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Thanks for the Kitten

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Thank you for the kitten, it was very much appreciated and I am sure I can find it a good home as unfortunately I am allergic to cat and dog hair. Waacstats (talk) 19:33, 11 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 12 December 2011

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Netball

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After a couple of months it has finally received a solid review and passed as a good article. You contributed most of the content and started it down this path so deserve a lot of the credit. AIRcorn (talk) 21:48, 15 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

MfD nomination of Talk:Disability classifications of the International Paralympic Committee

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Talk:Disability classifications of the International Paralympic Committee, a page you substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Talk:Disability classifications of the International Paralympic Committee and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of Talk:Disability classifications of the International Paralympic Committee during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 21:58, 17 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Re: Jeremy Doyle

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Hi Laura, all done. He died far too young. Graham87 13:37, 19 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject Biography assessments

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I'm writing in regards to your post at WikiProject Biography. I've been actively editing for the past nine months, and I'm losing interest because I don't feel like I'm making any difference here. Anyway... after reading about the need for a third party to assess the articles, or any other task you need help with, I'm here to say:

"Put me to work!"

Tell me what needs to be done, and and I'll be happy to work on it. Senator2029║talk 02:39, 21 December 2011 (UTC) Links to do a background check: Senator2029 (talk · contribs · count · logs · page moves · block log · edit summaries)[reply]

The Signpost: 19 December 2011

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Re: Editing assistance: Perspectives on women in the WMF movement

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Hi Laura, I've done some work on the Australian section. I'll be spending Christmas today with my family. Merry Christmas, and have a happy new year! Graham87 02:10, 25 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Merry Christmas

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Deletion notices

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A tag has been placed on Women's horse racing in Australia, Women's fishing in Australia, Women's chess in Australia and Women's billiards in Australia requesting that they be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a very short article that does not provide sufficient context to identify a valid encyclopedic subject. Please see Wikipedia:Stub for our minimum information standards for short articles. Also please note that articles must be on notable subjects and should provide references to reliable sources that verify their content.

Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself. If you plan to expand the articles, contest the deletions by clicking on the button that says: Click here to contest this speedy deletion which appears inside of the speedy deletion ({{db-...}}) tag at each page (if no such tag exists, the page is no longer a speedy delete candidate). Doing so will take you to the talk page of that article where you will find a pre-formatted place for you to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. You can also visit each article's talk page directly to give your reasons, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this.

[end boilerplate] The first issue is that you've created a would-be article for every single sport mentioned by a tiny survey of no modern relevance, even when the sport in question showed an utterly trivial level of interest on the part of Australian women. The second issue is that there is no corresponding "SPORT-NAME-HERE in Australia" general article for the majority of the articles you created in response to that short survey in 1940, so most of them should be merged, because there's not anything encyclopedically notable about the women vs. men participating in most cases. Some organized sports like women's field hockey are likely exceptions. None of the articles tagged for speedy deletion qualify. The third problem, and why it's a speedy deletion issue, is that the ones tagged are not actually articles. They all boil down to nothing more than "A statistically-insignificant survey over 70 years ago suggested that less than 1% of women in Australia play SPORT-NAME-HERE." That is not a topic at all, it's random statement of trivia.

Even if it were worked into something that could theoretically be encyclopedic, these all fail the WP:Notability test - there do not appear to be multiple, independent reliable sources that that treat, say, "Australian women's fishing" as a phenomenon of any kind reported on in and of itself. There isn't even a women's billiards article or a billiards in Australia article. These too-fine-toothed article ideas are what we call trivial intersections of topics, like "gay black politicians from Canada" or "stage actors named Jones". There is no need for articles like this until the parent topics are so huge that they have to be split up by finer levels of detail, like gender or country or whatever.

