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The article was promoted by Ian Rose via FACBot (talk) 27 July 2023 [1].

Title (song)

Nominator(s): N Ø 21:32, 4 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This article is about Meghan Trainor's song "Title". Snubbed from a single release in favor of "Lips Are Movin" back in 2014, this doo-wop song became one of the most important ones in Trainor's catalog nearly seven years after its release, when it went viral on TikTok and sowed the seeds for her eventual comeback. Somehow this album track was a top 10 hit in New Zealand and went Platinum in Australia, a rare feat before the streaming era. I hope you enjoy reading another title titled "Title" from me. Thanks a lot to everyone who will take the time to give their feedback here.--N Ø 21:32, 4 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Image review

Apologies in advance as I will be unable to do a full prose review, but to help alleviate at least some of the pressure from editors who normally do image reviews for FACs, I will handle this part.

File:KK Fano.JPG has a clearly defined purpose in the article with a clear and informative caption. The image has appropriate WP:ALT text, and I would assume good faith that it is the uploader's original work.
Everything checks out with File:Meghan Trainor (15812368967).jpg. A clear purpose in the article. A clear caption. Appropriate ALT text. The author and source links are still active and accessible. No issues here.

This passes my image review. Best of luck with your FAC. Aoba47 (talk) 17:11, 6 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you so much for the media review, Aoba47! You've already gone above and beyond by reviewing all other FACs from this album so it is more than understandable if you want to sit this one out :) --N Ø 20:56, 6 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I am glad that I could help. I am happy to see this article at the FAC space. Thank you for understanding, and I hope you have a great rest of your week. Aoba47 (talk) 21:55, 6 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

CommentsSupport from Chris

"Trainor demands her partner to define their relationship more clearly and call her his girlfriend in its lyrics." => "Trainor demands in its lyrics that her partner define their relationship more clearly and call her his girlfriend."
"Trainor performed the song at the 2014 iHeartRadio Music Festival, in sessions for MTV and the National Post, and included" => "Trainor performed the song at the 2014 iHeartRadio Music Festival and in sessions for MTV and the National Post, and included"
"Kadish and Trainor began working on more songs immediately as the label wanted her to record an entire album.[1] It was released as Trainor's debut single...." - what's "it"? The previous sentence didn't mention a song......
"She revealed in October that it was nearly scrapped in favor of "Dear Future Husband" (2015)" - she revealed in October (apparently of 2014) that her next single was (maybe) going to be a song from 2015? That doesn't seem to make sense.....
"The song fuses the horn" - I think "The song fuses horns" would work better. And link horns to Horn section
"and climb a bike without using his hands" => "and ride a bike without using his hands"
That's what I got on a first pass...... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 20:40, 6 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for another great review, ChrisTheDude! All addressed :-) --N Ø 20:56, 6 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Anything else, Chris?--N Ø 06:24, 9 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Support - apologies for forgetting to check back...... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:49, 9 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Support from Unlimitedlead

"song by American singer-songwriter Meghan Trainor from her 2014 debut EP of the same name": This may be just me, but I thought you meant the debut EP was called Meghan Trainor.
"...with commentary directed towards its lyrics, production, and rap verse": what kind of commentary? Mixed? Positive? Negative?
"...he video was uploaded online in December 2021": What video?
"...posted a cumulative 4,659 videos dancing to it": What year does this figure date to? Surely this is not current.

Overall not much to say. Another lovely, short article as always. Cheers, Unlimitedlead (talk) 23:30, 7 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks a ton for the review and compliment, Unlimitedlead! I decided to do a somewhat shorter one after two consecutive album articles, lol. Everything should be addressed now.--N Ø 02:48, 8 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Always happy to review. I will now support this nomination. Unlimitedlead (talk) 03:19, 8 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Support from Gog the Mild

Recusing to review.

"but it was eventually scrapped". "it" wasn't scrapped. Maybe 'this plan was scrapped'? "scrapped" also seems a little dramatic. Maybe "but eventually decided on "Lips Are Movin" instead.
"some defended the lyrics." This comes across a little oddly, as you haven't said that anyone was attacking them or suggested why they may need defending.
"in various other countries." Maybe 'in several other countries'?
"It received a Platinum certification". Why an upper-case P?

This usage is consistent with my other FAs. The logic is it should be capitalized as an award title, in the same way we would capitalize "Grammy Award", "Video of the Year", etc.

Is "Big Yellow Dog Music" worth a red link?

Based on other articles, this does not seem to be linked

"She recounted being ill-treated by her romantic partners in high school". Is it known who she recounted these to and when?

