User talk:Wisdom89/Archive 7

Hi wisdom, re: Edit on Monster Blood II

• Hi there :). The edit was because I noticed a weird nowiki tag that botched the article format, however I forgot to put the reason in the edit comment. However, I see that you found said tag there and fixed it :) 148.240.230.226 (talk) 17:48, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Yup yup : ) Wisdom89 _{(T / ^C)} 17:49, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Hi wisdom

I did give an explanation, which I thought was pretty self explanatory. The information wasn't referenced. There was no way for me to verify if the information of the article was correct. I felt it was in the best interest of the readers to not be fed information that most probably false. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Capitalist Shrugged (talk • contribs) 17:41, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Ok, concede to your explanation, but that was an extraordinary large amount of material purged from the article. Wisdom89 _{(T / ^C)} 17:49, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Just a little advice though, you are removing extremely large chunks of text that reflect plot synopsises. Such information ordinarily does not require second or third party sourcing. Wisdom89 _{(T / ^C)} 18:19, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

WP:HAU

Hello again. The Highly Active Users project has gone through a complete revamping per popular demand. We believe this new format will make it easier for new editors to find assistance. However, with the new format, I must again ask you to verify your information on this page. I attempted to translate the data from the old version to the new, but with the extensive changes, I may have made some errors. Thanks again. Useight (talk) 04:30, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

RFA Thanks from Risker

Thanks for your participation at my recent Request for adminship. I’ll keep your concerns in mind as I continue to work within the project. I hope you find I live up to your expectations of administrators. Best, Risker (talk) 16:41, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Participation comment

Hi, Wisdom. I just wanted to drop you a line and let you know your continued article contributions, RfA discussion involvement and helping tasks are appreciated. Thank you for rolling up your sleeves in so many areas of the project. --Gwguffey (talk) 18:39, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Why dont you like Huggle?

Hi, I saw in the RFA for Aitias that you stated you did not like Huggle and there was another user who opposed stated the same concerns. Why is it that you do not like Huggle? Of course everyone has their preference of vandals tools to use but what has this tool got to do with the actual user? You just need to have experience just like basically everything in life and you will be OK. Everyone is human and everyone will make mistakes, but as long as they're corrected almost immediately there is no harm done i think. Thanks, keep up the great work in the RFAs. We can learn a lot from the comments you make. Roadrunnerz45 ^{(talk 2 me)} 05:14, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Huggle just isn't my thing. In my opinion, it increases the incidents of mis-warnings and mistakes. Bear in mind, though, that I would never oppose someone at RfA for utilizing a particular vandal tool. Cheers. Wisdom89 _{(T / ^C)} 06:23, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

RfA thank-spam

Wisdom89/Archive 7, just a note of appreciation for your recent support of my request for adminship, which ended successfully with 112 supports, 2 opposes, and 1 neutral. If there's something I've realized during my RFA process this last week, it's that adminship is primarily about trust. I will strive to the best of my ability to honour that trust in my future interactions with the community. Many thanks! Gatoclass (talk) 06:15, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

And thanks in particular for your kind words. Gatoclass (talk) 06:15, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

RfA thanks!

		RfA: Many thanks
		Many thanks for your participation in my recent request for adminship. I am impressed by the amount of thought that goes into people's contribution to the RfA process, and humbled that so many have chosen to trust me with this new responsibility. I step into this new role cautiously, but will do my very best to live up to your kind words and expectations, and to further the project of the encyclopedia. Again, thank you. --jbmurray (talk • contribs) 05:42, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Tkgd2007

Can you please refrain from comments like "I wonder what the weather is" on RfAs that are failing? They're needlessly provocative, BITEy, patronizing and just plain impolite. The tone of other comments were also needlessly patronizing, like starting with "Sorry bud, ..." Thanks, Maxim_(talk) 12:14, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

I don't agree. Wisdom89 _{(T / ^C)} 15:07, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

To elaborate. The following could be construed as bitey:

• Letting an RfA plummet with oppose after oppose and "patronizing" moral supports, especially if the candidate is new to RfA.
• Instead of using a euphemism (as I did), typing "Close this RfA per SNOW" might elicit the following reaction from the candidate: "What? Close? I thought I had seven days..etc..etc.."

