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Yiddish in the Netherlands, English in Israel

Hi Ynhockey,

Ethnologue has the following entry for the Netherlands:

National or official languages: Dutch, Achterhoeks, Drents, Western Frisian, Gronings, Limburgisch, Sinte Romani, Vlax Romani, Sallands, Stellingwerfs, Twents, Veluws, Western Yiddish.

and the following for Israel:

National or official languages: Hebrew, Standard Arabic, English.

Don't have any other good source, but this is variously reported elsewhere, such as

Modern Hebrew became an official language in British Palestine in 1921. Today, it is the dominant official language of the State of Israel, along with Arabic and English, and remains the liturgical language of Jews worldwide. (Apparently a US gov site)

kwami 00:48, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

Hebrew vowel edit question

Hi! I noticed your Hebrew edit but I don’t understand. What is the difference between the /u/ in soup and the /u/ in room?—Gniw (Wing) 00:37, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

Koga-ryu

Hi! Thanks for your reply. I notice that you are ja-2. Do you want to take a look at Koga-ryu/rough and fix it up a bit? I tried to fix it up but I am only ja-1 and cannot understand some of the sentences. But it's AfD’d so I guess don’t spend too much time if you decide to try.—Gniw (Wing) 02:07, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

Hi! Thanks for your edit. I'm happy to announce that the article is no longer AfD! I wonder if you could take a look at paragraphs 2 and 4 in the History section too!—Gniw (Wing) 05:12, 30 October 2005 (UTC)

Hi! I just want to let you know that I've changed Kan'onji back to Kannonji because it's the pronunciation given by the ja article on 観音寺城. I've also changed the word "town" back to "castle" (it was originally translated "castle" before I looked at it) because after reading the article on I found that I was wrong.—Gniw (Wing) 16:14, 30 October 2005 (UTC)

I see that you have started to edit this page, and I wish you luck. Please check the Talk-page for what happened to this article earlier: basically user Zeq copied a lot of material into the article, then Palmiro and I tried to edit it. That was not easy. I needed a looong break after Zeq reversed my edit of "Population and Population growth" from this: [1] to this:[2]. Note that even "my" version had double inf., but it was inf. that was contradictary. All the inf. was copied into the article by Zeq. He has never made clear whether pop. growth is 3.4 or 3.6. Regards, Huldra 06:29, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

Thank you for your reply. I have no problem with using numbers from CBS; you are probably quite correct in saying that they are the ultimate authority for these statistics. What I do have a problem with is when we have exactly the same sentences 3-4 times in the same article or when there is contradictary information. I think the objections raised by Palmiro 17:06, 19 October on the Talk page nicely sums it up; take a look. Regards, Huldra 19:40, 4 November 2005 (UTC)
I'm intrigued by your statement in an edit summary that not all Bedouins are Muslims and perhaps most are not. Can you point to any decent on-line info. in this regard? I am pretty certain that, whatever about traditional beliefs and custom (`urf) the vast majority if not all Bedouin in Palestine and neighbouring countries consider themselves Muslims. Palmiro | Talk 15:19, 7 November 2005 (UTC)

Please take a look

Hi Ynhockey, I notice you edit in Israel/Palestine related articles and wonder whether you might take a look at Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/Ramallite. Ramallite is an editor who has broad support from across the spectrum of POVs on these topics, though the RFA has encountered some opposition, and the candidacy is a close one at the moment. I invite you to please judge for yourself his merits and consider voting. Thanks, --MPerel ( talk | contrib) 09:22, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

I can only second her request, regards, Huldra 19:44, 4 November 2005 (UTC)
Thank you for your response on my talk page, and especially for taking the time to look into the matter. You mentioned it's "hard to believe he's truly capable of shedding all POV". I only wish to add that none of us actually need to completely shed our POV to write at WP, we just need to be reasonable and cooperative enough to work with others so that all views can be presented in a NPOV way. Meanwhile, I do appreciate and respect your perspective. --MPerel ( talk | contrib) 20:45, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

