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Con High

The article does need some work, doesn't it. I've left a note at Eye of God's talk page about the disruptions. Tony (talk) 12:35, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

Do you think this article should be semi protected for a while? --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 16:17, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

I actually think that all school articles should be indefinitely semiprotected (to (a) reduce vandalism/cyberbullying/etc.; and (b) encourage more school users to register and thus become productive members of the community), but I highly doubt that this will ever become reality.
Specifically in regards to Xavier, under the current regime regarding protection, no I don't think so. While there has been vandalism, it's been sporadic over quite a long time period. I don't think this justifies semi-protection per the points at WP:SILVERLOCK. If you'd like to use your discretion and semi-protect it anyway, I wouldn't object (because it aligns with what I said, above, in my first paragraph). ˜danjel [ talk | contribs ] 18:09, 20 August 2011 (UTC)
Keep your eye on it then and if there is much more crap from IPs such as nn alumni let me know and I'll lock it for a couple of weeks. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 00:48, 21 August 2011 (UTC)
Will do. ˜danjel [ talk | contribs ] 04:38, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

Emanuel School

Hi Daniel,

My name is Joel, I go to the Emanuel School.

Although I am new to Wikipedia, I felt it necessary to not release the coordinates of my school, due to the risk of an anti-Semitic attack (I know this may seem quite distanced, but nevertheless a concern of mine.)

I hope you do not find this email an intrusion of your privacy, and you delete the coordinates/address. Joel — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.173.52.193 (talk) 12:39, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

G'day Josh, I know a bunch of your teachers and classmates... :) I used to teach at a school nearby and some of my students went to your's after graduation.
(a) I think you worry too much, and (b) I think that your worry is misplaced. In regards to (a), there is no credible threat to Emanuel. I am aware of how much your school spends on security, and I'm sure that they have everything under control moment to moment. I actually think that the school with which I worked had more problems with campus invasions, grafiti (anti-Semitic and otherwise) and attacks generally. Personally, I'd look to the activity on the Emanuel article here. There hasn't been a single instance of anti-Semitic vandalism on that article since the article was created.
In regards to (b), even if there was a credible threat, people so inclined would be more inclined to check the yellow pages or the front of a street directory than wikipedia.
All of that being said, if you want to help out here on wikipedia (in regards to improving Emanuel's article, for example), then I suggest that you register and watchlist the article. ˜danjel [ talk | contribs ] 12:54, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

Goodness me!

Either you, or I, (or perhaps both of us?) must be mellowing with age, because I not only agree with your recent edit, but I also agree with your edit summary. Pdfpdf (talk) 13:01, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

Notability: Schools

There is currently a long and important thread at User talk:Jimbo Wales #Notability of High Schools. This may finally be the opportunity we are hoping for to get any ambiguities cleared up regarding any perceived interpretations of (non)notability. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 16:29, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. I'll read through it tomorrow when I'm more conscious than I am now (lots of stuff happening at work, don't ask). ˜danjel [ talk | contribs ] 16:49, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

Requesting third party input for on-going issues with a school article

I am requesting third party input for help at coming to a unbiased determination on edits and content that should be allow/omitted from the Northwestern High School (Hyattsville, Maryland) article. I previously requested formal mediation out of error. The request for formal mediation was rejected and it was suggested I access the WikiSchools page to see if an administrator could help with the disputes. I have seen you make several posts and read your talk page, and you seem quite knowledgeable. Below, I have listed the on-going issues. I apologize for the large content, but I need this to be clear the first time, so there's no confusion and needless back-and-forth:

  • Way too many conflicting parties/editors giving their own input on what changes need to be made to the article, and when changes are made to appease one editor, another will come through and state they are completely unhappy with the revisions made. Prime example, I was just reading through WP:WPSCH/AG which is the official Wikipedia guidelines on how to write/edit a school article. I came across a section that specifically states a section highlighting the schools' EXTRACURRICULAR ACTIVITIES, should be added — I once added a very nice Extracurricular Activities section — it was subsequently removed by a rogue editor who claimed it had no relevance in the article and, again, violated some sort of Wikipedia policy.
  • Blatant hypocrisy... I have been chastised numerous times for content either added or omitted from this article, but when I go look at the article of another school that is a "Featured Article" (a school that was specifically pointed out by Wikipedia to use as example to base an article off of) I'll see the EXACT same content that was either removed from the article I was editing OR I was told the information was violating some sort of Wikipedia policy and thus it's affecting the quality of the article. One example is a Course Offerings section. The original section was over-detailed and did (in a way) violate Wikipedia's guidelines. It was later shortened and cleaned-up to comply to Wiki policies, by an administrator. Many months later (just the other day), a random Wikipedia editor came to the article and completely erased that section, citing it had no place in the article. The content MIRRORED the Academics section found on FA of Stuyvesant High School. Why is okay for Stuyvesant (a Featured Article) to outline their course offerings but it's not okay for Northwestern??
  • There have been many different editors which have been through the Northwestern article. Again, many have seen the content of the page and determined it was quality work for the most part and went as far to access the Discussion page to highlight what needs to be done to improve the quality of the article so it can move up on the quality scale. Out of the blue, another random editor will come out of nowhere and start slapping red flags everywhere and eventually it's now gotten to the point where an article that was recently rated a C-Class article (close to being a B-Class), is now somehow a Start-Class article!
  • I have specifically been accused of basically being a "hard head" and refusing to comply with the guidelines set by a specific editor, and subsequently threatened by said editor(s) citing they would find a way to make it so I was banned from further editing the Northwestern article. The most insane part is (based on what they cited to come to that point) I wasn't responsible for the edit/revision that infuriated this editor.