Hopefully you see my point. Also, "Sorry bud" is used informally to sound like the applicant is getting a response from a human being, rather than a faceless phantom over the internet. Anyway, perhaps next time you'll drop me a note with something that reads a little less like an admonishment. Wisdom89 _{(T / ^C)} 16:00, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

I didn't mean to make sound like an admonishment (sorry, I totally missed your reply). I'm very sorry this note turned out this way. Maxim_(talk) 21:20, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

My Recent Rfa

Although you opposed me in my recent RFA I will still say thanks as from your comments and the other users comments that opposed me I have made a todo list for before my next RFA. I hope I will have resolved all of the issues before then and I hope that you would be able to support me in the future. If you would like to reply to this message or have any more suggestions for me then please message me on my talk page. Thanks again. ·Add§hore· ^Talk/_Cont 16:14, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Yum!

King iMatthew 2008 has given you Brownies! Brownies promote WikiLove and hopefully this plate has made your day better, and made you less hungry! Spread the WikiLove to others, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Cheers, and Happy editing! Have a nice, delicious plate of chocolate brownies. I though you deserved a treat. Enjoy! King iMatthew 2008 21:26, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, but why?

You left me some cookies on my user talk page (thank you!) but I haven't the slightest idea which article they are for! =) Enlighten me? Mistsrider (talk) 05:05, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

PCPP

I noticed that you were involved in reverting the continuous page blanking by this user so I'm letting you know I mentioned his behavior at WP:ANI. --Ave Caesar (talk) 13:49, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Adoption

Sorry it took so long. I haven't been on wikipedia for a long time. I finally got around to filling some stuff in on the adoption page, though. Wyatt915 (talk) 22:55, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thanks so much for your support in myRfA, which closed successfully this morning. PS I feel your pain as a former FT grad student, best of luck with your degree _{TravellingCari}^{the Busy Bee} 16:49, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

My RfA

I understand your concerns. Is there any way I can persuade you otherwise?Xp54321 (Vandals Beware!!!,Contribs) 01:35, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Hey there, I'm afraid not. While I know that your intentions are sincere, it's just not feasible for me to get an appreciable understanding of your knowledge of policy and adminship given your current statistical attributes. Your contributions to the Wikipedia namespace is quite bare, and your article work is a tad too thin for my liking. This isn't to say that you would not make a good administrator in the future, it just means that at this moment I am not convinced you possessing the buttons would be a net positive for Wikipedia. I hope you understand. Cheers! Wisdom89 _{(T / ^C)} 01:40, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Your advice is noted. Know of any articles requiring improvement?Xp54321 (Vandals Beware!!!,Contribs) 02:29, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

You could visit requests for expansion. which lists articles users would like to see expanded. Also, you could take a gander at Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Directory to see if there are any Wikiprojects that catch your eye. Wisdom89 _{(T / ^C)} 02:37, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Thank you. I'll get on it.Xp54321 (Vandals Beware!!!,Contribs) 02:39, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Yep, 6

My bad. I foolishly tried to update the count without opening the RfA again in another window. I did a quick count of the #s and I missed that one was a #: Enigma ^message 03:01, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Foolishly? Nah, better to have the count correct in the archives! Wisdom89 _{(T / ^C)} 03:06, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Xp54321 (2nd)

I would like a second opinion, if you wouldn't mind lending yours. User:Realist2 is accusing me of "muddying Xp54321's name", being incivil, and having a "lapse in judgement". Could you take a look at my comments there and let me know if you agree that my comments were out of line. I don't believe my comments were libelous or incivil, but I was hoping for an third-party's opinion. Thanks. Useight (talk) 04:02, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Im just expressing MY opinion just as you see fit to express YOURS at Xp54321's sock case. Its not nice is it Useight? Although i dont want to be accused of making a POINT or anything. --Realist² (Come Speak To Me) 04:05, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Realist, I made a comment regarding this on Useight's talk page if you are interested. I know these are just opinions, don't worry. Wisdom89 _{(T / ^C)} 04:21, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Part of your comment included that we both may have made the fundamental error that we didn't let the evidence speak for itself. I do see what you're getting at, but I would like to point out that we were both in agreeance with the evidence. Perhaps I was too vocal in agreeing with the presented evidence. Useight (talk) 04:29, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Hmm, so-so, im not going to get bogged down with admins over this one (wisdom if your not already you probably should be ;-)). Still im going to remain vocal on this one, that editer has had a terrible day at wikipedia, i