Some of the other articles you created in that series have developed nicely, because the are covering encyclopedic topics, but these few don't qualify. This tends to always be the case when one attempts to make an article about every single member of some set of things (every sport mentioned in a 1940 survey, every person who ever worked at a notable company, every essay ever written by an published author, etc.) — SMcCandlish Talk⇒ ʕ(Õلō)ˀ Contribs. 03:34, 26 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 26 December 2011

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Research budgeting

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Check out http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research_talk:Wikimedia_Summer_of_Research_2011/Summary_of_Findings Pinetalk 10:17, 28 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Invitation: WikiWomenCamp

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Hi, Laura. Haven't heard from you in ages! Hope you had a good Christmas :D. Nice to see you've become established behind the scenes here. Goodness knows we need more women editors on Wikipedia (I'm male myself, but staunchly supportive nonetheless). Thanks for the invitation to the conference, but I can't even make it to Canberra next month, let alone Buenos Aires. Just how many of these conferences are you organising / going to? Your user page even mentions outreach in Micronesia ... that's just mind-boggling. Cheers for the New Year! – Liveste (talk • edits) 14:36, 28 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Wikimedia Stories Project

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Aloha!

My name is Victor and I work with the Wikimedia Foundation, the non-profit organization that supports Wikipedia. We're chronicling the inspiring stories of the Wikipedia community around the world, including those from readers, editors, and donors. Stories are absolutely essential for any non-profit to persuade new people to support the cause, and we know the vast network of people who use Wikipedia have so much to share.

Until this year, Wikipedia has largely relied upon personal appeals from founder Jimmy Wales to drive our annual fundraising efforts. Now we seek to convey the incredible diversity of people who've come to rely upon Wikipedia every day.

I'd really like the opportunity to interview you to tell your story, with the possibility of using it in our materials, on our community websites, or as part of this year’s fundraiser to encourage others to support Wikipedia.

I'm hoping you will elaborate on your story with me, either over the phone, by Skype, by facebook, by email, or any means you like. Please let me know if you're inclined to take part in the Wikipedia Stories Project and we'll set up a good time to discuss further.

Thank you,

Victor Grigas

user:victorgrigas

vgrigas@wikimedia.org Victor Grigas (talk) 18:38, 28 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the brownie

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I love brownies! :-) Graham87 03:43, 30 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Advice/Contribution

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Hey, I Wish you a Merry Christmas and a Happy News Year! I have been working expanding the Yuderqui Contreras article in user page. I would like to know if is possible for you to come by and check it out. I will also would like you to check for a possible DYK. Thanks in advance. Oscar 22:40, 30 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

 Done Thanks for all your compliments! You are so nice! I have cited the whole lead, the info in the lead appears in the body as requested in DYK, well cited. I can't wait for the nominations you just shooted. Oscar 04:38, 31 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Shalom

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and happy 2012!--Cordialement féministe ♀ Cordially feminist Geneviève (talk) 21:31, 2 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Jeremy Doyle

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The DYK project (nominate) 23:46, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

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Workshop

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Hi Laura I am interested in helping out with a workshop, so keep me informed. I have never written any featured articles, so I do not think I could meet the standard required to get points. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 20:27, 4 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Given the time frame involved, I think if we get one featured article PERIOD, it will be fantastic. If some one manages to get three or four GAs, I think they should have a pretty good chance. (1 GA and 1 wikinews story are the base requirements for being eligible.) That said, we'd love it if you had a workshop idea. :) I should be having a meeting next week to firm up the dates for workshops (they'll be on Fridays at NSIC). Any ideas for what you'd like to present or would like us to try to present about would be fantastic. :) --LauraHale (talk) 23:10, 4 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

False and irrelevant information

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Please do not introduce incorrect information into articles, as you did to Women's billiards in Australia. Your edits appear to violate Wikipedia's Verifiability policy and have been reverted. If you believe the information you added was correct, please cite references or sources or discuss the changes on the article's talk page before making them again. If you would like to experiment, use the sandbox. Thank you.. In particular, you must stop adding falsehoods to the article and citing sources you claim support them, but which say something completely different. You have blatantly falsified facts in that article twice, as well as repeatedly added totally irrelevant facts about Women's billiards in England, and Australian press reports about British topics, which have nothing to do with the subject. You have already been asked, in edit summaries, to stop engaging in both of these disruptive editing behaviors. — SMcCandlish Talk⇒ ʕ(Õلō)ˀ Contribs. 23:19, 4 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination for deletion of Template:Women's sport country topic

