User talk:Wilkyisdashiznit

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Giant Killers

I noticed an AfD discussion was linked to the OSU page but unfortunately it was after it had already ended so I didn't get a chance to look at the article. Depending on how much information exists I think they could probably qualify as their own article. For sure it should be mentioned on the OSU beavers page though (thanks for the compliment about that too), which I am planning on expanding. I'm thinking the best option might be to make a page called Oregon State Beavers football and have it as an expanded version of what we have in the football section of the beavers page, that could mention the Giant Killers, the team that only allowed 4 points in 3 seasons, and some other great historical beaver moments. Making that page is on my long list of things to do. Right now I have been trying to expand List of Oregon State University people and write articles on the people linked there that don't have one yet, with the eventual goal of it being a featured list. Perhaps you could help there. VegaDark 19:37, 7 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Historical vs. current logos

I've undone your re-addition of the historically inaccurate logos to a number of Oregon State Beavers football team pages. To place the now current logo on those articles is historically revisionist and an inaccurate representation of that team. It would be akin to referring to the Baltimore Colts as the Indianapolis Colts. Organizationally, yes it is the same team. In reality, the identities are entirely different. Applying a current logo to the past changes history. We are not a marketing platform; we are an encyclopedia. I understand you can't find a logo from the 1940 team. That doesn't mean we have permission to modify history to make the current logo the logo of the team from 1940. Note that the logo from the time period 1973 to 1985 is available on the project. Since you seem to be a fan of Oregon, perhaps you are local to them and can contact them for older logos? --Hammersoft (talk) 16:40, 6 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I've re-re-added logos. I placed the "1973-1985" logo on each of the pre-1988 pages. Wikipedia indicates that the logo was first used in 1951. I am unsure that a "logo" pre se was used prior to that time. As I put on each of the pages, I would be happy if you found a pre-1951 logo. I will use it on those pages. I disagree with your analogy. The logo for the Colts is much the same in Baltimore as it is in Indy. The identities and organization are the same. They just moved. Applying a current logo to the past does not change history. It better explains history, like putting current borders on a map of the past. A map of 1837 Europe with current borders violates your rules, but it is profoundly helpful to understand the past for the average person. We are an encyclopedia. Our goal is to educate. If a present logo helps people better understand what a page is about, I will use a present logo. I don't think the Oregon State pages should be your primary concern. As you can see, I try to use historically accurate names for things. I am sure there are bigger fish to fry. Wilkyisdashiznit (talk) 05:59, 7 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I was referring to the Baltimore Colts as the Indianapolis Colts, not the logo. The analogy stands. I don't have access to the university archives for Oregon State. Perhaps you do. In the absence of finding the older logo(s), putting a more modern logo is historical revisionism. Your analogy fails because we're not juxtaposing the current logo with a past logo. We're applying the current logo as if it is the logo of the then current team. To continue your analogy, you're asking us to accept a modern map of Europe as the map of Europe in 1837. Educating people does not include teaching them that the current logo of this team was the logo in 1960, or 1956, or 1940, or any other year for which the logo was not used by the team. I'm not going to ignore this issue because you think there are bigger fish to fry. I've re-removed the logos, and will report the issue to WP:AN/I if the historical revisionism continues. Further, your re-addition of the logos was directly against our policy at WP:NFCC #10c, as you did not provide any rationale for the use of File:BennyBeaver.jpg on those pages. Thank you, --Hammersoft (talk) 17:02, 8 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I don't have access to the university archives for Oregon State. Wikipedia indicates that the "1973-1985" logo was first used by the university in 1951. As a compromise, I am adding the logo to pages between 1951 and 1973 but leaving it off of 1950 and before. I still believe that putting the 1951-1985 logo is the most accurate logo I have seen for pre-1951 but, as always, feel free to disagree. Wilkyisdashiznit (talk) 19:40, 27 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

College football team season pages

Wilkyisdashiznit, how are you? I noticed that you have recently created a number of college football team season pages, particularly for Oregon State, and I want to bring a number of style and formatting points to your attention. Take, 1939 Oregon State Beavers football team, for example...