Yes, added.

"That month, the website reported". What or whose website?
"Patois" should have a lower-case p.
"She refuses to be friends with benefits". Might this read better as 'She refuses to be a friend [singular] with benefits'? Given that it is her [singular] who is so refusing.
"ride a bike without using his hands". Ok, so this has lost me. Does it make sense in American. And either way, is it a highly risque innuendo?

No no, this is about her literally wanting him to just get up on a bike without using his hands. I made this a direct quote to the lyrics if it helps...

"L.V. Anderson". The MoS requires a space between "L." and "V.".
"if he treats her like a casual hookup. Trainor asks him to "treat [her] like a trophy [and] put [her] on a shelf" and ride a bike without using his hands. L.V. Anderson of Slate described the song as "the cri de coeur of a woman who's tired of being seen as a casual hookup". "... a casual hookup ... a casual hookup ..." Synonym time?

"while sporting a sparkling dress and lime green fur". *Trivia alert*
"Inspired by the AAU Mr. America pageant ... at a Miss America–style pageant". I am confused.
"She teased the music video on TikTok". Is teased a technical term? Is there a link?
"received a Gold certification". Upper-case G?

This usage is consistent with my other FAs.

Very neat - anyone would think that you had done this before. Gog the Mild (talk) 18:23, 14 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I see this is my lucky nomination that finally gets a review from Thee Gog :) I have satisfactorily addressed your comments, I hope.--N Ø 20:00, 15 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think you need "the luck of the Gog" with writing like yours. Fine work and I am happy to support. Gog the Mild (talk) 20:10, 15 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Pseud 14

The article seems to be in good order. Just a few suggestions.

link EP to extended play. Also worth linking in the first instance in the Background section
became a trend on video-sharing service TikTok -- on the video sharing service TikTok. Also worth linking trend to viral phenomenon.
believe it should be self-worth with a hyphen
at the 2014 iHeartRadio Music Festival in September 2014. -- perhaps you can omit the first instance of 2014. Pseud 14 (talk) 00:15, 19 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Done on all points. Thanks for highlighting these, Pseud 14!--N Ø 17:57, 19 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Support. Great job on another Trainor series, as usual. Btw if you have spare time and inclination, would appreciate feedback on my current FAC. Pseud 14 (talk) 19:04, 19 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Source review

The sources used in this article are appropriate for its subject matter and are for the most part high-quality and appropriate for a FA. I just have a quick comment. I would replace the Idolator source as it is not considered a high-quality source for FAs.

It's revenge time, I see, lol. Just kidding. After some digging, I was able to replace this.

The citations are structured appropriately. I appreciated that things are archived to avoid potential headache with link rot and death and that items with subscriptions are marked appropriately. I have done a spot-check and the items in the sources match the information in the citations. I have also done a spot-check and the information from the citations I have checked matches with and supports the information in the article. I just have a few comments below.
For Citation 27, I would specify that it is from Vulture.
There appears to be a typo in Citation 30 that prevents me from accessing the source (i.e. ww2. and not www.). I would check the other citations to make sure this is not repeated elsewhere.
In Citation 34, I would link Meghan Trainor as the author of the tweet.
Just out of curiosity, have you checked to see if there was any unique coverage in newspaper sources, such as on Newspapers.com. I am doubtful as this song is relatively modern, and a majority if not all of the coverage would be available online, but I still wanted to ask you anyway to make sure. I am having issues with my Newspapers.com account as the way to get into it now unnecessarily complicated on my end. I have checked for scholarly coverage on Google Scholar, and I could not find anything.

I did another skim, and those sites seem to be replicating album reviews found online so you are correct about this. Nothing new to add from there.

I hope this source review is helpful. Let me know when everything is addressed, and I will look through the sources one more time, but more likely than not, I will pass the source review at that time. Hopefully, this review will help push the FAC along. Best of luck with the FAC! Aoba47 (talk) 01:26, 20 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the source review, Aoba47. I believe I have addressed everything. Feel free to take another look when you have some time.--N Ø 04:16, 20 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for addressing everything. It all looks good to me. This passes my source review. Aoba47 (talk) 16:11, 20 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Query for the coordinators

@FAC coordinators: I'd like to move foward with a new nomination in a while if that's okay, since this one seems to be in good shape.--N Ø 05:34, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, go ahead. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 05:37, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Closing note: This candidate has been promoted, but there may be a delay in bot processing of the close. Please see WP:FAC/ar, and leave the {{featured article candidates}} template in place on the talk page until the bot goes through. Ian Rose (talk) 13:48, 27 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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