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I'm reminded of the old gag sign "You don't have to be mad to work here but it helps." Anyway, there's no shortage of material and food for thought. Andrew🐉(talk) 19:24, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

Kept, but still needs a transfusion from the available sources. Can you donate today? Don't call the Red Cross or Red Crescent (you should do that too); go to the article. There is a real need. 7&6=thirteen () 14:50, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
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Life is just a game, and so that's part of this article. I suspect language, culture, country or origin and Wikipedia's demographics and systemic issues are why this hasn't been developed. 7&6=thirteen () 18:19, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

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Native Plants Journal is a major peer-reviewed scientific journal that is widely read and cited in multiple plant-related disciplines. If sourcing is indeed an issue, please feel free to help. Thank you! Thriley (talk) 09:12, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

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Redirect This was one of the multiple combined nominations for deletion brought to you by our esteemed editors. Per the closer: "The result was redirect to USS John R. Craig (DD-885)#Namesake and commissioning. This time around, consensus is rather clearly against keeping this as a separate article. There is no clear consensus about whether and what to merge, but this seems to be a moot distinction because much content appears to have been merged already. It's now up to the editorial process to determine whether to reduce or enhance the biographical content in the target article."
This was one of those soldier/decoration/ship named articles.
All of the content from the article about the man should be put into this article. 7&6=thirteen () 14:13, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

I think it is all (or most) already there. 7&6=thirteen () 16:09, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

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Ravi is an organizer of the 'Fridays For Future' campaign in India who was recently arrested due to her alleged involvement with Greta Thunberg's a toolkit promoted by Greta Thunberg and designed to support Indian farmers and their peaceful protests. Additional sources and general editing would benefit this article. Beccaynr (talk) 03:41, 15 February 2021 (UTC) (comment updated Beccaynr (talk) 22:02, 15 February 2021 (UTC))

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Andollo Lopez is a record-setting free diver who according to CNN in 2001, has been able to "free dive more than 100 meters on one breath. This exceeds the depth most World War II submarines could descend before imploding." This article would benefit from additional sources and general editing, if anyone would like to dive in. Beccaynr (talk) 23:43, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

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Hello, world. I created the article Susanna Ng during Women in Red's October to December 2020 Women in Asia contest. Susanna Ng was the regional managing director of the first international music publisher to open in Mainland China. She is regarded as a notable professional by her peers in the music industry, as you can tell when reading the sources I included in the article. Some users (probably not familiar with the music business) argue her notability, probably because they expect the kind of press coverage artists get. On top of that, she is Taiwanese. Most of the press about her is in Mandarin, which I do not speak. Thank you very much for your help. TanookiKoopa (talk) 00:20, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

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According to the Boston Globe in 2015, "It was tough to ignore the Hemp Lady, a.k.a. Caroline Killeen, during the 1996 New Hampshire primary: a 70-year-old cycling ex-nun who wore a giant marijuana leaf across her chest like a superhero's badge," who also "staged numerous long-distance bicycle rides over the years for political and environmental causes, urging onlookers to "Killeen Up The Earth."" The addition of sources from the AfD discussion and elsewhere, and general 'Killeen Up' would benefit this article. Beccaynr (talk) 23:24, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

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"Dick, I'm very disappointed..." Andrew🐉(talk) 10:08, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

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Chopra is an actor who was a prominent part of the Me Too movement (India) in 2018 and was named the 2019 Feminist Voice of the Year by the Cosmopolitan India Editor's panel. I have added sources and revised this article, but more sources and general editing may be beneficial. Beccaynr (talk) 19:58, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

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I built this article from an existing redirect and added several reviews, as you can see in this version of the article, but the article was reverted to a redirect; can anyone help me find additional sources to help assert notability so that it can be restored? 2601:243:1C80:6740:59CF:B77D:BCE8:D61D (talk) 03:33, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

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Another of the WP:Soldier deletions. Canadian soldier in WW I. Article is minimally sourced and in need of a transfusion. I am having trouble finding sources. 7&6=thirteen () 13:54, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

