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Books & Bytes – Issue 51

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Can you revert this edit please? https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=California_State_Prison%2C_Centinela&type=revision&diff=1109018023&oldid=1108863996 2601:206:301:4A90:FC18:F524:E2FA:FD89 (talk) 03:41, 12 September 2022 (UTC)

This IP is a sock of prolific sockmaster Cadeken. See WP:Sockpuppet investigations/Cadeken/Archive, who has created dozens of accounts and used even more IPs. The editing pattern is identical. IPs in southern California always pop up when a registered sock is blocked. The IPs seek meatpuppets with this message to evade a block or policies. Sundayclose (talk) 14:51, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
Sundayclose - Thank you. I was confused by the request. Having fun. Cheers! - {{u|WikiWikiWayne}} {Talk} 03:41, 19 September 2022 (UTC)

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Books & Bytes – Issue 52

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Guild of Copy Editors October 2022 Newsletter

Hello and welcome to our latest newsletter, a quarterly digest of Guild activities since June. Don't forget you can unsubscribe at any time; see below.

Drive: Of the 22 editors who signed up for our July Backlog Elimination Drive, 18 copy-edited, between them, 116 articles. Barnstars awarded are noted here.

Blitz: Participants in our August Copy Editing Blitz copy-edited 51,074 words in 17 articles. Of the 15 editors who signed up, 11 claimed at least one copy-edit. Barnstars awarded are noted here.

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Please check out this article Draft:Omar yahya (actor) Samerali10 (talk) 20:52, 15 February 2023 (UTC)

Samerali10 – Sure. How? {{u|WikiWikiWayne}} {Talk} 21:32, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
Hi, Samerali10 – I do not read Arabic so I will not be of much help to you. I did make a few basic edits. Maybe Randy Kryn will have some good advice. Good luck! Cheers! {{u|WikiWikiWayne}} {Talk} 22:39, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
Hello. I can't be much help, not arabic fluent either. Thanks for the ping. Randy Kryn (talk) 23:11, 15 February 2023 (UTC)

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Guild of Copy Editors December 2022 Newsletter

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Hello and welcome to our latest newsletter, a quarterly digest of Guild activities since October. Don't forget you can unsubscribe at any time; see below.

Blitz: Our October Copy Editing Blitz focused on July and August 2022 request months; and articles tagged for c/e in December 2021 and January 2022. Seventeen of those who signed up claimed at least one copy-edit, and between them copy-edited forty-six articles. Barnstars awarded are here.

Drive: In the November Backlog Elimination Drive, thirty editors signed up, twenty-two of whom claimed at least one copy-edit. Both target months—December 2021 and January 2022—were cleared, and February was added to the target months. Sixteen requests were copy-edited and 239 articles were removed from the backlog. Barnstars awarded are here.

Blitz: Our seven-day-long December 2022 Copy Editing Blitz begins on 17 December at 00:01 (UTC)*. It will focus on articles tagged for copy-edit in February 2022, and pending requests from September and October. Barnstars awarded will be available here.

Progress report: As of 22:40, 8 December 2022, GOCE copyeditors have processed 357 requests since 1 January, there were seventy-four requests outstanding and the backlog stands at 1,791 articles. We always need skilled copy-editors; please help out if you can.

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The GOCE December 2022 newsletter, as sent on 9 December, contains an erroneous start date for our December Blitz. The Blitz will start on 11 December rather than on 17 December, as stated in the newsletter. I'm sorry for the mistake and for disrupting your talk page; thanks for your understanding. Sent by Baffle gab1978 via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 21:30, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

Your continue edit war.

Your recent editing history at Killing of Tyre Nichols shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war; read about how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

Being involved in an edit war can result in you being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you do not violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly.

3 Times in a matter of 24hrs you reverted edits to your personal opinion. Your edit was reverted with the explanation that it was not sourced or attributed to a reliable source, and was regarded as original research. You reverted that edit to your opinion of what you believe is right and reinserted a link to a Wikipedia article regarding "battery" that you had recently edited. Another editor changed your edit again, with the explanation that "battery" is a crime, and beat is an action. You reverted that edit to your opinion of what you believe is right and again linked to an article you recently edited. Another edit was made to remove the word "battered" and in its place was kicked, punched, and a baton used to pummel, this edit is from the article you cited. And please note that the edit is more descriptive and provides greater clarity of what Nichols suffered. You have removed that edit and reverted to your opinion of what you think is right, and again linked to an article you recently edited. You also, have accused other(s) of warring and being disruptive. Your actions, of repeatedly reverting edits to your opinion of what you believe is right, is edit warring. You did not raise the issue on the talk page. You did not seek a consensus, despite you knowing that two editors disagree with your edits. Yet you repeatedly reverted edits to your opinion of what you believe is right. Additionally, accusing others of edit warring, whilst your conduct demonstrates your edit war, shows a lack of good faith from you towards others