Thank you in advance. --Maryland Pride ... a Wikipedia contributor (talk) 01:37, 30 August 2011 (UTC)


G'day Maryland Pride,
I've had a quick look at the article, and it actually looks pretty good... Certainly more comprehensive than other articles that I've seen. Be careful about WP:OWNership of articles, because this can become a problem... Seems like you're a little bit too emotionally connected.
In any case, to respond to the points that you've made:
  • Can you find the diff of the extracurricular activities section that you had made previously? I don't seem to be able to find it in my (admittedly cursory) look over the history. I, and I believe other WP:WPSCH editors, should be OK with such a section.
  • There are some problems with the course offerings section... I don't think that it needs to be in a table on it's own. Prose (i.e., paragraphs and sections if necessary) would be better. Stuyvesant High School has this section in prose. This is what User:Lucas20 and other editors meant.
  • I have no idea why User:LonelyBeacon decided to assess the article as Start... Seems like s/he's missing the point of what the assessment is for. I've reassessed to C, per the guidelines at WP:WPSCH/A. Note, however, that because I'm not a member of WP:WPMD, I'm not willing to assess from their perspective, and I would suggest that, being that you are closely involved with the article, you find a 4th party from that project to assess against their requirements.
  • I can't see any indication on your talk page that you're topic-banned from editting the article. I can see that people were close to asking for a topic ban...
Which brings me to my final point. Be really careful about becoming too closely tied to any article here on Wikipedia. Keep your WP:COOL, be WP:CIVIL and avoid WP:OWNership.
I think you should go over and rewrite that course offerings section... That really does need to be done sooner rather than later. I think then that people will accept that you're editing in good faith. I'll keep the article on my watchlist, but, being that I usually limit myself to Australian Schools, please don't expect too much in terms of editorial contribution from me. I'll jump into discussions where necessary though. Have several nice days. ˜danjel [ talk | contribs ] 04:52, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
Thank you very kindly. You've been most helpful. To touch on a few points... I would like to start out by asking if you can provide me any means of finding other editors or admins who deal mostly with U.S. schools? I found you using WikiProject Schools but it wasn't liked towards a specific region/country.
With that said, I'm glad you've done what you could. As far me being 'emotionally tied' to the article... not really. I have contributed more to this article than anyone else, but, I have absolutely NO issues with any edits esp. because I have no ownership over the article. My biggest issue seemed to be a double standard. I had pointed out the Stuyvesant article on numerous occasions and no one responded to the inquiry. As editors/admins or whomever else on this vast world of Wikipedia, I would expect that if someone is going to revert someone else's edits, they are obligated to give a detailed explanation as to why — and also they need to give a detailed explanation on what other steps they need to take. The impression I got from the two editors I was going back and forth with, was that particular section had absolutely zero relevancy, at all. On the converse, you took time to explain to me what needed to be done and I understood completely. I can easily find an old version of the Northwestern article and create a new 'course offerings' section to mirror the format of Stuyvesant's.
Also, I spent the last several hours reading WP:WPSCH/AG and making revisions on the article to try and comply with Wikipedia school article writing standards to increase the chances of the article eventually being rated a B-Class. If you wish, you can recheck the article.
One last note... I re-added the 'Extracurricular Activities' section using the official list from Northwestern High School. It's no big deal. I'm sure it would have been tremendously hard for you to have found the old version as I believe it was deleted in one mass edit, rather than a single edit.
Feel free to give any other suggestions if you so choose. Thanks again. At least I know that, while I wasn't totally correct, I surely wasn't as crazy as others were making me seem! --Maryland Pride ... a Wikipedia contributor (talk) 05:42, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
Good oh. Now that I'm home, I'm going to take a closer look. What I meant by "emotionally tied" was that you seem to be... Yeah. A little stressed. Take it easy. :) ˜danjel [ talk | contribs ] 09:00, 30 August 2011 (UTC)

OK mate, I made a bunch of changes... I've tried to stay away from issues that may be exclusively WP:EiA approaches, so the changes I've made should be uncontroversial. Let's discuss here (or there) if you're worried about any of the changes that I've made, yeah?

I think, actually, that it's going pretty well... Extracurricular activities section looks OK to me.

You asked before about how to find a US schools admin/editor... You can post at the project. It might take a little while to get a response, but you just have to be patient. ˜danjel [ talk | contribs ] 09:59, 30 August 2011 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Barnstar of Diplomacy
I know this might be a little late, but a barnstar for trying to resolve peacefully the debate on Talk:2010#Prime Minister Julia Gillard. – Plarem (User talk contribs) 14:34, 25 September 2011 (UTC)
Hmmm. I don't think that situation was "peacefully resolved". It was left unresolved with one user declaring that the content being put forward was unacceptable because... Because... Because s/he just didn't like it. Never got a better reason out of that discussion.
That was despite fulfilling the requirements of WP:RY through significant international coverage in reliable sources. I walked away because there was never going to be any traction on the issue with a user who WP:OWNs the article in question so hard and it was outside my own area of editing interest.
Thanks, in any case, for the recognition. I'd prefer if you edited in "attempting to peacefully resolve" to the above? :) ˜danjel[ talk | contribs ] 18:16, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

Well, yes... – Plarem (User talk contribs) 18:22, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

Heh. Cheers.. :) ˜danjel[ talk | contribs ] 18:25, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Schools Barnstar
For all your work and concerns for quality of Oz school articles :) Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 09:02, 2 October 2011 (UTC)

Thanks mate. :) ˜danjel[ talk | contribs ] 09:53, 2 October 2011 (UTC)

Hi. let me have your take on this please, or feel free to tag it yourself if you think it's not notable. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 11:35, 5 October 2011 (UTC)

Ergh. I think it is notable and NZ Herald is regionally significant. But that's so brief I'd hesitate to even call it a stub. I think User:WhisperToMe should be poked into improving it. ˜danjel [ talk | contribs ] 11:48, 5 October 2011 (UTC)
Template:Expand is deprecated... What replaced it? It seems ridiculous to have nothing to say "DON'T LEAVE THIS AS A THREE SENTENCE STUB". ˜danjel [ talk | contribs ] 11:59, 5 October 2011 (UTC)