Please review the ARS Code of Conduct, the canvassing guideline, and WP:5P4
Yes that's why it should be deleted. Mztourist (talk) 06:41, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
Your comment belongs at WP:ADS. You are de facto a member; so maybe you want to set up that project. Just saying ...
Come to think about it, I've never actually seen you posting any article for rescue at WP:ARS. Maybe I missed it? It reflects a philosophical and moral question, I suppose. It says a lot about why you are here. But those who follow this page will figure that out for themselves. Your true colors are on display.
On the merits, well not necessarily. Trying to find sources concerning old events (he died in WW I) is problematical. A subscription to newspapers.com would help. 7&6=thirteen () 12:31, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
I have previously explained why I am here, because this project seems to be more about canvassing than rescuing and so I will comment wherever I see fit. Mztourist (talk) 16:54, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
You do what you want. I can't stop you. I will consider the source. You can canvas away; and pound sand while you are at it. We're done here. 7&6=thirteen () 17:10, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
I don't engage in canvassing. Mztourist (talk) 09:21, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
Also known as "Mahlon Davis", "Wm. Mahlon Davis", "W. Mahlon Davis". -- GreenC 19:54, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
Which explains some of the problem. GIGO. 7&6=thirteen () 19:56, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
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Navy Cross, ship named. Part of Torpedo Squadron 8 at Battle of Midway. All but one of them died in the attack. But it put the Zeroes down low, which made possible the successful bombing attack that sunk three Japanese carriers. 7&6=thirteen () 21:13, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

This is a wrong-headed decision. Important squadron commander. Ignores lots of sources. WP:Before flouted.
The redirect, burying it in the omnibus Navy Cross Article (an Elephant Burial Ground for unwanted articles), is also wrong. If a redirect was required, it plainly should have gone with a MERGE to VT-8.
I had other things to do than save this article; but it will be back with new sources in due course, when I can find time to devote to the project. If anybody else wants to work on this, I have the basic supplemental research done. Contact me via email. 7&6=thirteen () 17:00, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
This editorialising is intended to achieve what exactly? Mztourist (talk) 03:33, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
Give hope that what was lost can one day be returned. Dream Focus 03:41, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
What was wrongfully lost can be salvaged. Do you want to help? 7&6=thirteen () 04:54, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
I don't know how it can be saved here. https://military.wikia.org/wiki/William_W._Creamer has it though. Dream Focus 05:02, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

Apparently you again don't want to look at the sources. Which has been a persistent problem. Recreation is possible. 7&6=thirteen () 13:30, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

Actually, I do intend to restore this article. The proposed deletion was wrong; and the redirect misguided. The article should be kept. There are and always have been lots of sources. And it should be restored. Properly rewriting and referencing an article with this history takes time. If you want to help with that (regulars only please), contact me and let me know and I can send you the research. And I'll get around to it when I have the time. 7&6=thirteen () 12:52, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
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Dead British naval officer. Question of notability. 7&6=thirteen () 15:42, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

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Hamiliton's work has included the voice of April Ryan in 1999 and 2006 video games. Sources I have found and added to the article indicate Hamilton was still prominent in 2013 when it was reported she would return to the third game in the series, and in 2014, due to reports on her request for assistance with medical bills. However, additional sources and expansion of this article would likely be beneficial, particularly from editors with knowledge of video games and the sources that regularly report on them. Beccaynr (talk) 17:08, 25 February 2021 (UTC) (comment updated Beccaynr (talk) 17:32, 25 February 2021 (UTC))

Thank you! Beccaynr (talk) 02:34, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
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I am the COI editor who wrote the article back in 2007. Now it is coming up for AFD. Please keep in mind the following sources that show WP:BASIC and WP:RS:

  1. Encyclopedia of American biography, page 240: Lewis F. Byington's six years as district attorney marked him as a leader among his fellow-citizens.
  2. History of the bench and bar of Nevada, page 247 During his office he prosecuted and secured conviction of many of the most important criminal cases in the history of San Francisco.
  3. San Francisco; a brief biographical sketch of some of the most Prominent Men, page 46 Mr. Byington's brilliant record, on the Board of Supervisors, which lead to his being tendered the nomination for District Attorney in 1899.
  4. Byington wrote several books about history and gave speeches to California Historical Society, e.g. quarterly. v.3-4 1924-25. Early Mining Days in Sierra County.
  5. San Francisco County Biographies History of the San Francisco Bay Region, volume= 3, page 332.
  6. California Review by Henry F. Pernau, page 5 Lewis F. Byington, Grand President of the Native Sons of the Golden West.
  7. Men who made San Francisco, page 124 He has secured the greatest number of convictions of any district attorney in the history of SF.
  8. I encourage other editors to work on the article too, standardizing the format or copy-editing or adding content. Thanks! --Greg Henderson (talk) 20:44, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

