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What did I do wrong?

Hello, I just saw your message on my talk page that I have been blocked, and that I can ask for clarification here. What did I do wrong please? Loves Woolf1882 (talk) 04:48, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

(by talk page watcher) Loves Woolf1882, not blocked, topic banned. If you were blocked you wouldn't be able to edit any page except your own talk page. ~Gwennie🐈｟💬 📋｠ 04:52, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
Thank you for your correction User:Gwennie-nyan. But what I meant was, why am I topic banned? What did I do wrong please? Loves Woolf1882 (talk) 04:58, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
(in the process of replying) — Wug·a·po·des​ 05:05, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
Ok I will wait for your reply, take your time. Please do NOT forget to read my full "Response" for the compliant made against me. I have answered for the accusations as detail as possible. (I can answer if there needs to be more clarification.) @LindsayH: and @Drmies: made their comments before I responded. Loves Woolf1882 (talk) 05:33, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
Hi LW, you can definitely ask for clarification! Firstly (as Gwennie pointed out while I was writing this), you are not blocked. On Wikipedia, a block is a software restriction that prevents you from saving edits to pages. What you are under is a topic ban which is a social restriction (also, sorry for not linking to that page in my message, it's helpful and important to read if you're confused). Editors under a ban are asked by the community to not do certain things (in your case, make edits relating to the Horn of Africa) but as long as you abide by the restriction you are free to keep editing other pages. Hopefully that clears things up, but doesn't get to the root of your question which seems more about the underlying reason for the ban.
The simplest but probably least accurate reason is that you didn't take the advice given in your unblock request: stay away from contentious topics for a while. The more difficult but accurate reason is that you're still learning the ropes and your attempts to improve the named articles were a net negative. While we won't hound you for every mistake, in especially contentious areas like those relating to political violence, we really cannot afford to spend time helping editors get up to speed on norms and policies. You original block was for tendentious editing and misuse of sources. While you've obviously improved since then, you've still got a lot to learn and are still making mistakes. When these were brought up, you got defensive and posted a WP:WALLOFTEXT which quite honestly doesn't help as much as you'd think. Everyone learns by making mistakes, but some areas are less tolerant of them than others--this is one of the more serious and less error-tolerant parts of the encyclopedia. I'd summarize all that with what I saw as the heart of the advice Lindsay gave to you (in your unblock discussion and in this ANI discussion): learn by editing in calmer areas and once you get used to the editorial culture carefully wade into the more contentious areas.
Beyond that, I can't give a lot of specific advice since I don't know you or the topic area that well--I'm just working off the AN(I) discussions I read. It'll probably bruise your ego, but you should consider talking to Boud about the issues and how you can better learn the ropes. Their OP showed a lot of grace and I think they'd be in a good place to give you more specific advice. LindsayH may also be a good person to reach out to as her advice has been pretty on-point. No matter what you wind up doing, it's best to think of this topic-ban as the community asking you to try working in calmer areas until you get used to the place. Feel free to keep asking if you have more questions. — Wug·a·po·des​ 05:44, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
Thank you for the clarification. I don't mean to argue with you, but the ban is not justified. Since I try to bring & give minority people's human right question/claims... equal space on Wikipedia, it looks as if I have some opposite view to other people. But that is because I brought the view of minorities in the midst of the majorities. For example, one of the points on the compliant against me was that I NPOV-taged a page, that was recently NPOVed-taged on the other side. But what should have mattered was that which one is backed by credible references. All my points were WELL referenced by independent credible sources like BBC, the international Human Right Watch, NPR and so on.
