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The Bugle: Issue LXXI, February 2012

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Uncategorized articles

To be perfectly honest, I have a really difficult time understanding why anybody on Wikipedia wouldn't understand why the categorization project is important: put simply, at least in principle our articles have to be categorized so that readers and editors can find them because they're placed in their proper context alongside other related articles; without that, the only way that either a reader or an editor can know that an article exists is to happen across a text link in a related article.

I acknowledge that this particular page was a bit of a edge case, since there was no pressing need for anybody but an editor who happened to be working on deletions to actually see it — however, it does sometimes take several days for an article that's been tagged for speedy deletion to actually get deleted, not to mention that there are any number of other reasons why a page might be technically uncategorizable for days or even weeks at a time, or why people might think that "their" article is somehow different from others and shouldn't have to follow the same rules as all of the others. The thing is that if you look at the big picture, the categorization project can't do its job properly if there are pages on the list that we have to ignore and not deal with for days upon days at a time. If the tool isn't clean, then it's not the project's job to just accept or work around the dirty parts — we have to clean it, because it has to be clean. It's really that simple.

And just for the record, when I first started working with the uncategorized articles list, there were almost 50,000 uncategorized articles — and because approximately 200 new uncategorized articles get created every day, clearing the list took almost six months of setting aside two or three hours every single day to do nothing but sit in front of my computer tagging one article after another (which, I'm sure you can imagine, is about the single most boring thing I've ever done with my time — but it had to get done and nobody else was doing it.) And it's not just new articles, either, as many existing articles become uncategorized through user error (e.g. somebody adding HTML coding to an article and then failing to close the tags properly), vandalism (e.g. somebody replacing Category:Museums in Ohio with Category:My math teacher is a fat cow!!!!1!), poorly formatted edits (e.g. somebody adding a new item to a disambiguation page, but doing so in a way that erases the {{dab}} tag) and other assorted things that should have, but didn't, get caught by new edit patrol or a vandalism bot. And if you do the math, 200 articles per day means that it takes less than a week for the list to get back over 1,000 articles again, and less than a month to get over 5,000.

All of which is why the list has to be monitored and cleared to zero, with no exceptions for any reason whatsoever, at least twice a week. Ideally, it would happen every single day, but there aren't enough people working on it and even I'm not willing to make that my daily priority. Bearcat (talk) 17:23, 21 February 2012 (UTC)


Comment on ANI

While I appreciate your comment there, I wonder why you stressed "both" in it. I responded just once, when my opponents attacks there continued to go on, and became even more unreasonable. But I apologize, I didn't know that would be frowned upon. W\|/haledad (Talk to me) 21:30, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

You are right, using "both" might not have been fair in this case. Yoenit (talk) 21:42, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

Your messages and signature

You don't like fragmented discussions, huh? Well neither do I. That is why User talk:Walex03#Your userpage and personal information had messages posted by me there. However, you have not responded in a few weeks so I got nervous. After a little while I decided to talk to you on your talk page about it and I hoped you could see me here and please respond to this and the previous message on my talk page.

What is much more important is that I noticed in your signature there is no link to your userpage, but your username is bold. However that was on my talk page, not your user page, so it should've been formatted as a link. Changing your signature would be helpful because WP:SIG says it should link to at least your user and talk page, and many include their contributions page.

That will be all.

Walex03 (talk) 20:04, 4 March 2012 (UTC)

Hi, you seem a bit upset. My apologies if I have given offensive. I missed the response you were talking about, so I will respond to it now. With regards to the signature, you are wrong. wp:SIG (or to be more precise, WP:SIGLINK) specifies a signature must contain at least one link to your user page, user talk page or contributions page, not two or three links. Also, my userpage (user:Yoenit) is nothing more than a redirect back to my user talkpage, so there is no advantage to linking it. Yoenit (talk) 22:12, 4 March 2012 (UTC)

My apologies if I have given offensive, too. I apologize for the whole sig issue. And I can see your point. I do not mainly like your user page being a redirect to your talk page, I'm just saying, that's why I don't, but your user page is yours to screw around with, so I have no objections.

Walex03 (phone?) (talk) 02:15, 7 March 2012 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue LXXII, March 2012

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Help us develop better software!

Thanks to all of you for commenting on the NOINDEX RfC :). It's always great to be able to field questions like these to the community; it's genuinely the highlight of my work! The NOINDEX idea sprung from our New Page Triage discussion; we're developing a new patrolling interface for new articles, and we want your input like never before :). So if you haven't already seen it, please go there, take a look at the screenshots and mockups and ideas, and add any comments or suggestions you might have to the talkpage. Thanks! Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 16:47, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

Civility

Your edit summary for this change, Which moron put such a large graph at the top of the page? is not appropriate. Please comment on content, not contributors; also, edit summaries should explain what you are doing and why. Also see WP:CIVIL, WP:COLLAB, and WP:WIKIQUETTE. —EncMstr (talk) 21:34, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

Really? Well, if it makes you happy. Next time try including a link to wp:NPA as well, you are after quoting part of the policy. Yoenit (talk) 22:33, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue LXXIII, April 2012

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The Bugle: Issue LXXIV, May 2012

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A barnstar for you!

