Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of Fullmetal Alchemist episodes/archive1
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Similar to List of Oh My Goddess episodes, I feel the article now qualifies to be a featured list. --Cat out 00:00, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
- Strong object - all pictures not only don't have fair use rationales, but also have no sources. They could be deleted in 7 days. Also, references are cited like external links. Also, lead is very miserable. Renata 02:01, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
- Images cant have sources as they are scans, same applies to all cd and dvd covers. What kind if a fair use rationale are we looking for? If you do not like how referances look, feel free to fix. Its only 2 links. --Cat out 02:12, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
- See for example the rationales on List of South Park episodes. Also if you scanned the covers or took the pictures then you are the source yourself, and that fact must be mentioned in the image description page. -- Rune Welsh | ταλκ 09:58, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
- Very well, I will comply. --Cat out 11:33, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
- Done. --Cat out 11:56, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
- I have also attempted to fix the lead. Since I do not know what exactly you are looking for, I am second guessing myself. --Cat out 12:10, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
- Actually, I just checked the page again and saw that the images are for DVD's. Under fair use you could use DVD cover to ilustrate text about that DVD. The list is not about DVD, but individual episodes, so I don't think fair use is appropriate here. I can buy South Park (below) argument that fair use screenshots are very helpful in identifying the episodes, but not in this case. (Please don't hate me)
- All I am looking in a lead is described in WP:LEAD, one or two nice paragraphs, that's all. About references, a nice shotcut is to use {{cite web}}. I am not fixing them myself because I want others to learn about it and use it in other articles. BTW, awesome job in re-writing the list. Renata 05:02, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
- If you look carefully the episodes are aligned with the dvds they are in. The dvd holds data about the episodes. Placing the picture of the dvd next to the text explaining episodes inside the dvd in my view more than qualifies as fair use. We are talking about the contents of the dvd aren't we? --Cat out 09:53, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
- See for example the rationales on List of South Park episodes. Also if you scanned the covers or took the pictures then you are the source yourself, and that fact must be mentioned in the image description page. -- Rune Welsh | ταλκ 09:58, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
- Images cant have sources as they are scans, same applies to all cd and dvd covers. What kind if a fair use rationale are we looking for? If you do not like how referances look, feel free to fix. Its only 2 links. --Cat out 02:12, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
- Object.
Numerous misspellings and awkward phrasings. In addition, while I realize that the detailed summaries are on the linked pages, there are three or four entries (especially towards the beginning) where more than a line or two is warranted in summary. --maru (talk) contribs 17:45, 16 May 2006 (UTC) - Support Clear, easy to follow, and explains much even to a complete non-fan of anime such as myself. Only issue is that some sentences need to be reworded so that fewer start with 'Ed and Al'. Is the japanese in unicode? I'm not sure if I'm missing a font or what, but I only see about half the japanese glyphs. -Mask 05:04, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
- It looks fine on my computer, but I have japanese characters installed. I am not sure how to check for encoding... Having no understanding of kanji I copy paste it from other sites. --Cat out 07:48, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
- Support ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 18:39, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
- Support. I have cleaned up all of the episode descriptions over the last few days. Now only a handful of them begin with "Ed and Al," the descriptions are longer and more detailed, and I think I've eliminated most, if not all, of the spelling errors and incomplete sentences. Mistamagic28 11:46, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
- Object, image utilisation is outside the realms of fair use, lots of errors in the episode titles. --zippedmartin 02:49, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
- Utilisation is inside the realms of fair use. See recent feature list List of Planetes episodes for a nice example as well as List of Oh My Goddess episodes.
- Errors in episode titles? Such as? They are a copy of the official website.
- --Cat out 22:14, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
- Well, starting with the first title, seems someone doesn't understand that 「」 are just like "" marks round a title, and haven't read wikip guidelines on romanisation:
- 「太陽に挑む者」 Taiyou ni Idomusha
- Not understanding long vowels in katakana:
- 「怪盗サイレーン」 Kaitou Saire-n
- Not understanding furigana:
- 「合成獣(キメラ)が哭く夜」 Kimera ga Naku Yoru
- 「軍の狗<いぬ>の銀時計」 Bun no Inu no Gintokei
- 「我が内なる科人<トガビト>」 Wagauchi Naru Toganin < Togabito >
- Silliness:
- 「マルコー·ノート」 MARUKOO・NOOTO
- Not understanding particles:
- 「一は全、全は一」 Ichi ha Zen, Chon ha Ichi
- I could correct what I percieve to be errors here, but clearly the source is so unreliable there's no guarantee any of it is right at all. On the image front, it seems to me that they're serving a decorative rather than explanitory purpose, FACs with more than a couple of fair use images often questioned, as do *any* pictures that don't closely relate to the article. Complete dvd covers are not integral to a "list of episodes". --zippedmartin 22:46, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
- I am well aware 「」 stand for "" and they were a part of the offical kanji names as seen on episodes themselves and the official website. In english however they were not.
- I am no expert in romanization. I would welcome the corrections. I'd like to note several of the romanizatons are japanese representation of english names or words, romanization is expected to be funny. I'd wish you'd refrain from defining such as "sillyness", lets be more civil.
- The images are not there for decoration. Episodes presented are very closely related to the images, after all the content of the DVD box are the episodes. I cannot think of a better usage of DVD covers. Furthermore what other image would you prefer to have? Episode screenshots? People whelmingly opposed those.
- --Cat out 23:19, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
- I corrected all of the titles so they comply with WP:MOS-JA. ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 23:29, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
- Well, starting with the first title, seems someone doesn't understand that 「」 are just like "" marks round a title, and haven't read wikip guidelines on romanisation: