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Julianne Moore filmography

Featured list candidates/Julianne Moore filmography/archive1

Nominator(s): Cowlibob (talk) 16:10, 24 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Julianne Moore is one of the great modern Hollywood actresses. Known for her dual role on the television soap As the World Turns, and her variety of roles in films ranging from a veteran adult film star in Boogie Nights (1997), a troubled 1950s housewife in The Hours (2002) to her Academy Award winning role as a sufferer of early onset Alzheimer's in Still Alice (2014). This list provides a summary of her film and television career. As always look forward to all the helpful comments to improve it. Cowlibob (talk) 16:10, 24 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from jimknut

Resolved comments from Jimknut (talk) 16:03, 7 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Introduction

"Julianne Moore is an American actress who made her acting debut on television in the television mystery series The Edge of Night in 1984." — "Julianne Moore is an American actress who made her acting debut in 1984 in the television mystery series The Edge of Night." (no need to have "television" in the sentence twice, especially so close together)

"The following year, she made her first appearance in the soap opera As the World Turns which later earned her a Daytime Emmy Award for Outstanding Ingenue in a Drama Series in 1988." — "The following year she made her first appearance in the soap opera As the World Turns, which earned her a Daytime Emmy Award for Outstanding Ingenue in a Drama Series in 1988." (comma not needed after "the following year; ADD comma after As the World Turns; "later" is not necessary as "in 1988" tells us it was later)

"before her breakthrough role in Robert Altman's drama Short Cuts in 1993." — "before her breakthrough role in Robert Altman's drama Short Cuts (1993)." (in addition to this change can you explain what makes this her "breakthrough"?)

"In 1995, Moore starred in Todd Haynes' drama Safe, comedy-drama Roommates, romantic comedy Nine Months, and action film Assassins." — "In 1995, Moore starred in Todd Haynes' drama Safe, the comedy-drama Roommates, the romantic comedy Nine Months, and the action film Assassins." (don't make "the" bold; just added it in where it is needed.)

"The following year she portrayed French painter Dora Maar in the Merchant Ivory film Surviving Picasso (1996) opposite Anthony Hopkins, and Natascha McElhone." — "The following year she portrayed French painter Dora Maar in the Merchant Ivory film Surviving Picasso (1996) opposite Anthony Hopkins and Natascha McElhone." (comma not needed after "Hopkins")

"The following year, she starred in the Coen brothers-directed crime comedy The Big Lebowski (1998), and Gus Van Sant's Hitchcock remake Psycho (1998)." — "The following year, she starred in the Coen brothers' crime comedy The Big Lebowski and Gus Van Sant's remake of Alfred Hitchcock's Psycho." ("-directed" after Coen brothers not needed, just a '; comma not needed after Lebowski; the year of release is not needed for either film since your preceding sentence states 1997, hence most people can figure out that 1998 would be "the following year"; Psycho is not a "Hitchcock remake", it is a remake of an Alfred Hitchcock film)

"Moore starred in three film adaptations in 1999; An Ideal Husband, A Map of the World, and The End of the Affair." — ""Moore starred in three film adaptations in 1999: An Ideal Husband, A Map of the World, and The End of the Affair." (colon instead of semi-colon)

"In 2001, Moore reunited with Hopkins on crime thriller sequel Hannibal, appeared in science fiction comedy Evolution, and the drama The Shipping News." — "In 2001 Moore reunited with Anthony Hopkins in the crime thriller Hannibal and also appeared in the science fiction comedy Evolution and the drama The Shipping News." ("in" insead of "on"; add in "the" as needed; commas not needed; spell out Anthony Hopkins' full name since it was several sentences back since you first mentioned him; drop "sequel" since you are not telling us what the film is a sequel to)

"The following year, she reteamed with Haynes on the drama Far from Heaven (2002), and starred in the Stephen Daldry-directed drama The Hours (2002)." — "The following year she re-teamed with Todd Haynes for the drama Far from Heaven and starred in the Stephen Daldry-directed The Hours." (As before: commas not needed; spell out Todd Haynes' full name since it's been several sentences since you first mentioned him; year of release not needed since your previous sentence says "in 2001" while this one says "the following year")

"She garnered the Volpi Cup for Best Actress from the Venice Film Festival for the former, and the Silver Bear for Best Actress from the Berlin International Film Festival for the latter." — "She garnered the Volpi Cup for Best Actress from the Venice Film Festival for the former and the Silver Bear for Best Actress from the Berlin International Film Festival for the latter." (comma not needed)

"She also received Academy Award nominations for both Best Actress (Far From Heaven), and Best Supporting Actress (The Hours) in the same year." — "She also received Academy Award nominations for both Best Actress (Far From Heaven) and Best Supporting Actress (The Hours)." (comma not needed; "in the same year" not needed)