Today you have continued to edit war. You are engaging in original research and you conflating issues. Again, the individuals are charged with assault. The Licensed attorney in the State of Tennessee is seeking conviction for assault under Tennessee law. You are ignoring the charges to advance your personal opinion of what you think is right. AgntOtrth (talk) 01:13, 15 February 2023 (UTC)

Stop war editing. You are being disruptive.

The former officers are charged with assault. The Prosecutors knows better than you about criminal act is alleged to been committed. Please read wikipedia policies on bias, war editing, good faith, no original research. Also please pay particular attention to WP policies, guidelines on reliable sources; news agencies are not reliable for opinions. As the laws of Tennessee define criminal acts, a 3rd party news agency is disingenuous in not using the proper terminology as defined by the laws of Tennessee. AgntOtrth (talk) 00:40, 15 February 2023 (UTC)

AgntOtrth. Battered is in the RS that was cited. Battered is all over Google and beyond. I gave you links. This is an encyclopedia. Read up on what that means. You are edit warring. Please keep this conversation in one thread. Thanks. PS: Read the whole page on assault, not just the lead. Your edits are sloppy. Slow down. Be more holistic. Cheers! {{u|WikiWikiWayne}} {Talk} 00:49, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
AgntOtrth –  More about assault versus battery. I am trying to help you. Cheers! {{u|WikiWikiWayne}} {Talk} 01:20, 15 February 2023 (UTC)

Warning, combative behavior, and lack of good faith

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Killing of Tyre Nichols. This means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be although other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

You inserted the word "battered" in an article without a source. Your edit was reverted with the explanation that it was not sourced or attributed to a reliable source, and was regarded as original research. You reverted that edit to your opinion of what you believe is right and reinserted a link to a Wikipedia article regarding "battery" that you had recently edited. Another editor changed your edit again, with the explanation that "battery" is a crime, and beat is an action. You reverted that edit to your opinion of what you believe is right and again linked to an article you recently edited. Another edit was made to remove the word "battered" and in its place was kicked, punched, and a baton used to pummel, this edit is from the article you cited. And please note that the edit is more descriptive and provides greater clarity of what Nichols suffered. You have removed that edit and reverted to your opinion of what you think is right, and again linked to an article you recently edited. You also, have accused other(s) of warring and being disruptive. Your actions, of repeatedly reverting edits to your opinion of what you believe is right, is edit warring. You did not raise the issue on the talk page. You did not seek a consensus, despite you knowing that two editors disagree with your edits. Yet you repeatedly reverted edits to your opinion of what you believe is right. Additionally, accusing others of edit warring, whilst your conduct demonstrates your edit war, shows a lack of good faith from you towards others.

Points to note:

  1. Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made;
  2. Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.

If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes and work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing. Please stop repeating facts in every paragraph. AgntOtrth (talk) 05:00, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

AgntOtrth. I don't know what to say. Your edits were terrible. I edit in good faith. Please slow your roll. Wikipedia is not about making redundant and repetitive additions to articles. Somebody needs to guide you positively and constructively, so you can become a productive and valuable contributor to the Wikipedia community. Here are some steps you can follow to understand the importance of avoiding redundant additions: Wikipedia is an encyclopedic resource where the aim is to provide comprehensive, accurate, and up-to-date information to its readers. Redundant information does not serve this purpose and only makes the articles longer and harder to read. Your edits introduced only redundant information in the article and that is unnecessary. Please understand that duplicate information should be avoided (except in the lead). Please read the article first: Before making any changes, it's important to read the entire article and understand what information is already covered. This will prevent you from adding information that's already been included before or after your edits. Try using the "Show Preview" button to see how your changes will look before you publish them. This will give you a chance to review your changes and avoid adding redundant information. If you make a mistake, go back and fix it. No worries. In the meantime, please find better ways to contribute. I encourage you to find other ways to contribute to Wikipedia, such as writing articles on topics that haven't been covered, adding sources and references, or improving the quality of existing articles. By following these steps, you can someday become a valuable contributor to the Wikipedia community and avoid making redundant additions to articles and getting reverted or scolded. Carry on. Cheers! {{u|WikiWikiWayne}} {Talk} 05:27, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