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Template:Women's sport country topic has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. — SMcCandlish Talk⇒ ʕ(Õلō)ˀ Contribs. 00:39, 5 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Wikipedia:WikiProject Women's sport

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Laura, for your tireless contributions and all your work to WikiProject Women's sport and Portal:Women's sport, I present you this original Cup in recognition, --Cordialement féministe ♀ Cordially feminist Geneviève (talk) 00:24, 6 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

A kitten for you!

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Thanks for working so hard organising competitions. Wish I could help out more.

--Sp33dyphil ©hatontributions 07:19, 6 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Jeremy Doyle

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Hi Laura, this is just to let you know that I've nominated the OTRS image of Jeremy Doyle for Featured Picture at Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Jeremy Doyle. As you worked on the article, you may be interested. Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:39, 8 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Roads infobox

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Hi,

I came across your comments at the recent TfD for the Roads/ Australian Roads infoboxes and I think you have some interesting ideas. Would you like to offer your thoughts at this discussion?

Regards, ClaretAsh 00:58, 9 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 09 January 2012

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DYK review

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Thanks for the review! I have made a few changes and I have a question in return. This is my first time at DYK so I am not sure if I should have used some of the tick/question icons or not, but anyway thanks again and please let me know if my corrections are sufficient. (Link: here) -Thibbs (talk) 00:27, 12 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Please respond

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Can you please response here? I'm afraid i'm very, very confused about your comment. SilverserenC 18:59, 12 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Talkback

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You have new message/s Hello. You have a new message at User talk:SMcCandlish's talk page.. — SMcCandlish Talk⇒ ʕ(Õلō)ˀ Contribs. 01:28, 13 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I've undone the mergers. Knock yourself out; I'm just going to ignore those pointless micro-stubs, since I have better ways to spend my time here than spin wheels against someone hell-bent on getting their way. If you can't see that creating pseudo-articles of baldfaced trivia, irrelevancies and even made-up "information" is worse than useless, being unencyclopedic, not to mention abusive, I'll let the rest of the editorship clean up after you. However, if I see you falsify a source again, as you've done twice already at what is now Women's cue sports in Australia, I will report you to WP:AN/I for blocking, because that's worse that vandalism. It's the cardinal Wikipedia sin, and doing it to push your personal socio-political agenda is not easily forgivable. "We're going to run into problems", as you put it, would be an understatement. Stop violating verifiability policy and we'll probably never have a problem again. — SMcCandlish Talk⇒ ʕ(Õلō)ˀ Contribs. 08:31, 13 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

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Thanks for your review of Dan Daniels. I notice your dispute with SMcCandlish above. It is a shame that you should have to put up with such unpleasantness. If you should ever need assistance in such a case, please feel free to call. Warden (talk) 12:08, 13 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sabbath Shalom - שלום שבת

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Hi. I'm at a loss for how to deal with recent issues related to women's sport. : / I opposed speedy deletion of women's sport in Australia made by Special:Contributions/SMcCandlish, tried to improve the sourcing as quickly as possible with was probably a bit of a liberal interpretation of the sources. :( Everything got tagged. There were WP:BOLD merges and what appeared to me to be threats to take the articles to WP:AFD. He said he would leave things alone on my talk page. (See the archive.) Now he's on Wikiproject: Women's sport. :( Sorry about that. I'm not certain how to deal with this. :( --LauraHale (talk) 20:29, 13 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sabbath Shalom Laura, It is the beginning of the Sabbath to me. I leave to go to pray in the synagogue in a few minutes. I am not of a big help for your demand. I understands your anxieties but I am neither patroller nor administrator, not director, here on wikipedia. I am only writing articles. I believe that we cannot prevent whoever (even a misogynous man) from being member of WikiProject Women's sport. On Wikipedia all the members are free to be a member in various wikiprojets . I cannot prevent persons as User:LtPowers or User:Oknazevad from joining the WikiProject Women's sport or joining the WikiProject Feminism. On wikipedia , Try to assume good faith... Do you remenber Racepacket?

