Wikipedia:Drawing board/Archives/2007/July

This page is an archive. Please do not edit the contents of this page. To enter additional comments edit the current main page and link to this page for context if needed.

Syndy Ziegenfuss

—Preceding unsigned comment added by Cdegan3 (talk • contribs) 01:14, 29 June 2007

Text of an article commented out.

This board is for discussion about possible new articles. Please do not submit the text of an article here for somebody else to create. Please go to Wikipedia:Requested articles for that. Thank you.—Elipongo (Talk contribs) 01:05, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

List of museums in Taiwan

The National Palace Museum, Taipei The Museum of Modern Art, Taipei—Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.124.5.22 (talk • contribs) 01:27, 29 June 2007

You'll find most of what you're looking for in Category:Museums in Taiwan. A separate list article might be useful. Read the list guideline to learn what goes into making a list article. Cheers! —Elipongo (Talk contribs) 01:14, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

Tony Cheung

Tony Cheung is a Cwalker from Cuijk.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.29.158.72 (talk • contribs) 17:47, 29 June 2007

Always nice to hear from the Netherlands, though I have no idea wat a Cwalker is. Before you write an article on this person, please be sure that his notability can be verified using reliable sources that can be cited in the article. Good luck! —Elipongo (Talk contribs) 01:47, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

autofs

presently no entry for autofs

here is a proposed starting point: autofs is a kernel-based automounter for Linux type systems autofs controls the functioning of the automount daemons. I'm not an expert on this subject but I figure that much is correct.—Preceding unsigned comment added by General Disarray (talk • contribs) 23:32, 1 July 2007

Hello and thanks for writing. You're quite right, there seems to be no article about this computer related subject. A quick Google search turned up several of what I would call reliable sources that could be used to establish the subject's notability. If you don't feel yourself qualified to start a well fleshed article, you might think about bringing the lack of this article to the attention of editors at WikiProject Computer science who may be able to help you more than I. Happy editing! —Elipongo (Talk contribs) 02:02, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

Project-specific: Overview/history of why the current policies and guidelines came to be.

Wikipedia has an impressive amount of policies and guidelines, which allow it to function more or less effectively. Undoubtedly more will be added in the future, which will be shaped by those already in place. If you dig deep enough in the history of these policies and guidelines, you might find information on why they were created, and various other project articles might have mentions of the form "in responce to x, policy y was formed". But (as far as I can find), no global overview exists that places the creation of all the policies and guidelines in context. It's all scattered and really hard to piece together. The existence of a project specific article (titled Wikipedia:History_behind_policies_and_guidelines?) would seem to me to be a very useful resource, especially in the deep future. Newly starting wikis might also benefit strongly from this, as rather than blindly copying wikipedia's policies, they could examine the reasons behind the creation thereof, and make different (better?) choices for their specific circumstances. I think the most useful way to set up this article would be in chronological order. Something like "In April 2002, reverting wars (insert short explanation of what that is and how they came to be) caused the creation of policy X; this was found to be ineffective during the controversy of FooBar in June 2002, and so changed to Y", which would show how the policies and guidelines all organically grew, but a list of the policies and guidelines with a short blurb each on why they were created might also work; I don't know how much interdependency there is between them.

I would start such an article myself, but I'm a complete outsider to wikipedia, and I don't know anything about why any of the policies or guidelines are what they are (I'm sure at least a few were formed simply by "common sense" or "it seemed like a good idea at the time", but there must be real history behind many others), which makes it kinda hard to write any actually useful content on this subject. *g* I'm hoping that someone who does have at least some familiarity with it will see this idea here and actually implement it. (I can't request for such a page to be created under Wikipedia:Requested_articles, as that doesn't have a category for project-specific articles.) 71.57.109.108 18:37, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

That is definetely and interesting idea! I'm not sure, but is Wikipedia:History of Wikipedian processes and people pretty much what you're describing? Thanks for your ideas, keep them coming! —Elipongo (Talk contribs) 03:08, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

That history page has a lot of pieces that I think would be useful for this overview as I imagine it, yes, although it also seems to be focusing on specifics (completely ignoring the more basic processes; might be that people here are just too close to them), and to assume a lot of prior knowledge about wikipedia from its readers. I saw a mention on that page of the "village pump". Would that be an appropriate venue to put this suggestion and try to find someone who has the knowledge to actually write a significant part of this article? —71.57.109.108 20:03, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Yes, the Village Pump can be a good place to find knowledgeable people, but I think a better idea would be to start a discussion at the talk page of the article I referenced above. The regular editors of that article are already interested in the subject and they may even know of an existing article on the subject that I didn't find. Let me know how it goes, I'm interested! —Elipongo (Talk contribs) 23:56, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, I've added a section to the talk page there. Fingers crossed for progress. —71.57.109.108 04:09, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

"Heart of the City" TV series...

I need someone to create this page about this excellent(but short-lived) ABC series...thanks Baldwin91006 16:56, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

If no one can help out, then I'll have to do this, but I'm still new to Wikipedia, so I'll have to do this right the first time(can anyone help me on that, too?)...thanks...Baldwin91006 16:58, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

Are you talking about the show described in the television section of the Big Town article? —Elipongo (Talk contribs) 00:51, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

No, this has nothing to do with Big Town;instead, this is about a short-lived ABC-TV series that aired from September 1986 to January 1987.It was a crime drama set in L.A..Baldwin91006 19:25, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

That must be this show [1], that does sound like an interesting TV series. Since the series has an Emmy to its credit, that does make it pass the notability criteria.

Now as for starting the article. You need to find some reliable sources so that you can verify the information you plan to cite in the article. For ideas on how to set the article, use the links in the welcome message on your user talk page, they're VERY helpful. You might want to also browse around and look at the articles of other TV shows for ideas on what to include.

Don't worry if it's very short to begin with, lot of articles start off that way. Simply tag it as a stub by putting {{US-tv-prog-stub}} at the bottom of the page. Happy editing and stop back and let us know how it goes!—Elipongo (Talk contribs) 22:12, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

Sparkling Wiggles

I've made a page at www.wikipedia.org/en/wiki/Sparkling_Wiggles_Video

It's not coming up on searches for Sparkling Wiggles.

I would also like some suggestions on how to go about making this a more robust article, as it's something that relates to current racial sensitivities and internet pheneomena. THank you—Preceding unsigned comment added by JayNaz (talk • contribs) 05:27, 29 June 2007

Your question would be better suited at Requests for feedback since this board is to help people before they write an article.