The Brilliant Idea Barnstar
Using the westeros.org Concordance for the sourcing of the World of A Song of Ice and Fire article was an excellent suggestion.[1] Thank you. – sgeureka tc 09:46, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

GOCE July 2012 Copy Edit Drive

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Credo Reference Update & Survey (your opinion requested)

Credo Reference, who generously donated 400 free Credo 250 research accounts to Wikipedia editors over the past two years, has offered to expand the program to include 100 additional reference resources. Credo wants Wikipedia editors to select which resources they want most. So, we put together a quick survey to do that:

It also asks some basic questions about what you like about the Credo program and what you might want to improve.

At this time only the initial 400 editors have accounts, but even if you do not have an account, you still might want to weigh in on which resources would be most valuable for the community (for example, through WikiProject Resource Exchange).

Also, if you have an account but no longer want to use it, please leave me a note so another editor can take your spot.

If you have any other questions or comments, drop by my talk page or email me at wikiocaasi@yahoo.com. Cheers! Ocaasi t | c 17:38, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

criteria for speedy deletion revert

The point of adding the information that wikipedia uses the dictionary definitions of importance and significance is important information for readers of that article. Putting that information in the talk page is pointless.TeeTylerToe (talk) 18:48, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

What I meant that you should discuss your proposed change on the talkpage and get consensus there before implementing it. This is standard editing practice for all policy pages. Make a proposal there why you believe this line is necessary and see if other people agree with you. I personally think the comment is pointless, as no objective definition for important exists. Yoenit (talk) 19:32, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
That's the point. The important or significant speedy deletion criteria exists, and the only definition for those terms that can be used is the dictionary definition. Without the sentence, it's ambiguous as to whether the speedy deletion criteria uses the dictionary definition. Without the sentence, the criteria is both subjective, and ambiguous. Adding the sentence removes that ambiguity. It's like the difference between a speed limit sign that says "you can't go 'fast'", and a speed limit sign that says "you can't go 'fast', and in this usage, we're using the dictionary definition of fast, which is subjective'", it confirms the non-existence of any solid definition.TeeTylerToe (talk) 20:07, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue LXXVI, July 2012

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The Bugle: Issue LXXVII, August 2012

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Military history coordinator election

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The Bugle: Issue LXXVIII, September 2012

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The Bugle: Issue LXXIX, October 2012

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The Bugle: Issue LXXX, November 2012

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Category Freemasons Proposed Deletion

Hi, as you were a contributor to a previous DRV on the Freemasons category there is another deletion discussion on this. JASpencer (talk) 16:52, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue LXXXI, December 2012

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Talkback

Hello, Yoenit. You have new messages at Talk:List of A Song of Ice and Fire characters.
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The Bugle: Issue LXXXII, January 2013

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The Bugle: Issue LXXXIII, February 2013

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USS Indiana

Nice work with this article! It is currently on the main page in "On this day". :-) Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 20:09, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue LXXXIV, March 2013

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The Bugle: Issue LXXXV, April 2013

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WikiProject Military history coordinator election

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Titan's Cross nomination

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Nomination of Timeline of the 2001 anthrax attacks for deletion

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WikiProject Military history coordinator election

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Other primary schools in Dudley and Sedgley listed at Redirects for discussion

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WikiProject Military history coordinator election

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User group for Military Historians

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April 2021 WikiProject Military History Reviewing Drive

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TFA for USS Indiana (BB-1)

I have nominated USS Indiana (BB-1) to be today's featured article on Feb. 28. As the article's FAC nominator, you are invited to this discussion and can participate by clicking here. Z1720 (talk) 16:33, 17 December 2022 (UTC)

USS Indiana (BB-1) scheduled for TFA

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TFA

Thank you today for USS Indiana (BB-1), introduced (in 2010): "An interesting little article on the United States first "real" battleship"! -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:25, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

TFA

Thank you today for USS Massachusetts (BB-2), introduced (in 2010): "I am nominating this for featured article because I am attempting to create a featured topic about the US first battleship class. Massachusetts was the US's second "real" battleship and received neither the attention of USS Indiana (BB-1), nor the glory of USS Oregon (BB-3), making her probably most notable for her bad luck."! - We miss you. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:31, 10 June 2023 (UTC)

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