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Rules of chess

I saw your addition to the rules of chess about time runing out while being one move away from checkmate. I can't find this in either the FIDE rules or the USCF rules. Can you give the rule number? Bubba73 ^{(You talkin' to me?)}, 04:54, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, I guess it was a mistake. This was a rule my chess tutor (who is a grandmaster) taught me. I looked for it online just now and I actually found a USCF rule that contradicts it. I think it would be alright to say rule is used in some tournaments. If you disagree, you may change this or remove it completely. --- Wikitiki89 (talk) - 06:13, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Yes, the closest thing I could find about it is in the USCF rulebook, rule 14G1 says that if both flags are down before checkmate, it is a draw. Bubba73 ^{(You talkin' to me?)}, 07:01, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

There is a rule that if a player's time runs out and there are insufficient chances that he would lose, it is a draw. Bubba73 ^{(You talkin' to me?)}, 07:07, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

I was under the impression that "insufficient losing chances" was something you had to claim, and that you had to claim it before your time runs out. The rules described here don't mention a possibility of claiming a draw after the time runs out. (But I gather that Bubba73 is a tournament director, while I am not so I'll defer to him.) Regarding checkmate on the next move, if player A is forced to checkmate player B on the next move but oversteps the time limit, the game is drawn because no sequence of legal moves leads to player A being checkmated, however it is very rare that a player is forced to checkmate the opponent. --Sjakkalle (Check!) 08:21, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

"Insufficient losing chances" is a USCF rule and is in contrast to the FIDE rule. It has to be in a sudden death time control and the player has to claim it when he has less than 2 minutes left, but before his time runs out, Bubba73 ^{(You talkin' to me?)}, 16:02, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

I'm with Sjakkalle on it's something you had to claim. SunCreator (talk) 16:04, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

There is a condition where I think you are right about checkmate on the next move, see "Insufficient losing chances" section on my talk page. Bubba73 ^{(You talkin' to me?)}, 16:14, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

Chicken Dance

Hi! I notice you tagged Chicken Dance as self contradictory. I can certainly agree it's not well written, but I can't see a contradiction. As such, I've removed the tag, but if I've missed it, feel free to put the tag back with a note on the talk page. Cheers -- WORMMЯOW  13:27, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Good work

I noticed you added vowels to a word in the lead of Ketubah. That is a good thing you are doing. Many more articles could use your help in this. Debresser (talk) 09:03, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

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Book of Ezekiel

Hi Wikitiki89, Til Eulenspiegel and Student7 - Grace and Peace! Might I invite you to the discussion topic I've started on the Book of Ezekiel talk page regarding the use of 'God' vs 'YHWH' in this article. You all clearly have knowledge of and passion for the subject and I would really appreciate seeing that harnessed into a new section. Wikipedia covers well the 'Yahwist'/'Elohist' source ideas that arise in higher criticism, but there is little on how the use of different references to the Deity has been interpreted through succeeding generations of Rabbinic and Christian interpretation. The Book of Ezekiel has its own emphasis here, particularly in the use of 'Lord GOD', so it's as good a place to start as any, and your collective enthusiasm makes you the ideal team! ;) For what it's worth, I come from a conservative Christian position, well-read but formally untaught in Theology. Blessings of Hannukah just past and Christmas about to come!John M Brear (talk) 09:51, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, and merry Christmas to you! BTW, I replied at Talk:Book of Ezekiel. --- Wikitiki89 (talk) - 19:44, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

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You think that the status of the West Bank is entirely irrelevant in an article about a media organization that represents the views of the Israeli settler movement living in the occupied West Bank. Why ? It's entirely relevant, it was deemed relevant by the cited reliable source and it's not at all like Paris. If it wasn't occupied and administered by the military as a territory under belligerent occupation, Arutz Sheva wouldn't be there. Sean.hoyland - talk 19:03, 29 March 2014 (UTC)

All of the necessary connotation is supplied by the word "settlement". The Israeli settlements in the West Bank are where many people who would support Arutz Sheva choose to live. It is only natural that they would set up a studio among these people. Whether Arutz Sheva would have a studio in the West Bank if the West Bank weren't "occupied and administered by the military as a territory under belligerent occupation" is POV speculation. --- Wikitiki89 (talk) - 19:10, 29 March 2014 (UTC)