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Done. --Greg Henderson (talk) 21:21, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
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Professor Malik is Indian legal education administrator, presently working in Central University of Haryana (CUH) as Head and Dean, school of Law at Mahendragarh, India. He has been member of the Expert committee constituted by the University Grants Commission (India) for making the Guidelines on Examinations and Academic Calendar for the Universities in India, in view of COVID-19 pandemic and subsequent lockdown. He is founder Dean of School of law. Dean of Law is a remarkable position and in every State only one Central University is in India and notable in Haryana. Article may be saved. HariSinghw (talk) 00:16, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

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A.R.S. Assemble! Andrew🐉(talk) 18:13, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

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First it was put into maintenance then into Afd. Here is the discussion: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Cheman_Shaik I have added secondary evidences and improved the article. Help improve itWisdomwiki 40 (talk) 16:14, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

Hello members, I can't see any action. Can I expect some response? I have placed so many independent secondary citations from print and the digital world to prove the notability of the subject. Improved the article many a time. It takes efforts to create an article, it shouldn't go in vain with just one Afdtag. The voting mechanism shouldn't be so quick that without discussion users start exercising their right. Please have a look on the discussion page and the article.

Hi @Wisdomwiki 40: an ARS member has participated in the discussion, and I have looked for secondary coverage beyond the sources you have brought into the article and discussion, but I am not very familiar with this specific topic area. However, you may want to review the explanatory supplement Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources and the WP:BASIC notability guideline. Thank you for following up, Beccaynr (talk) 17:35, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
  • I did look over it, and unless the guy's software is being used by major companies or government agencies, I don't see how its notable. Others had similar things for years now. Dream Focus 18:02, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

thanks Dream Focus, once read the complete article and discussion. there have been patent infringements by top companies that was settled in the court in favor of the patent holder company that received the patent from the scientist legally. Delete the article, if you still not satisfied. I don't want to continue the discussion any further, thereby wasting your time as well as mine. Thanks for the effort Wisdomwiki 40 (talk) 18:29, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

I suggest that that anyone interested userfy the page as it exists. Save a copy where you can find it, so it can be updated later. WP:Too soon, maybe? You don't need a weatherman to see which way the wind blows. If there are not WP:RS, we can't cure it. I do think that more/better sources in other languages might exist, and I put that thought on the AFD. Sorry. 7&6=thirteen () 14:14, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

(, thanks for the attention and suggestion. When shall I userfy it? will I be notified before the deletion here? Wisdomwiki 40 (talk) 17:52, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

The WP:USERFY essay offers perspective on the timing in the WP:USERFY#NO section and notes, "For help getting a copy of a deleted article, to put into your userspace, see Category:Wikipedia administrators willing to provide copies of deleted articles, or post at Wikipedia:Requests for undeletion." Beccaynr (talk) 18:20, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

thanks a lot to learn Beccaynr!Wisdomwiki 40 (talk) 18:41, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

User:Wisdomwiki 40 The other way to do this is to go to the article NOW, select EDIT, and copy everything that is there. You can squirrel away a copy (for example in your sandbox) or send it to yourself in an email. This is an easy workaround. 7&6=thirteen () 00:02, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
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VanFleet's music career began during childhood with a significant Metal influence, and has continued to develop, with what appears to be frequent coverage in publications devoted to "a notable music sub-culture." The addition of sources and general editing would benefit this article. Beccaynr (talk) 02:10, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

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DYK for Kristoffer Domeij

On 10 March 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Kristoffer Domeij, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Kristoffer Domeij (pictured) set a record when he died after 14 tours of duty in more than 10 years as a Special Operations Ranger? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Kristoffer Domeij. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Kristoffer Domeij), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (ie, 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:01, 10 March 2021 (UTC) 7&6=thirteen () 01:03, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Capitalism: A Journal of History and Economics

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The journal Capitalism: A Journal of History and Economics was nominated for deletion. I think it passes notability requirements. Please take a look and let your opinion be known. Thank you, Thriley (talk) 21:53, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

