User talk:Walter J. Rotelmayer

Hi, please stop changing the biographical details in teh articles as they are incorrect. --Tone 13:09, 13 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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December 2012

Hello, I'm Vacation9. I wanted to let you know that I undid one of your recent contributions, such as the one you made to Ragusano, because it didn’t appear constructive to me. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks, Vacation^nine 15:36, 19 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I would gladly stop reverting the pages

If you would cease deleting those pages. Your objections have been made clear. As I have stated repeatedly, List of Basques, List of Sardinians, List of Catalans, List of Cajuns, etc. have shown the established precedent. You renamed "List of Sicilians" to "List of people from Sicily" and that does not follow the same formula as other similar articles. Your cited reason for reverting my action was "People from Sicily are Italian!" which demonstrates that you appear to be approaching this from a biased POV. Sadistik (talk) 23:00, 18 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

They are Italian citizens just as Sardinians are.

Yet the article for them is not "List of people from Sardinia" but rather Sardinian people, like most other groups. The renaming you did to the article does not conform with other articles on the English wiki, and even on the Italian wiki, there is no consensus. For people from Abruzzo, the article is simply it:Abruzzesi while for Ligurian people it is it:Nativi della Liguria. However, on this wiki, there is a standard. Sicilian people is the right name for the article, with a disambiguation message if necessary.

I have read it

But the Italian constition does not get to decide what an ethnic group is or isn't, just as it cannot decide what a language is or isn't. The Italian government treats the Sicilian language as a dialect of Italian when the rest of the world (including the English and Italian Wikipedias) does not see it that way. On the Portuguese language Wikipedia, Sicilians are listed on the "Ethnic groups of Europe" page. Different Wikis have a different standard. Italian nationalists do not dominate this one as much, perhaps. Sadistik (talk) 00:01, 19 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I did not call you a nationalist.

So if you are searching for insults you will have to look further. What I said was that you will find less Italian nationalists on Wikis than the Italian language one, and the implication is that they will be less biased against autonomist and secessionist movements. Nowhere did I state that you were one yourself. I have cited repeated examples of where my work is standard for this Wikipedia, while you repeatedly disregard what I say as my POV, as if yours was something else than a contary POV. Sadistik (talk) 00:16, 19 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

This is an English-language Wiki

And it is also one that has a high degree of uniformity. The article you renamed does not fit in with other comparable articles now, where the template is "name of an ethnic group, followed by 'people'". You contend that Sicilians are not an ethnic group, but the English Wiki has already determined them to be one in many cases, hence why there are categories for American people of Sicilian descent, Canadian people of Sicilian descent, Argentine people of Sicilian descent, etc... but you won't find those same categories for Tuscans or Ligurians. Indeed, there is even a category for Italians from the mainland (like Bettino Craxi or Julius Evola) whose ancestors were Sicilians. This Wiki treats Sicilians as an ethnic group, and as such, whether your own POV agrees with it or not, the article should follow the same formula of Sardinian, Basque, Catalan, etc. This was already the way it had been, before you took it upon yourself to edit the name. There is no consensus behind "List of people from Sicily". See: Category:Lists of people by ethnicity, Category:Lists of people by nationality Sadistik (talk) 16:31, 19 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Your example is flawed.

Texas is not an autonomous region with 10,000 years of its own history, its own language, or a President. If you wish to use an American example, an example of an autonomous region in the United States would be Puerto Rico. List of Puerto Ricans / Puerto Rican people are links to good articles. List of Sardinians and Sardinian people are, as well. I only seek to do the same here.Sadistik (talk) 17:15, 19 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Italian

Why don't you try READING the ref before edit warring over something it doesn't say? — kwami (talk) 00:33, 6 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Italy and the council of ministers logo

Please do not add the logo to the main infobox again. It is merely a logo of the government, it is not an official symbol of the country, Moreover, it just links to the same page as the national emblem does. France and Germany are not proper comparisons, because in the case of Germany the Bundesadler is a legal national symbol, and in the case of France (which has no legal national symbol) the government logo is use extremely heavily in lieu. Fry1989 ^eh? 17:47, 22 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry you disagree, but the fact remains it is not an official symbol of the country, but merely a logo of the government. The main infobox on country articles are for the symbols of the nation. If you continue to add it, I will have to ask some admin intervention because I do not have time to fight with you about this. Fry1989 ^eh? 19:14, 22 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Tino Caspanello

Hi! Can you explain to me why with this edit you removed the description "Sicilian" from this Sicilian playwright? And why you chose to describe the previous, quite correct, edit as vandalism? And why you made a number of similar edits to other articles? People from Sicily are Sicilians. Do you have some sort of problem with that? Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 00:09, 11 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

More generally, I just looked over your (Walter's) contributions, and while in some cases you are correctly changing ethnicities, in others you are not. If a person lived before "Italy" as a state existed, we cannot call them "Italian" in the lead of the article. We do need to correctly refer to them as a national of whatever state they lived in; if that nationality changed, then it gets complicated, but that is dealt with on a case by case basis. Qwyrxian (talk) 22:26, 12 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Airbus A350 Alitalia

Hello. You have add Airbus A350 into Alitalia fleet on Wikipedia with their configuration too. Can I know how do you know this information? Where you read it? --Wind of freedom (talk) 18:08, 5 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

No this website is not updated, at the moment Alitalia have not ordered 12 Airbus A350. The order is by APF (Aircraft Purchase Fleet) which will give the aircrafts to some company, maybe Alitalia but it's not sure. --Wind of freedom (talk) 21:16, 5 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

If you find some sources about this you can post it as references, but are necessary more than just one source. --Wind of freedom (talk) 22:56, 5 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

progetto Risorgimento (wiki italiana)

Vedo che te ne occupi e scrivi nella wiki inglese, vorresti essere attivo anche in quella italiana sull'argomento? Ciao --Bramfab (talk) 10:11, 6 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Bare URLs on the Vincenzo Bellini article

I notice that you write quite a bit about things Italian, as do I, although mine are about Italian operas. When you added the ref to the Bellini article, it appears as a raw url, so maybe you can take a look at WP:BAREURLS and make a point of providing some brief explanation of the content. Thanks. Viva-Verdi (talk) 17:35, 28 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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