Temasek Secondary School Debate

In reference to the post you posted onto my talk page, this is my reply: Hi Danjel, i apologies if i have breached any guidelines in anyway. However, please understand that i do understand that wiki pages are not promotional. Please however notethat theissue of schools using their wiki pages to promote themselves is espeacually rampant in wikis of singaore schools. Also, Singapore laws and legislation govern such issues regarding schools. It is the civil responsibility of the student to inform the school managment if such things occur. I had already guessed that AngelSL would not be an upper sec student judging of the poor understanding of the school. If action must be taken, as a senior, action must be taken. I would like to ask you not interfere with this internal issue. I am not trying to be rude in anyway but i absolutly cannot stand people deleting or editing wiki pages they have no knowledge of. Please do contact me if you have any issues. (Juinnano (talk) 11:46, 6 October 2011 (UTC))

Yes, I saw your post. I have not seen evidence of User:AngelSL misrepresenting the school in any way, but I am seeing evidence of his/her better understanding of wikipedia policies and a will to actually improve the article.
You clearly don't understand what's going on here. This is not an internal issue for the school. This is a wikipedia issue. The article must conform with wikipedia policies and should comply with consensus generated guidelines. No amount of ad hominem against him/her on your part will change that. ˜danjel [ talk | contribs ] 13:02, 6 October 2011 (UTC)

DYK nomination of J J Cahill Memorial High School

Hello! Your submission of J J Cahill Memorial High School at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! PM800 (talk) 03:04, 7 October 2011 (UTC)

I personally think it is hookier in the shorter format (that's why I tried to cut back on what I saw as blubber). Regarding the "misrepresentation", I disagree; what a reader may imply from a quick glance at the hook is not always the same as the literal meaning of the hook. However, if you want to rework the original to keep the name of the school near the front of the hook, that's no problem; I'd prefer the target article to be near the front to keep it focused. Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:03, 12 October 2011 (UTC)
Thanks Crisco. I figure you know hooks better than me, but I just want to be careful about how I represent someone else's work as well. I've rewritten it slightly... I think this is better than both our versions. I'm about to sleep; if you still think it needs work, send it back from Prep for me. Cheers. ˜danjel [ talk | contribs ] 14:14, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

DYK for J J Cahill Memorial High School

Orlady (talk) 12:04, 14 October 2011 (UTC)

Protection

Don't hesitate to ask me directly if you feel a school page should be protected. I'm online most of the time. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 07:17, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

Can or can't

Hey Danjel! Don't know whether to merge this new section, w/ above...

I've gotten a request from someone I know, and they've asked me if it's possible to make this article. Part of the message this person sent me,:

"The artist is 'Matthew Najar' based in Australia (unsure of which part, I need to double check on his research). He's a mid-range kind of act, has a large fanbase (20,200 active users on his Facebook page and over 26,000 fans - amazing hit ratio) and has started to work with acts unofficially such as John Mayer etc. Thats what I can tell and know from what I have available to me; I thought I could somehow arrange to get a Wikipedia page setup to account for this success as part of my work for his label."

Now I'm unsure of this - would it pass WP:BLP, better yet, WP:N -- if it, as of yet, has no media sources? How do I respond to this if it doesn't? I know I should know all this by now - I'm just really out of it today ;) Thanks -- MSTR (Chat Me!) 08:53, 8 November 2011 (UTC)

I think that WP:SIGCOV is going to the major issue here. There needs to be some reliable sources before you can start thinking about notability even. Google doesn't give us much here... Triple J Unearthed might be a good starting point though... Not sure. I think this is a "stay tuned" situation. ˜danjel [ talk | contribs ] 09:00, 8 November 2011 (UTC)
Mhmm...I found this on the subjects official website [1] - it's an article - only issue is, it's not available on a website...click onto it, and you'll see what I mean :) (hopefully) -- MSTR (Chat Me!) 09:05, 8 November 2011 (UTC)
Yeah I don't think that's enough... At least until you can figure out where it comes from. ˜danjel [ talk | contribs ] 09:10, 8 November 2011 (UTC)
Sixty Magazine -- MSTR (Chat Me!) 09:12, 8 November 2011 (UTC)
From that, I'm pretty sure that's not a reliable source. Student published is usually... Hmm. Check it against WP:RSVETTING and maybe ask at WP:RSN. ˜danjel [ talk | contribs ] 09:24, 8 November 2011 (UTC)
Pretty intense vandal-fighting going on :) anyway, I'll keep everything on hold,with the article, until notability catches up with him. Thank you! -- MSTR (Chat Me!) 09:33, 8 November 2011 (UTC)
Fun times! ˜danjel [ talk | contribs ] 09:35, 8 November 2011 (UTC)

Formspring

Danjel! Haven't spoken in a while, hope you are doing alright :D

Anyway. The fun part.

Okay, as you possibly may know, I've been working a lot on the Aziz Shavershian article. Looking at it right now, I feel like it's still missing information - so in other words I feel it's incomplete, and is yet to reach its full potential.

Formspring - hope your familliar with - is where people ask the person with the FS account, questions. All types of questions. Then the person who has the account, answers them or can ignore them, etc. whatever suites them. By my understanding, Formspring is a social networking site, and whilst Aziz was alive, he managed his own account with Formspring, answering his fans and followers their questions etc.

What I'm asking is - is it possible to perhaps use some of the Q&A's in the article? not for controversial information, obviously, but for questions relating to what his UAI ranking was, what religion he is, where his family came from, what years he immigrated, his educational history - look, everything we need to know about him, he has written about.

