User talk:Versia Harris

Welcome!

Hello, Versia Harris, and welcome to Wikipedia! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Unfortunately, one or more of the pages you created, such as William Bertalan, may not conform to some of Wikipedia's guidelines, and may not be retained.

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This article was in no way ready to be in the encyclopedia. I have no opinion on whether or not it is a suitable subject, but as written, the article was not acceptable. It does not even state in the text that the guy is an artist, much less why he's a notable artist. I've moved it to Draft:William Bertalan. Please develop it at your leisure and submit through WP:AfC when you think it is ready. If you haven't yet, please read WP:My first article. Thanks. John from Idegon (talk) 18:04, 14 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Wayne Branch (August 14)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by RoySmith was:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

The comment the reviewer left was:

Please see WP:NBIO.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Wayne Branch and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
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-- RoySmith (talk) 18:00, 14 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Versia Harris! Having an article declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! -- RoySmith (talk) 18:00, 14 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination of Coral Bernadine for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Coral Bernadine is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Coral Bernadine until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. cymru.lass (talk • contribs) 18:18, 14 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

paid editing

You need to specify on your userpage what articles you have been paid to edit. Thanks. John from Idegon (talk) 18:21, 14 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Versia Harris: To clarify, the policy for disclosures is here. You must not only state who is paying you, but who benefits from it (who the client is). cymru.lass (talk • contribs) 19:10, 14 August 2018 (UTC)`[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of Coral Bernadine

If this is the first article that you have created, you may want to read the guide to writing your first article.
You may want to consider using the Article Wizard to help you create articles.

A tag has been placed on Coral Bernadine, requesting that it be deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under two or more of the criteria for speedy deletion, by which pages can be deleted at any time, without discussion. If the page meets any of these strictly-defined criteria, then it may soon be deleted by an administrator. The reasons it has been tagged are:

It is a very short article providing little or no context to the reader. (See section A1 of the criteria for speedy deletion.) Wikipedia has standards for the minimum necessary information to be included in short articles; you can see these at Wikipedia:Stub. Also please note that articles must be on notable subjects and should provide references to reliable sources that verify their content.
It appears to be about a person, organization (band, club, company, etc.), individual animal, or web content, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. (See section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion.) Such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator, or if you have already done so, you can place a request here. Tyw7 (🗣️ Talk) — If (reply) then (ping me) 19:43, 14 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination of Anderson Archer for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Anderson Archer is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Anderson Archer until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. power~enwiki (π, ν) 23:59, 15 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of Vincent Castellanet

Hello Versia Harris,

I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Vincent Castellanet for deletion, because the article doesn't clearly say why the subject is important enough to be included in an encyclopedia.

If you feel that the article shouldn't be deleted and want more time to work on it, you can contest this deletion, but please don't remove the speedy deletion tag from the top.

You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions.

GMG ^talk 15:30, 16 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of Vishni Gopwani

If this is the first article that you have created, you may want to read the guide to writing your first article.
You may want to consider using the Article Wizard to help you create articles.

A tag has been placed on Vishni Gopwani requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a person, a group of people, an individual animal, an organization (band, club, company, etc.), web content, or an organized event that does not credibly indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please read more about what is generally accepted as notable.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator. ~Anachronist (talk) 23:54, 16 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Mandatory paid editing disclosure

Hello Versia Harris. The nature of your edits gives the impression you have an undisclosed financial stake in promoting a topic, and that you have not complied with Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. Paid advocacy is a category of conflict of interest (COI) editing that involves being compensated by a person, group, company or organization to use Wikipedia to promote their interests. Undisclosed paid advocacy is prohibited by our policies on neutral point of view and what Wikipedia is not, and is an especially egregious type of COI; the Wikimedia Foundation regards it as a "black hat" practice akin to Black hat SEO.

Paid advocates are very strongly discouraged from direct article editing, and should instead propose changes on the talk page of the article in question if an article exists, and if it does not, from attempting to write an article at all. At best, any proposed article creation should be submitted through the articles for creation process, rather than directly.

Regardless, if you are receiving or expect to receive compensation for your edits, broadly construed, you are required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at User:Versia Harris. The template {{Paid}} can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form: {{paid|user=Versia Harris|employer=InsertName|client=InsertName}}. If I am mistaken – you are not being directly or indirectly compensated for your edits – please state that in response to this message. Otherwise, please provide the required disclosure. In either case, please do not edit further until you answer this message.

