User talk:Yagmurgenco

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Hello, Yagmurgenco, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few links to pages you might find helpful:

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Please remember to sign your messages on talk pages by typing four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically insert your username and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or ask for help on your talk page, and a volunteer should respond shortly. Again, welcome! JohnCD (talk) 15:06, 26 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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More advice as promised.

The first thing to say is that Wikipedia is selective about subjects for articles. The criterion used is called Wikipedia:Notability, and is not a matter of opinion but has to be demonstrated by references showing "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject." Significant means more than just listing-type mentions; reliable excludes Myspace, Facebook, blogs, places where anyone can post anything; independent excludes the subject's own website, affiliated ones and anything based on press releases. The test is, have people not connected with the subject thought it significant enough to write substantial comment about? See also WP:Notability (summary).

That has the advantage of being a more objective test than "Do we think it's important?" and also of ensuring that there are independent sources for the article. It is quite a tough test, and many worthy organizations, especially new ones, cannot pass it. That is not at all to their discredit, but it means they are not suitable subjects for a global encyclopedia. The test applies to non-commercial organizations and good causes, too.

The next thing is that, as an encyclopedia rather than a Facebook-style site, Wikipedia is not a place for organizations to tell the world about themselves. That is one reason why independent references are necessary, so that an article can be constructed which is an outside view of the subject, not just the story it wants to tell. I have this conversation so often that I have written User:JohnCD/Not a noticeboard to explain some of the issues

So: read WP:Your first article, collect independent references, and then use Wikipedia:Articles for creation to guide you through the process of making a draft. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 22:02, 26 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]