Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Avatar: The Last Airbender (season 1)/archive1

The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was not promoted by User:The Rambling Man 20:02, 8 September 2008 [1].

Avatar: The Last Airbender (season 1)

Since a couple of good article listings and delistings, the article has essentially been rewritten and turned into a list. I feel that it is ready for a featured article.

Also, I contacted User:Haha169, User:Parent5446 and User:Rau J, the other recent writers of this list, to let them know of its nomination. NuclearWarfare ^{contact me}_{My work} 04:59, 26 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

What makes the following reliable sources?
- ~~http://www.animationinsider.net/index.php~~
  - Need a better one for that, I guess. NuclearWarfare ^{contact me}_{My work} 15:18, 26 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    - I disagree. Animation Insider is an RS. It has early reviews on episodes of series, is given permission to host copyrighted material from the copyright holders, and is given lengthy interviews with staff of shows. Specifically for Avatar, it reviewed The Awakening before it was out and hosted music from the show for examples of when they interviewed the people who make the shows music. If being recognized by Corporations like that doesn't make them an RS, then we need to rethink what does. *SIGN* 19:54, 29 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- ~~http://www.helium.com/~~
  - That's a peer-reviewed website, but I agree, we probably could get better ones. NuclearWarfare ^{contact me}_{My work} 15:18, 26 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    - It's being used for reviews. I don't see how one review is more reliable than another. *SIGN* 19:54, 29 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
~~Current ref 5 is lacking a publisher (Animation Magazine?)~~
- That's there, at the end of the tag, labeled as "...|Publisher=Animation Insider}}"
  - It's 4 now... (Ryan Bell "Cartoons on the Bay...") Ealdgyth - Talk 21:28, 26 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    - I get what you mean, it's taken care of. *SIGN* 21:34, 26 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
~~http://www.nicksplat.com/Error404.html deadlinks~~
- Fixed with Amazon link

Otherwise sources look okay. Links checked out with the link checker tool. Ealdgyth - Talk 13:27, 26 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Struck the two above, but there are two broken links at the moment. Those should be fixed so they aren't big red "Error" messages. (I'm not watching this FLC any more, I trust ya'll to fix the error messages) Otherwise, it's done! Ealdgyth - Talk 14:54, 30 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Taken care of. *SIGN* 01:20, 31 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm, I believe that other than the questionable source in the lead, everything else seems OK. I am not exactly sure about the sourcing used in the Production section; it seems that the character voices are sourced to Variety.com and Hollywood.com, the latter of which I am not too sure. — Parent5446 ☯ ^{(message email)} 02:46, 28 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well, character voices do not require sourcing. They can be verified by the official site and animation DVDs.--RekishiEJ (talk) 21:10, 28 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It's been 5 days since an objection was raised, so, as the nominator, I support making this a FL. NuclearWarfare ^{contact me}_{My work} 03:01, 4 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I must say that since the beginning (this is probably one of the first articles I worked on where I saw its creation, though I think somebody else made the Season 1 article) the article has come really far. The article's lead successfully captures a concise plot summary, critical reception, and the DVD Release information as well as a catchy introduction. Though the Production section does not contain as much variety in sources as I would like, it provides a good amount of information on the behind-the-scenes for the show. The Reception section provides a lot of positive critical review, and I am a little worried about whether it might be one-sided (is there really no negative critical reception for the season?). Other than that, the episode summaries seem good, and the DVD release section is really good (I must say the chart standardization amongst all the lists has really been a great improvement; I was never a fan of gray). In conclusion, the article has come a long way, and despite some few flaws it might have, I provied my support in this nomination. — Parent5446 ☯ ^{(message email)} 02:26, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

"find a Waterbending master to teach Aang and Katara." -- teach them what?
- Isn't that implied? NuclearWarfare ^{contact me}_{My work} 18:17, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  - Maybe I guess. Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 18:56, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
"Season One of Avatar: The Last Airbender" -- Show titles must be in itallics
- Done NuclearWarfare ^{contact me}_{My work} 18:17, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
"end the seemingly endless war between the four nations." -- what four nations?
- Done NuclearWarfare ^{contact me}_{My work} 18:17, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
"This is with the hope that" -- not a good way to start a sentence
- Done NuclearWarfare ^{contact me}_{My work} 18:17, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
"Season One" vs "Season 1"
- Do you suggest we rename the page or the opening sentence? NuclearWarfare ^{contact me}_{My work} 18:17, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  - Anything in prose that says "Season 1" should be changed to "One", per MOS:NUM Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 18:56, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
"It attracted more than a million viewers each time the show aired a new episode" -- the network aired new episodes, not the show
- Done NuclearWarfare ^{contact me}_{My work} 18:17, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The second halves of the first and second paragraphs of the lead are basically the same, ie an overview of the season's plot
- Done by removing the second paragraph part. Although now, the second paragraph looks rather short, so I'm splitting the plot into its own paragraph. NuclearWarfare ^{contact me}_{My work} 18:17, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
"A couple days before the release of the fifth volume" -- "A couple of days", but anyway, it needs to be something more concrete. Does it mean "two", or "a few"?
- That isn't even right, so I fixed it. NuclearWarfare ^{contact me}_{My work} 18:17, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
"A bulk of the individual episodes were directed by Dave Filoni." how many?
- The following developed x numbers of episodes each:

Dave Filoni - 8

Lauren MacMullan - 5

Giancarlo Volpe - 5

Anthony Lioi - 2

Would a sentence removal be a good idea? NuclearWarfare ^{contact me}_{My work} 18:17, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know about removing the sentence, but it should be a real figure, not something vague. Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 18:56, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Done NuclearWarfare ^{contact me}_{My work} 19:03, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"9-14 year old demographic" -- "9–14-year old demographic"
- Done NuclearWarfare ^{contact me}_{My work} 18:17, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
"The first season of Avatar" itallicise the title
- Done NuclearWarfare ^{contact me}_{My work} 18:17, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
"The exception would be" -- "The exception was"
- Done NuclearWarfare ^{contact me}_{My work} 18:17, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
"Since this ~~was~~ is not compatible in most countries outside ~~the United States~~ North America,"
- Done NuclearWarfare ^{contact me}_{My work} 18:17, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Why are we promoting Amazon? Use TVShowsOnDVD.com, which isn't a sales site
- Ugh, reference changing? Will do. NuclearWarfare ^{contact me}_{My work} 18:17, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  - Unfortunately. We shouldn't be seen to be giving preference to one sales site over another. TVShowsOnDVD.com is owned by TV Guide, and doesn't sell anything so that's a better choice. For the UK, Amazon usually is allowed to slide through because there is no site similar to TVShowsOnDVD. Some cult magazines have DVD listings, though. Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 18:56, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    - { Done, I think. I left all of the Amazon references for Region Two, which you said is fine? NuclearWarfare ^{contact me}_{My work} 19:03, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 08:47, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Minor comment - Current ref 18 broke, anyone want to see how to fix it? NuclearWarfare ^{contact me}_{My work} 18:19, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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