Anyhow, if there is one, please point me an administrator who knows the area well, so I can maybe ping them on the WP:AN appeal I'm going to make. I really did nothing wrong, especially something worthy of a block. And there was no mention of "stay away from contentious topics for a while" when I was unblocked, if we're talking frankly. But about the "net negative", if you're talking about out the Mai kadra massacre page, I was actually making a short clear summery of how to move forward (so to get progress), I just didn't had time to finish it yet. But again, consider that I brought well referenced minority's view, so it may have stopped others from NPOVing it with outdated sources (or even with no sources/references). Loves Woolf1882 (talk) 06:39, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
(by talk page watcher) Loves Woolf1882, you misunderstand it seems. As an admin, Wugapodes is merely informing you of the community decision that you should be banned from this topic. All admins worth their broom are incredibly willing to undergo peer and community review of their actions. After all, admins are there to serve the community and not vice-versa.
However, since it is in place— Any violation of this topic-specific editing ban (including weighing in on talk pages related to the topic) will be seen as unwillingness to go along with community consensus. The results of such are going to be an actual block, which will prevent you from editing. This may be for a length of time or indefinite.
You, like any editor, is free to appeal to the Arbitration Committee. In my opinion, however, given the circumstances I've read, they are unlikely to return in your favor. Just like any admin is unlikely to overturn's Wug's closure and implementation of the topic ban.
Additionally, your admission above of wanting to WP:ADMINSHOP does not in any way look good on your behavior. This is an extension of the same behavior you were topic-banned for, which is tendentious editing. Even if you have sources, it never looks good to WP:POVPUSH. The more controversial the topic, the more civil we need to be, in addition to making sure even reliable sources are given their WP:DUEWEIGHT.
This is a big encyclopedia, there's a lot of things to do. Perhaps you'd like to assist in another area outside of your topic ban?
Regards ~Gwennie🐈｟💬 📋｠ 07:21, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
Hello again User:Gwennie-nyan. First, I think I miss wrote the above, what I meant was NPOV-"taged". (I have now corrected it.) I added an NPOV-tag on the actual page, and gave my reason on the talk page is what I meant. (I didn't mean I NPOVed the page, which is of course very wrong.) But me placing NPOV-tag and bring the minorities' well referenced issue was seen controversial, because others (without reference) have complained that the page has NPOV issue (on the opposite side), before I ever get involved on the page.
I hardly even edited the page, I mostly pointed out things I saw as NPOV on the talk page. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mai_Kadra_massacre#Response_to_%22Remove_the_POV_tag%22._(Justifications_for_the_POV/NPOV_tag) .
Wugapodes on my page wrote "This should be considered a community-imposed topic ban, so any appeals should be made at WP:AN not to me directly. If you have clarification questions, feel free to ask on my talk page.". So that is why I asked for clarification here, and that was why I said I was going to appeal on the WP:AN. Please let me know where I should appeal,(you said at WP:ARBCOM but Wugapodes said at WP:AN). I would please like to appeal. Thank you. Loves Woolf1882 (talk) 07:55, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
Loves Woolf1882, you could appeal in both venues. Try appealing at AN/I first but you can also appeal to the Arb Committee if you want. However, careful when you select a venue. If something between me and Wug conflicts, assume Wug's statements first before mine. However your reluctance to accept the community sanctions against you is concerning. ~Gwennie🐈｟💬 📋｠ 21:04, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
Don't appeal at ArbCom; they haven't heard community ban appeals since 2015. I also do not recommend appealing right now for the reasons Lindsay and Nil gave on your talk page. I don't have time to give a thorough reply but I promise one, and most likely on your talk page to prevent splitting discussions. If you're looking for advice from an admin familiar in the area, first email them because discussing the Horn of Africa on-wiki will violate your ban and I don't want that to happen. I believe Cordless Larry is experienced in this area (based on their statement at WP:HORN), so you may want to send them an email asking for some advice on the editorial culture there and what to be wary of. — Wug·a·po·des​ 00:13, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