The probleme on Wikipedia Thus to survive, it is necessary to show solidarity between women. It is whom we are now that 9 % of women (in Febuary 2011 we were 13 %). They have the law of the number and they can infiltrated by the inside the WikiProject Women's sport or the WikiProject Feminism. Otherwise in 2015, there will be only 2 % women who will still be members of Wikipedia. It is sad but that is now the reality of wikipedia (in english, in hebrew or in French). Everybody try to assume good faith but Between feminists we have to stand by each of us. Entre féministes nous devons être solidaires de chacune de nous.בין פמיניסטים שאנחנו צריכים לעמוד על ידי כל אחד מאיתנו. --Cordialement féministe ♀ Cordially feminist Geneviève (talk) 22:57, 13 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

My letter to SMcCandlish

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Bonjour Laura, j'ai écrit ce matin une lettre . Tu peux la consulter ici [1]. Hello Laura I wrote this morning a letter. You can consult here [2]. שלום כתבתי הבוקר מכתב. אתה יכול להתייעץ איתה כאן--Cordialement féministe ♀ Cordially feminist Geneviève (talk) 12:47, 14 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Can you please respond?

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You archived my request for response and did not respond to that talk page question directly or in the section I requested you to respond in. Can you please respond and clarify the meaning of your comment? SilverserenC 11:00, 14 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

That doesn't clarify anything. The Wikiproject is positive, not negative. I am currently helping a number of people who want to positively improve Wikipedia and follow our guidelines. I am teaching them how to do that and setting up a system for others to follow, so they know what the processes are to request a change to an article. SilverserenC 11:24, 14 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
GLAM clearly has a process that already works. If you would like, I can go and convince the other members to make sure that GLAM members are kept separate from the goals of the Wikiproject, as they are already being cared for within the boundaries of GLAM as it is. Would that work better? This Wikiproject is mainly for corporate entities, rather than galleries and museums. We wouldn't want to intrude on what GLAM does. You guys have been established for way longer and clearly have everything in a working order. SilverserenC 11:38, 14 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Milhist FA, A-Class and Peer Reviews Oct-Dec 2011

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The Military history reviewers' award
By order of the Military history WikiProject coordinators, for your devoted contributions to the WikiProject's Peer, A-Class and Featured article reviews for the period October–December 2011, I am delighted to award you the Military history WikiProject Reviewers' award. Buggie111 (talk) 17:11, 14 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Re: Wikimedians to the Games & WikiWomenCamp

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Hi Laura, thanks for the invitation to participate in Wikimedians to the Games. I'm not knowledgeable enough in sport to be of use and am a bit too busy to try and help. I am, however, interested in the WikiWomenCamp and would like to find out more. I use Wikipedia as a teaching tool and would like to get more formally involved. I'm particularly interested in WP in the context of teaching and information sharing. Kerry User talk:KteachK 3 Feb 2012 —Preceding undated comment added 01:13, 3 February 2012 (UTC).[reply]

Re: Text to speech

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Hi Laura, you can use Pediaphon to read Wikipedia articles via text-to-speech. I *could* make a recording, but it wouldn't be easy for me, and I'd use the same tools that are used on Pediaphon. Graham87 11:47, 11 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Invite to Wikimedians to the Games

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Thanks and no I haven't been invited. I am not into organised sports and I don't fly for environmental reasons so I guess I am ineligible. - Shiftchange (talk) 09:47, 16 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

A kitten for you!

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Thank you for helping ensure the survival of the article on Western Australia Roller Derby by providing a 3rd voice to the "notability" discussion.