Please follow your own advice. And please discontinue with the personal attacks and showing a lack of good faith in others. AgntOtrth (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 05:49, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

Redundant redundancy

AgntOtrth. The phrase "violently battered" is not necessarily redundant, as the word "battered" can refer to physical or emotional damage that has been inflicted on someone or something. However, adding the word "violently" can add emphasis to the extent of the damage being inflicted and make the statement more descriptive. In this sense, the word "violently" serves to further clarify the nature of the battering. So while the phrase may not be strictly redundant, it can still add more information to the sentence. Please slow your roll. Cheers! {{u|WikiWikiWayne}} {Talk} 05:52, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

kick, punched, and used a baton to pummel is more informative and it comes from a source you provided. Not sure why you want the less informative term "battered" that links to an article you recently edited. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AgntOtrth (talk • contribs) 06:01, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
AgntOtrth. Because the lead already uses that expanded terminology. Look down a couple of paragraphs. By the way, we're not supposed to copy text from our sources verbatim, except in small snippets, and only then if we put it in double quote marks and attribute the exact source. Cheers! {{u|WikiWikiWayne}} {Talk} 06:07, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

January 2023

Information icon Please do not add or change content, as you did at Damar Hamlin, without citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. General Ization Talk 03:55, 4 January 2023 (UTC)

General Ization - I don't think you read the guideline you are quoting, because that's not what the guideline says. The Twinkle template is off base and needs editing to comport with the linked guideline. Cheers! {{u|WikiWikiWayne}} {Talk} 04:11, 4 January 2023 (UTC)
You edited the article to state that Hamlin was found to have suffered commotio cordis, when in fact there has been no announcement of such diagnosis, and followed your addition with the {{cn}} tag. You don't get to do that on biographical articles here. See WP:BURDEN. The template was accurate. General Ization Talk 04:14, 4 January 2023 (UTC)
General Ization - I was in the process of finessing my edit when you rudely and abruptly deleted it. You are missing the point of citations, and patrolling. Deletion is reserved for original research, vandalism, etc. -- otherwise it should be edited, or discussed. Step away from the Twinkle. It overstates the guideline. Do you know the difference between a guideline and a policy on WP? Cheers! {{u|WikiWikiWayne}} {Talk} 04:57, 4 January 2023 (UTC)
On this point I'd lean towards what General Ization said: the reliable sources out there say commotio cordis "may have" [1] or "could have" [2] caused Hamlin's collapse, which is speculation we would need to handle with much more care, if at all. - Fuzheado | Talk 05:29, 4 January 2023 (UTC)
Fuzheado - Mostly agreed, but he's misusing a poorly worded template and disrespecting an experienced editor with a template instead of engaging in a productive discussion. I had a fresh reference to drop in, plus I was going to finesse my copy edit. Cheers! {{u|WikiWikiWayne}} {Talk} 06:16, 4 January 2023 (UTC)

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Women in Red January 2023

Happy New Year from Women in Red | January 2023, Volume 9, Issue 1, Nos 250, 251, 252, 253, 254


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Nested {{rcat shell}} in redirects?

I've noticed the majority of Category:Miscellaneous redirects has 2 rcat shells inside of each other, either created or categorized by you (example). The first few times I saw this I removed them assuming it to be a mistake, but now I'm wondering whether I'm doing something wrong. Were these on purpose (if so, what are they there for)? Snowmanonahoe (talk) 21:35, 16 March 2023 (UTC)

Hey, Snowmanonahoe – I just started doing that recently, on the advice of somebody. Paine Ellsworth would know who coached me. I was puzzled too. Firstly, the shell has magic powers; secondly, it's ready and waiting to add more Rcats; thirdly there are gnomes with tools and when they launch their Rcat maintenance tool on an existing uncategorized redirect, it adds a shell, even to one Rcat. Wow, I never knew this before. As an aside, I add {{This is a redirect}} if I need help setting some Rcats. People like Paine are triggered to come in, remove that Rcat, and put in the germane Rcats. Hey, thanks for asking. Cheers! {{u|WikiWikiWayne}} {Talk} 21:53, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
Edit: Two shells nested? Oopsie. Dunno. {{u|WikiWikiWayne}} {Talk} 21:53, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
Snowmanonahoe – I believe that after you review the Rcats and refine them, you can remove {{This is a redirect}}. Is that a shell? Which shell should stay? {{u|WikiWikiWayne}} {Talk} 22:12, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
{{This is a redirect}} redirects to {{Redirect category shell}}. Snowmanonahoe (talk) 22:20, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
Snowmanonahoe – Okay, so it only populates the misc Rcat if it's not populated? Or, does nesting it also populate the misc Rcat? I use it singley when I don't know any germane Rcats. That has worked well. What's the best setup if I know a few Rcats, not all, and maybe not sure? My point is to pull in fresh eyes like yours. Thanks. Take care. Cheers! {{u|WikiWikiWayne}} {Talk} 23:07, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
Put everything into the second parameter, by typing 2 pipes after the rcat shell instead of one, like this. Snowmanonahoe (talk) 23:36, 16 March 2023 (UTC)