If all of the necessary connotation were supplied by the word "settlement" the RS cited would not have regarded it as necessary to supply the words "the occupied territories". You are making a content decision based on the premise that you are a reliable source. The reasoning is also a slippery slope. Similar reasoning could be used to argue that the combined attributes of being Israeli and in the West Bank indicate that it must be a settlement. The word settlement is therefore unnecessary and can be replaced by the word city, village etc. These are the kind of methods used to engineer language in the WP:ARBPIA topic area to move article content away from the language used by RS that we are supposed to reflect, towards the language preferred by organizations that advocate for the State of Israel. The premise that a reader can reliably derive information about the status of the West Bank from the term "settlement" is certainly not the case in my experience. Many readers are apparently misinformed about the status of the West Bank. Edits that treat Israeli settlements as if they are in Israel rather than the Israeli occupied territories are commonplace. Sean.hoyland - talk 04:18, 30 March 2014 (UTC)

Well there's a difference between "misinformation" and "a belief other than yours". I'm not going to argue that the West Bank is not occupied, but I will say that there are people who believe this and not because they are misinformed, but because they have a different point of view. So essentially what you are saying is that if these people make "edits that treat Israeli settlements as if they are in Israel rather than the Israeli occupied territories" then the solution is to add the word occupied to every article that mentions the West Bank? Back to the more important point about sources, this source in particular does not use the term "occupied West Bank", but "occupied territories". The only mention of "West Bank" in the source is the following quote from the Introduction (page xiii): "[…] in the areas occupied by Israeli military forces […]—in particular the West Bank of the Jordan River and the Gaza Strip […]". In other words, it uses West Bank, to define part of the occupied territories. I can find sources that use the words "West Bank" to describe the location of Arutz Sheva's studio, but none that say "occupied West Bank" (that doesn't mean that none exist, I just can't find them). --- Wikitiki89 (talk) - 04:57, 30 March 2014 (UTC)

You misunderstand. My belief, the only one that matters, is that Wikipedia content is built from reliable sources using documented decision procedures. What I believe about the real world doesn't matter. So, while I agree that there's a difference between "misinformation" and "a belief other than yours", misinformation in this context is information that is inconsistent with policy, information that is wrong from a Wikipedia perspective no matter what I think about it. My solution is certainly not to 'add the word occupied to every article that mentions the West Bank'. In fact, I have removed occupied as a prefix to West Bank from several articles when it has been redundant given the context. Either way, I see that removing this word is important enough for you to violate 1RR over it and edit without gaining consensus. I shall leave you to it then because my continued involvement seems likely to cause you to commit editing suicide by getting yourself blocked or topic banned and I'm not going to help you do that. Sean.hoyland - talk 06:23, 30 March 2014 (UTC)

It looks like you misunderstood me as well. My latest revert was based only on evidence from the sources, as was the latter half of the argument in my previous post here, which I think was important than the former half, yet you failed to respond to it. I am not familiar with all of Wikipedia's policies, so if I am breaking any rules, it's news to me. I always thought the rule was three reverts, and so far I have made two. --- Wikitiki89 (talk) - 06:32, 30 March 2014 (UTC)

Okay, all articles related to the 'Arab-Israeli' conflict 'broadly construed' are covered by WP:1RR. It's part of the discretionary sanctions that cover the WP:ARBPIA topic area. Sometimes this will be indicated by a header on the talk page, sometimes it won't. If you are unaware of this restriction that's okay, but bear it in mind in future whenever you edit an article or content within an article (even just one sentence) that could be considered (by admins) to be within scope of the WP:ARBPIA topic area's restrictions. It should at least be clear to you that you do not have consensus for your change and therefore should not be imposing it on the article. I didn't respond on the content issue because I don't think anything I say will affect your view. You believe that the status of the West Bank is entirely irrelevant in an article about a settler media organization based in the West Bank, you believe that the status can be derived from the word "settlement", you reject the approach used by a book published by University of Illinois Press (e.g. you could have followed the source and used the term 'the occupied territories) and instead have cited a book written by a partisan author published by WorldNetDaily. WorldNetDaily is not treated as a reliable source for facts in Wikipedia and has been discussed many times (see Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard/Archive_62#WORLD_NET_DAILY_final_answer_needed for example). Sean.hoyland - talk 07:04, 30 March 2014 (UTC)