1) Capitalization of section headers: the P in "Team Players drafted into in the NFL" should not be capitalized. Only the first word and proper nouns should be capitalized in section titles.

2) Navigation boxes in footer: the NCAA college football seasons and Pacific-10 Conference (Pac-10) nav boxes aren't needed in the footer of this article and it's a bit of overkill to include them. Generally speaking, I would limit nav boxes for a given article to ones that include that article as an item within, e.g. Oregon State Beavers football, which indeed belongs.

3) Schedule templates: for the schedule table, you ought to consider employing the schedule templates that have become the standard for college football pages. See 2005 Michigan Wolverines football team for a good example.

4) Champion/bowl listings in infoboxes: the |Champion field ought to be reserved for national, conference, and division championships. It's a bit redundant to list bowl champions there since |BowlTourney and |BowlTourneyResult convey bowl participation and victory.

I've been working on cleaning up all the college football team seasons pages and aligning them with a standard format. I've done a lot of work on the Big Ten and SEC, but have only scratched the surface on the other conferences so far. It would be a big help if you could keep these style and formatting points in mind as you create new team pages.

Thanks for all your good work! Jweiss11 (talk) 20:08, 9 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hanno the Navigator

This article started as BCE. The only use of BC was in links and a category. According to WP:ERA it shouldn't have been changed, so I've replaced BCE. Also, please don't use edit summaries to implicitly attack other editors. Thanks. Dougweller (talk) 11:14, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Apparently, I didn't research enough to determine which way the article was originally drafted. I do not attempt to attack other editors, but I do attack the BCE/CE convention, because it is meaningless and more obtuse than the BC/AD convention. 1 CE is only one CE because a sixth century monk miscalculated Jesus Christ's birth. I try to think of myself as a pragmatist. Eventually, someone will propose a scheme that will make more sense than either convention. If any editor believes I am personally attacking them, I apologize. I am only opposed to the BCE/CE convention.Wilkyisdashiznit (talk) 06:14, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, but there's no point in attacking it. It's used even by Christian theologians. Dougweller (talk) 11:28, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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List of most-played college football rivalries in NCAA Division I

The List of most-played college football rivalries in NCAA Division I article lists rivalry series, not merely a frequently-played series. The inclusion criteria is that the series is a rivalry. You have reinserted Wash-OSU and WSU-OSU series [1] (with no edit summary), [2] (again with no edit summary).

I have again removed this (and similar content) with edit summaries [3] "series not identified as rivalries", [4] "game/series results do not establish a rivalry". As your most recent edit does not establish either as a rivalry, it has been reverted. You may wish to read WP:V. UW Dawgs (talk) 21:20, 19 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I have cited to an article that the Oregon State-Washington rivalry is, in fact, a rivalry, because duh. Oregon State is Washington's oldest rival in the Northwest, predating the Huskies' rivalries with Oregon and Washington State. I also added a cite to an article, which refers to Oregon State-Washington State as a rivalry.Wilkyisdashiznit (talk) 22:16, 27 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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I have cited to an article that the Oregon State-Washington rivalry is, in fact, a rivalry, because duh. Oregon State is Washington's oldest rival in the Northwest, predating the Huskies' rivalries with Oregon and Washington State. I also added a cite to an article, which refers to Oregon State-Washington State as a rivalry.Wilkyisdashiznit (talk) 22:16, 27 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello, friend!

I recently came across your excellent work on 1941 Oregon State Beavers football team. You made a single massive edit in 2018 that added game-by-game accounts, but the section is unfootnoted. I was wondering if you might consider revisiting it and adding a few footnotes, where applicable. Thank you again for your excellent work! Carrite (talk) 06:25, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]