It kind of kills me inside to be requesting this, you know? If using FS as a source is inadmissible, a shame it would be - would you happen to know any other way I can get information for this article? Aziz has died. And as someone who has tried to developing the article, I don't want the article to die too. The media, has used his facebook, formspring and other sites about him as primary sources for their articles, so does that legitimize the social networks in this a case...even a little? Thank you -- MSTR (Chat Me!) 06:43, 2 November 2011 (UTC)

Hmm. Yeah I know Formspring. My thoughts are that it would be inherently and essentially an self published source about self. So long as you can meet the requirements there, then it shouldn't be a problem. That is:
  1. the material is not unduly self-serving;
  2. it does not involve claims about third parties;
  3. it does not involve claims about events not directly related to the source;
  4. there is no reasonable doubt as to its authenticity;
  5. the article is not based primarily on such sources.
In which case, I can't imagine there being problems. ˜danjel [ talk | contribs ] 09:10, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
Hate to be annoying or anything, but a) would you be able to give me an example from his Formspring? (please excuse the profanity he uses in some cases; the first three pages should have a few instences where he mentions facts tied in with the article such as his UAI, Birthdate; etc) also "Zyzz" is his own persona in which he takes it upon himself to be known as a "troll", so there may be some weird questions, matched up with weird answers. B) How would I use formspring as a reference - as in how would I reference it in the article? Use it as an external link only, or just simply </ref> it like the rest?
And one more thing, I'm fammiliar with WP:BLP; WP:NPOV etc. and also know not to add trivial or controversial information in, esp. with a source like this one. When I go through all the FS, can I show you a selection of appropriate Q&A's for the article? Thank you so much, -- MSTR (Chat Me!) 11:11, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
Ahh... I tried, I really did. But... As I think I've said before, this is a general area in which I have exactly zero interest. So I can't read into it in much detail without getting distracted by shiny objects.
I think the response where he responded to something in Fairfax (I presume either The Age or SMH) could be useful to you in some way. It's an example of a FS post that has enough detail to actually develop it out.
If you click on the "question" itself it'll give the reference url. Then just cite web as usual. Make sure you have "Formspring" in the title= section. ˜danjel [ talk | contribs ] 12:02, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
That is totally fine :D a lot of things I'm not interested with on the encyclopedia too.
I already went through a couple pages noting some important q&a's, as you say by clicking on the questions and copying their links. I'll figure out how to add them in - tommorow. I'm tired too. Both better get off, we have got school tommorow...exciting. Thank you -- MSTR (Chat Me!) 12:07, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
Oh please don't remind me... My Year 6 class is losing its collective mind at the moment. Term 4; everyone thinks that it's all over. ˜danjel [ talk | contribs ] 12:16, 2 November 2011 (UTC)

In a somewhat related issue, for Aziz's brother's page, I would suggest that it falls into not news and people notable for one event categories. A petty criminal who has appeared in different newspaper for one minor crime isn't necessarily notable enough to warrant a page on Wikipedia. Thoughts? N·worsn (parlez-moi) 14:31, 8 November 2011 (UTC)

Why am I suddenly the expert on beefcakes? Did I put an "ask me about muscle-bound narcissists" userbox on my userpage in some report writing haze at some point? Why can't someone ask me about schools ffs.
Sorry if I'm sounding a bit short, I've taken the day off from my hormone soaked students - end of school dance coming up, and So-and-so wants What's-his-face to ask her out, but he's already asked Jane Doe who rejected him for favour of John who asked her later that day and everyone thinks Miss [Name Withheld] is too pretty to ask and... AHH WHY ARE MY STUDENTS INVOLVING ME IN THIS SOAP OPERA???
So, I've taken an involuntary vow of silence for some reason, but the builders on the block next to me decided to wake me up with some sort of pagan "welcome the Sun" ceremony which has now stopped because (a) the sacrificial virgin/apprentice chickened out; (b) their high priest had done sort of euphoria-induced aneurism; or (c) now that 0745 has passed and the entire street is awake whether they like it or not anyway, there is no longer any need for: (1) shouting obscenities at each other; (2) banging of metal things in some sort of demented industrial staccato; (3) operation of heavy machinery because it's there (File:NewNote.pngif you have a diesel generator and you know it, turn it onFile:NewNote.png); (4) power tools that can only be operated in the light of dawn; (5) revving of truck engines because if you've got a truck, you might as well never park it, as such, just repeatedly gun the engine to stay on the gentle slope of my street for 45 minutes (who says you need brakes). Seriously, I think construction has stopped for the day... WTF??? And, yet, I can't get back to sleep.
As for the article, I don't know (or, as I may have inadvertently communicated above, care). Seems like the article asserts notability for more than just whatever the crime was. Coverage seems OK. If he was just a petty criminal, then why is he getting mentioned in the Fairfax media? ˜danjel [ talk | contribs ] 21:12, 8 November 2011 (UTC)

G'day Danjel. This sch. in Dandenong is in a bit of a mess. If you like, with your expertise, you could have a go at expanding and cleaning it up - it's only a stub, If you can't, just list it for attn. at WP:WPSCH. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 13:33, 13 November 2011 (UTC)

I've started work on the article in my userspace User:Danjel/St_John's_Regional_College. I think I might know a teacher at the school so I'll see if I can rouse up some more information than that which I can find at the school's website and news.google.com.au. ˜danjel [ talk | contribs ] 11:31, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

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I know you are probably terribly busy, But when someone needs assistance with an article related to schools, you are the first person to go to. An editor has kindly asked for my assistance, and what they're asking, is a bit too complicated for my 15-year old understanding :) would you be able to assist? Thank you, -- MSTR (Chat Me!) 11:33, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

 Done Yay, something within my realm of interest, that I actually know AND can help with! ˜danjel [ talk | contribs ] 11:48, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

Thank you! :) -- MSTR (Chat Me!) 11:58, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
No worries. Do you want to mark 27 year 6 math tests for me? ˜danjel [ talk | contribs ] 12:18, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
THIS JUST IN. 2/3 + 6/12 = 2/3! FUUUCK. ˜danjel [ talk | contribs ] 12:19, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
Well I can, see because I'm sick :) no school for me! :P to make sure I don't lose the ability to write, I'm going to have to spend the whole day tommorow on here :) MWAHAHAHA!
good luck with the tests, and have fun at school! -- MSTR (Chat Me!) 12:31, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

3rr warning to me

Actually, I'm nowhere near passing 3RR on Newman College, Perth. Perhaps you're unaware, but, per WP:3RR, "A series of consecutive saved revert edits by one user with no intervening edits by another user counts as one revert." Thus, I've only reverted twice on that article. I won't revert again if you revert my changes or re-add the colors (i.e, I'm not going to claim some sort of "right" to 3 reverts). Note, though, that on the list of alumni, for any of those people that are alive, WP:NLIST is a part of WP:BLP, and thus is technically exempt from 3RR. If you feel strongly that the guild list belongs in the article, go ahead and re-add it then we can discuss it on the talk page. Qwyrxian (talk) 12:22, 26 November 2011 (UTC)

