Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/2018 in cue sports/archive1
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2018 in cue sports (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
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- Nominator(s): Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 18:28, 4 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I am nominating this for featured list because I believe the article now meets the FL criteria. After recently promoting 2019 in cue sports, I have used this experience to craft the year prior. Let me know what thoughts you have on the list :) Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 18:28, 4 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from ~ HAL333 04:43, 26 July 2020 (UTC)[reply] |
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Formatting and refs look good. ~ HAL333 02:10, 7 July 2020 (UTC)[reply] |
- Support Sorry for the lag. ~ HAL333 04:43, 26 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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- Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 17:13, 18 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Support from BennyOnTheLoose
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The article looks really good, I have a few points for consideration. Possibly more later. Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 22:57, 9 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Comments from TRM
[edit]WikiCup review etc.
- "The year of 2018 included professional tournaments surrounding table-top cue sports" a curious start, the tournaments didn't really "surround" the sports, they were tournaments in which those sports were competed in. And you have "table-top" here to distinguish these cue sports from "non-table-top" cue sports? What are those?
- Things like ground billiards, trucco and even things like hockey, polo and croquette have histories with being cue sports. However, these would rarely be called such in the modern day, thus the distinction. I've reworded. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 10:59, 12 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- "pool disciplines" perhaps "numerous" in front of pool.
- added Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 10:59, 12 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- "notable amateur cue sports " using which inclusion criteria?
- I've denoted this as "international". We include things like European championships, but not the English championship, so this seems like a suitable distinction. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 10:59, 12 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Lead feels a little short. You could cover a few other things, like Gilchrist pretty much sweeping billiards, etc.
- I have expanded this somewhat. Not really sure what is supposed to go here. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 12:45, 12 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Caption needs an en-dash in the scoreline.
- fixed. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 11:17, 12 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- "Ng On-yee " our article doesn't use a capital Y.
- fixed. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 10:59, 12 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Not seeing any row scopes in the tables.
- Which row would be suitable for the scope? The event name or the date? They both look weird to me. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 11:17, 12 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- "European Pool Championships" ->"European Pool Championship".
- They are actually called this, as there's more than one. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 10:59, 12 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- "(m) refers to men, (f) to women" why not (w) for women??
- Not on this list - but it's quite often to have "wheelchair" pool, which I would use w. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 11:17, 12 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Looks like AZBilliards needs registration for access so those URLs need the appropriate url-access parameter.
- Added Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 11:17, 12 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- "Wang Xiaotong 5-0" en-dash in scoreline.
- done Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 10:59, 12 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- A lot of tours are piped to redirects, what's the point of that?
- I took a look, but I couldn't see which ones you mean? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 10:59, 12 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- "In events where there was more than one" are we to assume when there wasn't more than one event that it was always men then?
- events are generally open to both genders, which is why I haven't denoted such. There's usually a women's event if the regular events isn't mixed. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 10:59, 12 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- A shame there are no images outside the lead. I wonder if you could add an image for each section?
- The issue is the lack of images for people I'd like to show. For instance, for pool, the obvious targets are Joshua Filler, Han Yu and even Skyler Woodward as MVP of the Mosconi Cup. They don't have images. I could add one for Neils Feijen though I suppose. Would this not stretch the tables though? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 11:29, 12 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- You link Singapore but not Gibraltar, why?
- unlinked Singapore. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 10:59, 12 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- What's the theory behind whether someone should have a red link or not be linked at all? For instance, Therese Klompenhouwer won a world title, but doesn't even have a red link?
- I've gone ahead and linked everyone. 11:29, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
- Ref 20 doesn't seem to contain any of the information it's supposed to be referencing. I'll do a closer inspection of refs later, but that was just a spot check.
- I have exapanded this ref. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 12:01, 12 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Izmir is İzmir.
- fixed Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 10:59, 12 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Ref 22 looks like lazy referencing as well. The tournament results do appear to be uniquely referenceable (PDFs for each) so that's what should be linked here, not a generic search engine landing page.
- Semih Saygıner , not Semih Sayginer.
- changed Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 10:59, 12 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- "2017-18 snooker season and 2018-19 snooker season" en-dashes.
- done Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 10:59, 12 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- I'm not seeing where most of the dates for these events are referenced? Don't forget, we can't rely on the target articles for the tournaments for that kind of information.
- " Page 3-2" en-dash.
- done Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 10:59, 12 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- "Irish Seniors Masters" the tournament appears to be called "Seniors Irish Masters"
- Ref 69 has no results.
- done Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 10:59, 12 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Similar to the linking of players, what makes IBSF World Under-18 Championship notable enough for a red link but World Snooker Team Cup not?
- Added - I've linked everything, and taken the liberty to do some links to the ill versions of the ones that exist on dewiki. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 10:59, 12 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Refs, I'll take a closer look on a second pass as I noted, but quickly, BBC Sport refs, one seems to include BBC as a publisher, and one seems to link BBC Sport, but not the first one.
- I'll take a look through them. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 10:59, 12 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Plenty of work to do. Cheers. The Rambling Man (Stay indoors, stay safe!!!!) 10:00, 12 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- I think I've got the majority of the above. Let me know if the date refs are too much. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 12:53, 12 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support from The Squirrel Conspiracy
[edit]Resolved comments from The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) |
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Note: This is a QPQ review. I'm reviewing this and Lee Vilenski is reviewing List of Super Smash Bros. Ultimate tournaments.
Please ping me when you've responded. Cheers, The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 20:04, 30 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Since all the prose and formatting issues have been resolved and we've done the best we can do on images within Wikipedia's limitations, I am happy to support. The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 16:22, 31 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from MWright96 (talk) 17:22, 1 August 2020 (UTC)[reply] |
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Support – No further queries from this editor. MWright96 (talk) 17:22, 1 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Source review - Pass
[edit]It looks like TRM has essentially done the source review, so there will probably be little left to say here.
- The biggest thing I found is that it's sometimes "worldsnooker.com" and sometimes "World Snooker" for what are from seemingly the same website. I don't really have a preference for which one should be used as long as it's consistent.
- Besides that everything seems reliably sourced and formatted. Fix the first point and you'll be good. Aza24 (talk) 22:44, 12 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Should be all fixed now Aza24! Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 17:41, 16 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Good work here. Pass for source review. Aza24 (talk) 00:09, 17 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Should be all fixed now Aza24! Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 17:41, 16 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Harrias
[edit]Resolved comments from Harrias talk 17:06, 27 August 2020 (UTC)[reply] |
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* In light of the recent RFC on table captions (closed back in May) and how FLCs have to follow MOS:ACCESS, table captions should be included in both tables. This quote by PresN might apply to this list: "In the case that the table is the first thing in a section where the section header is essentially the same as what the caption would be, and therefore looks duplicative visually, you can make the caption screen reader-only with the {{sronly}} template, e.g. "|+ {{sronly|Example table caption}}" instead of "
|- | {{dts|March 2}}–4 ! scope="row" | [[2018 World Pool Masters|World Pool Masters]] | Gibraltar || [[Niels Feijen]] defeated [[Shane Van Boening]], 8–4
That's it from me on a first pass; I haven't looked at the lead at all, only the table. I will probably claim WikiCup points for this review. Harrias talk 07:41, 14 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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- Support, nice work. Harrias talk 17:06, 27 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Promoting. --PresN 20:53, 29 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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