Hey thanks for making a closer review of Ramallite's edit history and casting a vote : ) By the way, I saw you mention on your user page that you intend to venture more into articles on the Arab-Israeli conflict. I strongly encourage you to do so. I think people who live in the situation have unique and knowledgeable input to offer, and if we could get several cool-headed editors representing different perspectives on the situation, we could greatly improve these articles. --MPerel ( talk | contrib) 08:16, 7 November 2005 (UTC)

Your assertions

You have made few assrtions such as : "not all bedouins are muslim, i'd say most are not; each tribe has their own beliefs and traditions, although some are muslim" which show complete lack of knowledge about the bedouins. These are not "tribes" these are Hamula (extended family or a group that has a common shiech) as well other assertions such "Israeli arabs don't see them self as Palestinians" (while text in same article say that some of them do)

My point: You are making factual errors based on Original research. This will not work here. If you want to make a claim, please find a source for it. Otherwise, I will revert your edits which are done out of complete ignoranceto the subject matter. Zeq 16:33, 7 November 2005 (UTC)

You can "I can say without a shadow of a doubt" what ever that you want. But for Wikipedia you need proof, relevent proof. above comment remain in effect. Zeq 16:57, 7 November 2005 (UTC)

Shevah Mofet

No i didn't go to the school, and no I didn't delete it because I thought it was too POV, actually I thought it was kinda written as I joke so was not necessary to the article.- Moshe Constantine Hassan Al-Silverburg 22:27, 8 November 2005 (UTC)

I guess I misunderstood, feel free to revert my edit, although maybe instead you can write something like- "There is still no evidence that they have modified the school menu in order to address the criticisms." By the way out of curiosity where in Israel do you live?- Moshe Constantine Hassan Al-Silverburg 04:14, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

Thank you

I just wanted to thank you for your support of my RfA which finally passed! I'm sorry you were offended by my user page, I didn't realize you hated Cyprus that much :) Anyway, thanks again! Ramallite (talk) 04:37, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

Crazy changes by Gilgamesh

Unfortunately, User:Gilgamesh is now imposing his own views by changing the transliterated Hebrew names of articles with redirects to unreadable Hebrew names and fonts, as if his criteria are the only ones to reckon with, when there are in fact several. My computer, as I am sure many others' as well, does not pick up his type of fonts, and thus he is messing up articles such as Safed, Hadera, Holon, Afula, Arad, Israel and many others defacing them and making them unreadable on the web. He is going to DESTROY the normal usage of Wikipedia's Hebrew transliterations to satisfy his own needs without there being any consensus. Common usages are being thrown out in favor of obscure and pedantic academic usages familiar to only a handful of unkown academics. He should be called upon to stop BEFORE he rushes to do further damage without any consensus being reached. All his changes should therefore be reverted. See all his recent contributions via: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Gilgamesh I thank you for your interest, and urge all readers here to act. IZAK 04:07, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

Hebrew naming conventions

At the present time there is a serious discussion taking place, aiming at some consensus that will result in "official" Wikipedia guidelines about how Hebrew should be used and written in Wikipedia articles. Because of your past or ongoing interest in these type of articles with Hebrew words in them, your attention is called to Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Hebrew) [3] TO MAKE YOUR VIEWS KNOWN AND TO ADD TO THE DISCUSSION BEFORE THE "DOORS ARE SHUT" PLEASE SEE THE RELATED DISCUSSION PAGE AT Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (Hebrew) [4] Thank you! IZAK 04:07, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

Druze

Hi

I've taken some quotes from an article on the Druze and put them here. If you want to use some of them to add to the info on the Israeli Arab page please do (no doubt if I do it'll only be reverted on sight by the bewildered and bewildering Zeq). There's a full citation given.

