User talk:Welshleprechaun/Archive2

Archive 2: May - December 2008

Wales 'edit war'

Hi, you reverted me reverting Matt Lewis. It was agreed on the Wales talk page and Matt Lewis's talk page by other editors (not just me) that the sentence removed was unsuitable for the intro and it was rewritten in the Politics of Wales section. If you want to approve of Matt's sentence then please indicate why on the Wales talk page but if that's not the case then can you re remove the sentence that we agreed to remove already. I'm at my 3rr limit. Thanks.WikipÉIRE\^(caint) 19:56, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Hi, Have you made your decision yet? That's two editors who have told you the story of the situation. Do you agree with is movement to a different article and thus removing it from the intro or do we have to go down the mediation road again?WikipÉIRE\^(caint) 10:49, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

It appears Matt has done a u-turn and is trying to sort out a compromise. No need to revert for the moment.WikipÉIRE\^(caint) 13:09, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Misleading use of stats

Hi - we've discussed this subject before - please use consistent statistics when comparing areas, otherwise it just looks like bias. We both know that 317,500 is the 06 mid-year estimate for the city and county of Cardiff, therefore this figure cannot be compared with ONS 2001 urban area stats for other places. It's wrong and it's misleading. Cheers. Pondle (talk) 21:47, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

The Wales Intro - Wales in the EU

I'm not interested in engaging in an edit war, but to explain my position on this: I think the line in the intro about Wales having more 'independent' relations with the European Union since devolution is misleading. Foreign policy remains a reserved matter outside the Assembly's competence. Hence the Concordat on Co-ordination of European Union Policy Issues stating that "relations with the European Union are the responsibility of the Parliament and Government of the United Kingdom, as Member State."[1] The Concordat on International Relations states that "The Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs... has overall responsibility for concluding treaties and other international agreements on behalf of the United Kingdom, ensuring compliance with the United Kingdom’s EU and other international obligations".[2] It's also important to note that Wales isn't independently represented on any of the key European bodies, e.g. the European Council, the Council of the European Union, the European Commission or the European Court of Justice. The only changes that I can see occuring since devolution is WAG representation on the United Kingdom Permanent Representation to the EU (UKRep),[3] and Wales being represented on the EU's Committee of the Regions and Economic and Social Committee - although these just seem to involve local councillors [4].Pondle (talk) 22:00, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Infobox

Hello WL, I have explained on the talk page the changes I made to the Welsh infobox and would appreciate your input. Thanks --Jack forbes (talk) 15:05, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Thomas Cook Airlines

Please note that Thomas Cook Airlines UK Limited is the name of the airline that has a Civil Aviation Authority Operating Licence and that the IP was changing it in good faith not vandalism. It is also useful to tell the difference between Thomas Cook Airlines Belgium and Thomas Cook Airlines Scandinavia. Perhaps you might consider removing the vandalism warning on the users page and take the discussion to the talk page. Thanks MilborneOne (talk) 18:49, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Good point about reverting on article talk page - I have put a warning on the IP users talk page about the three-revert rule. MilborneOne (talk) 21:38, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Wales vote

Hello WL, You may already know of it and decided not to vote, but I thought I would let you know there is a vote currently going on at the Wales talk page concerning whether to keep Constituent Country or change to Country. --Jack forbes (talk) 20:45, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

İçmeler

You made a very good point on the page about its incorrect pronunciation. I only took an interest in the article because I was on holiday at that resort for the past week and where I too found people calling it "Ishmulla", but by people, you know who I mean? Not the punters, but the wretched UK tour operator agents and their counterparts back home as well as the clueless holiday channel presenters. They like to think that they are clever, and try to present themselves as a cut above the client with regards to local knowledge, but how can they be so stupid? If they don't know how to read a simple language like Turkish, then they shouldn't try to overstretch themselves: I told our "rep" how it is pronounced in Turkish and she said "ah, but that is how British holiday makers know it". But why? Only because half-heads like her go around instilling it into them. When presented with foreign words, with or without their diacritics, the average person will attempt to pronounce it phonetically; so to have been unaware, a more acceptable guess would have been "ick-mell-ah" (ck as in brick), but where in any language does "c" replicate a "sh" sound! Not even with all of English's variety. I wish to make a note on the article that it is the tourism profession who are the source of the ignorance but how the heck can I find a source I don't know. Evlekis (talk) 07:25, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Railway stations