It is a very nice article, written in an informative and professional tone. It is lacking in citations that prove the subject's notability. Quite frankly the article is in danger of deletion if it does not fulfil that requirement. The folks at the forum I posted above will be able to help you even more. Happy editing! —Elipongo (Talk contribs) 01:40, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

Ah yes, I see I forgot to address your question about the search function. There's actually a significant lag in the search function's indexing, pay it no mind, it will get to your article. —Elipongo (Talk contribs) 21:47, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

Extreme IT

Extreme IT - Founded by Christopher Reeves in 2000, provides computer services to the greater Auckland region in New Zealand. Extreme IT has grown to a large business, providing software development, website development and IT services to the SME market. More information can be found by going to [2]—Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.12.105.132 (talk • contribs) 03:06, 2 July 2007

That sounds like a very interesting company. Before you start an article, please make sure that the subject meets the relevant notability criteria for inclusion in the encyclopedia. Essentially a subject has to be non-trivially mentioned in multiple secondary reliable sources that can be cited in an article to verify the information. Thanks again for writing! —Elipongo (Talk contribs) 21:06, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

Burton Trees

Burton Trees were created in 1979 by Bruce Burton, of Evanston, Illinois. His vision was to be able to capture audiences by using a Tree to graphically depict History of Music and Sports.

Burton has showed us a new way to teach and learn about History, and his uncanning attention to detail brings new meaning History Text.

Roughly 24" x 30," these Signed Lithographs depict everything from 1960's Music, to the Chicago White Sox Ninety year history complete with every player, their position, and Comiskey Park Old and New.

Available for the first time online, Burton Trees are the ultimate gift for everyone, every budget, everywhere.

67.165.183.59 04:08, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

That does sound like an interesting concept, but the text you have above sounds a lot more like an advertisement than the beginnings of an encyclopedia article on the subject. Before you do start an article, be sure that the subject meets the relevant notability criteria. Basically a subject has to have been non-trivially mentioned in multiple third-party reliable sources so that the information can be verified and can be cited in an article. Thanks again for your post. —Elipongo (Talk contribs) 21:14, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

Blue Tiger

I want to create a page for the revival of an 80's rock band Blue Tiger. I know the lead guitarist personally, so information wouldnt be a problem. blue tiger is a band that recently got signed to retrospect reocrds, since there myspace page which was originally a tribute page hit it big. and now there lined up fora world tour. so contact me at email removed to prevent spam, iwould really like to create a page for them so please get back at me. thank you for your time.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Philbrook34 (talk • contribs) 18:13, 3 July 2007

They sound like a very interesting musical group. Before you start an article on them, please make sure they meet the relevant notability criteria. In general, for inclusion in the encyclopedia, the information about a subject must be verified by having been non-trivially mentioned in multiple reliable sources that can be cited in an article. There are other notability criteria for musical groups, so read the guideline I linked to above. Thanks again for you question and happy editing! —Elipongo (Talk contribs) 20:56, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

Catherine Patricia Mackin

I was wondering if someone would be interested in writing an article about Catherine Patricia Mackin, also known as "Cassie", to be published on Wikipedia. She was an NBC news personality in the 1970's, and was an important female figure in television journalism. Good information to start with can be found here, though I am certain other sources exist... http://www.lib.umd.edu/archivesum/actions.DisplayEADDoc.do?source=MdU.ead.histms.0100.xml&style=ead#overview She is referenced currently under the NBC News heading under Current and Past Personalities. She also worked for ABC, and won an Emmy for reporting there.

I was surprised to find no information linked to her name, and was hoping someone might change that.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Pumpkin65 (talk • contribs) 14:37, 7 January 2007

Hello. Thank you for writing and sorry for the severely delayed reply. For inclusion in the encyclopedia, a person has to meet the notability criteria. Basically they need to have been non-trivially mentioned in multiple reliable sources that could then be cited in an article to verify the information. The source you've given is very good, but it's the only one I could find in my quick look, perhaps you know of more. Best wishes and happy editing!—Elipongo (Talk contribs) 21:56, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

Andrew "Bernie" Macdonald

i just wish to make a bio on a popular icon in connecticut who isn't well known out side of connecticut and i just wanna make an artical so that more and more will learn of him because i beleive he is the perfect rolemodel for the younger kids for instance if he doesn't like something he works his hands to the bone to fix it and he always makes people smile and like i said i just wanna make a small out of the way artical so that he gets the reconition he deserves—Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.177.3.121 (talk • contribs) 02:59, 11 January 2007

Hello and thank you for your note and my apology for this delayed reply. For a person's biography to be included in the encylopedia, they have to meet the relevant notability criteria. Basically they have to have been non-trivially mentioned in multiple reliable sources that can be cited in an article to verify the information. Thanks again for writing! —Elipongo (Talk contribs) 21:32, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

List of Naruto Shipp?den Chapters

I'm a HUGE fan of NARUTO, one day i want to see a list of Naruto episodes, then i tried to see a list of NARUTO 2 (Shipp?den) Chapters, which is the name of a comic episode. As i looked, i found that there was only List of Naruto Shipp?den Arcs—Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.130.201.155 (talk • contribs) 21:57, 19 January 2007

Hello and thanks for writing and sorry for the delayed reply. Lists like these should only really be created for really notable films or shows. If you have several non-trivial mention in third-party reliable sources that you can then cite in an article/list to verify the information's notability, then you might have the makings of an article. Good luck! —Elipongo (Talk contribs) 21:19, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

Fort Ancient Valley Conference

Hello, I was surprised to find that this page was not created yet. The FAVC is a high-school sports conference in southwestern Ohio. It is the largest conference in the state and is made up of three separate divisions and 18 different high schools. The conference was named after [Fort Ancient], a Native American site in the local area of the charter schools. The conference's website, which includes a complete history, can be found here. Thanks to anyone who takes on this task.

Hello, thanks for your post. Actually this board is not the place to ask for someone else to write an article for you; the place for that is Articles for creation.