Consider this your final warning. Your next edit needs to explain your association with the subjects about whom you are writing. Do not make any more contributions until you do this. It is OK to be a paid editor, but you are legally bound to disclose this, as you agreed to do so when you created an account here. ~Anachronist (talk) 23:57, 16 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Anachronist, I have disclosed that I am a paid user and by whom on my user page already, using a template Wikipedia provided. Have I not done this correctly? I am new to Wikipedia and I don't know how else to state that I am paid other than the way I was instructed via the template. Should I attached this paid message to every edit I make? I don't intend to violate any terms but I thought I had done what was necessary. Thanks for your feedback - ~VersiaHarris (talk)

Ah yes, you are correct. I had been following your activity for a few days before I wrote the warning, and failed to notice you had already made the disclosure. Thank you.

Now you need to become familiar with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines, specifically

Wikipedia:Notability (people)
Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons
Wikipedia:Conflict of interest - this is important. Because you have a conflict of interest by virtue of being compensated to create content here, you should not make any edits in main article space, but use draft space instead, and propose your drafts for review via Wikipedia:Articles for creation.

Your employer would do well to learn what Wikipedia is for also, as the comment below demonstrates a profound ignorance in conflict with Wikipedia's purpose. ~Anachronist (talk) 07:23, 21 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Reply regarding mandatory paid editing disclosure

Dear Anachronist, Versia Harris has informed me about your request for paid editing disclosure, and I wanted to let you know the following: The non-profit company The HeritEdge Connection Inc., located in Barbados, is conducting a documentation project for the art collection located at the Sidney Martin Library at the University of West Indies, Cave Hill, Barbados. Please see information about the project here. In the context of this project, we wanted to give a student the opportunity to create Barbadian artists' biographies in Wikipedia, and for this purpose we have engaged Versia Harris. We are providing Versia with a small stipend. This is meant as a small support for a student, and is in no way a regular payment. I am happy to discuss this more in detail with you over email (you will find my email in the website, and I can also disclose the amount she will receive). If you read the page about the project, you will see that neither the non-profit company, nor Versia Harris have any kind of conflict of interest or promoting the interests of any group. This is about artists biographies. A note on the pages she creates: These are all artists whose work is contained in the SML Library's collection. For some, we have gathered enough information, for some others there is too little information available. The aim of this project is to put in place "placeholder" pages (stubs) that later on other University of West Indies can work upon and enrich as course assignments. This is something that the library wants to introduce in the context of "teaching with special collections." Thank you very much for your consideration, please feel free to contact me. Amaliasl (talk) 02:16, 21 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

That is not at all how Wikipedia works. Also, this editor has very little competency at editing Wikipedia, and your misguided project is forcing her into a conflict of interest. Her main interest is in serving your organization, not in improving this encyclopedia. WE ARE NOT A FREE WEBHOST. What you are doing is unethical. John from Idegon (talk) 02:35, 21 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I am sorry that this has been misunderstood. This is a service to the community and the project is an educational project, it is not a commercial venture. All we wanted was to add to Wikipedia artists that are represented in collections, both locally as well as internationally. Since it seems that there are issues with this, we are not going to continue with this. Thank you for you feedback. 72.51.111.112 (talk) 16:20, 21 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The service to the community is appreciated in its intent. I advise you to read Wikipedia:Student assignments and try again.

@John from Idegon: please assume good faith. While this student assignment was ill conceived and started out wrong, it can still add value to an online encyclopedia after the participants gain more familiarity with Wikipedia's objectives.

@Amaliasl: and @Versia Harris: All editors with a conflict of interest should write articles in draft space and submit them for review via Wikipedia:Articles for creation. Note that even though your venture is not commercial, using Wikipedia for publicity or exposure is forbidden. We routinely ban non-profit charitable organizations who create publicity articles here, because Wikipedia isn't a publicity platform regardless of who writes the articles.

If the artists are notable (that is, they are nationally recognized and have had significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources), then they merit articles on Wikipedia. Some artists do, some don't. The community determines this.

It is not easy to be a competent Wikipedia editor right from the start. One must familiarize oneself with Wikipedia's basic policies and guidelines first. New paid editors especially are closely scrutinized. ~Anachronist (talk) 18:31, 21 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you all so much for your feedback and advice, this has been very valuable. If there is any movement forward it will be under the correct procedures. VersiaHarris