really dont want to see him leave over this if hes done nothing wrong. Realist² (Come Speak To Me) 04:33, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

I'm back dudes!!!! And yes school 7:30 to 2:30 PM. Has everything been resolved? Don't worry I'm fine. A good night's sleep helped. My mom even yelled at me for being on the computer for so long. But I now have a 3-day weekend due to memorial day. PS I live in oxnard, CA. Pacific time. Daylights saving time too. Offset from utc:-7 hours. I'll begin accepting apologies now.;)Xp54321 (Vandals Beware!!!,Contribs) 21:52, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

The case is closed. Also I'd like a review from you on my editor review. Link on top of my userpage.:)Xp54321 (Vandals Beware!!!,Contribs) 22:47, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Re:I think you deserve this

Thanks! And yes, I've been contributing there recently. I also do some research on a request, like the recent post about the "+" being replaced with "new section" on the top tab. The help desk is on my watch list so I see if I can help out wherever possible. Anyway, thanks again. -- RyRy5 (talk ♠ copy-edit) 04:42, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

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Huggle

I already have twinkle.Xp54321 (Vandals Beware!!!,Contribs) 01:14, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Yeah I thought I saw some edits of yours with that tool - Nothing wrong with that. I'm a supporter of the twink, not the hug. : )Wisdom89 _{(T / ^C)} 01:41, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Yeah true. I do see how huggle could be a total disaster.:)Xp54321 (Vandals Beware!!!,Contribs) 01:47, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

My RfA

Hey Wisdom89. I would like to thank you for your support in my RfA and the confidence expressed thereby. I appreciate your trust. :) Best wishes, —αἰτίας •discussion• 18:14, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Jet's RFA

Did you see what we did? We both moved his RFA to the top of the page at the same time. I was a bit taken aback when I saw two copies at the top. Just thought that was kind of funny. Useight (talk) 18:51, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

hehe, I didn't even notice that. I'm a little confused though, why are there so many past RfAs? surely Jet and Jet 2 are the only relevant onces. Is this a transclusion or a bot issue? Wisdom89 _{(T / ^C)} 18:52, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

I caught this thread by chance, but the template copied all RfAs beginning with the the title "Jet". A similar thing happened in RFA/Geni 2 when the box listed a user called Geniac's RfA, who was unrelated to Geni. The RfAs not related to Jet should be removed. Acalamari 18:57, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks...

for your kind vote of confidence on my RFA, and particularly for disregarding the whole 2 nom thing in my case! I will do my best to live up to the trust people have in me and not goof up to soon, I hope.--Slp1 (talk) 19:43, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

my RfA - Ta!

Gwen gleans, wending keen by the wikirindle.

Thanks for supporting my RfA, which went through 93/12/5. I'll be steadfast in this trust the en.Wikipedia community has given me. Cheers! Gwen Gale (talk) 01:11, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

critter

Hey wisdom- I've been asking around for awhile, but haven't received a straight answer, so, I was wondering if you might know what this thing is.