Before you start or request an article, be sure that it meets the notability guidelines. Basically a subject needs to have been non-trivially mentioned in multiple third-party reliable sources that can then be cited in an article to verify the information. Thanks again for writing! —Elipongo (Talk contribs) 22:05, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

Shoreside Clothing

I have no idea how to get this up but it's a clothing company that is pretty popular here in Florida. They were recently featured on FOX news [3] as well as Surfline Magazine[4]. Pretty much any information can be found on them at thier website shoresideclothing.com or shoreside.weebly.com. I'm trying to get more information available as a lot of people are curious where my clothes are from, etc. Thanks.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.177.63.65 (talk • contribs) 07:22, 7 May 2007

Hello; thanks for writing and sorry for the delayed reply. One of the links you posted has gone bad since the time you posted it. The other one seems interesting. If you have some more non-trivial, third party mentions in reliable sources that you can cite in an article to verify the subject's notability you may very well have a nice little article. Happy editing! —Elipongo (Talk contribs) 20:49, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

Hafgufa

See lyngbakr (Above).Kraken of the Depths 01:44, 26 September 2006 (UTC

That thread must have already been archived, but I see that both creatures are mentioned in the Kraken article. If you have enough material from reliable sources that you can cite in the article to verify the subject's notability, you should be well on the way to a viable article. Happy editing! —Elipongo (Talk contribs) 20:34, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

The Field School

Shouldn't be too hard to create. I've never created an article before and I don't have the time to figure it out right now. I'd be happy to help or edit it, though. Here's the school's website: http://fieldschool.org/ Thanks, 08ashepa 00:23, 30 May 2007

Hello; thanks for writing and sorry for the delayed reply. It seems there was already an article with that name but it was deleted with a deletion summary given as "Nonsense" [5].

We don't write articles for you on this page, If you want someone else to write it instead of doing it yourself, please visit Articles for creation.

I would normally advise you to make sure that the subject of your article meets the notability criteria, but there has been a running debate on whether secondary schools are inherently notable. If you can find any extra non-trivial mention of the school in multiple, secondary reliable sources, that you can cite in an article, you'll be a long way down the path of establishing the article. Good luck! —Elipongo (Talk contribs) 20:16, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

Maude Royden

Christian feminist...—Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.156.220.160 (talk • contribs) 11:26, 4 July 2007

Do you mean Agnes Maude Royden? —Elipongo (Talk contribs) 12:17, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

Adam Cote - Democratic Candidate for Congress, 1st District of Maine

This candidate for Congress in Maine is an established lawyer, Iraq war veteran, and one of the "Figthing Dems." He is a solid candidate with excellent prospects. People interested in the 2008 elections should be able to find out about him - he is running in what, although is currently a strong Democratic seat, has been a swing seat in the past. In the past 12 years, the seat has been represented by both a Democrat and a Republican - this trend could continue and Maine's First District will likely be a battle ground.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.58.202.57 (talk • contribs) 16:26, 4 July 2007

Hello, and happy independence day! Thanks for writing. Upon checking it seems that there already was an article for Mr. Cote, but it was deleted. The text of the deletion debate can be found at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Adam Cote. I can see nothing that was done incorrectly during the deletion process, so I should think that an appeal would be futile. My advice is to give it some time, if Mr. Cote wins the primary he'll almost definitely get an article written here. Happy editing!—Elipongo (Talk contribs) 19:09, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

Brown and Gold Football

Brown and Gold is a football game played at Rockway Middle School every November.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Mlola (talk • contribs) 02:27, 5 July 2007

Hello and thanks for your post. I think that a description of that football game would likely be more appropriate as a section in the Middle School's article rather than as an independent article. Remember to include citations to reliable sources to verify the information you add. Happy editing! —Elipongo (Talk contribs) 13:24, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

THOR MICHAEL L. COTE

THOR MICHAEL L. COTE,—Preceding unsigned comment added by Faashaula (talk • contribs) 16:06, 5 July 2007

Okay... what about him? —Elipongo (Talk contribs) 16:26, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Biblical Authority.

I think the Christianity series needs an article with this name, to cover the views of different academic theologians and worship traditions toward the subject. It will need to be well integrated into the current areticles about the Bible. Any help anyone?Benny the wayfarer 16:47, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Hi and thanks for your post. Probably the best place you could go to find collaborators (and also to make sure this article wouldn't duplicate something else) would be WikiProject Christianity. I'm sure that the subject meets the notability criteria, so my general advice would be to make sure that you provide citations from reliable sources to verify the information in the article. Good luck and happy editing! —Elipongo (Talk contribs) 18:31, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Multiple Reaction Monitoring (MRM)

Multiple Reaction Monitoring is a sensitive mass spectrometry technique used widely in pharmacology. A compound with a known mass-to-charge ratio among a complex mixture is targeted and those ions stemming from the compound are fragmented (tandem MS) to verify the presence of, and roughly quantify, the compound.

I'm not sure if this is completely correct, and I know almost nothing about it. Please help! 128.187.0.164 22:30, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Hello. I'm not completely clear whether you're asking a question or proposing an addition to the encyclopedia. If you're asking a question, the best place to go is the Reference desk where there are people who just love to answer questions. If you're proposing an addition to the encyclopedia, I would say that the best place to start would be the relevant article's talk page at Talk:Mass spectrometry. I can't find the technique you mention in the main article, so if there's a gap in the article it should be addressed on the article's talk page to rectify the situation. Happy editing! —Elipongo (Talk contribs) 02:49, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

2008 presidential campaign

Would someone please make a page on this?—Preceding unsigned comment added by Ygb6147 (talk • contribs) 01:20, 6 July 2007

The Drawing board is a place where we help you make an article, Articles for creation and Requested articles are the places to go to ask someone else to create an article for you.

Having said that, If you're talking about the 2008 election in the United States, that article already exists at United States presidential election, 2008. Hope that helps some. Happy editing! —Elipongo (Talk contribs) 02:57, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

pretzel art

i like pretzel art. i can make any 2d figur out of pretzels24.150.172.201 03:58, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

That's a very interesting skill. A nice photo of you work might make a good addition to the Pretzel article. I'm not sure if it warrants an independent article, though. For a subject to be included in the encyclopedia, it has to be proven notable by having been non-trivially mentioned in multiple, non-primary reliable sources that can be cited in an article to verify the information. Cheers!—Preceding unsigned comment added by Elipongo (talk • contribs) 05:17, 8 July 2007

Apple Tea

I wanted to make an article on apple tea but I need more info on what it is and stuff like that! contribs)07:59, 7 July 2007 (UTC)—Preceding unsigned comment added by Ducky3.14 (talk • contribs) 23:59, 6 July 2007

A good place to start to look for references is a library. In this case you might want to try some sorts of cook books. Searching the Internet using a search engine such as Google could also be helpful to find information, but a quick glance I took just now didn't find much in the way of reliable sources from Google.