Moving to draft after one hour

I got your email. I don't have a particular view on any time lapse – I don't like moving to draft at all but I don't intend to argue my case. I'm unfamiliar with 3RR matters so I don't know whether your block was proper or whether the other party should have been blocked as well. I nearly always practice 0RR myself on the basis that if there is an important matter someone else can sort it out (by the way I don't recommend this way of editing!) Best wishes. Thincat (talk) 19:28, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

Thincat – No worries. I was not putting you on the spot about 3RR, etc. Cheers! {{u|WikiWikiWayne}} {Talk} 00:58, 15 March 2023 (UTC)

Archive revert at WP:AN by admin Bbb23

I've reverted your archiving of the thread about you. You cannot archive a thread in which you were involved. Don't do it again.--Bbb23 (talk) 01:49, 17 March 2023 (UTC)

Good to see you back Wayne. I don't think there's any guidelines that say when you should archive a thread on ANI (though I could be wrong and would be interested in a link to some if they exist). Certainly an involved editor should never close a discussion, (see WP:CLD) but archiving a closed thread is more of a menial maintenance task in my view. Personally I'd leave it for a bot to do. Anyway, Wayne, since Bbb23 reverted the archiving, it was probably not a good idea to revert them and archive it again - you're getting close to edit warring, and you want to be avoiding that impression at all costs at the moment. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 10:44, 17 March 2023 (UTC)

Hi, Ritchie333. That particular AN section is mostly online defamation of living people, willfully performed by living people. To that end, archiving is one method of mitigating the damage to these living people. Leaving it in the clear continues to damage these living people. Although it does not address the defamation damages, archiving hopefully mitigates it. Please figure out a way to quash and manage such defaming comments going forward, especially when the defaming comments are a super majority of the section. Your hands are fairly clean in that AN section. You take care. PS: Maybe a better name for AN would be HFGDB (High Fives & Grave Dancing Board) as there was not much or any citing to back up all the online defaming. Cheers! {{u|WikiWikiWayne}} {Talk} 13:20, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
Bbb23. NOTICE: I feel bullied, personally attacked, defamed, and threatened by every single comment and action you have willingly and deliberately directed at me. Please stop. And, you are incorrect in all of your efforts to online bully me. You are damaging me, purposefully. Take care. Cheers! {{u|WikiWikiWayne}} {Talk} 13:27, 17 March 2023 (UTC)

Wayne, I think you need to draw a line under this. The block was placed to prevent disruption; I cannot emphasise this enough - it's nothing personal. I suggest you forget all about this, and move on to improving articles again. Elsewhere on the internet, I've argued with people why Britain leaving the EU was a bad idea, and why Boris Johnson should never be allowed to run a country, and got abusive replies in response much worse than what you received at the noticeboard. I never replied to those comments, I just privately thought "that person is an idiot and I'm ignoring them" rather than complaining about being bullied or abused by the language used. I would suggest doing that. As Marcus Aurelius wrote - ""What? art offended by other men's badness? teach them then, or bear with them."

I urge to you drop the matter, otherwise another admin may consider issuing another block to quell the disruption, and you will find it difficult to extract yourself from the situation. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 13:53, 17 March 2023 (UTC)

Hey, Ritchie333 – Which block? #1 stopped nothing. The three of us were fixing things. The first block ignited things.
Bbb23 blocked more things igniting the situation more and gating off all communication avenues.
The block edit message says to email the blocking admin. Then Bbb23 went on the wiki to grave dance that they had blocked me for emailing them. Plus, they did not respond to the email. More gasoline on the fire. More defamation. More damage to living people.
Which block are you speaking to? Take care. Cheers! {{u|WikiWikiWayne}} {Talk} 14:10, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
  • I'd comment but I'd heard from Dick that you never bought him that drink with the ten dollars I gave you to buy him one. Inexcusable and for that you should be indeffed, buffaloed, drawn and semi-quartered, and exiled from this land o'plenty (and besides, it was just a two day ban, water off ducks back). Randy Kryn (talk) 13:52, 18 March 2023 (UTC)

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