I'm not particularly bothered about removing uncited alumni. I think it's overzealous, but it's reasonably subject to challenge and I've done the same on other articles (including earlier today).
However, 2 reverts removing the substantive section on houses are still two reverts and close to that bright line of three. Two is somewhere near to three. Great that you're not going to revert again. Neither am I until a consensus forms.
So we'll see what people think. I reckon we're up to the D part of WP:BRD, anyway. Then we'll go from there. Feel free to chime in? ˜danjel [ talk | contribs ] 12:27, 26 November 2011 (UTC)

St James College

Hey Danjel! I've just finsihed a big edit on the St James College, Victoria article, and would it be possible if you could just go over it - correct mistakes (if I've made any) etc? I attend this college - I've kept 100% neutral - I just need to know if I made any mistakes :) Thank you, -- MSTR (Chat Me!) 09:32, 27 November 2011 (UTC)

Looks good. I tweaked some things in the list of list of Principals and DP's.
Needs more references for the history section... Is there any way you can fill in those blanks?
There could also be more sections. Curriculum and co-curricular section could be a good start? ˜danjel [ talk | contribs ] 10:07, 27 November 2011 (UTC)
I know - I need to add more references. The content that is there isn't OR, I've just used my collge diary, as well as information from the school's website. Thank you, -- MSTR (Chat Me!) 10:10, 27 November 2011 (UTC)
You could use the diary as a reference?
Oh, I just caught the list of college captains... That's a nono per WP:WPSCH/AG#WNTI. ˜danjel [ talk | contribs ] 10:21, 27 November 2011 (UTC)
What about: Any mention (including lists) of current pupils, administrative staff, school secretaries, non-executive teachers, etc., unless supported by reliable sources, and even then conforming to our biography of living persons policy? - The school diary is a reliable source ...? -- MSTR (Chat Me!) 10:33, 27 November 2011 (UTC)
Hmmm. That could probably be worded better. But there's still the issue of notability per WP:LISTPEOPLE. I think principals satisfies notability, but student captains probably not.
The issue has been discussed extensively at WT:WPSCH and the general consensus is not to include. I'm sure that there are other discussions also, but one I remember is WT:WPSCH/Archive_19#Concordia College, Adelaide. ˜danjel [ talk | contribs ] 10:49, 27 November 2011 (UTC)

Discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Said Shavershian

You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Said Shavershian. -- MSTR (Chat Me!) 03:22, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

I saw your comment ~ GNG - that's a policy I need to remember. I just don't understand - I really thought I had all my ducks lined up in a row. Keep or Delete - I don't feel that I mind too much anymore, I just needed someone with WP experience + some knowledge in the article, input. Even if you said delete, I'm sure there would be reason, that I'm currently not understanding from the deletes. I need to brush on my BLP policies, to understand what is/isn't notable. Thank you.
On a seperate note, I will be adding curriculam (sorry about spelling) + other sections to the St. James article ~ once I have finished, are you able to ook over? -- MSTR (Chat Me!) 09:34, 12 December 2011 (UTC)
Yeah I think you're fine per WP:GNG. We'll see how the AfD goes. Remember not to take it personally if it doesn't go your way.
Cool, yeah that'd be good. Let me know. ˜danjel [ talk | contribs ] 09:56, 12 December 2011 (UTC)
Danjel, I won't be having it complete tonight - but, sometime this week. What I have now, is the curriculum ~ I'll also have a summary for each year level with the subjects. (Note: none of this has been added to the article; Have it saved on a Word Document, and I'll paste from there to the article once complete.) Thank you, -- MSTR (Chat Me!) 11:20, 12 December 2011 (UTC)
Whenever. This week is filled with graduations and farewells and whole classes of sobbing 11-12 year olds who have no idea that they'll be seeing their bff's every day of the holidays then every day of the rest of high school and so on and so forth, so whenever you're done. :) ˜danjel [ talk | contribs ] 11:46, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

Your response to A1Z2 on AN/Edit warring

Haha, I like the response - unfortunately, I've taken the option to revert both your edit and A1Z2's. I appreciate the humor, but this guy is a solid outright vandal, and giving him the recognition he wants for his efforts isn't gonna help :) Sorry dude, feel free to have a pop at me or trout me at my talk page...  BarkingFish  14:20, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

Heh. Well... I don't think this one is out for recognition, as such. Just out to remove a piece of information (that [Talk:Yeshivah_College,_Australia|I don't necessarily agree should have too much weight], by the way, but whatever). Either way, fun while it lasted. Thanks for the rational prodding, no need for fish. Off to bed. ˜danjel [ talk | contribs ] 14:25, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

About Article 50th Redlands International cadet Australian Championship

Dear Danjel,

After writing my first wikipedia article it has already been put up for deleation. I think it would be fine to userfy the article but I am just a bit worried that, as their is so much harsh feedback, it will never go back on the main sight. As I am new to wikipedia I do not know that this would be the case. If you could give me some gaurenty that my article would could go back on the mainsite I would be happy for you to userfy it for me, seeing I don't know how.