Doing the research is an important step in determining whether a subject will meet the notability criteria for inclusion in the encyclopedia. A subject has to have been non-trivially mentioned in multiple secondary reliable sources to that can be cited in an article to verify the information.

If you don't think you can establish notability under the criteria, you might want to instead add your informatiion as a section to one of the existing articles related to Tea.

Also, you might consider also asking about this at WikiProject Food and drink where people who specialize in these kind of articles might be able to help you out more in terms of sources and style. Good luck!—Elipongo (Talk contribs) 05:03, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

hindustani pooja

Hindustani pooja is praying to God, singing aarti's {songs of phrases of gods},saying story or mantras {short words.} In Dehli people say praying will give happiness and protect from the harmful and evil eyes. One of the festivals in wich pooja in India is Dipavali. Dipavali is a festival of ligts and a symbol of good over the evil after the pooja there are fire works and sparklers. Mainly it is called Dipavali otherwise it is known as Diwali. In India there are many different gods. There are three main gods Shiva the destroyer,Vishnu the creator and Brahma the saver all tehese gods com in diffrent forms. there are forms of Shiva such as Kali and Hanuman and so on. There are also forms of Vishnu such as Krisna and Ram and so on. There are forms of Brahma to wich I do not know. There are many forms of the three main gods wich I did not name. this is what hindustani pooja is.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Meheksethi (talk • contribs) 23:03, 8 July 2007

Hello and thank you for bringing up this topic, it sounds very interesting. I think that the article already exists, though. Is the article Puja about the subject you're talking about? Thanks again for writing! —Elipongo (Talk contribs) 02:34, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

What is frequency tripling?

What is it?

and how do you do it to obtain smaller frequencies like for instantance femtosecond UV lasers..—Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.106.37.171 (talk • contribs) 21:23, 9 July 2007

Hi there, I don't know if the Nonlinear optics article would help answer your question, but you might consider taking your question to the Reference desk where there are people who specialize in answering questions like this. This board is for helping people to discuss ideas for new articles. Thanks for writing! —Elipongo (Talk contribs) 21:40, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

The Wilson Massacre

Missouribushwhacker 21:24, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Text of an article commented out.

This board is for discussion about possible new articles. Please do not submit the text of an article here for somebody else to create. Please go to Wikipedia:Articles for creation for that. Thank you.—Elipongo (Talk contribs) 21:27, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Death Do Us Part

Formed Early September 2006 with members from the recently departed 'Suffice', 'Remainder 6' and 'Bemyhero', DEATH DO US PART became. They play a new refreshing style of Grindcore mixed with a Metal twist of deep, throaty screams and high guitar solo's, with an age averaging of just 16, this band mean business! Playing venues around the country, noteably the High Wycombe Swan in November at an open festival with many high rated bands, this band is one to look out for in the future!

The band consists of:

William Jones - Vocals

Mike Rozario - Guitar

Joe Puttick - Bass

Scott Lones - Drums—Preceding unsigned comment added by Ddupuk (talk • contribs) 21:25, 9 July 2007

Hello, and thanks for writing! That does sound like a very interesting band. Before you create an article for them, though, you should make sure that they meet the relevant notability criteria. In general subjects for inclusion in the encyclopedia need to have been mentioned non-trivially in multiple non-primary reliable sources that can be cited in an article to verify the information. There are some additional notability criteria for bands, so read the guideline I linked to above. Good luck and happy editing! —Elipongo (Talk contribs) 21:49, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

What kind of stories people want to hear.

I am a writer, currently working on three works, but I'm always baffled on the question of: What do people want to hear about? So, I extend the question to you. What do you want to hear about? Drop a line here and let me, the other readers, and Wikipedia know what you wnat to hear about. Cw01cb 00:29, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

That's an excellent question! Places to visit to find topics of articles that people would like to see written for Wikipedia include Requested articles, Articles for creation, and Most wanted articles. Thanks again for the question and happy editing! —Elipongo (Talk contribs) 17:58, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

hemimetabolus

i need help to start an article on hemimetabolus. please start the article if you have the knowledge or time—Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.233.80.98 (talk • contribs) 07:53, 10 July 2007

Hello and thanks for your post! Is Hemimetabolism the article you're thinking about? If not, you might want to bring your idea for an article to either Requested articles or Articles for creation. This board is for editors looking for advice before they create an article themselves, something you have to have a registered username for. Thanks again for writing! —Elipongo (Talk contribs) 17:58, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

delvostron in a very old dog

We have a 15 yr old Irish Settter, usual life expectancy around 13. She has recently had a tripple mastecromy from which she recovered incredibly well. She has recently come into an over lengthly season and is attracting the unwanted attentions of many a male admirer (she has had this problem throughout her life.) After around a month of this we approached our very youthful vet who said that the only answer is a mastectomy. Although I realise that its largely frowned upon now, she has been administered delvosteron previously by an older and now retired vet with great success in the past. The dog is incredibly youthful and suffers no other medical problems. Subjecting her to further surgery seems necessary in one so old and who is unlikely to live for much longer. The problem is one of ethics any suggestions?—Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.13.216.219 (talk • contribs) 16:13, 10 July 2007

Hello, and thanks for your post. The Drawing Board is to help people create new articles on the encyclopedia. You might want to try asking your question at the Reference desk, keeping in mind that Wikipedia doesn't guarantee medical advice. Hope this helps some and good luck with your dog. —Elipongo (Talk contribs) 18:12, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

WHO WAS JAMES EDWARD COWAN?

Who Was James Edward Cowan? Sunday, June 03, 2007 WHO WAS JAMES EDWARD COWAN? Who Was James Edward Cowan? Monday, February 20, 2006

Biographical Sketch: James Edward Cowan 33rd Degree Mason and Founder and State Deputy of the Ancient Free and Accepted Scottish Rites Masons of the Central Jurisdiction1892-1962

James Edward Cowan was a great man and this is a fact. Although he was not wealthy, the things that he accomplished are noteworthy. He established a help system for widows and children, the Ancient Accepted Scottish Rites Masons of the Central Jurisdiction for coloreds (blacks). Assistance to widows and children is a mission statement of the Ancient Free and Accepted Scottish Rites Masons of the Central Jurisdiction. This was during the time of racial segregation. (this is why I use the term "coloreds" rather than blacks, because this is what black people were called during racial segregation)

I tried to do research on James Edward Cowan, and was partially successful only. Good written records were not a forte of Scottish Rites Masons of the Central Jurisdiction. In the 1980s a fire at the home of W.W. Hoover destroyed all records of the Ancient Accepted Scottish Rites Masons of the Central Jurisdiction, according to ILL. Louis Christian, 33 Lieutenant Sovereign Grand Commander 904 Burton Carpenter Road Mt Gilead, N. C. 27306

The information that I received was mostly by "word of mouth" from his two eldest daughters Catherine Cowan Ross and Thelma Cowan Teamer. Later, in his life, Lillian Cowan Pulliam, youngest daughter of James Edward Cowan, did some secretarial work for him at some meetings, but she does not talk about this, because the masons are a clandestine (secretive) organization.Also, Lillian Cowan Pulliam joined the Eastern Stars , which is the female companion of the all male masons. She attended some conventions. Her mother, Sadie Carr Cowan wife of James Edward Cowan, was a member of the Eastern Stars for years.