Noticed you were active

So I was curious if you were willing to consider closing the Bgkc4444 and Isento conflagration? If so, please. Thank you ~Gwennie🐈｟💬 📋｠ 04:36, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

Sure I'll have a look — Wug·a·po·des​ 04:37, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
Wugapodes, also for your information, after Isento started this, Bgkc4444 started a since-archived but unclosed thread which contained other content and user input which you might find useful. Perhaps it should be unarchived and brought in as a subheader so we can close the whole thing together? Either way  Thank you very much! ~Gwennie🐈｟💬 📋｠ 04:42, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
I'm too tired to finish this right now and it's complex enough that I don't want to mess it up in haste. I'll probably sleep on it, so if it's something urgent you may want to ask someone else to close before me. That said I've read a lot of it and wanted to commend you for your mediation there. You did a good job! If it's still there tomorrow I'll read it over again and close it. — Wug·a·po·des​ 06:09, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
Wugapodes, it's not urgent, I just wanted someone to work on it. And o-oh thank you. I tried to mediate I uh don't know how to take compliments well uh. It's been there for like a couple weeks, it'll probably be there tomorrow. Thank you~ ~Gwennie🐈｟💬 📋｠ 06:21, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
 Done — Wug·a·po·des​ 00:53, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

Permissions

You just gave additional permissions to a user 5 days off their last block for sock puppetry. Really?! What criteria do you use to evaluate a request like that? Toddst1 (talk) 00:38, 11 January 2021 (UTC)

@Toddst1: My criterion is "will they move files in accordance with WP:FNC". The evidence said, quote obviously, yes. Was the user blocked for inappropriately moving files? Are they still blocked? Unless the answer to one of those questions is "yes" I don't see that as a reason to revoke (or not grant) file mover per WP:AGF and WP:NOTPUNITIVE. — Wug·a·po·des​ 00:44, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
@Toddst1:, would also like to point out that the permissions Wug gave them were temporary. They weren't permanent account permissions. Unless there's some serious behavior during the three days they have file mover permissions, I don't see any issue. ~Gwennie🐈｟💬 📋｠ 01:45, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
@Gwennie-nyan: That's incorrect. I granted indefinite file mover rights to someone who already had temporary file mover rights which is why the log looks like that. — Wug·a·po·des​ 01:47, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
@Wugapodes:, ah, my bad. Apologies, log confused me. ~Gwennie🐈｟💬 📋｠ 01:49, 11 January 2021 (UTC)

(edit conflict) I am currently not blocked and have been performing file moving as per WP:FNC guidelines and normal editing. The block was imposed because of a honest mistake of editing (actually I posted a query on WP:AN as an IP editor) without logging in-spite having a well established account. See the discussion here. Thank you — Amkgp 💬 05:03, 11 January 2021 (UTC)

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15:41, 11 January 2021 (UTC)

Do you have someone lined up to close the Logo RfC?

Just curious if you've ready with that part of the logistics of doing this. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 03:20, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

@Barkeep49: Nope, you want to do it? The bigger problem is figuring out who can actually make the change. If we go the CSS route, we'd just need an intadmin. Changing the config might be better, but I'm not sure who to get in touch with about that or what the turnaround time would be (if you're a talk page watcher who knows the answer now's the time to pounce). — Wug·a·po·des​ 03:51, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
I had opinions so I wasn't going to make a good closer. I put the bat signal out for an INTADMIN on Discord so hopefully one of them steps up. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 04:23, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
Izno said they might be able to be your intadmin but suggested that Xaosflux would be a better choice if they're willing. Actually implementing this is well above my current knowledge and so I live it to people with actual proficiency to take it from here. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 04:46, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
Xaosflux was my first thought too, though they also have an opinion. Unless it's a clear cut result, Izno, you may well get to do the honors. I don't know anything about the CSS/config tradeoffs, but presumably both are workable for a non-permanent change. In the mean time, I've got to prep for a committee meeting tomorrow so probably won't be too active until ~20:00 UTC. — Wug·a·po·des​ 05:09, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
You should probably go via the config. The patch usually has to be part of one of the deployment windows (see wikitech:Deployments for schedule - at least one daily except weekends), but sysadmins @ #wikimedia-operations are friendly and can advise (pinging in Martin Urbanec). You may need multiple versions of the logo for sizing, btw, as in 1x, 1.5x, 2x - I'm not sure on the details for that. ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 06:02, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
All the logos are vector graphics so rescaling will be trivial. As for deployment, it looks like there's backport windows scheduled for 19:00 today and 00:01 tomorrow (both UTC). Those look like our chances to get the patch in. I'll come back around 18:00 to tie up loose ends at the RfC, finalize the file, and get a patch ready. There's no scheduled deployments after 01:00 tomorrow, so let's shoot for 19:00 so we still have a fallback option in case something goes wrong. — Wug·a·po·des​ 06:57, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
Looks great Wug! Thanks for your work on this! ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 08:11, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
If devs can do it, it is much preferred to do it via config - especially if the duration of the change will be more than a day or two - last time we did this it was for a very short time and we couldn't wait for devs to get around to it. I don't think any of our intadmins would have a problem implementing the consensus (inc me) even if we !voted in the RfC (we're not the ones actually closing the RfC). Ping me over at WP:IANB if you need me. — xaosflux Talk 12:05, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Sounds I noticed the ping too late, as the logo is now live :). Yeah, generally, Monday to Thursday is best to get such change done (just create a task at Phab in those cases). If you need it ASAP, you can usually get help in #wikimedia-operations. --Martin Urbanec (talk) 21:11, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

Weigh in please?