Obviously the quotes don't do justice to the article, which is quite an interesting one about reform and change in Druze society in Syria, Lebanon and Israel, focussing on Lebanon. I've just taken out the bits that deal with Israel, not including stuff about the religious structures and controversy over them. Palmiro | Talk 23:02, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

Sorry. I listed the source at the end, it's
Schenk, Bernadette "Druze Identity in the Middle East", in Salibi, Kamal, ed, The Druze: Realities and Perceptions, London, Druze Heritage Foundation, 2005
i.e. an article (or paper, or chapter, or whatever) in an edited volume (hence pp87 and 88). Hope that's clearer. Unfortunately, none of the other chapters really include anything particularly useful for the Druze in your country. Palmiro | Talk 23:37, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
I hope I haven't got you into trouble here. I seem to be rather unpopular at the moment, in the stocks in fact so to speak... See my note on the talk page esp. about contradictory source I hadn't noticed before on the Druze article. Palmiro | Talk 01:58, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

I'd strongly encourage you to edit Israeli Arab, as you made quite a good job of making sense of the incoherent ramblings that appeared on it at an earlier stage. I'm very busy at the moment, but in the next couple of days will try and put up on the talk page a list of possible sources from the bibliography of the two books I used and from one other book that I have - about the Balad party - that is itself way too partisan to use as a source. You might be able to find some of these books in a public library or something if you're interested. It's quite hard to find useful stuff here; and in English thre's pretty much nothing. Palmiro | Talk 16:36, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

Der Judenstaat

Hi Ynhockey: Please add to the stub Der Judenstaat (מדינת היהודים), if you are able to. Or, perhaps you know of some editors who can beef up the article. Thanks. IZAK 09:25, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

Hi Ynhockey, I've requested a formal move of Maalot-Tarshikha to Ma'alot-Tarshiha. Please vote, so that we can get an administrator to move it. Izehar 11:59, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

Category:Cities with significant Arab Israeli populations

Hi Yn: Please see the Vote for Deletion (vfd) for Wikipedia:Categories for deletion/Log/2005 December 4#Category:Cities with significant Arab Israeli populations. Thank you. IZAK 12:51, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

vote

Hi, there's a vote on at Talk:Mormon views about Mormonism and Judaism#Name change. People want to move the article that describes the Mormon views on Judaims to "Mormonism and Judaism". Just thought you should know. Izehar (talk) 00:23, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

Rejection of Tanakh

Hi Yn: Please see and vote at Wikipedia:Categories for deletion/Log/2005 December 12#Category:Hebrew Bible where it is beeing suggested that the word "Tanakh" is "not neutral", and I am trying to explain to them that it is in keeping with NPOV to convey the way Judaism uses certain terms to describe the Hebrew Bible/Tanakh. Thanks. IZAK 15:41, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

Re: POV in District of Acre

I'll se what I can do (i.e. get him blocked for a 3RRvio) ;-) Izehar (talk) 10:53, 16 December 2005 (UTC)



Happy Hannukah from a fellow IDF-serving Anime-enthusiastic Wikipedian! --AceMyth 07:46, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

COTW Project

You voted for Lee Smith (baseball), this week's Collaboration of the week. Please come and help it become a featured-standard article. -- King of Hearts | (talk) 22:37, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

COTW Project

You voted for Invasion, this week's Collaboration of the week. Please come and help it become a featured-standard article. -- King of Hearts | (talk) 18:28, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

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Bleach

Hey, you reversed most of my changes I made to the bleach Shinigami page without a real reason (reason cited was copyedit). Please detail your reasoning, for reversing these changes. Thanks in advance. Hobbeslover 04:21, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

Hey, thanks for the response. Let me try to respond to some of your concerns. And I'm going to steal your nifty HTML quote boxes as well :D

Speculative info, they've so far been the most prominent because we haven't really been exposed to the entire Soul Society. Moreover, we know for sure that many nobles who aren't shinigami captains are at an equal or higher status. It could be changed to something like 'Captains are at a high position on the shinigami social ladder, although other corps' leaders and nobles can be of equal or higher status'.

I'll agree that it is speculative on the prominent captains part. However, at the same time, they are prominent BECAUSE they are the only ones shown at this point in the series, if you get what I am trying to say. We don't really know for sure that other nobles are at a HIGHER status than captains. The only people that touch the captains in status are the 46 members and other corp leaders member. I agree with the first part of the proposed sentence, but maybe the second part should be something closer to "of similar status"?

What does knowing bankai have to do with prominence or reverence? Maybe that part should be moved to a new paragraph. A different sentence at the very least.

Okay, I will agree there.

The paragraph as a whole isn't that important when aiming to explain what a Gotei 13 captain is.

