Wikipedia:Featured article review/Satyajit Ray/archive1

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The article was delisted by Nikkimaria via FACBot (talk) 5:06, 25 February 2023 (UTC) [1].

Satyajit Ray

Notified: ~~Shmitra~~ (last edit was 2009), LM150, Dwaipayanc, WikiProject Biography, WikiProject India, WikiProject Children's literature, WikiProject Screenwriters, 2022-10-22

Review section

I am nominating this featured article for review because there are numerous unsourced statements in the article and unused references. Secondary concerns include missing information in references (mostly author names in articles) and a long Careers section that can be more effectively formatted. Z1720 (talk) 16:52, 4 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Will need a herculean effort to salvage the star but I am up for it, if somebody collaborates. TrangaBellam (talk) 18:05, 4 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I have rather a lot on my plate at the moment and don't want to make commitments I cannot keep, but I thought it worth mentioning that we have a lot of very active editors writing about Indian films; perhaps pinging them individually may help. Vanamonde (Talk) 18:31, 4 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Vanamonde93: I am not familiar with this area of Wikipedia. Any editors that you think can be pinged and made aware of this FAR? Z1720 (talk) 02:49, 12 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Utcursch and Cyphoidbomb: are the ones I'm familiar with, but I'd look for experienced and active contributors listed at Wikipedia:WikiProject Film/Indian cinema task force/Participants. I could do this myself but not today, I'm afraid. Vanamonde (Talk) 21:09, 12 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@TrangaBellam:, interested to collaborate? I can try to rope in some others also. Can start slowly.Thanks!--Dwaipayan (talk) 03:32, 15 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The Indian movies FA writers produce some of the worst claptrap there is on WP. They appear at each others' FACs and give easy passes. Doing it for years. Movies and media FAs are poor quality to begin with. This is a vital article, it shouldn't be inflicted to prose honed on Bollywood's bimbos. Fowler&fowler «Talk» 10:41, 15 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Between @TrangaBellam, RegentsPark, Abecedare, Dwaipayanc, and Shshshsh:, there is enough experience and writing history to do a good job. Dwaipayan is the nominator of Pather Panchali. My only disagreement with him there is the fragment: "establishing Ray as one of the country's most distinguished filmmakers." for he is one of the world's greats, a "giant of world cinema," as the NPR tribute—that I heard on the car radio on the eve of his academy award—put it. Fowler&fowler «Talk» 10:44, 15 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know if @Ragib: is around. Fowler&fowler «Talk» 11:11, 15 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Also @Titodutta: Fowler&fowler «Talk» 11:13, 15 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

And also @JohnWickTwo, Grapple X, and Casliber: whom I remember from the Kurosawa FAC, which to my abiding shame, I never got around to improving enough with my comments. Fowler&fowler «Talk» 12:03, 15 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Z1720: Thanks for the nomination.The article certainly need improvement to maintain FA status. We are in the initial/pre-initial (!) stage to plan a collaborative effort to improve it. This project would need a lo...ng time. That's why I am writing this message. I'd expect 6 months, perhaps more. Let's see how we move along. Thanks!--Dwaipayan (talk) 17:50, 15 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Dwaipayanc: I am fine with this remaining at FAR as long as the co-ords are OK with it and improvements continue. Z1720 (talk) 02:06, 21 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Update Nov 2022 I am working slowly, starting from the "Background" section. Basically, adding/modifying material sourced from the biography authored by Robinson, making sure most sentences are referenced.--Dwaipayan (talk) 00:22, 25 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Z1720 (talk · contribs), you mentioned " a long Careers section that can be more effectively formatted" as an issue. I have been thinking about how to re-format. Do you have any suggestions/idea? I looked at the article on Charlie Chaplin, in which the major films have been discussed in greater details. We do not have such degree of details in Ray article. So, not sure following Chaplin pattern would be good. Thanks!--Dwaipayan (talk) 21:30, 27 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Well, actually it may work. I a trying in this sandbox. Dwaipayan (talk) 21:56, 27 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Dwaipayanc: This is great work. I would avoid the level 4 headings that are only one paragraph long, per WP:OVERSECTION and just merge those sections together. I like the split for "Song of the Little Road" Z1720 (talk) 01:39, 28 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Could we get an update on status here? Nikkimaria (talk) 05:16, 21 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Move to FARC Work seems to have stalled, uncited statements are still present, no response to the above update requested. Z1720 (talk) 15:58, 4 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

FARC section

Issues raised in the review section include sourcing and structure. Nikkimaria (talk) 20:44, 4 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delist. There are still 5 unreferenced paragraphs. Desertarun (talk) 19:20, 18 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delist Work seems to have stalled, and concerns about sourcing are still present. Z1720 (talk) 20:35, 18 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delist Dwaipayanc has not edited since January 1; I hope my good friend is OK, but this FAR has stalled so I must declare a delist. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 21:17, 19 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delist, sadly, per above. Hog Farm _Talk 14:12, 24 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Closing note: This removal candidate has been delisted, but there may be a delay in bot processing of the close. Please leave the {{featured article review}} template in place on the talk page until the bot goes through. Nikkimaria (talk) 05:06, 25 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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