 Second opinion requested at this BLP/N section. We need someone more experienced to weigh into this discussion. Thank you very much if you can assist. ~Gwennie🐈｟💬 📋｠ 08:10, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

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16:09, 18 January 2021 (UTC)

Are you aware...

...of this? A request has been made to revoke SashiRoll's TPA. Beyond My Ken (talk) 01:18, 18 January 2021 (UTC)

I wasn't, thanks for letting me know. I restored the previous block settings since the appeal was unsuccessful. — Wug·a·po·des​ 05:20, 18 January 2021 (UTC)
Thanks for taking care of that. Beyond My Ken (talk) 23:45, 18 January 2021 (UTC)

Thanks

Just wanted to say thanks for your graphic design and general excellence with the WP20 logo! Cheers, Ovinus (talk) 02:31, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

  • I've been meaning to thank Wugapodes for a week. I saw the discussion about needing a new logo, and I saw the whining about how unusual the new logo was (omg it looks different!), but that logo was actually sensational and just right for its purpose—thanks! I also endorse the views from Wugapodes here. We should not be surprised that the WMF fails to provide proper support for important community initiatives but it is irritating. Johnuniq (talk) 04:03, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

I'm rather busy tonight, but I hope to thank you both properly soon--as I said, barnstars are coming. In the mean time, the person to thank is Amory for doing what they could to implement community consensus and Legoktm for deploying the server configuration. — Wug·a·po·des​ 04:54, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

AllAfrica.com

Hello. Do you still have access to this site? If so, would you be able to share the full text of this article to help with Elifuraha Marealle? Cheers, Number 57 22:40, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

@Number 57: Yeah, it says that it's a reprint of a Daily News article which is no longer online but was archived by Internet Archive. I checked and it looks to be the same content, so you should probably cite the original (especially since the original content is available in full) rather than AllAfrica. You can find the archived content here. — Wug·a·po·des​ 22:52, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
Excellent, thanks! Number 57 23:02, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

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D'Angelo

There are a few verified references in this article, to the topic from which I'm banned from editing. I wanted to add "progressive soul" as a genre in the infobox, in the manner of this recent edit. Should I make an edit request? isento (talk) 19:58, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

Along with the Village Voice source in that recent edit, this Billboard source also supports "progressive soul" for D'Angelo's infobox. isento (talk) 20:00, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

@Isento: sorry I missed this, I thought I had replied but I guess I accidentally closed the tab before publishing. Looking at the article, I don't see a connection between the genre and Beyonce so you should be fine unless I'm missing something (which I might be, I can't seem to open the billboard link). In general, if the edit is about D'Angelo's work indpendent of Beyonce, you're fine. What you're banned from are only the parts of that article which relate directly to Beyonce. On the off chance my delay caused you to accidentally violate your ban, you should be fine since it's my fault for being so slow, sorry. — Wug·a·po·des​ 20:26, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

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"Template:R slang" listed at Redirects for discussion

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17:55, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

Reminders

In case it slipped your mind.... For the categorization issue which I brought up in August, and the bot request was approved in October, it appears that the bot hasn't yet been deployed for this task.

Also, you proposed some changes in May, and confirmed in October that you intend to proceed.

No hurry on anything (especially the template changes, since everything already works as is). Just some reminders in case you forgot. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 23:26, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

One more thing: please note for User:Wugapodes/DYK promoter.js that there are currently seven Prep areas. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 21:00, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

@Mandarax: Thanks for the reminders, and sorry about the delays. My meatspace work these last few months has taken up a lot of my time, so I probably won't get around to this for at least another month. If you're interested in working on any of this let me know and I'd be happy to give you whatever tools you'd need. — Wug·a·po·des​ 22:00, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
No problem. Take all the time you need. And about the DYK promoter script, I assumed that you had just written it in response to the current WT:DYK discussion, and that you forgot that there are seven Preps. It wasn't until now that I checked the history, and saw that you started it back when there still only six. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 22:19, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

Your RfA question

I thought your question was pretty interesting. WP:PREEMPTIVE is what immediately comes to mind, but I'd have thought in that particular case WP:BLPADMINS applies, if not the DS? Administrators who suspect malicious or biased editing, or believe that inappropriate material may be added or restored, may protect or semi-protect pages. Not sure what you were thinking when you asked the question, but was just curious to find out :) ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 19:41, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