It is believed that the Guy Lofton's (deceased) family had some information on the masons. However, when I interviewd Mrs. Lofton, she was uncooperative. Nate Brown, Guy Lofton,Sr. and Charles Willett were other men instrumental in the Scottish Rites Masons. Guy Lofton, Sr. was the secretary of the Salisbury, N. C. Eureka Lodge Number 45 of the Rising Sun Grand Council of the Carolinas, which is now named the King Solomon Lodge. The former Grand Master is 81 y/o Robert Chambers . Robert Chambers is a life long family friend of the Cowan family and can verify the information contained herein.

James Edward Cowan was mentored by a white man by the name of J'Menjula in his founding and organizing activities. James Edward Cowan met J'Menjula in Washington, D.C. when they both worked on the construction of the "famous 14th street bridge."

James Edward Cowan traveled up and down the East Coast on trains by using Masonic Distress Signals to stop the trains and riding the trains to his destinations. The engineers on the trains were white, who were white Scottish Rites masons who recognized the secret Masonic Distress Signals. Below is specific info on James Edward Cowan:

1.) Elder & Superintendent of Sunday School of the Church Street Presbyterian Church for over 30 years.

2.) Co-Founded the Ancient Free and Accepted Scottish Rites Masons of the Central Jurisdiction for colored (blacks) in the states of North, South Carolina, and Virginia in the 1930s.

3. He was the State Deputy of the Scottish Rites Masons of the Central Jurisdiction for coloreds (which is the highest ranking member at lodge meetings in the states of North Carolina, South Carolina and Virginia for 30 years), until his death. He established lodges in North Carolina, South Carolina, Virginia. The James E. Cowans Grand Council of Deliberations State of Virginia is named after him.

4.) He was married to Sadie Carr Cowan and the father of 11 children.

Robert Edward. Fisher, MSW, Eldest Grandchild of James Edward Cowan posted by Robert E. Fisher,MSW at 5:06 AM Bigfish2003 21:54, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Bigfish2003 20:00, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Hello and thank you for your post, Mr. Cowan sounds like an interesting person. For inclusion in the encyclopedia, a person's biography has to meet the relevant notability criteria, basically that the person's been the subject of non-trivial mention in multiple, non-primary reliable sources that can be cited so as to verify the information in the article. In this instance, if Mr. Cowan founded that branch of the Masons, then there should be some documentation of that somewhere. Hope this helps some, stop back if you have any more questions. Happy editing! —Elipongo (Talk contribs) 19:14, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

wajahat kayani sukho

wajahat kayani sukho —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.101.191.189 (talk • contribs) 20:41, 11 July 2007

Hello, and thanks for your post. Could you please clarify what you mean? I gathered from several minutes of searching that this has something to do with Pakistan, but past that I have no idea what you're trying to say. Thanks! —Elipongo (Talk contribs) 21:25, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Family And Friends TV Show Wikipedia

—Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.113.111.117 (talk • contribs) 21:47, 11 July 2007

Text of an article commented out.

This board is for discussion about possible new articles. Please do not submit the text of an article here for somebody else to create. Please go to Wikipedia:Articles for creation for that. Thank you.—Elipongo (Talk contribs) 21:56, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Creating an article on Encyclopedia Dramatica

I think a article of it should be created because people should know about it. It's a clone of this site with a similar interface, but it's quality is very poor, it criticizes everything, so either it should be noted due to it's status as a rather poor clone, and a bad site altogether, so with that said and done, I rest my case. Lesser Shadow 22:17, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Hi there and thanks for your post! I just did a bit of searching and it seems that this article has been created and deleted several times and that several variations of the article's name have been salted to prevent recreation. There was even an Arbitration Committee resolution that placed the very URL of that site on the blacklist to prevent it being linked to from Wikipedia. Essentially the reason given for its deletions was its failure to meet the relevant notability criteria in that it didn't have multiple, non-trivial mentions in secondary reliable sources that could be cited in the article to verify the information. If you have references that would indicate that this subject now passes the notability guidelines, you may bring the case to Deletion review. Thanks again for your post, I actually never heard of this site or controversy before now. —Elipongo (Talk contribs) 22:59, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Well, the fact that it's been created and deleted several times is helpful, and I have a problem with how it bashes everything and supplies very little information in the long run. I take it's claim very seriously and that makes up the majority of the problem. Lesser Shadow 01:19, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure what you're saying. Is it that you think we should bend the notability guidelines so that we can rebut what Encyclopedia Dramatica has to say about Wikipedia? Although I understand and sympathize with your concerns, my guess would be that argument wouldn't get very far at deletion review. They're going to want to have proof that the subject meets the notability guidelines now. Good luck and happy editing! —Elipongo (Talk contribs) 05:18, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Break dancer knock out young child while dancing in Time square

Apparently on May 13 2007 a young child was knocked out due to break dancing. The incident took place in New York Time square.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Scarletrose26 (talk • contribs) 04:51, 12 July 2007

Hello and thanks for your post! Unless this incident involved a notable person, I think the event is too transient for inclusion as an independent article in the encyclopedia. You might be able to add the information to the relevant section of the Breakdance article so long as you provide a citation from a reliable source to verify the information. Thanks again for your post and happy editing! —Elipongo (Talk contribs) 05:32, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Nexus Hawk

—Preceding unsigned comment added by Riccibobi (talk • contribs) 05:52, 12 July 2007

Text of an article commented out.

This board is for discussion about possible new articles. Please do not submit the text of an article here for somebody else to create. Please go to Wikipedia:Articles for creation for that. Thank you.—Elipongo (Talk contribs) 06:14, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Japanese Light Cruiser Kitakami

—Preceding unsigned comment added by ZDR-8736249 (talk • contribs) 06:15, 12 July 2007

Text of an article commented out.