I highly disgree here. All the current paragraph does is try to reconcile the differences between a real army Captain/Major/Colonel/General to a bleach captain. I agree that it IS an interesting organization scheme that Soul Society possesses, but the ENTIRE PARAGRAPH is trying to relate the two with no other content, is in my opinion, a bit much. It is an over-analyzation of one small aspect of a bleach captain; even if the former paragraph was kept in its entirety, more needs to be explained about a captain's power and what they DO. Their prominence is an important part of this. You can't tell me that seeing the 13 captains assembled for the first time or Ichimaru decimating Jidanbou or the incredible reiatsu of a captain isn't impressive. They have a huge amount of respect/power and this needs to be reflected.

Also speculative info, although so far we've seen most captains use different tactics (as opposed to lieutenants like Renji who just fight or use demon arts), there is no proof that to be a captain you need to be skilled at demon arts, flash steps, battle tactics, etc. Zaraki, Tōsen and Komamura for instance have so far not demonstrated little or no knowledge of these (presumably they know flash steps for speed). However, this could probably be changed to something like 'most captains have shown to be adept at demon arts, flash steps, battle tactics and more, creating a huge power gap between them and lieutenants.' The last sentence is redundant and purely speculative. And finally, there's the issue that you seem to write quickly, hoping that others will correct the terminology or spelling (e.g. kidou -> kidō or demon arts; vice-captain -> lieutenant). No offense meant of course. But you should probably put more effort into writing stuff like this.

Okay, I was speaking in general / or the general trend that has been shown thus far. I will edit this. As for the vice-captain thing, I believe I was being accurate (Ichigo defeated three vice-captains without using his zanpakutou), but I will agree that it is redundant so I will remove it.

As for my writing style, I don't think I am writing too quickly. The kidou is purely my own preference, I just don't like the ō. I try to conform to the spelling, but occasionally a kidou or zanpakutou will slip in. I will also use the "ou" if I am writing for convenience, like I am now. Vice-captain -> lieutenant is NOT a sloppy thing. You must understand that there is a lot of personal preference involved in this. Even the article itself says that vice-captain is the most popularly used term. I hardly see how using personal preferences can account for being sloppy edits or not using enough effort.

Anyway, thanks for the suggestions. I will go edit some of the article implementing some of your suggestions, and you can correct what you feel is incorrect at a later date. Hobbeslover 05:25, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

New Israel stub

Shabbat Shalom Yan, I was alerted to the new Israel stub icon, which was changed from a flag of Israel to a map of Israel/Palestine with a flag inside it. It appears you created it, and I was just wondering what your thoughts are regarding the neutrality of including such an icon, which includes the West Bank and Gaza Strip, on a neutral encyclopedia (regardless of our own beliefs, of course). Thanks. Ramallite (talk) 14:20, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

I didn't realize somebody had already taken it out. This whole map thing will be a bit controversial (for both sides): including the Palestinian territories will upset pro-peace editors and not including them will upset pro-occupation editors. So I really don't know what to say... let me know when you have the final map ready... maybe you can put it to use in areas other than stubs, because a lot of articles that have the Israel geo-stub also have the Palestine geo-stub as well.... I don't know, whatever works.....Thanks Ramallite (talk) 14:34, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
I actually don't care much about it myself (on a personal level), but I wrote you initially to ask whether you thought it was neutral to have a map with a flag in it. My only concern is that any way you draw a map with a flag in it, it will be regarded as POV by either party (if you include the West Bank, it's POV because WP is recognizing it as part of Israel, and if you don't include it, then it's POV because WP has already defined Israel's borders). Remember you are representing Wikipedia here. So if you are not worried about that, you can try the current version and see what happens. If it flies, so be it. I'm just pointing out that there are potential problems inherent is the usage of a map. Ramallite (talk) 16:58, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

Soul Society

Could you cite where in the manga/anime it is referred to as "Spirit World" ? —Tokek 11:45, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

Could you cite a fansub group that officially calls it "Spirit World"? —Tokek 20:25, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

Re: Soul Society

Google search comparison reveals more about usage:

  • Bleach "soul society" — 113,000 hits
  • Bleach "spirit world" — 933 hits (less than 1% by comparison)