I really just wanted to see how the candidate thought about the problem; I don't think there's a right answer. It's a complex situation at the intersection of time pressure, harm reduction, and community consensus. My concerns after reading the answers and neutrals was how the candidate would wield IAR, so I wanted to give a situation where simply citing PREEMPTIVE wouldn't adequately resolve the situation. It's based on a situation I face at RFPP. For my part I went against PREEMPTIVE to try and LimitDamage, but it's far from the only option and has very serious downsides (as articulated at PEREN which the candidate linked to). "Wait and see" is a viable option, and one not a lot of people think about when faced with a deadline pressuring them to do something, so it was nice to see more than a textbook decline-and-move-on but an actual plan for how to prevent the likely harm while still respecting our community policies. — Wug·a·po·des​ 23:45, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

Tech News: 2021-08

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Recent changes

  • The visual editor will now use MediaSearch to find images. You can search for images on Commons in the visual editor when you are looking for illustrations. This is to help editors find better images. [29]
  • Advanced item The syntax highlighter now works with more languages: Futhark, Graphviz/DOT, CDDL and AMDGPU. [30]

Problems

  • Editing a timeline might have removed all text from it. This was because of a bug and has been fixed. You might need to edit the timeline again for it to show properly. [31]

Changes later this week

  • Recurrent item The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 23 February. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 24 February. It will be on all wikis from 25 February (calendar).

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  • Advanced item There is a user group for developers and users interested in working on Wikimedia wikis with the Rust programming language. You can join or tell others who want to make your wiki better in the future.

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Clarification

In your statement are you saying you agree with Johnuniq's assessment about my TfD, or you agree with the general idea that concerns of retaliation (when the filer might've also made a mistake) scares people away from reporting issues? I'd personally dispute Johnuniq's statement, the simplest example being I found it very hard to get PR to say what the dispute was about; in my very first reply to him I succinctly said that I agreed with the understanding of the dispute he outlined in his own words.[32]: Johnuniq, that is pretty much an accurate description, I think. ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 11:42, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

@ProcrastinatingReader: Let me ramble for a moment, though if you're short on time the last sentence is a direct answer to your question so feel free to skip my musings. Have you ever listened to the band Nana Grizol? I quite like them. They're a folk band from Georgia and I'm particularly drawn to their lyricism; reminds me a lot of The Tallest Man on Earth, but with less bluegrass influence. Personally, I like their album Ursa Minor most, but at the moment I'm thinking of a song from Love It Love It which don't get me wrong is quite good, but it was their first album so they were still trying to find themselves I think. Anyway, my favorite song from is "Motion in the Ocean" which I think shows the group's unique mastery of meter along with their beautiful lyrical imagery reminiscent of Jeff Mangum. One line I find myself returning to in that song is Life's not made up of things that must be lost or won/But you can live that way if that's what you call fun. In terms of composition I'm not sure if it's the strongest part of the song but I like the turn of phrase even if it's not flawless. I enjoy meditating on it every so often. Check it out if you get the chance! Anyway, I haven't looked into the merits of this dispute extensively, and quite honestly I don't really care about this particular spat. To directly answer your question, I "agree with the general idea that concerns of retaliation (when the filer might've also made a mistake) scares people away from reporting issues". — Wug·a·po·des​ 22:36, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

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Some bubble tea for you!

Thank you for all the help and patience. isento (talk) 13:15, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Tech News: 2021-09

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • Wikis using the Growth team tools can now show the name of a newcomer's mentor anywhere through a magic word. This can be used for welcome messages or userboxes.
  • A new version of the VideoCutTool is now available. It enables cropping, trimming, audio disabling, and rotating video content. It is being created as part of the developer outreach programs.

Problems

  • There was a problem with the job queue. This meant some functions did not save changes and mass messages were delayed. This did not affect wiki edits. [33]
  • Some editors may not be logged in to their accounts automatically in the latest versions of Firefox and Safari. [34]

Changes later this week

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Administrators' newsletter – March 2021

News and updates for administrators from the past month (February 2021).

Administrator changes

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  • When blocking an IPv6 address with Twinkle, there is now a checkbox with the option to just block the /64 range. When doing so, you can still leave a block template on the initial, single IP address' talkpage.
  • When protecting a page with Twinkle, you can now add a note if doing so was in response to a request at WP:RfPP, and even link to the specific revision.
  • There have been a number of reported issues with Pending Changes. Most problems setting protection appear to have been resolved (phab:T273317) but other issues with autoaccepting edits persist (phab:T275322).