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@Thriley: Done. Sorry for forgetting to do that. Best, Thriley (talk) 22:13, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
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I built this article from an existing redirect and added several reviews, as you can see in this version of the article, but the article was reverted to a redirect; can anyone help me find additional sources to help assert notability so that it can be restored? 98.32.219.40 (talk) 01:47, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

  • All the information seems to be in the other article. Short articles can be combined. "The third game in the series combined the gameplay aspects of its predecessors," and they added a new car. So not much difference there than the other two in the series. There are also limits to how many reviews most game articles have. Dream Focus 01:53, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

I built this article from an existing redirect and added several reviews, as you can see in this version of the article, but the article was reverted to a redirect; can anyone help me find additional sources to help assert notability so that it can be restored? 98.32.219.40 (talk) 13:49, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

  • If all the information is the same, no reason to copy it to a new article. Only if it could be expanded to have more content than would fit on the main page would you need to do this. Dream Focus 15:06, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

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The Institute for Social Ecology was listed for deletion on February 24th. I did a quick search and found additional sources [[1]], [[2]], [[3]], in addition a news story already on the page provides some good history: [[4]].

This is a notable institution that exists outside co-founder Murray Bookchin's article. The institution has now existed for 14 years after Bookchin's death. This, and the very nature of the place as a collaborative educational institution, make it important to have a stand-alone article. Thank you, Thriley (talk) 02:35, 3 March 2021 (UTC) *Kept Per the closer: "The result was keep." 7&6=thirteen () 17:44, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

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Congratulations

Your DYK hook about Special Operations Ranger Kristoffer Domeij drew 36,697 page views (3,058 per hour) while on the Main Page. It is the most viewed hook for the month of March and ranks as the second most viewed hook (so far) of 2021, as shown at Top hooks of 2021. Keep up the great work! Cbl62 (talk) 17:25, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

Cbl62 Thank you. 7&6=thirteen () 18:05, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

I built this article from an existing redirect and added several reviews, as you can see in this version of the article, but the article was reverted to a redirect; can anyone help me find additional sources to help assert notability so that it can be restored? 2601:243:1C80:6740:6D3B:D5BA:1BFB:F4C9 (talk) 05:49, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

Its an old simple game, not much to write about it other than reviews, and you don't need that many reviews. Everything about it fits in the main article for the trilogy. If there was nowhere to merge it to, then of course it'd need to be its own article based on reviews. But when the three games of that trilogy fit together in one article just fine, let it be. Dream Focus 14:49, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

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Ng holds a PhD in art history, is a curator at The Frick Collection and specializes in Italian Renaissance art. Over the past year, she garnered media attention for her role in the Cocktails with a Curator virtual tours offered by The Frick, and she has otherwise appeared as an expert in The New York Times and apparently, in a variety of non-English sources, of which a few are linked in the AfD discussion that was recently relisted for a second time. Assistance with finding sources and incorporating non-English sources that refer to her expertise would benefit this article. Beccaynr (talk) 01:14, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

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Filmmaker. Notability questioned. 7&6=thirteen () 13:06, 14 March 2021 (UTC)

  • Deleted Per the closer: "The result was delete. While the participation of new editors is always appreciated, their views are given little weight due to their tendency towards unfamiliarity with Wikipedia standards for inclusion. Furthermore, citation to blogs and other self-published or user-editable websites, primary sources, and other non-reliable sources weakens rather than strengthening the argument for inclusion." 7&6=thirteen () 10:21, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
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This was a US project in the 1990s but my access to US press coverage from that era is not so good. Perhaps a US-based editor could help. Andrew🐉(talk) 00:20, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

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Notable businessperson that passes WP:NBUSINESSPERSON as the CEO of Michaels. Needs perhaps just a bit more sourcing.--Kieran207(talk-Contribs) 00:07, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

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Deswal is an Indian academic who has written scholarly articles on various new areas of law, including violence against women, and frequently writes legal commentary in Indian news media. The article creator and I have added sources, but additional sources would improve this article. Beccaynr (talk) 20:31, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