Without "Bleach", "spirit world" occurs more (1,630,000 vs. 238,000) since it's an outside term while "Soul Society" is Bleach jargon. "Spirit world" only describes Soul Society, like "cool sword" only describes zanpakuto. Maybe I'm biased against promoting obscure neologisms. —Tokek 17:24, 10 February 2006 (UTC) (talk)

Anime/Manga barnstar

Okay, added some extra thoughts to it. Hope this will spur discussion of the idea. ^_^--み使い Mitsukai 20:12, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

Invasion

I just want to let you know that Invasion which you voted for as a COTW is now being considered for a featured article. Leave your input at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Invasion. RENTAFOR LET? 03:53, 12 February 2006 (UTC)


Hie

Hello Ynhockey, I asked about the actual situation in israel beacaus eof I'll go to during 6 month from begginning of september and people i've contacted hav not answer me. Do you think it'a about the situation? Do Israel still accept foreign people with the hamas as Palestinien Authorities? Thanks to you; Shalom jonathaneo

So,i asked you ot know if with the actial toruble, foreigners were also acceptin. I'll not go in ISrael like tourist but to work in kibbutz...thanks for your answer.

noblesse

Can you provide a source to back up your claim that the army hands out Noblesse cigarettes on Israeli bases or do you mean sells, like all other brands? --Shuki 21:34, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, I guess I didn't really suspect you to provide a source, the explanation was fine. I apologize, I guess that sometimes the 'wikislang' just rolls off the tongue too easily. Some admin who doesn't feel as if s/he needs to answer messages on thier talk page was also pissing me off. Sorry. Now, if we're already enjoying a smoke, then I want to second your gripe with the hewiki. I tried to contribute the little that I can, but my disambiguation pages were deleted, my serious attempts at NPOV were rv, and I felt that there were 2-4 super-admins that have dedicate their life/kidnapped the hewiki and rv entire edits within seconds if they simply don't like the writing of one word or sentence. It is tremendously discouraging and IMO prevents other regular editors from participating in the overall project. I know I have a lot to contribute there too, but frankly, could not be bothered for that hassle. They certainly harm a lot of motivation. There just doesn't seem to be any room for a small-time admin who isn't aware of all the discussions. Anyway, let them go to the kibinimat ;-) I relegated myself to merely add the links to the english articles I create or find. --Shuki 10:23, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

toda

http://www.ynet.co.il/articles/0,7340,L-3219414,00.html

Pro-Israeli sources

The situation is complex, not as simple as Zero would like you to believe. Where would you like me to comment? Jayjg (talk) 20:28, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

The following was cut and pasted from User:Ynhockey:

Hey thanks for the help.--The Billygoat

 + (p.s. sorry i didn't know where else to put this)

"BarnSakura" draft image, round 2

Second draft is up now.--み使い Mitsukai 23:12, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

thank you

kind of unexpected. I never thought of doing this work to get one :">

--Shuki 17:36, 5 March 2006 (UTC)


Hey, thanks for your help.-The Billygoat

capitalizations

Hi, I think the work you are doing is not proper. Only proper nouns are capitalized and 'local councils' and 'regional councils' are not proper nouns unless part of the name of the specific council, "Gezer Regional Council". There are several regional councils in the Negev. - not capitalized. Why didn't you capitalize the word city? Because it's not right. --Shuki 20:57, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

No problem --Shuki 21:06, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
you work fast! --Shuki 21:26, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

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FYI

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Israel&diff=next&oldid=42860546

btw, the fact that you are in the IDF in MP and have friends in Checkpoints disqualify you from editing WP (just kidding)

Zeq 08:57, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Hey Ynhockey, I thought you might like to know of this page. I feel in its current form it is almost entirely devoted to criticism of the organization. Much of the criticism is written in a very underhanded and shrewd method, for example, in its short "Supporters" section here is a quote by a congressman: "AIPAC plays valuable roles in expanding the pro-Israel communities in the United States, and in putting them in touch with those who influence the direction of American foreign policy". This excerpt fits in with what appears to be the writer's goal of showing that the group has undue influence and is basically a way for Israel to gain control of America's Mid East foreign Policy by proxy. Despite all of this the page's common editors are determined to bully any new editor who has the audacity to "censor" their work.- Moshe Constantine Hassan Al-Silverburg | Talk 10:49, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks- Moshe Constantine Hassan Al-Silverburg | Talk 16:53, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

watch

Thanks for your participation in editing this complex subject.

