Hope this helps NapHit (talk) 18:08, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

• Support, looks good to me; great work once again! (and sorry for missing the nomination the first time around) —Salmar ^(talk) 23:55, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Comments

• I'm personally not a fan of a chart as the lead image. Would it perhaps be preferable to use the image of the current governor in the lead, and move the chart closer to the list of state governors?
  • I could be open to that, yeah. That, or the seal of the governor, if one is available.
• That a governor was elected representing the Alaska Independence party is quite interesting, especially given America's two party system. Could it be explained somewhere how this came about?
  • Other people have proposed a summary of party movements in these lists, but the problem with that is that they tend to be derivative research (i.e. just explaining what the table says), and any further analysis would be original research without a source. For example, would I have to mention and explain every time someone other than D or R won an election? I agree with folks that it's a good idea to have a summary, and yes, even mention some notable cases like this one (or Ventura in MN, or Warren in CA, who was nominated by all 3 parties), but I'm not sure quite what to say. And if omit the summary but mention only the AIP, it seems like I'm singling them out as being weird. Any ideas?
• I'm leaning towards supporting this either way. Regards, Resolute 02:55, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
  • Thanks. --Golbez (talk) 03:23, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
    • I assume based on your comments that you are looking at this globally, i.e., the articles for all 50 states. I think it is a case by case situation. As far as this article is concerned, it could be a simple statement along the lines of "Two people have served as state governor twice, William A. Egan and Walter J. Hickel, the latter of which had nearly 32 years between his terms. Hickel's second term was the leader of the Alaskan Independence Party, who's election came about following the controversial nomination of Arliss Sturgulewski by the Republican party." That may not work well, but it's a thought. I do favour a different lead image though. The seal of the governor would be ideal, if it is a free image. Resolute 03:45, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
      • Eh, good point, that works; I do manage to mention Schwarzenegger in CA's intro. --Golbez (talk) 03:52, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

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