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Paxton (1875-1939) was a civic leader, political activist, and suffragist. She has an entry in the Dictionary of Virginia Biography, and I have built out the article primarily from that source. However, it would be helpful to find additional sources to add depth and detail, including dates of her various activities. Editors with Newspapers.com subscriptions would likely be a particular benefit to this endeavor. Beccaynr (talk) 03:45, 26 March 2021 (UTC)

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Anand is the director of the Stanford Center for Tubulointerstitial Kidney Disease and a clinical researcher with an apparent theme within her career of examining systemic bias in the prevalance and outcome of disease, including in India, Sri Lanka, and California. She also led a study published in September 2020 that received wide attention for estimating COVID-19 infection rates in the United States, including the racial and economic disparities in infection rates, in part due to the research method, but also in how it undermined the notion that a 'natural' herd immunity could be quickly acheived. The research is also apparently continuing to monitor study participants to help inform COVID-19 mitigation tactics. I have been revising and adding sources to the article, but there are more available that could help develop the encyclopedic content, and assistance would be appreciated. Beccaynr (talk) 01:53, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

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"Oh dear, what can the matter be ..." Andrew🐉(talk) 09:33, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

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I restored this previously redirected article and added a bunch of sources, as you can see in this version of the article, and yet the article was reverted to a redirect; can anyone help me find additional sources to help assert notability so that it can be restored? I created a draft at Draft:Pirates! Gold so that content can be added there while the original article remains as a redirect. 2601:243:1C80:6740:6D3B:D5BA:1BFB:F4C9 (talk) 06:20, 3 April 2021 (UTC)

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Driving your Chevy to the levy and the Little Red Corvette are just songs on the radio to me here in London, so this topic could use an American touch... Andrew🐉(talk) 15:35, 26 March 2021 (UTC)

  • Kept No consensus. Per the closer: "The result was no consensus. There is some sourcing provided in the article, but some disagreement as to whether the coverage is "significant" as is described in WP:GNG. With reasonable arguments on either side, and no obvious policy reason to do otherwise, the default is to close as no consensus." 7&6=thirteen () 21:54, 3 April 2021 (UTC)
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Heroic soldier who died in India. Question of notability. WP:One event; WP:GNG; and WP:Soldier (which is deprecated)? 7&6=thirteen () 14:13, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

Deleted Closed as delete. I left a message on the closer's page, asking her to reconsider the closure. Or alternatively, to userfy the article to me, so that I can add the almost two dozen sources the two Deletion voters overlooked or ignored 7&6=thirteen () 18:15, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
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A fine display by one of the ARS's heavy-lift choppers, call-sign 7&6=13! Andrew🐉(talk) 20:42, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

Message received. Thank you for the message. I've given it my best. In the hands of the gods. 7&6=thirteen () 21:27, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
Kept Per the closer: "The result was keep. Paying particular attention to those who assessed the topic after the page's significant expansion (all arguing for a "keep" outcome), there is a consensus that GNG is met." 7&6=thirteen () 02:28, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
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As noted in the nom, Beltràn is "a high-profile indie developer responsible for the award-winning tabletop game Bluebeard’s Bride." She also founded the advocacy organization Gaming as Other to promote inclusivity in the gaming community. She is a member of the 2021 Future Class of The Game Awards and the narrative director for an upcoming D&D game. Additional sources would benefit this article. Beccaynr (talk) 22:27, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

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Could use some pre-web era digging by those with access to more databases than I do at the moment. — Rhododendrites talk \\ 17:38, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

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Your country needs YOU! Andrew🐉(talk) 16:48, 3 April 2021 (UTC)

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Bomber Command veteran. Question of notability. 7&6=thirteen () 17:18, 1 April 2021 (UTC)

In a related discussion [[Category:Recipients of the Bomber Command Clasp]] is up for deletion. 7&6=thirteen () 15:27, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
Relisted. Template:Did you know nominations/Alec Sutherland 7&6=thirteen () 19:47, 4 April 2021 (UTC)
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This seems to be a very popular thing famous people and others do constantly. Way too many Google news search results to sort through on my own. If anyone has found an article talking about this thing, please let me know. Dream Focus 00:05, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

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Are there flowers in your hair? Do you love it or hate it? Make my day! Andrew🐉(talk) 10:33, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

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This helping of vintage Americana needs a cherry on top to go with the nuts. Andrew🐉(talk) 21:50, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