Vector.Ward (talk) 00:17, 17 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 16 January 2012

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Re: Cleanup

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I've deleted the categories with "-related" in their titles. Was that what you wanted to be fixed? Graham87 06:53, 17 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Some falafel and one canadian beer for you!

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Laura, I learnt the death of the great skier Sarah Burke. It's crazy. The life is so fragile. Then thank you for being here and to work on the women sports project. Ce matin j'ai apprise le décès de la grande skieuse Sarah Burke. C'est fou. La vie est si fragile. Alors merci d'être là et de travailler avec moi --Cordialement féministe ♀ Cordially feminist Geneviève (talk) 20:24, 20 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Alice Coddington

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Casliber (talk · contribs) 08:03, 21 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Brigitte Ardossi

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Casliber (talk · contribs) 08:03, 21 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Barnstar

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The Original Barnstar
This barnstar is awarded to everyone who - whatever their opinion - contributed to the discussion about Wikipedia and SOPA. Thank you for being a part of the discussion. Presented by the Wikimedia Foundation.

DYK for Carly Wilson

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The DYK project (nominate) 00:02, 22 January 2012 (UTC)


Peer review of Pope John Paul II

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Hi Laura, I thought you might be interested in participating in this peer review. Kind Regards -- Marek.69 talk 01:51, 22 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Nicole Hunt

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The DYK project (nominate) 08:03, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

DYK issue

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Hi Laura. Since you participated in a previous discussion regarding reuse of PD text in DYK submissions, you may be interested in contributing to a recent discussion on the same topic, here, or the proposal which follows it. Regards, Gatoclass (talk) 01:39, 24 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

99% declaration has been nominated for deletion

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Feel free to weigh in on the discussion here: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/99 Percent Declaration (2nd nomination).--Amadscientist (talk) 11:26, 24 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Happy Australia Day

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Australian of the Day Award
Downing a snag and a stubbie is a must for Australia's very own day, this award is being given to you for your hard work and taking a sickie when you need to, not doing so is very unAustralian. Celebrate this day by doing everything Australian and fly the Australian flag with pride! Bidgee (talk) 20:17, 25 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Australian Wikimedian Recognition

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Thanks very much, Laura! Happy Australia Day to you also. Graham87 01:49, 26 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

wow

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happy australia day too... where are you getting your active list from, i can think of at least a few more....SatuSuro 02:02, 26 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

btw little fairies tell me your facilitating the rcc went well! hope there is something up somewhere to give non attendants an idea what was what... cheers SatuSuro 02:05, 26 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you

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May your Australian Day also be well. --Falcadore (talk) 02:49, 26 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thought I'd drop by and say thank you before I slip some shrimps on the barbie. Melburnian (talk) 06:00, 26 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Many thanks, and I hope your Australia Day was also successful. Frickeg (talk) 08:17, 26 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Laura, celebrated with a pie, chips and tim tams. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 08:36, 26 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thx Laura, will we manage to get you out there swearing an Oz Day in the near future? Couldn't get to RCC this year, family duties called, so I hope it was fun. I haven't yet caught JV to get the juicy details. All the best, and I hope that all is well for you. — billinghurst sDrewth 13:31, 26 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Squee! Thanks and have a good one. Miracle Pen (talk) 15:55, 26 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 23 January 2012

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Photos

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Hi! I understand that we will differ on whether or not it is better to have any photo over no photo, and I'm ok with that, but I did have to remove two - Molly Lewis (basketball) and Michelle Cosier. In the case of these two articles, the only photo showed just the backs of their heads, so I was concerned that they detracted from the articles and might limit the chance that someone would choose to look for a replacement. Hopefully Bidgee has something that we could use, and I'll dig around online and see what turns up. - Bilby (talk) 14:21, 28 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Marianna Tolo

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Casliber (talk · contribs) 08:02, 29 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Lauren Jansen

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Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:04, 31 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Carrie Graf

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Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:04, 31 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 30 January 2012

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DYK for Hannah Bowley

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Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 1 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Michelle Cosier

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This Month in GLAM: January 2012