So, you can just remove items from templates willy nilly without discussion and it's ok, but if anyone else attempts to make changes to templates, it has to be discussed first? Sounds like hypocrisy to me. The fact is, the discussion regarding what constitutes a "major" station occured long ago, agreement was reached and it was left as it was perfectly fine. Until you decided otherwise. Anyway, going by your logic, Lewisham should be included - it has more passenger numbers than Cardiff Queen Street, serves five seperate routes, interchanges with local rapid transit and has a major local bus station next to it. I'll put that up for discussion shall I? Hammersfan 15/05/08, 11.15 BST

It's funny, I don't actually seem to see any agreement that Cardiff Queen Street should be included - all I can actually see is you for it and a lot of other people discussing it, and then your good self saying "I've put it on and removed Snow Hill; now let there be no more additions without discussing it". Hammersfan 15/05/08, 16.35 BST

Torchwood

Please discuss your edits on the talk page first as they may be controversial. I note from above that you are keen on discussing changes. Meanwhile, I've reverted them. Thanks. --Rodhullandemu 23:48, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Newcastle Central

Hi there. I just wanted to clarify that the reason I reverted your addition of offcially Newcastle from Newcastle Central railway station wasn't anything to do with the source or lack of it - it was solely due to improving the readability of the opening paragraph. I noted that in my earlier edit summary and discussed the issue on the talk page. Thanks. DrFrench (talk) 08:04, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

In case you're stuck for something to do...:)

Hi WL

First of all, I hope you're not too bummed about the cup final. Anyways, last week I put in a request for Cardiff to get a peer review, and it's now received some comments. I'm just about to make a start on them, but it's by no means a one-man job! There's probably one or two things on that list which will need a bit of brainstorming, so any help would be appreciated!

Cheers, Bettia ^(talk) 14:34, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Sheffield station

Your edit to the Sheffield station page was unnecessary, especially since the page you decided to redirect it to was blank. Please do not unnecessarily redirect articles when there is no need. Thanks. ~~ [Jam]^[talk] 16:26, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

You should not do copy and paste moves. You should have discussed it on the talk page first, and if consensus was reached, you should have requested the page was moved by an administrator. ~~ [Jam]^[talk] 16:31, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

I'll be reverting the move since as JGXenite notes, pages aren't moved by copy and paste, it seriously messes things up. If this requires administrator intervention then you'll need to first get consensus in support of the move and then request an admin assists in performing the move. Adambro (talk) 19:22, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Media in Cardiff

Please do not synthesize references to support a point in articles. Mars Attacks! could not possibly have referenced TV and film productions that happened after it, so please provide some evidence that the reference is as you say, and not just a reference to Tom Jones being Welsh. 81.110.106.169 (talk) 20:57, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Cardiff music scene

Ah, I think I see where you're coming from now. I've re-added the acts I deleted and made a distinction between those who actually come from Cardiff and those who are linked to the city. We'll probably need to find references for those links though. Bettia ^(talk) 11:43, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Swansea Metro

First, please stop edit-warring with User:MickMacNee on the Swansea Metro article. Second, the word "metro" is not always synonymous with a type of rail system; it is simply an abbreviation of the word "metropolitan". While in many places (e.g. Paris, Montreal) it is used to describe an underground railway, in other places (as diverse as West Yorkshire and Los Angeles) it is used as a brand for public transport in general. The opening sentence of the Swansea Metro article makes it quite clear that it is a BRT system; there is no reason to say that it's not something. --RFBailey (talk) 16:12, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