"In 2006, Moore starred in the crime drama Freedomland, and the Alfonso Cuarón-directed science fiction thriller Children of Men." — "In 2006 Moore starred in the crime drama Freedomland and the Alfonso Cuarón-directed science fiction thriller Children of Men." (commas not needed)

"In 2007, she appeared in the science-fiction action thriller Next, and Haynes-directed biographical musical I'm Not There, and played socialite Barbara Daly Baekeland in Savage Grace." — "In 2007 she appeared in the science-fiction action thriller Next, the Haynes-directed biographical musical I'm Not There, and played socialite Barbara Daly Baekeland in Savage Grace." (comma after 2007 not needed; first "and" replaced with "the")

"Two years later, Moore appeared in the drama films: The Private Lives of Pippa Lee (2009), and A Single Man (2009)." — "Two years later Moore appeared in the drama films The Private Lives of Pippa Lee and A Single Man." (comma not needed; colon not needed; year of release not needed as your previous sentence states "in 2007" and this one says "two years later")

"In 2012, she played politician Sarah Palin in political television drama Game Change." — "In 2012 she played politician Sarah Palin in political television drama Game Change." (comma not needed)

"Two years later, she starred in the satirical drama Maps to the Stars (2014), and drama Still Alice (2014)." — "Two years later she starred in the satirical drama Maps to the Stars and the drama Still Alice." (commas not needed; years not needed as as your previous sentence states "in 2012" and this one says "two years later"; add "the" before drama Still Alice)

Television

Moore is an American and her television appearances have all been in the United States. Hence the column heading "Channel" should be retitled "Network" as this is more appropriate for American television ("channel", I believe, is more appropriate for British television).

That's all for now. Jimknut (talk) 17:59, 29 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Jimknut: Thanks for the thorough review. I've sorted your points and explained why it was her breakthrough role. Cowlibob (talk) 18:12, 1 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. I will be away from home until July 7. I will look it over then. Jimknut (talk) 00:50, 2 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Fair enough, see you then. Cowlibob (talk) 10:50, 3 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Support — Looks good. Jimknut (talk) 16:03, 7 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the review and support. Cowlibob (talk) 21:28, 7 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Support: My only comment would be to try to mention that she was the ninth person nominated for lead and supporting awards in the same year. Here are several sources: [2][3][4][5][6]. Other than that, I think it is FLC worthy.

--Birdienest81 (talk) 06:02, 5 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the review and support. I thought about including it but I don't think readers would find it interesting that someone achieved something that eight others had previously done. Cowlibob (talk) 14:12, 5 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Cowlibob:: Now that you mentioned it, I believe it's fair game. Besides, that fact about double acting nominations in one year is probably suited for the Oscar ceremony lists.

--Birdienest81 (talk) 19:57, 5 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Support – The list seems to meet the featured list criteria with the prose being in a great shape. The (size of the) lead is perfectly fine and this list is pretty comprehensive. The list is easy to navigate, and also complies with MoS, and the references are also reliable. Last but not the least, there is no ongoing edit war in the history of the article. Nice work on a very talented actress. -- Frankie _talk 17:16, 13 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from Krimuk|90 (talk) 03:33, 17 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

*The second paragraph begins with three sentences that simply list one film after another. This must be re-written to emphasise on which of these films were particularly notable. The fact that Boogie Nights garnered her an Oscar nom can be mentioned the first time you talk about the film. Also, the fact that The Lost World was her biggest commercial success till then needs mention.

"The following year, she starred in the Coen brothers' crime comedy The Big Lebowski and Gus Van Sant's remake of Alfred Hitchcock's Psycho" Again, instead of simply listing a series of films, if we mention that Psycho was such a critical dud, it will make the lead much more interesting to read.
"Moore starred in three film adaptations in 1999:" Films adaptations of what? Novels, other films, comic books?
The fact that she played homemakers in suburban America in both her Oscar nominated roles in 2002 is a crucial bit of missing information.
The final two sentences of the third paragraph also has a similar problem of simply listing the films without establishing much else.
"In 2012 she played politician Sarah Palin in political television drama Game Change. For her performance Moore won the Primetime Emmy Award for Outstanding Lead Actress in a Miniseries or a Movie" "The" missing before political television drama, and the two sentences can be simply combined together so that you don't have to say the redundant "for her performance".
Why is her role in the Hunger Games not mentioned? Mockingjay is her career's biggest hit.
This is a personal preference, but can't we use an image that is different from the infobox image in her main page? --Krimuk|90 (talk) 01:53, 14 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Krimuk90: Thanks for the review. I think I've sorted your points. Reduced the listing prose, shortened lead down by combining sentences and excluding some unneeded info. Found alternative image, added mention of Mockingjay. Cowlibob (talk) 19:02, 16 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Closing note: This candidate has been promoted, but there may be a delay in bot processing of the close. Please see WP:FLC/ar, and leave the {{featured list candidates}} template in place on the talk page until the bot goes through. – SchroCat (talk) 09:13, 20 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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