.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Tris.obrien (talkcontribs) 23:56, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

To address each of your points: (1) Deletion happens, don't take it personally, take it as a prod towards improving; (2) The feedback was not harsh, it was fair; (3) I'm not going to give a guarantee that the article will go back to articlespace, it's not for me to say.
I'm sure that whomever you end up getting to review your work will point out the things that you need to change to make sure it does, but that's not my business. ˜danjel [ talk | contribs ] 02:10, 13 December 2011 (UTC)

Best wishes

Bet you wish you were here!
Warmest greetings from the Land of Smiles, and let's keep smiling together throughout the coming new year. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 00:16, 25 December 2011 (UTC)
Heh, thanks. And, yeah, I do wish I was there. :P Don't make me jealous. :) ˜danjel [ talk | contribs ] 07:54, 25 December 2011 (UTC)

Lame cyberbullying

I've noticed three attempts at cyberbullying at your user page, from users Doodleburger000 (talk · contribs), Danieljuddisadudd (talk · contribs), and Danieljuddeatscrud (talk · contribs). I've submitted a sockpuppet inquiry here not because it isn't blatantly obvious but because it seemed to be the right thing to do. Just wanted to let you know in case you're aware of any other accounts that should go on that list. Some people have too much free time. --NellieBly (talk) 02:05, 27 December 2011 (UTC)

PS: I wish I was in Kudpung's place, too. --NellieBly (talk) 02:05, 27 December 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for that. I've raised the last one, Danieljuddeatscrud (talk · contribs) at WP:UAA. I'm sure it's one or another of the vandals that have been active on a school article somewhere, but wouldn't know who (although very interested in the results). It is school holidays after all, so 14 year olds do have too much time on their hands. :)
I'm totally with you on that... We're having the wettest rainiest December in Sydney in ages. ˜danjel [ talk | contribs ] 02:11, 27 December 2011 (UTC)
Good idea for WP:UAA, for some reason I didn't think of that even though I nominate user names every day on there.
As for rainy Sydney, you could be in Winnipeg in the depths of winter: count your blessings! --NellieBly (talk) 02:16, 27 December 2011 (UTC)
True. Heh. Thanks for your work, though. Some day I'll buy you a beer from some place close by to Kudpung's place. ˜danjel [ talk | contribs ] 02:17, 27 December 2011 (UTC)

School AfDs

Hi Danjel. You and I may differ very slightly on notability of schools, but I certainly concur that this spate of mass deletions (nearly 200 in the last 2 weeks) is a ridiculous waste of experienced editors' time having to vote and close them. I don't know what can be done about it. Depending on who turns up to vote, some near identical AfDs get closed with totally opposite consensus. Some of the discussion at WT:WPSCH may help, but there are some contributors there who may possibly appear to be simply expressing personal deletionist/inclusionsist opinions without fully understanding how deletion works and how policies, guidelines, and convention by precedent are, or can be, interpreted and applied. It's always been a perennial debate with never a consensus being reached. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 02:37, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, I know that we differ. I think I'm a bit further along the inclusionist continuum. :) I'm probably more militant generally than you too. Heh.
I think the only way to make sure that the actual consensus view that nonnotable articles are redirected/merged into their respective localities/superschoolgroups is to vote on each one (which is a tremendous waste of time for all of us when people should just be doing the right thing and googling for the school). Even there, I'm concerned that the redirect/merge won't be fulfilled properly. We need to keep an eye on this.
But there really does seem to be some problems with how this process is being prosecuted. I'm really concerned that the parts of the deletion process that could potentially improve articles (and thereby the whole encyclopedia) aren't being followed. I've caught out quite a few where people aren't doing anything over than hitting the XFD button, which I think actually throws the whole list into suspicion. If people aren't even reading the opening paragraph, then... ˜danjel [ talk | contribs ] 03:21, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
I'm neither deletionist nor inclusionist (see my two comments today at WT:WPSCH, see :[2] and [3]). However, I'm very concerned about this. Two of the problems are endemic in all Wikipedia debates: 1. Many people propose and/or !vote who may not be fully aware of policies and guidelines. 2. Meta areas are often a magnet for inexperienced newcomers.Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 03:59, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
What the hell is that (re: Wizardman)?!? And why the hell isn't he responding!?! ˜danjel [ talk | contribs ] 04:13, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
Update: FYI. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 05:04, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

Craigslea State High School

Hi Danjel, I hope this is the correct way to contact you back. My only connection is as a past student. I do have some more information drafted up but I am not sure if it is appropriate. I also have a digital copy of the school logo. Do you know what the general policy is regarding adding these? Thanks, Steve. Stevenbeagley (talk) 07:23, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

This is the right way to get in touch with me, yeah. :) I just wantedt o reply quickly to you so that you know that I'm here, but I'm about to head out.
If you like, you can take a look at User:Danjel/Craigslea_State_High_School. That's a draft, in my userspace, I'll take a look at the changes that you suggest, suggest some things that I think might be good as well (after I get back from dinner), and then we'll move it over to mainspace.
In regards to your logo, yeah, there's a way to upload it. It is a bit fiddly, so I'll help you out with that when I get back as well. Cheers. ˜danjel [ talk | contribs ] 07:33, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for the editing, it looks much better. I think most of the other items on the page come directly from the school website. Should I put references to that site in the page?
As for more information, I don't have any for the moment.
I do have the logo as I said before, not sure I can upload it as this is the only page I have edited (I think I read I need to edit 10 entries before I can upload).
Thanks, Steve — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stevenbeagley (talkcontribs) 10:58, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

An interesting theory

has been posted here. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 12:29, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

Re: BITEY

Danjel!

If I think I know what that is, I'm not. Have a look at their talk page and see what's there. I also Rv-Gf their Unsourced edits + Welcomed them on their talk page, before they removed it. :P If I'm Biting, I must have no teeth, and it's a friendly bite, to someone who says they've been here a long time. -- MSTR (Chat Me!) 04:58, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

Fair enough. :) Wanted to cryptically draw your attention to it. :) ˜danjel [ talk | contribs ] 05:04, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
I nearly forgot you are a teacher. I'm more understanding now :P
At school teachers are all the time telling me to tone it down - that's me, with the tough-head-on personality, I guess :) BTW I hope you had an Awesome Christmas and safe new year! all the best for this year! -- MSTR (Chat Me!) 05:17, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
Yeah, that's Mister Danjel to you... Enjoy the rest of your holidays. I have to go in to work tomorrow. :P ˜danjel [ talk | contribs ] 05:20, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
That must suck. Well atleast you don't have another 3 years left at school :/ So I think I have it worse off than you Dan...Mr.Danjel. LOL. Well I hope you enjoyed your holidays, although short they must have been. -- MSTR (Chat Me!) 05:58, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

Me?

