User talk:Wikiwriter43103840
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Thank you! Wikiwriter43103840 (talk) 05:33, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
- Hello Wikiwriter43103840. You have reverted my changes to the Re-evaluation Counseling page with minimal explanation. The changes I made gave a number of reasons. Like you, I am fairly new to Wikipedia editing, but I think we need to engage in conversation on the Re-evaluation Counseling Talk page. Many of the changes you have made have been canvassed on that page earlier, I believe. I look o=forward to hearing form you Shawjonathan (talk) 03:34, 22 November 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you, I am very glad to engage in conversation. Having been involved with the group for over a decade, I am trying to make the wiki page not read like an advertisement for them, while also trying to maintain objectivity. I do welcome your suggestions. Wikiwriter43103840 (talk) 03:55, 22 November 2022 (UTC)
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Notice of Arbitration Enforcement noticeboard discussion
[edit]Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a report involving you at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement regarding a possible violation of an Arbitration Committee decision. The thread is Wikiwriter43103840. Thank you. tgeorgescu (talk) 13:48, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
You should learn from your experience at WP:AE. Making the same mistake is not tolerated for ever. tgeorgescu (talk) 02:54, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
March 2024
[edit]Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did at Naturopathy. Your edits appear to be disruptive and have been or will be reverted.
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Please ensure you are familiar with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines, and please do not continue to make edits that appear disruptive. Continued disruptive editing may result in loss of editing privileges. Thank you. ScienceFlyer (talk) 00:15, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- What was disruptive? I added to the article and followed all rules. Wikiwriter43103840 (talk) 03:26, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- Reasons:
- WP:MEDRS strongly dissuades claims based solely upon WP:PRIMARY medical studies;
- WP:PARITY says that for WP:FRINGE topics, WP:RS of lesser prestige are allowed, so long as they're written by debunkers;
- WP:FRINGE, WP:PSCI, WP:GEVAL, and WP:REDFLAG;
- as well as noticing that some basic concepts of naturopathy are not empirically operationalizable, so they are not even wrong. tgeorgescu (talk) 03:56, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- I cited studies published by the World Health Organization and NIHS. These are third party reviews not primary medical studies, and they are both certainly reputable mainstream sources. I did not make any exceptional claims so I don’t see why you are citing red flag. Wikiwriter43103840 (talk) 02:02, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- Reasons:
Following up on my comments from that article Talk page, I strongly encourage you, @Wikiwriter43103840:, to read Wikipedia's policy about personal attacks (here) and to stop expressing opinions about other editors. Your comments on that page about another editor(s), including but not restricted to You are unkind
and I’m not sure why you seem to have it out for me
, are both unhelpful/disruptive to the discussion (see WP:TPG) and inappropriate. Although an experienced editor like @Tgeorgescu: is likely to perceive those rebukes as so puny as to fall below their threshold for response, the comments can nevertheless be easily interpreted as personal attacks. As you will learn from reading WP:PA, engaging in personal attacks, especially on an article Talk page, can get you blocked from editing. No one wants that to happen, so please stop it. If you have any questions about the personal attack policy, you can ask them here, on my Talk page, or at a helpful Wikipedia forum like the Tea House. JoJo Anthrax (talk) 07:13, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
CS1 error on Central Conference of American Rabbis
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An answer to your question at Talk:Naturopathy
[edit]In response to this post of yours, I will try to provide you with a potential explanation, using two comments earlier posted to that discussion. All that follows is no more than my interpretation of the situation.
In the first post of that section User:Tryptofish wrote about your desired edits as introduced a false balance and may not have consensus
, and later User:tgeorgescu addressed your desired content by writing NPOV isn't half-way between science and pseudoscience
. Therein lies, in my opinion, the bases of why your proposed content was considered (in your words) "not encyclopedic." In the first, Tryptofish is referring to two Wikipedia policies: the requirement that articles have a neutral point of view and the role of consensus among editors for determining article content. If you aren't already familiar with those policies, please click on those two links and read them. I emphasize the word policy because both WP:NPOV and WP:CONSENSUS are precisely that: fundamental, long-established rules through which article content is determined, and which are not up for debate/discussion/argument, at least not on article Talk pages. In the second, tgeorgecu is referring to two subsections of the WP:NPOV policy: WP:GEVAL and WP:PSCI, which (briefly) explain that fringe/pseudoscientific opinions are not given the same emphasis/weight/consideration in Wikipedia articles as those derived from reliably-sourced, mainstream scientific sources. Your desired edits emphasized fringe/pseudoscientific opinions at the expense of the scientific mainstream, your desired content was (correctly) predicted to be unlikely to achieve consensus among editors at the article Talk page, and your persistence in promoting that content reflected a seeming (and common) misinterpretation of WP:NPOV as meaning that "neutrality" allows fringe material to be given as much attention/weight as non-fringe material. You do not have to agree with or like that analysis, but the fact of the matter is that consensus is against your desired content. For what it is worth, you are not alone: every editor has, at some point(s), desired content that does not achieve consensus.
I hope this helps to answer your question. If not, all I can additionally suggest (I'm unlikely to comment further) is that you consult with other editors at the Teahouse, or perhaps at WP:FTN, which is the Wikipedia noticeboard for all matters touching on fringe topics. JoJo Anthrax (talk) 16:30, 12 March 2024 (UTC)