Ok, thanks for the explanation of the policy. Regarding the sources, again you did not respond to what I said. The source that was there (which you consider to be reliable) uses the word "West Bank" to refer to a subset of the "occupied territories". "West Bank" is more specific than "occupied territories", so changing to the latter would be removing information. The source I added may be considered "not generally acceptable as a source for factual material", but that does not make it unreliable for terminological material. Anyway, if the fact that the West Bank is occupied is relevant to the article, then this relevance should be mentioned in the article, rather than just slipping in the word "occupied" where it doesn't belong. I have attempted to do this in my most recent edit to the article. --- Wikitiki89 (talk) - 07:22, 30 March 2014 (UTC)

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This is the only way I could contact you. This is a wiktionary issue.

You're making obnoxious rollbacks of correct edits, such as those on the glucinum and Baha'i Faith page. Would you care explaining why you continuously redact correct (and verified) information? BedrockPerson (talk) 14:29, 15 November 2016 (UTC)

Because all your edits are careless, sloppy, and misleading, even if they happen to be based on real information. --- Wikitiki89 (talk) - 16:17, 15 November 2016 (UTC)

I fail to see how adding a translation and an etymology according to the correct formatting rules is sloppy, careless, or misleading. What was careless and sloppy was you mass-reverting a number of correct edits, evidently without even looking at a single one. BedrockPerson (talk) 16:18, 15 November 2016 (UTC)

If you are talking about your edit to “Baha'i Faith”, the transliteration was incorrect. I was going to fix it but hadn't had time yet. So in the meantime, I reverted it. Please don't make edits in languages that you clearly have very little knowledge of. I looked at every single edit I reverted, in fact, if you had been paying close enough attention, you would have noticed that there were a few edits I did not revert. --- Wikitiki89 (talk) - 16:22, 15 November 2016 (UTC)

Point on the Bahai page conceded. Glucinum's issue still stands. Referring to your newest argument, I went back to my contributions, and found the opposite. You also reverted correct edits from the Yahweh page on the grounds that I was 'untrustworthy'. Even Bing Translate will tell you each of the translations were accurate, with the possible exception of the Burmese entry (may translate to Lord) BedrockPerson (talk) 16:26, 15 November 2016 (UTC)

The fact that you think Bing Translate is a trustworthy source is exactly why you are untrustworthy. --- Wikitiki89 (talk) - 16:28, 15 November 2016 (UTC)

That's the idea. It's called making a point, bub. Speaking of, let's go back to the Moses incident. You know, the one that got me blocked. Here's your first edit claiming that I had no source and that my Egyptian wasn't correct. Wherein, I linked not only to the wiktionary pages that proved my definitions were correct, but also an additional source to supplement my point. You claimed this source proved nothing, seemingly missing the entirety of the passage in question:

"...for the Egyptians call water mou and those who are saved. These two terms are transcriptions of the Coptic words for "water" and "saved". With regard to an Egyptian etymolgy of the name Moses we may add that Moses may be based on msw, "child of..." ...thus, Moses would mean "Child of the Nile" (mw-se)"

It seems in your hurry to correct what you supposed what was erroneous information, you missed the entirety of what was correct. Thoughts? BedrockPerson (talk) 16:35, 15 November 2016 (UTC)

All it says there is that this is the opinion of Abraham H. Yahuda and that Rivka Ulmer agrees with it, which is only two people. Also, the transliterated Egyptian word given was mw-še, not mw-se or mw-s3. In fact I'm not even sure what is meant by e, which is not a symbol used in any transliteration system of Ancient Egyptian, but the source makes clear that še is meant to mean "pond, lake, expanse of water", with mw meaning "water, seed" and thus "child". --- Wikitiki89 (talk) - 16:50, 15 November 2016 (UTC)

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Again, this is the only way I could contact you.