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DYK for Mikaela Dombkins

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The DYK project (nominate) 08:02, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Molly Lewis (basketball)

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The DYK project (nominate) 08:02, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Rebecca Haynes

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The DYK project (nominate) 16:03, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Michaela Dalgleish

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The DYK project (nominate) 00:03, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Nicole Romeo

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The DYK project (nominate) 00:03, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Jessica Bibby

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The DYK project (nominate) 08:03, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Natalie Porter

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The DYK project (nominate) 08:03, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

An idea

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Hi Laura,

I had an idea that might tie in with your work on the Olympics and Paralympics. There are four months until the Olympics, roughly. We could have as one of those months an on-wiki competition, perhaps tied to WP:CONTRIB or Wikipedia:WikiProject Images and Media or maybe WikiProject Sport, to improve images on sports articles. The challenge would be to find sports-related articles that don't have images, then either locate an image that hasn't already been added to Wikipedia to illustrate it: either take one, get one from Flickr, get an unused image from Commons, or ask some nice person to license one. I've just added two pictures from Flickr, to Indoor cricket and to Off-road triathlon. There are undoubtedly many other pages describing sports or rules of sports etc. that do not have good images, and do not have links to the relevant Commons categories. Unlike the sort of abstract philosophical academic stuff I spend my time pondering, there's no good reason for this. It's not like for sports stars, where we might not be able to get a good photo of a top-level player. It's not like we need photos of the 1973 world championship canoe race, and they are hard to find. To illustrate the articles of the sports themselves, we can find photos of both professional and amateur competitions, and self-published photos by amateurs on Flickr.

Having alluring images is important to draw people in, and obviously we could reward this with some WikiMedals, and some rosettes too. Gold, silver and bronze medals can go to the people who improve images on articles related to Olympic, Winter Olympic and Paralympic sports. For non-Olympic/Winter Olympic/Paralympic sports, there can be coloured rosettes for the top three competitors, and so on. Seem like a fun idea? —Tom Morris (talk) 02:55, 7 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

As a random aside first, the reason the Paralympic outreach program with sending Wikimedians to the Paralympic Games is because the project is fundamentally a history project. They want to document the past history of the Paralympic movement in Australia. Thus, there is a need to emphasize to above all else the writing of the history of the movement. (Secondary to that, the APC is paying for eight photographers to go to the Games. They will be donating some pictures using a Creative Commons license to Commons after the Games. As an institution, they do not need more of that.)
That said, it would be great to see images of sports improved on Commons that can be used on Wikipedia in all languages and for Wikinews. Your idea sounds like it would be awesome. I've toyed with the idea of trying to do something like Wiki Loves Monuments for sports. I'm reasonably confident I could probably get some exhibition space for winning photographs at an Australian sporting place. (I've also toyed with the idea of a Wikipedia centric sports related conference. I've got the space if I want it. I can probably get some sport people there. I just don't have the funding to bring in overseas guests.) But yeah. Babbling. I'm all for that. It would be pretty fantastic to have a sport related contest to see more recent and better photographs. :) Some of the photographers were have are just truly awesome. They don't do much sport photography but I don't think they necessarily see the potential opportunities to have the contacts to easily show up at events. --LauraHale (talk) 03:04, 7 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Merci de ton petit chat

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I thank you for your little cat. I love cats ( j'adore les chats es ce que tu le sais, ici au Canada je suis entourée de chats ). But in 2011 I have rather to meet the human poverty and rats (when villages are destroyed). I hope that on 2012 will give us feminist victories and one golden medal in hockey world championship at Burlington, Vermont USA in April. A feminist song just for you darling , Prend soin de toi bisou, אני תודה על החתול הקטן שלך . אני אוהב חתולים . אבל ב2011 שאני ט. מאוד פגוש עוני אנושי והחולדות . אני מקווה שזה ב2012 יתן לנו ניצחונות פמיניסט ומדליון זהוב לאליפויות העולם של ההוקי. שיר פמיניסט בעברית בשבילך--Cordialement féministe ♀ Cordially feminist Geneviève (talk) 02:29, 8 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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DYK for Sara Blicavs