Wyatt915

Damn, what an odd looking critter, but then again, most ocean dwelling creatures are : ). Unfortunately I can't be more help than anybody else. The only thing I can say is that I'm almost certain it's a crustacean. Wisdom89 _{(T / ^C)} 02:15, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Co-coach

Hi there! I am still looking for a possible co-coach to co-coach me for adminship with User:Useight. If you are not busy, do you think you might be able to co-coach me? Thanks for the consideration, Razorflame 19:05, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Ryry5 just informed me that you actually aren't an administrator. Do you have any desire to be an administrator, because if you do, I am willing to nominate you. Cheers, Razorflame 19:20, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Someone doesn't have to be an admin to coach, and Wisdome would be more than qualified. Also, why are you still seeking a second coach, wasn't this already discussed ad nauseum before?Gwynand | Talk•Contribs 19:27, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

It wasn't discussed ad nauseum before (but it was discussed). I believe that the reason why I am looking for a second admin coach was so that I could get a second opinion on certain issues. Cheers, Razorflame 19:29, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

I would be more than happy to offer you suggestions and second opinions. Useight is a fine administrator/editor who I highly respect, and I have no doubt that anything he teaches you is top notch, high quality stuff. I'd feel a little strange "co-coaching" you for two reasons. 1.)I don't want to step on Useight's toes or second guess/undermine any recommendations he gives you and 2.)I recently went through the admin coaching program and discovered that it can hurt rather than help your RfA. I don't want to be a part of something that is going to discourage a potentially great admin (you) by participating in a program that has become slightly contentious. Drop me a link to the coaching page and I'll monitor it though. Cheers. Wisdom89 _{(T / ^C)} 19:38, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

User:Razorflame/Admin Coaching Razorflame 19:50, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Wisdom, I know what you mean about the recent thoughts on RFA candidates who were coached. But I would love to have you give some input every now and again on Razorflames' coaching page. Useight (talk) 20:23, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

UAA

I appreciate you responding to one of the reports at UAA. Would you mind helping out with some of the others reports to clean up the backlog? —BradV 02:09, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

RfA thank you spam

Hi there - thank you for supporting me in my RfA, which passed 69/10/3 yesterday. I will put the tools to good use and hopefully justify the confidence you had in me. Best wishes Fritzpoll (talk) 11:56, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Thrash metal

Dude, okay. I'm going to get the source for Blooddrunk that says that it is thrash. Partly at least - the melodic death metal is a given. But the main reason why I'm here on your page is to suggest a team. If you find the source before me, please go ahead and put it in the genre list. Think of it as friendly competition. Good luck, and cheers, Festering Rat Corpse (talk) 22:57, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

That's all I was getting at. I wasn't debating whether they were thrash or not (in fact, I agree with you regarding the new album), however, always best to have a source backing it up. If you discover one (and I'm sure you will) feel free to add it, but be sure to write from the reviewer's point of view. Later dude. Wisdom89 _{(T / ^C)} 23:31, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Your RfA comment

First, thanks for participating. Second, I'm sure someone will mention it, but I didn't actually undergo admin coaching. I talked to Balloonman about it and we decided it wouldn't be a good idea. "Cookie cutter admin" comes from Scarian's nomination, I believe. I don't think I'm a cookie cutter anything, but hey, this process is well out of my control. :) Enigma ^message 01:12, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Ah ok, I see what was being referenced. Still, I don't at all agree with the oppose, coaching or not. If you're fit, you're fit. I find it unacceptable to oppose a candidate because someone else wanted to get an idea of their Wiki-knowledge. Wisdom89 _{(T / ^C)} 01:20, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Nor I. I apologise for butting in, but I find it infuriating how people look down on those who have sought assistance from other editors in order to become better contributors. How can an adminship candidate possibly have been worsened by such a process? I am, in fact, in the process of drafting an essay on RfA (I would have tried to nab WP:ABF, but got beaten to it...) which I'd respectfully ask if you could read through before I make it the newest edition to my rather stagnant userspace. haz (talk) 15:48, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

An excellent question. I confess that I will likely never be able to explain some of the bizarre opposes at my RfA, particularly the one you're referencing. Enigma ^message 07:34, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Extermination order

Please explain this revert, where you claim I deleted text on Extermination order with out explaining. I gave a very detailed edit summary here which explained what I was doing. Please see "Wikipedia:Don't include copies of primary sources" for the reasons why we do not include the full text of a primary source here at WP; instead this material properly belongs at WP's sister project Wikisource. Since the text in question is currently found at wikisource (and is also better formated there too), there is no valid reason, based on WP guidelines, to include the full text of the in the Extermination order in that article. Likwise there is not reasonable reason for removing the valid wikisource link, as you did in your revert. If you disagree, this is a content issue, and not a vandalism discussion.-- 208.81.184.4 (talk) 18:01, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