Getting close to DOD. Hangs in the balance. 7&6=thirteen () 16:11, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Kept No consensus. Per the closer: "The result was no consensus. I don't see further discussion being likely to establish a consensus given the fundamental disagreement displayed here about whether or not current sources satisfy notability requirements." 7&6=thirteen () 09:35, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
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Professional wrestling in Pakistan? Newish competition. Needs sources. Would help if you read the relevant languages.\

AFD was closed as DELETE and was reopened. 7&6=thirteen () 12:43, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
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Revisiting the Falklands/Malvinas war. Article has been expanded. Question of notability, too? 7&6=thirteen () 14:57, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

Comment - user entitled to raise this here. But this content largely lifted from other articles in Wikipedia where the issue has been well covered. Mark83 (talk) 14:22, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
Relisted. Question of content, sourcing, significance and notability. 7&6=thirteen () 12:06, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
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Defunct Harley Davidson competitor motorcycle company. Question of notability, sourcing. Just relisted. 7&6=thirteen () 11:55, 25 April 2021 (UTC)

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I recently created an article for CBS news anchor Lana Zak. It was very quickly nominated for deletion. I would appreciate any help in seeking sources and improving the article. Thank you! Thriley (talk) 03:55, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

Hi Thriley, please add {{subst:rescue list|~~~~}} to the AfD discussion. Thank you, Beccaynr (talk) 04:20, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
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Commander of Indonesian submarine that just sank, and that appeared on main page under WP:ITN. WP:1E? WP:Notability 7&6=thirteen () 15:03, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

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I built this article from an existing redirect and added several reviews, as you can see in this version of the article, but the article was reverted to a redirect; can anyone help me find additional sources to help assert notability so that it can be restored? For the sake of argument, there are 248 other articles in Category:Video game expansion packs. 2601:243:1C80:6740:A107:F113:B09:97D5 (talk) 00:57, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Alec Sutherland

On 9 May 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Alec Sutherland, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Alec Sutherland was made a Member of the Order of the British Empire for his work in the sport of swimming? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Alec Sutherland. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Alec Sutherland), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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David Vetter (farmer)

The article for David Vetter (farmer) was recently nominated for deletion. He is a major figure in the organic agriculture movement. He and his father were some of the earliest practitioners of organic farming in the Corn Belt. He and his farm were the subject of a documentary film, Dreaming of a Vetter World, produced by Steve Buscemi, Jo Andres, and Robert Houston. Notability is clear in my opinion. I would appreciate any help in finding sourcing or improving the article in any way. Finding sourcing is a bit difficult as there is another notable David Vetter. Thank you, Thriley (talk) 18:11, 9 May 2021 (UTC)

St. Cecilia High School (Nebraska)

I saw that St. Cecilia High School (Nebraska) was nominated for deletion. I think it is a notable high school, but it lacks sourcing. I would appreciate any help in finding sourcing for it. Thank you, Thriley (talk) 01:05, 11 May 2021 (UTC)

I created this back in 2010 because so many Google news results show reliable sources covering their competition, including Popular Science. Alas it has not grown from a stub and is now set for a speedy deletion. If you can think of anything to add to the article, please do so. Dream Focus 16:21, 11 May 2021 (UTC)

Deleted at 17:17, rather quick despite it being disputed. I'm not entirely sure they are notable, but their awards are covered in multiple reliable sources. So whatever. Dream Focus 19:22, 11 May 2021 (UTC)

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U.S. Navy Commodore, commander of the U.S. Constitution. Needs sources. 10:22, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

Sources added. Article kept. -- GreenC 03:50, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
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Monty Python's theme was a Sousa tune which may ring a bell and that's just off the top of my head from the other side of the Atlantic. I expect American editors will be able to be do better but they seem remarkably absent. Who's going to climb the Rocky Steps? Andrew🐉(talk) 17:37, 14 May 2021 (UTC)

This has been at AfD three times before and was kept everytime. A good source for this is one of my favourite books – On the Psychology of Military Incompetence – which explains that the sort of personality which does well in peacetime – the obsessive martinet – copes poorly with the chaos and confusion of battle. There are some parallels with Wikipedia which is, by design, quick and dirty. Andrew🐉(talk) 09:12, 16 May 2021 (UTC)

