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Your submission at Articles for creation: yesterdaysfire (January 4)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Theroadislong was:

This submission seems to be a test edit and not an article worthy of an encyclopedia. Please use the sandbox for any editing tests, but do not submit for review until you have an article that you want reviewed for inclusion in Wikipedia. Thank you.

The comment the reviewer left was:

This belongs on your user page it doesn't need to be submitted for review?

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Theroadislong (talk) 22:22, 4 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! Yesterdaysfire, I noticed your article was declined at Articles for Creation, and that can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Theroadislong (talk) 22:22, 4 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: It's Never Enough (Mordecai album) (January 4)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by David.moreno72 was:

This submission's references do not adequately show the subject's notability. Wikipedia requires significant coverage (not just mere mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject—see the guidelines on the notability of music-related topics, the golden rule and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue. Please improve the submission's referencing (see Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners and Help:Introduction to referencing/1), so that the information is verifiable, and there is clear evidence of why the subject is notable and worthy of inclusion in an encyclopedia. If additional reliable sources cannot be found for the subject, then it may not be suitable for Wikipedia at this time.

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David.moreno72 23:56, 4 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Y La Bamba (Band) (January 8)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by BusterD was:

This submission's references do not adequately show the subject's notability. Wikipedia requires significant coverage (not just mere mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject—see the guidelines on the notability of music-related topics, the golden rule and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue. Please improve the submission's referencing (see Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners and Help:Introduction to referencing/1), so that the information is verifiable, and there is clear evidence of why the subject is notable and worthy of inclusion in an encyclopedia. If additional reliable sources cannot be found for the subject, then it may not be suitable for Wikipedia at this time.

The comment the reviewer left was:

Removed clear copyright violation, kept quote; need to find more sources from more diverse and nationwide outlets. Portland Mercury is a local paper and what it provides is routine entertainment coverage. That said, I'd count it once. The NPR cite is golden (if one doesn't literally copy it into this article). But we need at least two more sources meeting WP:IRS to call this subject notable, in this reviewer's opinion.

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BusterD (talk) 13:07, 8 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I appreciate your contacting me on talk. I'm not saying this isn't a worthy effort, and I'm not saying the work you've done is insufficient. As a page reviewer I have some discretion, but also have a responsibility to ensure the page I reviewed meets standards "hallowed" by practice and consensus. In this overlong message I hope to give you some insight.

First, I can't review your page by comparing it to other less worthy efforts. I didn't see those other band pages (I can only be so many places at one time). If those pages are not strongly sourced, they might find themselves deleted. My task is to review THIS page with a mind towards improvement and prevent ITS deletion.
Second, I reviewed your page and found some text which was taken verbatim from the NPR source, though correctly cited. The quote from the same source is perfectly acceptable. I could have put the page up for speedy deletion because of the plagiarism. I felt this would be a disproportionate response. So I deleted the text and moved your cite. I wouldn't have touched your text if you had reworded it from the source text.
Third, there's no deadline here on Wikipedia. Just because the page isn't published now doesn't mean it won't be published.
Fourth and lastly, we SHOULD be discussing how to improve the page by additional sourcing. In the last few minutes, I found Inlander, OPB, Willamette Week, Noise and Color PDX, local PBS. This stuff is just out there and you should be using it upon which to improve the page. BusterD (talk) 16:17, 9 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I hope I have better acquainted you with the way a reviewer works. Folks like myself are here to ensure this is an encyclopedia, not a random listing of local bands. I believe the subject about which you've written is likely to be included in Wikipedia; if not I wouldn't be chatting with you. Add a couple of the sources linked above and make the page something to be proud of. Now I want to know more about this band. Without sounding promotional, show the average reader why they should care. BusterD (talk) 16:17, 9 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Mordecai (Band) (January 23)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Zawl was:

This submission's references do not adequately show the subject's notability. Wikipedia requires significant coverage (not just mere mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject—see the guidelines on the notability of music-related topics, the golden rule and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue. Please improve the submission's referencing (see Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners and Help:Introduction to referencing/1), so that the information is verifiable, and there is clear evidence of why the subject is notable and worthy of inclusion in an encyclopedia. If additional reliable sources cannot be found for the subject, then it may not be suitable for Wikipedia at this time.

The comment the reviewer left was:

Some of the first seven references discuss the album rather than the band and the others are just event listings and press releases. Significant coverage of reliable sources that are independent of the topic is needed to establish notability per the general notability guideline. Other than that, if the criteria for musical artists can be satisfied, then it may be sufficient for acceptance of this article.