BMJ letter

Hi, I was using an article in BMJ as source and found a letter to the editor referenced in the article. I am not sure if this letter to the editor of the British Medical Journal published in BMJ can be used as RS or not. As far as I know articles published in BMJ can be used as RS, but not sure about letters to the editor published in BMJ. Do you have any idea? Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 19:23, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

My Stupidity

Wisdom, thanks for your brief defense on H2O's RfA talk page... the stupidity wasn't trying to restore my personal integrity. If I had the same situation to do all over again, I would. The stupidity was in making the nom, when I knew that I only held non-nom support. I should have told H2O that up front when he asked to run. If I had begged off then, it might have hurt his RfA chances not to have his coach provide a nom, but it would have protected my integrity and the integrity of the process. Instead, I let a lapse in judgement, and a belief that while H2O should be an admin, that I could nominate him in good conscious. It's my nom that was stupid. Nothing else---oh wait, I probably shouldn't have opposed. I probably should have withdrawn my nom, but kept the support.---Balloonman ^PoppaBalloon 07:50, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Ref desk "Human biology"

This one was way too much quacking like a duck and waddling like a duck not to be one. The advice to get the textbook wasn't meant sarcastic. I myself tried making it through a semester of statistics without the textbook. (Way back when...) Now that one of the hats I sometimes put on is "instructor" I run into lots of students who assure me that next week they will definitely have the book. One of the methods educators use to drive the message of GTFB home is to assign homework that anyone who's going to open the book to the respective chapter is likely to find within a few seconds or minutes. The question chosen is usually some bit of fact that's not that apparent and not covered in class. If our OP was a teenager, searching online for sources might not be an option. Using a search engine would also not let OP practice skimming, which despite electronic text search tools, is still a vital skill for college and beyond. I could just have written "Do your own homework." and be done with it, but I figured elaborating a bit couldn't hurt. ... apparently it could :-( 76.111.32.200 (talk) 10:49, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Don't worry about it - I mistook your elaboration for sarcasm. My apologies my friend. It's just that I spend a lot of time at the science reference desk and way too often do I see legitimate curiosity based questions get shot down as "homework" related. That's all. I appreciate your explanation of the situation though. Cheers mate. Wisdom89 _{(T / ^C)} 15:40, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

List of people who have disappeared

Hi

Why the revert? [1] - I've unreverted and continued with what I was doing (moving red-link listings to the talk page) - if it all looks OK now, no need to reply. 203.189.129.129 (talk) 06:39, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Jesse Helms

Please reread the section you readded in. It is a separate section which disrupts the flow of the passage and consists mainly of quotes of Helms and Yeltsin which add nothing of encyclopedic value and are better summarised, and an overtly long trivia section relating to the senator not boarding KAL 007. These sections were added by a user who has spammed many articles with information about KAL 007, apparantly in support of a conspiracy theory that the survivors are still alive. I'm assuming you just picked this up on vandal fighter and assumed it was vandalism, so in the absence of a response I'll be making the edit again. 121.216.227.175 (talk) 06:18, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

I'm assuming you have no problem with it. Guycalledryan (talk) 06:39, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Note

Just letting you know you won't have any more issues with that IP, it's been taken care of. ;) Steve Crossin (talk)(email) 07:57, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Heh, thanks, I appreciate it. Guess my anti-vandalism work infuriated a few. Wisdom89 _{(T / ^C)} 09:06, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Heh, I sure know the feeling. You know you're doing a good job when.... you get vandalised so much your talk page gets semi protected for a week :P Steve Crossin (talk)(email) 09:11, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Resources for the Australian thrash metal page

Hi Wisdom89 - I'm working on getting those resources cited for the page "Australian thrash metal". Just give me a bit of time. Cheers for the clean-up.

- Kensane.