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The Signpost: 13 February 2012

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Thanks for the kitten

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You may be interested in Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Maps#WP:BIAS_issues. You're welcome to copyedit and/or and your support. Stuartyeates (talk) 06:58, 15 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]


DYK for Tessa Lavey

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DYK for Olivia Thompson

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Hi Laura, thanks for your review and edit. I have fixed the close paraphrasing concern. Please re-review the article, I hope it is ok now. --SupernovaExplosion Talk 07:20, 20 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks :D The nom was getting really old. --SupernovaExplosion Talk 07:33, 20 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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HOPAU/W2G

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Hi Laura. I can't commit to being available for London, but to get some competition going amongst those who are, I hereby submit this new Featured List: Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/2000 Summer Paralympics medal table/archive1. --99of9 (talk) 04:37, 21 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]



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Quite a few " men's" pages in WMNSPORT

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Hi from a fellow WMAu member.

I have noticed quite a few pages with " men's" in the title have been added to WP:WMNSPORT by the bot you requested. I have suggested a review on the bot's page, but it may not be the best place to attempt a fix. Mark Hurd (talk) 10:25, 24 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]


DYK and referencing

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Hey Laura, I figured I'd take this here instead of the DYK pages, as I believe it to be a generic issue and not really related to any particular article or DYK.

I was a bit mystified by one comment in the review about cites in the Flexon article. But then when I went and looked at the article, I saw you had marked it up, and I now suspect I understand what you were getting at. And if I have divided this correctly, I'd like to spawn a discussion on the topic, because I believe it is a major problem. So, sit back, get comfortable, and hopefully enjoy what follows.

I joined the Wiki shortly after it formed, and have edited continually since 2002. Back in the early days there was nothing like citations, because were were all a bunch of guys (mostly) trying to make a better planet. So if someone posted some External links to articles they used to do the writeup, great, but if they didn't, we generally trusted them.

But then the Wiki got popular. When that happened the griefers showed up and started ruining articles for fun. At the same time, lots of what would best be described as "cruft" appeared. And along with this came the press, who were both interested and scared crapless about the entire Wiki concept, which flies in the face of the elitism that infests the press (IMHO, of course).

That resulted in a perfect storm. With everyone watching so closely, it was only a matter of time before someone blew up over some graffiti, and the press was there to turn out their latest moral panic. Sadly, cooler heads did not prevail, and the result of this scrutiny was a blizzard of new regulations written mostly by people who didn't actually write articles, but spend most of their time writing about articles. If you fail to meet these standards, articles are simply erased without notice.

The result, today, is a confusing mash of overriding concepts that are both confusing and contradictory. The regulations are so deep, that we've made it practically impossible for new editors to join up. As a result, editing is plummeting. I am very much worried that this project is dying.

Now for new editors, this isn't really the same issue as it was for older ones. If you've recently joined the project, as in your case, that's just the way it is. For the rest of us, it's fighting the powers that be.

Soooooo… why am I brining all of this up?

A major part of the fruhaha had to do with citations. When you don't actually write articles, it's very easy to demand that you have one for every word in the article. If you do write articles, then you know it's very much harder to do this. Two camps formed, one that demanded citations on everything, and another that said the old-school is fine. Both camps still exist.

But, the real outcome was a middle ground, as one would hope from a collaborative effort:

In particular, sources are required for material that is challenged or likely to be challenged – if reliable sources cannot be found for challenged material, it is likely to be removed from the article. Sources are also required when quoting someone, with or without quotation marks, or closely paraphasing a source. However, the citing of sources is not limited to those situations – editors are always encouraged to add or improve citations for any information contained in an article.

The key points in this statement are that you do not need a cite for everything, just those statements that are likely to be challenged or in the case of quotes. Over time we also developed a simple rule of thumb, that every paragraph of body text should have one citation - but this is a rule of thumb, not a requirement. In fact, end-of-article citations are perfectly fine, meeting all MOS needs.