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WikiCup 2021 March newsletter

Round 1 of the competition has finished; it was a high-scoring round with 21 contestants scoring more than 100 points. Everyone with a positive score moves on to Round 2, with 55 contestants qualifying. You will need to finish among the top thirty-two contestants in Round 2 if you are to qualify for Round 3. Our top scorers in Round 1 were:

  • New York (state) Epicgenius led the field with a featured article, nine good articles and an assortment of other submissions, specialising on buildings and locations in New York, for a total of 945 points.
  • Republic of Venice Bloom6132 was close behind with 896 points, largely gained from 71 "In the news" items, mostly recent deaths.
  • Scotland ImaginesTigers, who has been editing Wikipedia for less than a year, was in third place with 711 points, much helped by bringing League of Legends to featured article status, exemplifying how bonus points can boost a contestant's score.
  • Rwanda Amakuru came next with 708 points, Kigali being another featured article that scored maximum bonus points.
  • Ktin, new to the WikiCup, was in fifth place with 523 points, garnered from 15 DYKs and 34 "In the news" items.
  • Botswana The Rambling Man scored 511 points, many from featured article candidate reviews and from football related DYKs.
  • Gog the Mild, last year's runner-up, came next with 498 points, from a featured article and numerous featured article candidate reviews.
  • Hog Farm, at 452, scored for a featured article, four good articles and a number of reviews.
  • United States Le Panini, another newcomer to the WikiCup, scored 438 for a featured article and three good articles.
  • England Lee Vilenski, last year's champion, scored 332 points, from a featured article and various other sport-related topics.

These contestants, like all the others, now have to start again from scratch. In Round 1, contestants achieved eight featured articles, three featured lists and one featured picture, as well as around two hundred DYKs and twenty-seven ITNs. They completed 97 good article reviews, nearly double the 52 good articles they claimed. Contestants also claimed for 135 featured article and featured list candidate reviews. There is no longer a requirement to mention your WikiCup participation when undertaking these reviews.

Remember that any content promoted after the end of Round 1 but before the start of Round 2 can be claimed in Round 2. Invitations for collaborative writing efforts or any other discussion of potentially interesting work is always welcome on the WikiCup talk page. Remember, if two or more WikiCup competitors have done significant work on an article, all can claim points. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is a good article candidate, a featured process, or something else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews.

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Green for hope

Lenten Rose

Today, we have a DYK about Wilhelm Knabe, who stood up for future with the striking school children when he was in his 90s, - a model, - see here. - Thank you for your position in the arb case request, - I feel I have to stay away, but there are conversations further down on the page, in case of interest, - in a nutshell: "... will not improve kindness, nor any article". - Yesterday, I made sure on a hike that the flowers are actually blooming ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:50, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

@Gerda Arendt: Thanks for the note, and especially for your tireless contributions! I'm always inspired by the efforts of Greens, they remind me of the American abolition movement's philosophy as summarized by Elizabeth Cady Stanton: "I never forget that we are sowing winter wheat which the coming spring will see sprout and other hands than ours will reap and enjoy". I'm glad the flowers are still blooming! To keep up my recent trend of music recommendations, have you ever listened to The Decemberists? You reminded me of one of my favorite songs of theirs, "June Hymn". The imagery never fails to get me into a spring mindset. I like to think of it as part of a three song cycle starting with with "January Hymn" from the same album and ending with "July!, July!" from their first album. Personally, I'm looking forward to the summer, largely because I hope the pandemic will be mostly behind us. I've gone stir crazy, and though work is largely to blame for my recent absence, a not-insignificant factor is that I'm simply too grumpy most days to keep my cool. Things are tense in the real world, so things are tense on Wikipedia because Wikipedia is in the real world. Sarah and I think a few others made a similar point in the RfArb, and I think we'd do well as a community to keep that in mind; a lot of us are worn out. We shouldn't ignore the problems incivility causes for the community, but we also shouldn't make situations worse by throwing sanctions around as if all our home lives haven't been severely disrupted. Hopefully ArbCom is able to handle that nuance. — Wug·a·po·des​ 22:12, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
Thank you, and I'll check out the music! We had one arb case where the accused said nothing. I'm in the process of nominating a garden architect for DYK, more later perhaps. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:25, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

RE: Album era

Happy to tell you that this article passed GA without any complications 😊 isento (talk) 13:13, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

That's great to hear! Thanks for your contributions (and the tea)! — Wug·a·po·des​ 22:32, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
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