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— Za wl 19:13, 23 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: It's Never Enough (Mordecai album) (February 25)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Chetsford was:

This submission's references do not adequately show the subject's notability. Wikipedia requires significant coverage (not just mere mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject—see the guidelines on the notability of music-related topics, the golden rule and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue. Please improve the submission's referencing (see Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners and Help:Introduction to referencing/1), so that the information is verifiable, and there is clear evidence of why the subject is notable and worthy of inclusion in an encyclopedia. If additional reliable sources cannot be found for the subject, then it may not be suitable for Wikipedia at this time.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

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Chetsford (talk) 04:37, 25 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Y La Bamba (Band) (March 1)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Ravenswing was:

This submission's references do not adequately show the subject's notability. Wikipedia requires significant coverage (not just mere mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject—see the guidelines on the notability of music-related topics, the golden rule and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue. Please improve the submission's referencing (see Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners and Help:Introduction to referencing/1), so that the information is verifiable, and there is clear evidence of why the subject is notable and worthy of inclusion in an encyclopedia. If additional reliable sources cannot be found for the subject, then it may not be suitable for Wikipedia at this time.

The comment the reviewer left was:

Since the previous decline (asking for two more sources that meet IRS), several sources were added, but none of them meet IRS. Spin magazine does, of course, but a meager two-paragraph review of the latest album is not the "significant coverage" the GNG requires.

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Ravenswing 21:39, 1 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Mordecai (Band)

The article you submitted to Articles for creation has been created.

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Bindle-stiff (talk) 03:28, 12 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: It's Never Enough (Mordecai album) (March 12)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Heliosxeros was:

This submission's references do not adequately show the subject's notability. Wikipedia requires significant coverage (not just mere mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject—see the guidelines on the notability of music-related topics, the golden rule and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue. Please improve the submission's referencing (see Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners and Help:Introduction to referencing/1), so that the information is verifiable, and there is clear evidence of why the subject is notable and worthy of inclusion in an encyclopedia. If additional reliable sources cannot be found for the subject, then it may not be suitable for Wikipedia at this time.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

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EROS ^message 10:50, 12 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Richie Greene (Composer) (March 14)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by GRuban was:

This submission's references do not adequately show the subject's notability. Wikipedia requires significant coverage (not just mere mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject—see the guidelines on the notability of music-related topics, the golden rule and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue. Please improve the submission's referencing (see Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners and Help:Introduction to referencing/1), so that the information is verifiable, and there is clear evidence of why the subject is notable and worthy of inclusion in an encyclopedia. If additional reliable sources cannot be found for the subject, then it may not be suitable for Wikipedia at this time.

The comment the reviewer left was:

We need indepth articles about the artist from reliable sources; so the New York Times, for example, is great, but it needs to be a real article not just a mention.

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GRuban (talk) 17:11, 14 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: It's Never Enough (Mordecai album) has been accepted

It's Never Enough (Mordecai album), which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.

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Legacypac (talk) 06:15, 5 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Answering the question you left on the feedback page

Hi,

To give you an update the following page that you have made is live in what we call "main-space":

Mordecai (band)

The following page exists as a redirect in mainspace:

It's Never Enough (Mordecai album) redirects to the page of the band.

The following pages are not live and are still in "draft-space". They will be deleted in six months if left unchanged.:

If you need anymore help just reply below. Best wishes, jcc (tea and biscuits) 22:23, 6 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft article, Draft:Y La Bamba (Band)

Hello, Yesterdaysfire. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Y La Bamba".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been nominated for deletion. If you plan on working on it further, or editing it to address the issues raised if it was declined, simply edit the submission and remove the {{db-afc}}, {{db-draft}}, or {{db-g13}} code.

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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Sam Sailor 23:41, 1 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Per your request at WP:REFUND, Draft:Y La Bamba (Band) has been restored. —C.Fred (talk) 01:01, 5 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft article, Draft:Richie Greene (Composer)

Hello, Yesterdaysfire. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Richie Greene".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been nominated for deletion. If you plan on working on it further, or editing it to address the issues raised if it was declined, simply edit the submission and remove the {{db-afc}}, {{db-draft}}, or {{db-g13}} code.

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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Sam Sailor 20:44, 14 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft article, Draft:Richie Greene

Hello, Yesterdaysfire. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Richie Greene".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been nominated for deletion. If you plan on working on it further, or editing it to address the issues raised if it was declined, simply edit the submission and remove the {{db-afc}}, {{db-draft}}, or {{db-g13}} code.

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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. JMHamo (talk) 08:37, 17 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft article, Draft:Y La Bamba (Band)

Hello, Yesterdaysfire. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Y La Bamba".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been nominated for deletion. If you plan on working on it further, or editing it to address the issues raised if it was declined, simply edit the submission and remove the {{db-afc}}, {{db-draft}}, or {{db-g13}} code.

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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Dolotta (talk) 03:55, 26 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]