What is now missing is the NPOV of the issue of Human Rights. The organization present itself as Human rights and against the exisrence of checkpoint.
While the behaviour of soldiers in the checkpoints indeed need to be fixed, the actual existence of the checkpoints ids to protect human Rights of Israelis (to prevent suicide bombers from reaching israel) - this secind part is not in the 1st paragrph reverted by Zero, Ian and Palmiro) and need to be added again. Zeq 11:24, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

Opinion on "checkpoints"

Hi Yan,

In general opinion on checkpoints should be in a different article but there is an excpetion.

Machosm Watch wants the checkpoints removed. Machsom watch wants that until they are removed the human rights of the Palestinians are honored, which according to them is to just let anyone pass unhindred.

This ignore the need for the checkpoints and that is why view on the exitence of the checkpoints should go into the article: To Balance watch view that only palestinians desreve human rights. People of tel-Aviv and Petach Tikva alos derve to live in peace and the checkpoints on Highway 5 (before Rosh haayin) protect them. This view must get into the article. You know that if it was not for this checkpoint or the one near kalklia on highway 57 anyone from the west bank could just drive into israel. As for the nablus checkpoints (Hwara, Beit Furik, Beit Iba) this is a different issue (I agree with watch that those checkpoints should be dismentlled) Zeq 18:27, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

Thank you. please see my suggestion on talk page. Zeq 18:35, 11 March 2006 (UTC)


Ikkaku Profile

I re-read chapter 205 today, and it still looks to me that the seemingly evaporating substance is actually filling in the crest.

And no prob about the editing thing. I didn't even look to see what was edited, so i'll be more aware next time. -- Makaio 22:56, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

recent changes

Hi, a few issues: Your change from "Samarian region of West Bank" to "West Bank region of Samaria" sounds odd. Samaria is "in" the West Bank. Likewise, it doesn't sound right to say the British region of the Falklands since the 2nd noun is entirely a part of the 1st. It would be okay if you were to talk about the Argentinian region of the Andes, because that territory crosses borders. Otherwise, the world has no other way to describe the north west bank and the south west bank, except by Samaria and Judea.

The other thing was the inconsistant use of Ch for Chaim, yet single H for Hotze Shomron. Is there a consensus on how to spell the 'chet' in English? It seems that the 'ch' is the most common, but maybe that's a bad assumption? --Shuki 23:08, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

Don't translate literally into Hebrew from English or vice versa. The syntax is not the same. In any case, you 'could' say the eizor shomroni... but in Hebrew, it just sounds too much. If you just say the shomron, that is usually fine.
With POV, we have to deal with this 'logical' term called West Bank which the world has adopted even though there is no Arab translation, and no one here on wiki at aleast has been able to bring one forward. --Shuki 23:36, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
Nice job starting Immanuel (town). Please don't forget to add new Israel articles to Portal:Israel/New article announcements. --Shuki 21:50, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

Good job on the Efrat disambiguation. I just clarified that it isn't in the Judean Desert, which is a separate region from Judea (הר חברון) or the Judean Lowlands for that matter (שפלת יהודה), although the first two do link to the same article. Perhaps there should be a seperate article for the Desert... Also, the Efrat/a naming is a longstanding argument between the residents/municipality and the Interior Ministry (פנים) [which expresses itself in the oddity that highway signs say Efrata, but internal signs say Efrat]. Good luck on your service. Tewfik 05:42, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

I saw that you change to order of interwiki links on one page (BLEACH). I don't know if there is any official policy on the order but from what I have seen most articles list them by the order of the native names (see for example our George W. Bush). This is also how all interwiki bots that I have seen in work do (see for example this edit by YurikBot). Just informing you so that you don't make any useless moving around of interwiki links just to get them reverted. Jeltz talk 13:43, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

Just clarifying something. I havn't rverted any change of order of interwiki links and don't intend to. I'm interested in this because I want to know what orderd they should be put in when I add them myself. From what I have seen almost every page order them by the native names. Jeltz talk 11:37, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
And the reason for that there are more ordered by the native names could be the bots so it might not prove anything. Jeltz talk 11:47, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

"better" writing and Original research

Hi Yan,

Do you have the source I used infront of you ?