Sorry, until I saw my talk page, I thought you were asking Melbourne. Do you really think I am capable? I will certainly try, but I am shaking in my shoes...Petersontinam (talk) 05:29, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

Yep, you. Have a go. The worst you can do is make a mistake that someone else will probably fix. :P And, as I said, I'm sure you can write something better than I can (I don't know how enrolment catchments work in the UK). ˜danjel [ talk | contribs ] 05:38, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
Well, I am USA...but I would definitely research it for you if you don't have time. Research is one of my favorite things to do. I should probably try to figure out how to fill out my Userpage so that my State and Country are shown. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Petersontinam (talkcontribs) 05:48, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
Ah. Where'd I get the idea that you were from the UK? Then, in that case, you might be better at fixing:
Basicly it just needs to be better written and more accurate than what I've done. But the sentences that I've given are the basic framework. :) ˜danjel [ talk | contribs ] 05:54, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
I will give it a go. Have CT scan & Dr tomorrow, and will start right after. Will look for your OK when done. Toe officially placed in water.Petersontinam (talk) 06:19, 9 January 2012 (UTC)


(talk page stalker)Enrollment catchment is usually stated on each individual school's website in the 'Admissions' section. More information can be found on a school's Ofsted report. State schools generally follow the regulations of their LEA; grant maintained voluntary controlled schools, schools with the new academy status, and selective admission (entrance exam) grammar schools may have other policies. The UK school system is complex and some local government districts in the same county operate a thee tier school system of primary, middle, and high, to further complicate things, and often changes again according to who is in government. No regulations for independent schools of course. More at Education in England, Education in Scotland, Education in Wales, and Education in Northern Ireland. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 11:05, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

Never ceases to amaze me how enlightened other countries are. Australian schools go out of their way to keep their catchment an absolute secret. Even then, the catchment changes moment to moment and people can apply for out of area schools (if the nearest one takes in a kid who underachieves for some reason and thereby affects their achievement). ˜danjel [ talk | contribs ] 12:34, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
Danjel, I tinkered with West Bletchley-please have a look and see if you are ok with edits. Didn't get started til late, was a tough day. On to the US schools you listed now.Petersontinam (talk) 04:30, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, VanishedUser kfljdfjsg33k. You have new messages at Kudpung's talk page.
Message added 04:31, 10 January 2012 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

I believe I have made a mess

danjel, Please see my conversation with kudpung. I'm sorry, I don't even know how to leave a link to his page..it keeps saying page doesn't exist..don't know how to do a talkback going to another page either. Anyway, I think my edit for Girard will have to be reverted. I tried...sorry to mess things up. You will see in the conversation what I was asking and was very confused about. I think I should stick with very minor edits for now. Sorry I couldn't help out. Petersontinam (talk) 08:19, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

Check out WP:Wikilink - all pages here are linked the same way. For my talk page for example, you would type [[user talk:Kudpung]]. If you want to use the big blue Template:Talkback you would need to install WP:Twinkle. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 09:05, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
Ahh, Thank you! Petersontinam (talk) 17:06, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
Couldn't: didn't have the proper version of Windows for Twinkle to work. I will figure something out. Petersontinam (talk) 17:29, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

School Prods

Which school PRODs are you talking about? I don't recall PRODding any.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 14:56, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

[4], [5] and [6]. OK, not PROD'ing, but endorsing. :) I thought I should still let you know. ˜danjel [ talk | contribs ] 15:01, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

I hope you notified the original editor.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 15:20, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
Yep, roughly the same message. Cheers. ˜danjel [ talk | contribs ] 15:23, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
And the original PRODder.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 18:35, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

Please check for me?

Danjel, please check New Windsor, Girard, and Roosevelt and see if you think they are OK. Thanks Petersontinam (talk) 23:51, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

Great work! Well done. Do you here a ref for Prospect Elementary in Girard getting a Blue Ribbon? As it's usually enough to indicate notability, it might be worth WP:REDLINKing that school name (when you have a ref), so that someone at some point can create an article for it. ˜danjel [ talk | contribs ] 01:24, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
Danjel, I can put a link to the ed.gov page edgovprospect that officially lists it. The original place I saw it was a site called "local school directory.com" Prospect BR Thanks Petersontinam (talk) 01:59, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
 Done I added the gov site as it's more "reliable". Good job! ˜danjel [ talk | contribs ] 03:38, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for putting the reference in...I was offline for a while trying to figure out what I need to be able to use templates. Our Internet Explorer does not support Twinkle and life would be much easier with it. Question, are all block or box templates only usable with Twinkle? And thank you for saying "good job", that makes my day! Petersontinam (talk) 05:01, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
No, most templates you can just type in. For example, the talkback template is {{tb|Danjel}}. Of course, you're not me.. But yeah. The other important ones are warnings, listed at WP:WARN. ˜danjel [ talk | contribs ] 05:07, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
Thanks. Here is an unimportant one...but I am a big Packer fan and thought I would put it on my Userpage. When I typed in the template for being a Packer fan, as it showed in the instructions, it just said template etc. You have no idea how frustrated I get with not being able to do the little things. I had been copying "pipes" because I didn't know where it was on my keyboard. Until...I read today that my keyboard only shows the broken line. I have had no experience whatsoever in any "language", so I feel like an idiot most of the time trying to do incredibly simple things. Only discovered recently there was a button for links and references...I was trying to do it the hard way. Should have read every beginner thing I could find first, instead of jumping in. Petersontinam (talk) 05:27, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
Oh for goodness sakes, what is really that easy? Just did it in my sandbox and poof, no problem. thanks Petersontinam (talk) 05:35, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
You mean {{User:UBX/NFL-Packers}}? Just type it in exactly as it appears. The curly brackets are usually just the Shift-key version of the square brackets.
All of this just takes practice. You'll get used to it eventually. Until then, play around and ask if you need help. Most of the more experienced users you've met recently still ask others if they need help with things. :) Who knows how you'll end up. Heh. I usually prefer doing things (like ref's and links and so on) the "hard way". :) ˜danjel [ talk | contribs ] 05:40, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
(edit conflict)Heh. ;) ˜danjel [ talk | contribs ] 05:40, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
Yes, don't you hate edit conflicts? Yes, I swear I do know the normal keys, just didn't know the "pipe". And just so you don't think I'm nuts, look at "Category: Wikipedians Green Bay Packers Fans" (I would have put a link there to that page but...it didn't work!) See how it shows what to type inside the template brackets? What you wrote is different and probably works, but I wish I knew that stuff before I drive myself crazy trying to make the wrong words/letters work. :) OK, time to leave you alone now, you have helped more than your quota trying to inform a newbie Petersontinam (talk) 06:08, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
Yeah that looks like someone didn't check what links somewhere when they moved or deleted something. I've fixed it now for the sake of any other Packers fans around (prefer Rugby League myself). Don't feel like you're disturbing me; like I say to my students, if you're actually bothering me while I'm doing something more important, I'll ignore you until I'm done. So, otherwise, any time you need me, drop me a line. ˜danjel [ talk | contribs ] 06:14, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
That's noy a dash or underscore in there, right? Is that why it still doesn't work for me? Thanks. Petersontinam (talk) 06:22, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