  • Kept and No consensus Per the closer: "The result was no consensus. There are two opposing points of view each with valid arguments. The delete side thinks that all military engagements are a disaster at least for the losing side (or, in my view, for humanity generally, y'know), and that it is WP:OR to determine what a military disaster is. The keep side points to reliable sources that list things they call military disasters, which means that in this view no OR is necessary. We won't reconcile these points of view here, but I predict that the list is much more likely to survice a fifth AfD if it is cleaned up to limit itself to events reliably sourced as a "military disaster"."
So this article could still benefit from some TLC. 7&6=thirteen ()

Stub. Needs improvement. There are definitely books that deal with this. 7&6=thirteen () 13:59, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

Armageddon: Tactical Combat, 3000-500 BC and Patrol (board game) were both redirected as the result of a 2013 AFD. I moved both articles to DRAFT space for improvement, and we have found some good sources for each. We know that more reviews exist, if anyone can help us find them or any other WP:RS for these two games, and get them successfully out of AFC! :) BOZ (talk) 19:23, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

Geeze man long term dedication :) Links to drafts Draft:Patrol (board game) and Draft:Armageddon: Tactical Combat, 3000-500 BC - GreenC 03:02, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
You got it. ;) BOZ (talk) 03:35, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
Awesome, we got Patrol accepted at AFC, just need Armageddon to go through. :) BOZ (talk) 20:43, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
@BOZ: Here's the Moves #7 review.[5] How many more review refs do you need? StrayBolt (talk) 06:40, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
Awesome, that is great! I will add it. As many as you can find, although I think we have enough now to at least pass the GNG and AFC for Armageddon. :) BOZ (talk) 13:04, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
@BOZ: Chicago Tribune article on that issue, "The Game Room: The wargamers bimonthly bible"[6] Click on "Show 34 article text (OCR)" StrayBolt (talk) 17:22, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
Thanks! It's partly readable like that, but I will see what we can do with that. BOZ (talk) 17:41, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

First AFD was in 2011, second was in 2019, both times closed as redirect. At the time, no independent reliable sources were found for the character, but recently multiple sources have been written for him online as he is the subject of brand-new release Van Richten's Guide to Ravenloft, particularly this one and somewhat in this and this, and also in this one older review that was not found during the AFD. Since the book was just released today there may be additional reviews and sources appearing in the near future, as there are many outlets that might not have pre-release access to prepare an early or same-day review. BOZ (talk) 20:38, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

Deletion review seems like the proper place for this, there is no current AfD and the relevant link is currently a redirect i.e. there is no article to "rescue". -Indy beetle (talk) 04:50, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
A resurrection is definitely a rescue, in fact it may be the ultimate rescue - we can find the sources and bring it back. I've got a few already, let's see what else we can find! BOZ (talk) 12:13, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
@BOZ: Ok, sure, but what I'm saying this is is not the proper forum for that. ARS can't help you here, since it's meant to intervene articles at AfD. Take your sources or a draft to Wikipedia:Deletion review so some admins can actually assist you. -Indy beetle (talk) 20:16, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
Well, the main ARS page actually literally says that ARS also helps with things like PROD and it even has a whole section for Drafts at Wikipedia:Article Rescue Squadron#Rescuing drafts, so if I move this to drafts instead will you rethink the "go somewhere else if it's not AFD" position? DRV won't help, because they only review to see if the original close was correct, and they will look at this one and say it was correct (I know this because I have tried that before). Unfortunately, and I really wish there was, but Wikipedia does not have a "we'll help bring back your deleted/redirected article if you find the sources to prove notability" function and people certainly can make it harder to do so than it needs to be. About the only thing I know that does work is to move it to drafts and have an AFC reviewer look at it, as it did in the section above this one. BOZ (talk) 20:40, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

U.S. Civil War veteran, who was a male impostor to do it. 7&6=thirteen () 19:49, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

Maybe this blog[7] can be used as a ref or starting point, or the book. StrayBolt (talk) 21:35, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

Just relisted. Steel and wood Roller coasters. 7&6=thirteen () 17:54, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

  • Kept Per the closer: "The result was keep. I'm going with keep right now. Here is what I suggest:

1. Improve article OR 2. Propose a merger OR 3. Purpose a redirect On the appropriate page. 7&6=thirteen () 10:36, 2 June 2021 (UTC)