Yeah sorry about coming back to this issue yet again but I was wondering if I could possibly appeal my ban from Wiktionary. I don't know if there's a protocol against it considering the block time I was given was set for my specific kind of offense but I really want to continue improving the wiki, and while I acknowledge I was disruptive with my editing I feel six months is a bit steep. If there's a zero tolerance thing in place for this sort of thing I understand. Thanks. BedrockPerson (talk) 13:18, 28 November 2016 (UTC)

It's not that there is zero tolerance. It's that this is a pattern with you. This is not your first block. If you want to contribute, wait out the six months and then don't repeat your mistakes. To clarify, you were not blocked for the content you added, but for the persistent edit warring. If you think a reversion of your edit is unjustified, please discuss it rather than repeating the edit. --- Wikitiki89 (talk) - 16:01, 28 November 2016 (UTC)

Are you serious?

Well, I'd put this on Wiktionary where it belongs but, what a surprise, incompetence strikes again! And again! And again!! Not only do you undo all of my edits which added completely undisruptive, true, completely verified, information, but then you permablock me from Wiktionary because I "Keeps adding the same untrustworthy information", in the first edits I've made in three damn months????? Not to mention the first times I've made these edits, PERIOD. Are you fucking serious? Do you even know what half of the words you've used mean?? @Kiwima: @Robbie SWE: @PierreAbbat: How is this even remotely fair to me? BedrockPerson (talk) 18:32, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

If you wanted to talk about the content, I would have discussed it with you. But repeating the same edits you were blocked for previously is not constructive behavior. --- Wikitiki89 (talk) - 18:46, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

• If you want to contest your block on Wiktionary where it belongs, then add the {{unblock}} to your talkpage there. You should still be able to edit your own talkpage. --- Wikitiki89 (talk) - 18:53, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

That would be valid IF I REPEATED A SINGLE ONE OF THE EDITS I WAS BLOCKED FOR. HOW THE FUCK BedrockPerson (talk) 20:11, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

Look familiar? --- Wikitiki89 (talk) - 20:20, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

Are you serious? That wasn't even me! Why the fuck would you just assume that??? And even if that was, HOW THE FUCK DOES THAT GIVE YOU AN IOTA OF THE PROPER PRECEDENT TO UNDO ALL THE OTHER FUCKING EDITS?
I know the all-caps looks very unprofessional but I am legitimately livid. BedrockPerson (talk) 22:04, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

Oh come on don't kid yourself. And you may find it hard to believe but I actually reserched every one of those reverts before reverting. Because... you know... even a broken clock is right two times a day. --- Wikitiki89 (talk) - 00:00, 26 May 2017 (UTC)

Bull. If you researched a single one you would've seen I was correct. Look up Gerhsom. See what the etymology you get is. In fact, no. I'LL DO IT MYSELF!

• My edit to Gershom, claiming source from a compound of "Ger" and "Shm" - Source 1, Source 2, Source 3, Source 4, Source 5

• My edit to Abram, claiming source as compound of "Ab" and "ram" - Source 1, which for God's sake IS FROM FUCKING WIKTIONARY, Source 2, Nikonov, p. 96 - Source 3, Petrovsky, p. 35 - Source 4, Genesis 17:5 - Source 5, Source 6

• My edit to Moses, showing Tiberian and Biblical Pronunciation - FOR TIBERIAN: Source 1, Source 2, Source 3. FOR BIBLICAL: Source 1, Source 2, Source 3.

So, you researched it? Because these are literally the first results on Google. BedrockPerson (talk) 12:57, 26 May 2017 (UTC)

Have you ever considered that the first results on Google are not always the most reliable? I already told you I'm not going to debate each individual issue with you. You missed your chance for that. --- Wikitiki89 (talk) - 15:36, 26 May 2017 (UTC)

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@Buidhe: Do sources have to be in English? The Hebrew Wikipedia article I translated from cites sources in Hebrew. --- Wikitiki89 (talk) - 16:38, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

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