Between NFL and Packers? Yeah it's a -. ˜danjel [ talk | contribs ] 06:27, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

What is "it" and how do I get one? Might I add, I have never worked so hard to make a box before... I know I should give up and go to sleep, but now it has become a mission. Petersontinam (talk) 06:43, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
Sometimes, the smallest things make me happy. It's still not right, but it's on my page. Sorry it took so many questions. Petersontinam (talk) 18:00, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

Hi Danjel from BGGS

Thanks for gettnig in touch with us and helping us to contribute to the Brisbane Girls Grammar page. Setting up a userspace draft sounds good and would be somethign we would enjoy participating in. You said in your email you could help me set this up, and I would appreciate that help. Thanks. Lilley1875 (talk) 03:20, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

 Done ...and continuing the discussion at Lilley1875. ˜danjel [ talk | contribs ] 03:35, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

Hi Danjel. If you have a moment, could you please check out the Australia section of Primary education for us to be sure that it is factual. Cheers. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 07:44, 20 January 2012 (UTC)

Yeah it's factually correct but could definitely be expanded. I'll do that tomorrow morning.
Sorry, apparently Alt-tab'ed away from this without hitting "Save Page". ˜danjel [ talk | contribs ] 12:29, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
 Done Take a look and fix anything that needs it? Cheers. ˜danjel [ talk | contribs ] 07:56, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
Looks very good. Thanks again Danjel. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 09:09, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

Barnstar

The Original Barnstar
This barnstar is awarded to everyone who - whatever their opinion - contributed to the discussion about Wikipedia and SOPA. Thank you for being a part of the discussion. Presented by the Wikimedia Foundation.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Philippe (WMF) (talkcontribs) 20:56, 21 January 2012 *(UTC)

A beer for you!

I'm taking a break for a while, Danjel. Dunno how long it will be. Keep the school wheels turning, mate! Cheers, Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 10:09, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

Urological vs. Ideological

The use of the term "urological" to describe my edits is highly inappropriate, as is in general you accuse me (and only me, not any of the other people who agree with me) of being out of line even though this is perfectly normal compared to hundreds of other AfDs. Also, you continue to ignore NRVE, which is probably one of the most relevant policies to this discussion. Purplebackpack89≈≈≈≈ 17:17, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

Ah. Please accept my apologies. I had meant to write "ideological", but, for some reason, my phone decided that "urological" sounded better. No offense to your Kidneys and/or bladder intended.
As for your behaviour, it is not normal relative to general practice on wikipedia. Badgering of !votes either way, particularly from an ideological standpoint, is WP:BATTLEGROUND mentality. ˜danjel [ talk | contribs ] 04:12, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

Newington College

Please keep an eye on Newington College and help avoid an edit war by an unidentified user. Thanks Castlemate (talk) 19:28, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

Will do. Thanks for the heads up. ˜danjel [ talk | contribs ] 22:07, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

Craigmore Christian School discipline

The information regarding Craigmore Christian School administering corporal punishment is incorrect. CCS has not done so for some time. The current behaviour management policy does not include such punishments. All references to corporal discipline as a part of CCS should be deleted. Dominic Hopps, Principal, Craigmore Christian School. Dominic HoppsDominic.hopps (talk) 06:59, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

Great to hear from you. If this is the case, then, yeah, I have no problem with the section being removed. Unfortunately I can't (and haven't been able to for some time) access the policies section of your website (doesn't seem to work on firefox?), but I'll take your word for it. :) ˜danjel [ talk | contribs ] 07:34, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

Late notice Sydney meetup - Wednesday in Newtown

Sorry for the late notice, but Ben Smith, who is a French Wikipedian m:User:benjism89, is visiting Australia with two friends and wants to meet up for dinner in Sydney on Wednesday [tomorrow!]. Feel free to join us :-)

He's staying near Sydney Uni, so: Meet at 7pm at the upstairs bar of the Marlborough Hotel (also known as the "Marley bar") which is about halfway between Sydney Uni and Newtown Train station: http://maps.google.com.au/?q=Marlborough+Hotel&cid=4363433616880529583
From there we'll have a drink and then chose a restaurant.

Please forward this to anyone who you think would be interested.
Sincerely, Wittylama 02:10, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

Sorry mate. I'd love to go, but I have some family issues that I need to take care of. Thanks for the invite. I'll pass it along to anyone I remember who's in Sydney. ˜danjel [ talk | contribs ] 03:53, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

School AfDs

I've just sent you an e-mail. Dahliarose (talk) 11:17, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

Dispute resolution

You had asked to be notified when additional comments came up. Since you asked, User:Fmph has commented about your attitude at Lyneham Primary School Purplebackpack89≈≈≈≈ 14:25, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

It's being moved to WQA now, so...