In spite of this common sense middle ground approach, there are those who remain philosophically attached to one position or another. In particular, there are editors who demand a citation at the end of every paragraph, even if it is covering items within. There is no requirement for this, anywhere, but they demand it anyway. This has spawned multiple threads in the DYK discussion pages, but without fail they all end up with a split decision and no change. As a result:

DYK only needs one inline cite in the entire article, on fact mentioned in the hook.

No really, look it up!

Now of course any article has to meet basic guidelines, and that goes for DYK by default. So what does the guideline for articles say? There is no need for cites in every paragraph, unless it includes material likely to be challenged. Many of the cite tags you put in the Flexon article is on introductory material of no consequence of claim of fact. Stuff like "the sun rises in the east" and "Some designs have a lip moulded into the foot section that controls this stopping point" simply doesn't require a cite. And I'm really not sure why you want one on a section header (look, you'll see what I mean)!

For contrast, I personally find that articles with too many inlines are rendered difficult to read and extremely difficult to edit. I hope you don't think I'm picking on you, but when I look at Victoria Brown (water polo) I'm dismayed. Do I really need a citation marker on the question of whether or not Victoria brushes her teeth? I suspect most people do. Yet as a result of this "over citification". the citations are of the page is longer than the article body, and is rendered unreadable because of images and quote boxes displaying on top of it. Does this really help the reader, or hinder them?

YMMV, as always.

In any event, the basic issue that's been going back and forth in DYK is that a demand for cites on everything means that DYK has higher standards that FA or in some readings, FA. This is clearly not the purpose of the DYK. The rule of thumb applies, but there's nothing about it being at the end of the para or anything like that.

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DYK nomination of Tessa Lavey

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Hello! Your submission of Tessa Lavey at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Cloudz679 10:25, 18 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

No problem, looks like DYK has quite a problem with approved hooks at the moment, glad to clear at least one! Good work with the articles by the way, looks like you're doing a great job. Cloudz679 12:08, 18 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Your articles seem to be substantial though, I find a lot of mine are stubs! I'm sure you will get a Four Award one day! Cloudz679 12:17, 18 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I have my second DYK going on the main page in 15 minutes but I have created 457 pages! By the way I wouldn't worry about DYKing as many AIS players as you want (just not at the same time!), I saw one user who had done DYKs on what seemed to be every American Footballer who had represented one particular university! Good luck and please don't hesitate to contact me if you need a reviewer. I know the wait sometimes can be agonising! Cloudz679 12:44, 18 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]


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Hi Laura, File:5 February 2011 Canberra v Logan Thunder.ogv which you uploaded and added to the Logan Thunder article appears to be upside-down! You probably should rotate it ;) Regards, Nick-D (talk) 03:54, 25 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Running a bot to remove articles from WikiProject Sports

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It seems you are the only regular at WikiProject Sports. Could you give an answer to my proposal at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Sports? btw... nice to see you doing water polo players the past couple of days. It and badminton are my favourite Olympic sports. I see all new living biographies created every day and seeing water polo is a nice break from all the footballers. Bgwhite (talk) 06:18, 25 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I did a reply at WP Sports. Unfortunately, I live in America... Great Britain water polo team?? Never heard of such of a thing. NBC only shows U.S. women's water polo games in the middle of the night on some obscure channel. More importantly, what in the ($@)$# are you doing on Wikipedia when your dissertation is due in April? Egads, I was going nuts on my lowly master's thesis. You have my sympathies and condolences. Bgwhite (talk) 09:53, 25 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]


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Thank you for the thorough review! (I'm a bit impressed) I will try to address the issues mentioned shortly. Most of the parts you - rightly - tagged for citation are in the sources themselves, I'll just have to be explicit about which ones. Thanks. One thing, you state "I've read and reread the paragraph about this" - I'm not sure which paragraph specifically you're referring to.VolunteerMarek 00:58, 27 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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