Of course, just doing my daily maintenance : ) Wisdom89 _{(T / ^C)} 09:07, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

WP:HAU

Hello yet again. I regretfully inform you that the bot we were using to update the user status at Wikipedia:Highly Active Users, SoxBot V, was blocked for its constant updating. With this bot out of operation, a patch is in the works. Until that patch is reviewed and accepted by the developers, some options have been presented to use as workarounds: 1) Qui monobook (not available in Internet Explorer); 2) User:Hersfold/StatusTemplate; 3) Manually updating User:StatusBot/Status/USERNAME; or 4) Not worry about it and wait for the patch to go through, which hopefully won't take long. If you have another method, you can use that, too. If you have any questions, feel free to contact me. Useight (talk) 18:01, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Yes, SoxBot V was approved here a few days before we began using it. Useight (talk) 22:10, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

It wasn't blocked by a regular admin, but by a developer. Useight (talk) 22:15, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Ah, ok that clarifies it abit. Thanks Useight. Wisdom89 _{(T / ^C)} 22:17, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

No problem. I'm only here to help. Useight (talk) 22:34, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Adoption

Hi Wisdom, I've been seeing your username nearly everywhere I go on this wikipedia, and I've been pretty much "winging it", though I was hoping that you might consider mentoring me (or at least be someone to whom I can ask occasional questions). Thanks for your time! --leahtwosaints (talk) 22:54, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Good Evening

User_talk:Dihydrogen_Monoxide#You're_awesome

Wisdom89, would you take the time to read my response in that section? I do not understand you're prior comment within that section regarding me. I hope after reading what I said, and assuming that I am an honest wikipeidan when I state such things, you will not gag at my contributions anymore.

I also posted similar sentiments to Al Tally, and Keeper who could, like you, be seen seemingly belittling me and my sentiment towards DHMO. I assure you that I do believe you guys just think I'm over reacting or acting in some self interest, which would account for "gag" replies. But I have faith that after I explained myself you might not. Thanks for reading and sorry for taking up your time with such trivial shit. Feel free to respond about all of this (if you do have a response) on my talk page, or on DHMO's page, in that section.

And Wisdom, I like your user page! Do you know of any tutorial on user pages that I could read (for wiki obviously!)? If not, should I just look at the raw syntax for user pages I like and try to figure it out? Thanks!!! Beam 02:13, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Dude, that was just a joke, don't worry about it. Sorry for that not being clearer, I was just going for humor. I supported you on another thread : ) Wisdom89 _{(T / ^C)} 02:55, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

RFA Thanks

Wisdom, I wanted to thank you for your recent participation in my RFA. I have to admit that there were some issues with the CSD tagging. Note I've taken steps to address these concerns with an in-depth RFA analysis that touches especially on this CSD issue. As an admin, I'm going to be much more thorough in reviewing an article before ultimately hitting that delete button (or not hitting it - for that matter). anyhow, your comments would be welcome at the analysis page. i've also left you some templated thank-spam below. p.s. no need to feel bad about having to switch to oppose - i respect and understand your reasons. xenocidic (talk) 03:49, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

templated rfa thank-spam

Thank you for your support

So...how do I use these things? ;>

I would like to thank the community for placing their trust in me during my recent request for adminship, which passed 72 13 2 . Rest assured, I have read each comment thoroughly and will be addressing the various concerns raised as I step cautiously into my new role as janitor. In particular, I would like to thank Balloonman for putting so much time into reviewing my contributions and writing such a thoughtful nomination statement after knowing me for only a brief period of time (and for convincing me that I was ready to take up the mop now, rather than go through admin coaching).

To my fellow admins - please let me know right away if I ever take any mis-steps with my new tools. Should I make a mistake, and you reverse the action, I will not consider it to be wheel-warring (but please tell me so I can understand what I did wrong).