The drawing board is for discussion about possible new articles before you create them. If you want to submit the text of an article for somebody else to create for you, go to Wikipedia:Articles for creation. Thank you.—Elipongo (Talk contribs) 13:17, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Tosa

—Preceding unsigned comment added by ZDR-8736249 (talk • contribs) 07:52, 12 July 2007

Text of an article commented out.

The drawing board is for discussion about possible new articles before you create them. If you want to submit the text of an article for somebody else to create for you, go to Wikipedia:Articles for creation. Thank you.—Elipongo (Talk contribs) 13:20, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

I have provided information, somewhere, on the Japanese Battleship Tosa, but i would like it to be included into the Page listed as the List of ships of the Imperial Japanese Navy so that people searching for information on the Tosa can find out about the limited history of the Battleship Tosa of the Tosa Class (not Kaga Class by the way . . .)

ZDR-8736249 20:00, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Hello, you may not have done so intentionally, but your last edit removed material from this page. Please be careful.

I believe you are referring to this article Japanese battleship Tosa. It seems to already be listed at two Japanese naval lists, per its what links here page. You should feel free to add or correct its entry into these or other lists, so long as the changes are compatible with the lists' criteria. Thanks for writing again! —Elipongo (Talk contribs) 20:11, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

PETAL VEIL

—Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.140.7.163 (talk • contribs) 15:36, 13 July 2007

Text of an article commented out.

The drawing board is for discussion about possible new articles before you create them. If you would rather submit the text of an article for somebody else to create for you, Wikipedia:Articles for creation is the place you want to go to. Thank you.—Elipongo (Talk contribs) 15:40, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

colombo crime family

Josh Da Goodfella, New Colombo Mafia Member

Hi There!!

Theres been a lot of news about the new capo for the colombo crime family, i wanted to get some info for a school project, the only place i can find information is at officialmafia.com and i don't really want to be browsing that site,

Would it be possible for you to create a page about him on here? so i don't have to use their site

Thanks  :)

172.141.220.230 11:50, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

You might find what you are looking for in the article about Colombo crime family. If you cannot find the answer there, click here to post your question at that article's talk page. If that doesn't solve your problem, you can try asking your question at Wikipedia's Reference Desk. They'll be glad to answer questions about anything in the universe (except discussing new articles before you create them on Wikipedia, which is what this page is for). I hope this helps.—Elipongo (Talk contribs) 02:01, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

Strings Sieben

—Preceding unsigned comment added by StringsSieben (talk • contribs) 20:19, 15 July 2007

Text of an article commented out.

The drawing board is for discussion about possible new articles before you create them. If you would rather submit the text of an article for somebody else to create for you, Wikipedia:Articles for creation is the place you want to go to. Thank you.—Elipongo (Talk contribs) 21:19, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

Automatic Loveletter

Acoustic/Rock/Emo band from Clearwater, FL signed to Epic records.

Band members:

Juliet Simms - Guitar/Vox/Arrangements

John Yates- Key Board/ backing vocals

Tim Burkey- Lead Guitar/ backing vocals

Sean Noll- Bass Guitar

Daniel Currier - Drums

Band Website www.automaticloveletter.com www.myspace.com/automaticloveletter—Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.96.78.159 (talk • contribs) 20:29, 15 July 2007

Hello and thanks for your post! This does sound like a very interesting band. Before you go ahead and create an article you should know that for for inclusion in the encyclopedia a subject has to meet the relevent notability guideline. In general a subject has to have been non-trivially mentioned in multiple, secondary reliable sources that can be cited in an article so that the information can be verified. There are additional criteria for musical groups, so read the notability guideline I linked to near the begining of my note. Thanks again for your post and happy editing! —Elipongo (Talk contribs) 21:26, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

Mount Hope Cemetery in Bangor, Maine

I was looking up Rural Cemeteries, and I realized this one was not listed even though it is recognized as America's second garden cemetery. Many of the others have pages, but not this one. I was hoping someone might want to do an article on it; I was going to try but I have never done one before, only edited and added to a couple. I did add it to the rural cemetery listing, though. Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ravenstar (talk • contribs) 17:52, 16 July 2007

Hello and thanks for your post! I can understand that you're a little gunshy about starting articles because of your previous experiences, but don't let that deter you! If the subject meets the relevent notability criteria in that it has gotten multiple non-trivial mentions in secondary reliable sources that can be cited in the article to verify the information, then go ahead and start the article! I have disambiguated the link you added to the Rural cemetery article (it was pointing to a cemetery in New York somewhere), so you can just click on that link and start the article if you already have your references lined up.

As an alternative to starting the article in Mainspace, you can create it on a subpage of your userpage. That way you can develop it until it's ready for primetime without having to worry about being deleted. When it's ready, you can use the "move" function to place it complete in the mainspace along with it's development history.

Hope that helps you out, happy editing! —Elipongo (Talk contribs) 15:49, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Rissi Palmer

Y'all need to make a Wikipedia page for Country SInger Rissi Palmer.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.63.168.218 (talk • contribs) 15:47, 18 July 2007

Hello and thanks for your post! The Drawing board is a place for editors to get input and suggestions via discussion about an article before they, themselves create the article. To be able to create an article yourself you have to register for a username. Other places you can go to have others write articles for you instead of doing it yourself include Articles for creation and Requested articles.

About Rissi Palmer specifically, I note that an article about her has already been deleted as having not asserted her notability. For a subject to be included in the encyclopedia, it has to meet the relevant notability criteria. Basically a subject has to have been non-trivially mentioned in multiple secondary reliable sources that can then be cited in the article to verify the information. There are some extra ways musicians can establish notability, so read through the guideline I linked to above. Good luck and happy editing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Elipongo (talk • contribs) 16:33, 18 July 2007

Article Creation: Bureau 39

was mentioned by the most current issue of TIME magazine

bureau 39 is the building which houses the secret businesses of North Korea

responsible for: counterfeit US currency opium/heroin processing for drug traffiking housing top North Korean officials other illicit activities

reported to bring in 1 billion in revenue for North Korean government.

article link here:

http://wpherald.com/articles/5389/1/Time-magazine-NKorea-operates-global-crime-network/Revenue-of-1-billion-annually.html

