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2019 in cue sports

Featured list candidates/2019 in cue sports/archive1

Nominator(s): Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 11:19, 11 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this for featured list because there hasn't been a "year in X" article for featured status before, and all tournaments have been cited. Please let me know your thoughts on the article. I haven't created an FL before, so bare with me Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 11:19, 11 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It could use an image. You should also expand the lede and source anything which isn't sourced later. ~ HAL 333 15:08, 11 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

No problem. I think all of the information in the lede is currently cited by the lists, but I can certainly expand on that. Any ideas what type of image would be suitable? Maybe one of Judd Trump? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 19:41, 11 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah. One showing him in action in 2019 would be great. ~ HAL333 20:23, 11 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Sadly snooker images aren't exactly super up-to-date. I've included the newest version of an image of him as I could (as an aside, most other players either do not have images, or are significantly more out of date!) Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:17, 13 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support A solid article. ~ HAL 333 02:18, 14 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from ChrisTheDude (talk) 18:40, 25 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

;Drive-by comment

This may be a dumb-ass question (it wouldn't be my first) but why does an article called 2019 in cue sports contain a huge number of events which occurred in 2018? Some of the tables literally consist entirely of events which took place in 2018...... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 19:07, 11 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Not a stupid question at all (far from it actually). I wasn't sure exactly how to deal with this. The article is a split from 2019 in sports, and has the snooker events done by season. (See 2018 in sports for example). I didn't want to break the chronology just for one article, but quite happy to change for just the events in the year, rather than how it's done in other articles (shouldn't take too long at all). I hope that makes sense. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 19:41, 11 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Personally I do think it would be much better, given the title, if the article only included 2019 events....... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 20:18, 12 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I have changed this to be just the events taking place in 2019. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:17, 13 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

The lead seems quite brief, could you add some more detail?
- I'll get to work Working Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 08:04, 14 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
"The snooker season runs between May and April," - this is linked to the 2018-19 season. As the article now covers sections of two seasons, probably better to remove the link. Or find a way to link to both seasons.
- Unlinked Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 08:04, 14 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
"Below is a list of all notable results from cue sports in the year of 2019." - don't think this is needed (this also applies to the individual sports' sections)
- removed Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 08:04, 14 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
"whilst World Cup of Pool" => "whilst the World Cup of Pool"
- Fixed Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 08:04, 14 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I think each sport's section should have a longer block of text at the start summarising more of the content. You could also add a summary above sections such as the snooker Challenge Tour, explaining what it is, so that readers don't have to click away to another article.
- I hadn't thought of this. Exactly, I'll add something. Working Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 08:04, 14 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
"The Billiards season started in October 2018, and runs into July 2019." - firstly, should Billiards have a capital mid-sentence? Also, this should now cover both seasons which fell within the calendar year. And finally, the table still covers October 2018 to July 2019 - it should cover the calendar year.
- Whoops, changed for events in 2019. I knew I'd missed one. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 08:04, 14 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
"The World Snooker season began in July 2018, and ended in May 2019." - same comments as the last point, essentially
- Changed. 08:04, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
Women's snooker section ends with an event in November 2018???
- Fixed. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 08:04, 14 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Were there no amateur snooker events after June?
- One that I missed! Added. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 08:04, 14 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Some refs do not have access dates
- Working Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 08:04, 14 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  - Done! Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 09:42, 25 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Think that's it from me :-) -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:32, 14 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Was there any more for this, ChrisTheDude? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 09:42, 25 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Did you get anywhere with adding a brief intro to different sections outlining what the event(s) in that section actually are (if it isn't immediately apparent from the heading)? For example, there's a section headed "Challenge Tour", but as a non-snooker fan I have no idea what that is and there's nothing here to tell me, meaning I have to click away to its own article to find out...... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 11:58, 25 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I've added a little bit of info for this. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:30, 25 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from ChrisTheDude (talk) 18:58, 27 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

;Further comments

Euro Tour section could do with an intro explaining what that is
- Added Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:11, 27 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
In the intro to the billiards section, billiards has a capital B - don't think it should
- Agreed. I've changed to English billiards, as that is strictly what we are speaking about. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:11, 27 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
"The World Billiards Championship was played in October 2018, won by Sourav Kothari and Emma Bonney" - can't see any reason to mention this in the 2019 article
- Whoops - meant to change this. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:11, 27 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Challenge Tour links to the wrong article (a golf tournament)
- Changed Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:11, 27 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
"a secondary non-professional snooker Tour held with events from qualified players" - the last bit doesn't seem to make sense. Do you mean simply "for qualified players"? Also, what is a "qualified player"?
- reworded Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:11, 27 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think tour should have a capital T in the middle of the sentence
- Done Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:11, 27 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
In the non-ranking events table, "The Masters" should sort under M
- Sorted. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:11, 27 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Pro-am section could do with a brief into explaining the concept
- Added Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:11, 27 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Seniors Tour could also do with a brief intro
- Added Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:11, 27 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
In the amateur section, the last one uses the wrong dash
- done Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:11, 27 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Think that's it -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 18:40, 25 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- I've covered all of these ChrisTheDude! Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:11, 27 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 18:58, 27 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Support from BennyOnTheLoose

I really like this article. I've added in a couple of tournaments that I think are worthy of inclusion. The list could get long, but there might be some items at the Asian Confederation of Billiard Sports site worth including, e.g. SEA games and Asian Championship. Similarly, anything that's a qualifying event for the main professional tour (as mentioned here) might make the grade. And Snooker at the 2019 African Games maybe? (I'm willing to help as well as to throw suggestions in!) BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 00:25, 15 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, happy to add BennyOnTheLoose you got a short list, and I'll get them on. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 09:45, 25 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I've added a couple of events in. Billiards and snooker at the 2019 Southeast Asian Games might be worth including too. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 01:45, 26 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I have put in the SEA games BennyOnTheLoose - I was surprised the website is already down for the event! Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 18:00, 27 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I had a similar issue with some of the 2019 African Games pages already being unavailable. I'm happy to support the article being an FL - I'm not an expert on FL requirements but looks to me like the list is comprehensive, with suitable supporting text. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 18:30, 27 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Newspaper sources it is! No worries, I'll be using this a template for future articles. A good practice might be to archive the websites whilst they are up from future! Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 19:01, 27 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Source review passed; promoting. --Pres N 03:50, 29 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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