To everyone - please feel free to slap me around a bit if I ever lose sight of the core philosophy of Wikipedia as I understand it - the advancement of knowledge through the processes of mutual understanding and respect. As always, feel free to drop by my talk page if I can be of any assistance. =)

Sincerely,

~xenocidic, 01:04, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Offended - not at all - I've come to respect your contributions to the RFA process and I know you wouldn't have done that without deep deliberation. No hard feelings whatsoever. Truthfully, I didn't expect to be at RFA so soon, I really did want some coaching on the CSD stuff - but no matter. I'll have to learn on the job =) xenocidic (talk) 04:42, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Barn Star

		The Guidance Barnstar
		This is a little something for your work on the newbies help page, Keep it up! ·Ãḍď§ђɸŗЄ· Talk 17:21, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Why thank you Addshore, nice of you to recognize my input : ) I shall keep up with my newbie mentoring. Wisdom89 _{(T / ^C)} 19:13, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

You deserve it and also yes do keep it up, you are very good at it ^^. If you ever need any other random help and you think I might be able to help please drop me a message ·Ãḍď§ђɸŗЄ· ^Talk 19:24, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Smile

This edit makes me laugh, hope it makes you giggle. — Realist² (Come Speak To Me) 05:46, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Hehe, constantly monitoring the britney spears article always seems to put a smile on my face : ) Thanks! Wisdom89 _{(T / ^C)} 05:48, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Oh, its on your watchlist, rather you than me lol. ;-) — Realist² (Come Speak To Me) 05:51, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks from leahtwosaints

Hey Wisdom, where do you prefer answers from messages on my talk page? You left a response to a request there, but you seem busy, so here's my answer :) THANKS for offering to help me out. If "official" adoption has any perks for either party, then, sure, I'd be honored if you adopted me. Otherwise, now that I know it's OK, I'll continue to ask questions of you. I generally work on roots music biography pages, but have spent time as nearly the only author of a page for Martie Maguire, one of the Dixie Chicks. (It's getting better but has some improvements needed.) --leahtwosaints (talk) 10:45, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

NEW TOPIC

SORRY...Not sure how to post a new comment. Please, what is "Winkie?" Appreciated your contribution to the recent feature on CAD and cholesterol. drnovlamas2 (drdrdrdc@aol.com)

THANKS. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Drnovlamas2 (talk • contribs) 15:15, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

My RfA

Thank you for your comment and concern on my currently-running RfA. I have posted a response to your concern, should you like to review it. Regards, --InDeBiz1 Review me! | Talk to me! 03:20, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

My RfA

Hello, Wisdom89, and thank you for your recent participation in my RfA, which was closed per WP:NOTNOW after reaching a vote tally of 5/15/2. While I am disappointed in the outcome, I understand that it - as well as the comments left by yourself and others - was in the best interests of Wikipedia at this time. I plan to take everything that was written to heart and improve myself here on Wikipedia with a goal of perhaps accepting a nomination again in the future, should someone choose to nominate me. As a way of gathering further feedback, I have created a page in my user space for other editors to leave comments about things that they might have observed during my RfA and to continue my "education process," as it may be considered. If you would like to contribute to that page, it may be found here. Again, thank you for participating and I appreciate your comments! --InDeBiz1 (talk) 17:41, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Verbose

Nobody has ever accused me of being short on words ;-) ---Balloonman ^PoppaBalloon 18:54, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Heh, just stating the obvious, although "verbose" carries a negative connotation. Let's just say "lengthy". Hey, I read the whole thing : ) Wisdom89 _{(T / ^C)} 18:55, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

My RFB

Thank you for your kind words. I, too, have seen many RFBs, and you're dead on, they're intense. I wish my unsuccessful RFA a year ago had been successful so I'd meet the one year thing, the absence of which may indeed be the reason that brings my RFB down (but hopefully the only reason), as I feel I meet the other requirements. I'm just here to help out in any way I can. I really only have two purposes on Wikipedia: 1) Improve the encyclopedia; and 2) Help others improve the encyclopedia. Useight (talk) 23:06, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Man, only if words would sell you 100%, you'd be a crat. : ) Not saying they're empty, saying they're succinct and spot on. Wisdom89 _{(T / ^C)} 00:18, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Any advice for a new wikipedian?