I take your point, but the fact is that there is no formal definition of "Metro" to mean anything (grade-separated or otherwise). Personally, I think the redirect of "metro" to "rapid transit" is a poor idea, and should be reviewed. Regardless, there is still no excuse for edit-warring. --RFBailey (talk) 20:39, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Excuse me

Did you have any reason to tell me that I made a mistake changing centre to center? No you didn't. All you had to do was remove what I said. Please don't go on my talk page a--Xxhopingtearsxx (talk) 22:10, 17 June 2008 (UTC)gain.

Sport in Wales

Hi - in view of your commitment to sport in Cardiff you may be interested in an AFD proposal for Cardiff Canoe Club. It is a complete stub, and so has attracted attention for that reason. However someone with a local interest may take issue with the rationale that is is just a local private club. Same nominator, who has been picking on canoeing articles, also proposed a merger of the Welsh and British governing body for canoeing! Regards Motmit (talk) 19:40, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Cardiff Waterbus

A tag has been placed on Cardiff Waterbus requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a company or corporation, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is notable: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not indicate the subject's importance or significance may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, as well as our subject-specific notability guideline for companies and corporations.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the article does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that a copy be emailed to you. triwbe (talk) 15:31, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Perhaps when creating new a page in future, you could try creating and working on it in your user space first until it's ready, then moving it into the article space. That way you'd avoid this sort of a problem again. --RFBailey (talk) 19:19, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Oxford Wikimania 2010 and Wikimedia UK v2.0 Notice

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CrossCountry Network Map

Hey there. Thanks for putting together the CrossCountry Network Map. I've just noticed that Brockenhurst is on there twice, including once north of Winchester (which it definitely isn't). Did you mean Basingstoke? — Lincolnite (talk) 17:04, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Marina Tower

Hi there! I'm just curious as to why you changed the location in the Marina Tower article to from Wales to South Wales? Just about all other building articles on Wikipedia state town/city and country. Would you object if I change it back to what seems the standard convention? Weisinger (talk) 21:19, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Dab Cat vs template

I'm not going to go so far as to say "never place [[Category:Disambiguation]] on a Dab page", but if you ever find a case where the Cat is appropriate i'd like to hear about it. Otherwise, plz use {{Disambig}}. Thanks!
--Jerzy•t 07:02, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Advise

You might want to check {http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Snowded#Suspected_sock_puppet this] out --Snowded TALK 07:03, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

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Newport station

OK so he's moved it back again, i suggest we get this flagged as vandalism and contact a WP admin? Shazz0r (talk) 14:39, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

I'll let you sort it, bit new to this still. The fact an admin put the redirect in place is enough justification for him to get a vandalism ban/block. Shazz0r (talk) 14:52, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

Still better than nothing, and he might actually go with the consencus in future. Shazz0r (talk) 14:57, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

The Wave

Hi,

I just want to point out that i have made an effort to place some reference sources in the 96.4 The Wave article. I do not believe that i own the article. Jonny7003 (talk) 21:14, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

Cardiff International Airport

I've restored the sourced information and this time, on the second attempt, managed to get it to lie southwest rather than south southwest, here. Cheers. CambridgeBayWeather Have a gorilla 22:01, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

Because that's what the source gives. What is needed is a way for the convert template to show km first, then miles and then nautical miles, even if the input figure is something else, and that has been brought up before. A sourced figure is better than nothing. CambridgeBayWeather Have a gorilla 23:11, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

I stuck in the conversion template. Using the distance from the airport site is a much better idea, as most people don't use nautical miles. Unfortunally most sources for airports always use NM because that's what pilots use. Though why a pilot would look at a chart (outside of North America) and want to see distances from towns in NM, runway lengths in metres and heights above sea level in feet is a mystery. Cheers. CambridgeBayWeather Have a gorilla 23:27, 10 December 2008 (UTC)