It is possible and I agree that your version is a better one (from english stand point) but it is no longer what the source was saying. He did not speak of "less nargenelized" nor did he explain about Muslims in Europe being "poor immigrants" (which I don't even know if true - could be but in the article "Israli Arab" there is no room for that discussion) - We need to stick to the source and this is what I did - translation and summary not my own thoughts.

Now, this section has turn into Original research which can not remain this way. we need to stick to the source and of course a better translation is welcome as long as it still what the source was saying and has nothing original.

Best, Zeq

Got your note. As far as I understand the policy it require 0% OR. (not 10%, not 5%, not 1%) As for my english I am sure it can be improved but to say that it is not understandable is to streach things a bit too far. Best, Zeq 23:08, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

Rabbi Ovadia Yosef

I hope that Hebrew is OK, if not I apologize, and please notify me. הציטוט שכביכול מרן אמר "שמי שלא מצביע ש"ס הולך לגיהנום", הוא ציטוט שאכן הופיע בסוף השבוע שעבר בעיתון "בקהילה" אבל בבית הרב הכחישו זאת, (ונטיית לבי היא עם בית הרב, מתוך הכרות עם סגנונו של מרן). בכל מקרה סבור אני שמוטב היה אם תוסיף בערך ש"עפי"י הטענה" הרב הוסיף שמי שלא יצביע וכו' ואולי גם תוסיף שמבית הרב הכחישו זאת. בכל מקרה, אהבתי את העריכה שלך ואכן זה פרט רלוונטי להנהגות הרב ותוכן דרשותיו ומסוגנן בסגנון אידיאלי לחלוטין, לעניות דעתי.Zadil 23:08, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

Well done (the correction). Thank you and a good night. Zadil 23:36, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

Hetz

What would be proper translation of the name Hetz Electionworld = Wilfried (talk 11:05, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

Your aggressive deletion of sources

You have alerted a veritable posse of editors to look at this new article. Great! BUT please do not delete citations. Please leave those there for the time-being, as they all support the claim that Liberman supports transfer of Arabs (forced or otherwise). Lokiloki 11:25, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

Transference

I realize that English is not your native tongue, so please look up the word "transference". It does not mean "forced transfer" as you imply. In fact, the definition of transfer: "1 a : to convey from one person, place, or situation to another" Lokiloki 11:32, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know. Jayjg (talk) 17:35, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

IDF

Hi, hope you know something about IDF, perhaps you know the answer to my question on Talk:Operation Dekel? If it is as I suspect (that is: Sheva' Brigade = 7th Brigade), then I suggest we just make a Sheva' Brigade file with: #REDIRECT 7th Brigade. (Just to get rid of all of those red links). Do you agree?

And, btw: we need somebody with access to an Israeli library, a library with copies (or microfiche) of Haolam Hazeh from 1980. We need someone to check the January and July editions for that year. Do I hear you volunteer? ;-) Regards, Huldra 16:44, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for your reply! And no, I had no plans to move the 7th Brigade- article. Instead I´ve made a redir (as outlined above) -and gotten rid of heaps of red links. As for the Haolam Hazeh ref; I will se what other editors accept as ref. first. Anyway, thanks again for your inf. Regards, Huldra 05:29, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Re: Deletion of Lunar Anime

Lunar Anime was nominated for speedy deletion by Timecop according to CSD A7, with the edit summary "vanity self promoting page about anime group. 100% original research as well.". Self-promotion is a common problem on CSD, and the article didn't have any references or sources outside of a link to the group's site. Upon review, though, I may have acted carelessly in deleting it, and the article should have at least been sent to AfD. I'll restore it. -- Scott e 04:23, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

It's now on AfD here. -- Scott e 04:35, 6 April 2006 (UTC)