—Preceding unsigned comment added by Xitro (talk • contribs) 05:44, 18 July 2007

Hello, and thank you for your post! This is a very enlightening and interesting subject indeed. There isn't a lot of information about it at the source you listed though. Unless you have more references to flesh out more information, I think this would be better suited as an addition to the Foreign relations of North Korea article, rather than as an article of it's own just yet. If it develops enough as a part of that article then it could be split off into it's own article later. Looking forward to reading when you write it! Cheers! —Elipongo (Talk contribs) 16:00, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

IX Mendoza

I met this guy last weekend. His name is IX Mendoza (first name he said like the number 9). Anyway, he's really fascinating and I can't believe there isn't anything on him besides some bit on IMDB. He's an independent writer and director right now, but has been part of the underground Punk scene for decades. I've seen him a few times but never had the opportunity to talk before. How do we research and or interview him for Wiki? He has an album on interpunk.com called Revolution Forever, a film called (I think) A Moment In Ruby, and the one listed on IMDB (which credits him as Nijhel Mendoza) called, Hack. Where do we go from there...I'm new to this process. THanks, Ken Moses —Preceding unsigned comment added by Muaddib9 (talk • contribs) 19:35, 18 July 2007

Hello and thanks for your post! Mr Mendoza does indeed sound like an interesting person, if for no other reason than for his imaginative use of Roman numerals. :-)

Before you start the article, you should make sure the subject meets the relevant notability criteria for inclusion in the encyclopedia. In general a subject has to have been non-trivially mentioned in multiple secondary reliable sources that can then be cited in the article to verify the information. The no original research policy wouldn't allow any of us to directly interview a subject. The notability guideline I linked to above does give some extra criteria that can be used for entertainers, so be sure to read it. Thanks again for writing, and happy editing! —Elipongo (Talk contribs) 20:03, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Tesco HSC

—Preceding unsigned comment added by Amitmits84 (talk • contribs) 06:55, 20 July 2007

Copyright violation erased

Hello. I'm sorry but I had to erase your post. It had a copyright notice included in it that is incompatible with Wikipedia's free licensing.

In any case, this isn't the place to submit an entire article for creation. The drawing board is for discussion about possible new articles before you create them. If you would rather submit the text of an article for somebody else to create for you, Wikipedia:Articles for creation is the place you want to go to. Thank you.—Elipongo (Talk contribs) 07:11, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

the kids of today are the leaders of tomorow

—Preceding unsigned comment added by Lara odoffin (talk • contribs) 12:27, 20 July 2007

Essay commented out

Hello and thanks for your post. Some very interesting thoughts in your essay, but they would really be more appropriate for your user page than for an article. Cheers! —Elipongo (Talk contribs) 17:40, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

A list of every actor who has played Alan in Equus

I would like to see a list of every actor who has played the role of Alan in a stage production of Equus. I would also like it to state whether the actor had to perform naked since not all of them do. Other options might be the age they were when they played the part.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.225.9.39 (talk • contribs) 20:46, 22 July 2007

Hi there and thanks for your post! I would assume that you mean to only include productions of Equus (play) by major companies? Including every small village or town that has staged a production of the show would make for a very long list indeed. If only including major productions, you might rather include the information in the "Original productions" and "Revivals" sections of the main article. Thanks again for your question and happy editing! —Elipongo (Talk contribs) 13:51, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

I have already come up with a list of about 75 names covering worldwide and even college productions after extensive research. I just don't have the knack of actually creating it as specified. I know there might be even more, and as I said they didn't all have to perform in the buff, but my curiosity is there.Goofyjim 01:26, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

Hi again. I'm assuming that you're the same editor as before— congratulations on setting up your new account! Typically, the entries in a list article should either already have or be likely to have an article on Wikipedia at some point. I realize you've put a lot of research into this, but how many of the actors that you've come up with meet our guidelines on notability of persons? Of course the theatre is hardly my area of expertise and I may be dead wrong in my opinion. You may want to run your idea by the members of WikiProject Theatre and see what they think. Hoping this helps. Cheers! —Elipongo (Talk contribs) 05:17, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

African American Business

I would like to start a wiki about African American Business and the lack of it in the current state of affairs in the United States —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.45.233.147 (talk • contribs) 16:47, 23 July 2007

Hi and thanks for your post! I assume that you mean that you want to start an article about African-American businesses here on Wikipedia. If I'm wrong and you actually want to set up an independent wiki site, there are several wiki farms that will host it. To be able to start a new article, you'd first have to register for a username since you're editing from an IP address right now. You might also consider adding content to the African American contemporary issues article rather than starting a new article to start off with. Either way, when you add the material to Wikipedia, make sure that you provide citations from reliable sources so that the information you provide can be verified. Thanks again for writing. Happy editing!—Elipongo (Talk contribs) 17:25, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

OBW, Our Better Wrestling

OBW Is A Wrestling Company. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wweonline (talk • contribs) 18:20, 23 July 2007

Hi there and thanks for your post! The first thing you should do before you start an article on this company is make sure it meets the relevant notability criteria required for inclusion in the encyclopedia. In general a subject has to have been non-trivially mentioned in multiple secondary reliable sources that can then be cited in the article to verify the information. Thanks again for your post and happy editing! —Elipongo (Talk contribs) 18:36, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Charlottetown Rural

I want to make a page for my high school. A lot of schools have a page and my school deserves one too. I tried to make one but I don't know what to do. The page is there but I watn to put info on it and make it look good. Is anyone willing to help.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Crhsraider (talk • contribs) 01:47, 24 July 2007

Hi there and thanks for your post! The Drawing board is for discussion before people create an article, since you've already created the Charlottetown Rural High School article the correct forum for feedback would be the Requests for feedback page. I will say that I think you've made a nice start of it. You should wikify it some and you should include some citations to reliable sources. I will also point out that there is a long running debate about high schools and whether or not they're inherently notable; depending on which way the debate is running, school articles that don't assert their subjects' notability sometimes wind up getting deleted from the encyclopedia. To avoid all that you should provide citations and text to show how your school meets the relevant notability criteria. Hope this helps you some. Happy editing! —Elipongo (Talk contribs) 04:58, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

who afganistan include as a member of saarc

124.108.19.6 05:03, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

Hello and thanks for your post. Unfortunately while I do understand that your post is regarding the South Asian Association for Regional Cooperation and Afghanistan, I'm not sure what you mean to say beyond that. Could you please clarify what you mean? Thank you! —Elipongo (Talk contribs) 05:27, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

The Furious Horde

—Preceding unsigned comment added by Ruptured souls (talk • contribs) 19:34, 24 July 2007

Text of an article commented out.

