User talk:Walter Spraggins

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Please help me with...I have posted a page and it has been marked for delition. Can you help me edit it so that this does not happen?

Walter Spraggins (talk) 19:39, 28 September 2016 (UTC)wspraggins[reply]

You seem to mistake Wikipedia for a soapbox from which you can promote your political positions. I'm sorry, but we're an encyclopedia, and such promotion is not appropriate. Those are not encyclopedia articles; they should not be on Wikipedia. Huon (talk) 19:45, 28 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of Ownermanager

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A tag has been placed on Ownermanager requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about something invented/coined/discovered by the article's creator or someone they know personally, and it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time.

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You wrote on the talk page: "these are facts; nothing more, nothing less." Maybe, but you pulled them together to draw your own conclusion and invent a word. For the reasons why this is not appropriate in Wikipedia, see:

WP:No original research, particularly the section Synthesis: "Do not combine material from multiple sources to reach or imply a conclusion not explicitly stated by any of the sources."
WP:Wikipedia is not a dictionary#Neologisms.

JohnCD (talk) 15:03, 29 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Walter Spraggins (talk) 15:44, 29 September 2016 (UTC)Hello JohnCD, Okay, the objection now is to the use of the compund word ownermanager? A neologism (/niːˈɒlədʒɪzəm/; from Greek νέο- néo-, "new" and λόγος lógos, "speech, utterance") is the name for a relatively new or isolated term, word, or phrase that may be in the process of entering common use, but that has not yet been fully accepted into mainstream language. For children what word would you suggest? Okay I understand that Wikipeda is not a dictionary. It is a new learning aid. Wikipeda was a neologism when it started. It is okay for you to invent a new way of saying "public-handmade-cobled together-encyclopedia", but it is not okay for anyone else?[reply]

If you want to speak to JohnCD directly, it's probably best to draw his attention to this page by using the {{ping}} template, or posting on his talk page. I understand that Wikipedia's policies can be frustrating to new users, but our policy page covering neologisms exists to ensure that topics covered on Wikipedia have received enough substantial, reliable coverage in third-party sources about them so as to make the page encyclopedic. Neologisms aren't included when sources have only used the phrase; they can be included when reliable sources have written about the term (at which point they would no longer be a "neologism"). Cheers, Nick⁠—⁠^Contact/_Contribs 16:37, 29 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

It's all right, I was watching this page. Mr Spraggins, you have taken from the Constitution of the US the idea that a citizen is an owner of the US, and from the "Constitution of the American Social Contract" the idea that the government are employees of the citizens, and put those together to support your invented word "OwnerManager" for the staus of the citizen. No such idea is stated in either of your sources, so what you are doing is synthesis.

The fundamental issue here is that it is not the role of an encyclopedia to publish new ideas, any more than new words; only to summarise what has already been published in reliable sources. The policy Wikipedia:No original research is absolutely fundamental. I recommend that you read the whole of it, but note in particular the statement:

"If no reliable third-party sources can be found on a topic, Wikipedia should not have an article about it. If you discover something new, Wikipedia is not the place to announce such a discovery."

See also WP:What Wikipedia is not#Wikipedia is not a soapbox or means of promotion. I am quoting these policies not to baffle you with small print, but to explain why Wikipedia is not for what you want to do. You may find some ideas at Wikipedia:Alternative outlets for places where you could publish your thesis about OwnerManagers. JohnCD (talk) 19:15, 29 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]