Hey Wisdom89, I'm relatively new to wikipedia. The other day I stumbled across your user page and found it quite impressive, to say the least. Do you have any advice for a new wikipedia user? Any help would be greatly appreciated. LittleAlien¹⁸² _{--talk trash--} 23:51, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

My reply is here. Wisdom89 _{(T / ^C)} 00:23, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the advice! LittleAlien¹⁸² _{--talk trash--} 23:14, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Hey Wisdom, I'm not sure if this is the correct place to ask an additional question, but I thought I'd give it a try here before I create an entirely new thread on your current talk page. I was just wondering if there is any neat-and-easy way to make graphs and charts on wikipedia. It's seem like there is a wealth of resources that allow you to make tables, but I can't really find an easy way to make a graph. Any suggestions? Thanks!!! ŁittleÄlien¹⁸² (_talk\^contribs) 07:09, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

How Can I find Infoboxes?

Hey Wisdom, I need to find those little Infoboxes for Musicians' biographies (like the one on the top right of Martie Maguire). I need to start (at least stubs of) pages for a couple of individual musicians in The Derek Trucks Band who as yet have no page. In addition, I need to create pages for a couple of songs. Where are these infoboxes found? It's frustrating! Help? Thanks. --leahtwosaints (talk) 06:03, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

My Rfa

Thanks, Wisdom89, for participating in my recent RfA, which recently passed with 81 support and 1 neutral !votes. I appreciate all the support and constructive criticism offered in my RfA and I thank you for taking the time to !vote in my nomination. I feel so honoured to be trusted by so many of you and please, if you have any advice, comments or complaints about my actions as an administrator, leave a note on my talk page. I would also like to thank Acalamari, Rlevse and Nishkid64, for their nomination statements. Thank you again. AngelOfSadness talk 23:18, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Hmms

Speaking of my thoughtless RFA votes, there's just been a conversation on my talk page that you may or may not find interesting. Probably not, now I come to think of it, but I feel like I should give myself at least a little defence, entitled to your opinion though you are. Naerii - Talk 01:53, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Watchlist numbers

Nah, I just tested it out. When I added "test" to my talk page, it said I added +5. I thought maybe it counted the space also, so I added "1234567" and it said +2. Can't be characters. Useight (talk) 06:02, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

I'll be sure to grill you on this extraordinarily important detail on your next RFA. :P Useight (talk) 06:06, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

I'll just opt not to answer it so it'll garner a few dozen opposes! Wisdom89 _{(T / ^C)} 06:07, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

The unfortunate part is that that is sometimes not too much of an exaggeration. Useight (talk) 06:13, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Courtesy Notification regarding my recall criteria

Hiya. Just a courtesy note to say I've named you as one of the editors that I would accept a request for recall from. There's nothing onerous about it, and you don't have to do anything. It's simply to let you know that as I have added myself to CAT:AOR I needed some unfussed criteria for recall, and I believe your judgement fits that criteria neatly. Thanks! Pedro :  Chat  10:38, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

My RFB

Thank you for your comments in my RFB. Since it was only at 64%, it was a shoo-in to be unsuccessful, so I withdrew. I didn't want it to run until its scheduled close time because my intent in standing for RFB was to help the bureaucrats with their workload, not give them one more RfX to close. Through the course of my RFB, I received some very valuable feedback, some of it was contradictary, but other points were well agreed upon. I have ceased my admin coaching for now to give me time to revamp my method. I don't want to give up coaching completely, but I'm going to find a different angle from which to approach it. As for my RFA Standards, I am going to do some deep intraspection. I wrote those standards six months ago and I will slowly retool them. This will take some time for me to really dig down and express what I want in an admin candidate. If, after some serious time of deep thought, I don't find anything to change in them, I'll leave them the way they are. I'm not going to change them just because of some community disagreement as to what they should be. Will I stand for RFB again in the future? I don't know. Perhaps some time down the road, when my tenure as an administrator is greater than one year, if there is a pressing need for more active bureaucrats, maybe. If there no pressing need, then maybe not. Useight (talk) 02:59, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Firefoxman 3

You asked me a question down in the Neutral section of this RFA over 24 hours ago and I just now noticed and answered it, if you'd care to take a look. I thought I'd just send you a quick note about it since it had been so long since you asked the question. Useight (talk) 03:32, 14 June 2008 (UTC)