The drawing board is for discussion about possible new articles before you create them. If you would rather submit the text of an article for somebody else to create for you, Wikipedia:Articles for creation is the place you want to go to. Thank you.—Elipongo (Talk contribs) 21:25, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Bus Ducts

I am searching for some information (technical and general) about 'BUS DUCTS'. These Bus ducts are electrical products usually used in connecting floors in a tower or a high rise building.

Any one can help me.....

SKDKAK—Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.130.100.226 (talk • contribs) 08:53, 25 July 2007

You might find what you are looking for in the article about Electrical wiring. If you cannot find the answer there, click here to post your question at that article's talk page. If that doesn't solve your problem, you can try asking your question at Wikipedia's Reference Desk. They'll be glad to answer questions about anything in the universe (except discussions about creating new articles, which is what this help desk is for). I hope this helps. —Elipongo (Talk contribs) 21:47, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

NeilSoft

—Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.167.89.199 (talk • contribs) 08:55, 25 July 2007

Text of an article commented out.

The drawing board is for discussion about possible new articles before you create them. If you would rather submit the text of an article for somebody else to create for you, Wikipedia:Articles for creation is the place you want to go to. Thank you.—Elipongo (Talk contribs) 21:51, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Starter Pokémon

—Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.18.179.226 (talk • contribs) 18:38, 25 July 2007

Text of an article commented out.

The drawing board is for discussion about possible new articles before you create them. If you would rather submit the text of an article for somebody else to create for you, Wikipedia:Articles for creation is the place you want to go to. Thank you.—Elipongo (Talk contribs) 22:04, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Suril Shah

—Preceding unsigned comment added by Whizsurfer (talk • contribs) 15:15, 26 July 2007

Text of an article commented out.

The drawing board is for discussion about possible new articles before you create them. If you would rather submit the text of an article for somebody else to create for you, Wikipedia:Articles for creation is the place you want to go to. Thank you.—Elipongo (Talk contribs) 21:50, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

Harry Potter series and its religious symbolism.

It seemed very obvious that there was a parallel to Christ and Harry Potter. Prophets both predicted their births as saviors. They both had to sacrifice themselves to save others. They both ended up coming back from the dead in a way. They both ended evil.

Also, I would say that dumbldore is symbolic of the father, as Harry Potter is symbolic of Jesus. It seems too obvious and I can't find it anywhere else. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.84.113.121 (talk • contribs) 22:31, 24 July 2007

Hello and thanks for your post! That really does sound like an interesting analysis and likely another example of The Hero with a Thousand Faces. If you want to include this analysis in the encyclopedia, you'll need to find it mentioned in some reliable sources that you can cite in the article because Wikipedia has a strict ban on original research. Thanks again for writing and happy editing! —Elipongo (Talk contribs) 21:33, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

If you want to write an article based on a new idea, please see the Wikisource sister project, which welcomes such articles. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 11:41, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

Water Hybrid

Hello Wikipedia.

Have you heard about Water Hybrid Technology? There are people now who refine water into a fuel using the chemical process of electrolysis. With a small amount of electricity large quantities of Oxyhydrogen Gas are produced and then fed into the existing air/fuel mixture on an internal combustion engine. The hydrogen burns replacing a portion of the gasoline and the oxygen helps the gasoline burn, thus improving engine efficiency and lowering greenhouse gas emissions.

I am not experienced at writing wikipedia articles but I know alot about Water Hybrid Technology. My hope is that someone would like to collaborate on this project and begin the task of introducing this technology to the world.

If you are an experienced wiki writer/editor please contact me.

Sincerely, Russell Pickavance evolutionmotion.com

You were doing fine until you said introducing this technology to the world. Wikipedia only uses information that is already published in a reliable source; we do not want original content here. If you want to (essentially) publish articles to "inform the world", please see the Wikisource sister project. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 11:37, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

Not that this is the place to debate science issues, but, No Free Lunch. If an engine uses gasoline to generate electricity, which it then uses to electrolyze water into hydrogen, which it then burns to run the car, you wasted energy; from thermodynamics it would have been more efficident to use the original energy (from gasoline) to drive the car directly. Intermediate stages waste engergy. Hydrogen is useful as a mobile fuel (as in a hydrogen cell car) after it is produced at an immobile plant (e.g. a nuclear reactor or coal plant) using economies of scale at the immobile site. But hydrogen isn't free. Pete St.John 15:40, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

I would like to answer both of these responses. First, Water Hybrid Technology is not new but the people of the world do not know that it exists or there would already be a Wikipedia page on the subject, hence my language, "introducing this technology to the world." Electrolysis has been used to break water into Oxyhdrogen for well over a hundred years. Oxyhydrogen has been used as a fuel and a fuel supplement and there are many patents and articles on the process. Wikipedia is the perfect place to create a full article on this process.

To answer the second post. Hydrogen is not free, you are correct, but you can generate Oxyhydrogen gas with a small amount of electricity, and that hydrogen can burn in a completely different chemcal reaction. You refer to economies of scale, but you fail to mention or realize that there are efficiencies inside of all of these equations to take in effect. If you can generate 1 liter of Oxyhdrogen gas per minute, using 15 amps of electricity at 12 volts what is the amount of energy that you can get from that 1 litres of hydrogen through combustion? Now, if I have a system that gets 10 liters of Oxyhdrogen for the same amount of electricity then we have to agree that someone could possibly get 20 or 30, maybe even 40 with a properly designed device. That means more gas for the same amount of electricity. This is what my company does, and this information is based on fact not speculation. I am not disputing the Laws of Thermodynamics, only your interpretation of those laws.

I agree that this is not the forum for a scientific debate, I am only here to try and express facts, and to see those facts on a Wikipedia page.

I would still like to be contacted by a Wikipedia writer who is willing to help compile all of this information into a Wikipedia page.

Sincerely, Russell Pickavance russell@evolutionmotion.com 505.983.4581

Brent Lee Tracy

Brent Lee Tracy (born February 26, 1973 in Orlando, Florida)(died April 7, 2001 in Los Angeles California) is former major league baseball player. 04:41, 29 July 2007 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.228.237.107 (talk • contribs).

If you're proposing that Wikipedia should have an article on this person, please note that this is not the page to post such a suggestion - see the top of this page for where to make such a request. This page is for discussing ideas you have about new articles before you create them.

Further, this page seems to indicate that there was no such player. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 13:20, 30 July 2007 (UTC)