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Analysis vs evidence

Regarding this comment: in my view, things that happened are evidence; explanation of context is analysis. I realize, though, that many submitters of evidence don't make a clear distinction, and much analysis does get submitted as evidence. As you have already commented on the subject at hand in the workshop, do you think you need to expand more on this? It could be added to your existing comment. isaacl (talk) 21:17, 5 August 2023 (UTC)

Hey, Isaacl. Yeah, I know the comments are already at workshop, but IMO workshop is just a way for ArbCom to divert all the squabbling. Are they even required to read that stuff? Valereee (talk) 21:20, 5 August 2023 (UTC)
Depends what you mean by "required". As I recall an arbitrator saying somewhat recently, typically the drafting arbitrators read everything. Other arbitrators may read less and follow up less with the submitted diffs, based on time and interest. Personally I feel that sober, undramatic analysis will likely be read. I don't think the probability is altered by being submitted on the evidence page. It would probably help to be placed in a separate section than within a discussion thread. isaacl (talk) 22:14, 5 August 2023 (UTC)
Oh, no argument that arbs aren't well-intentionedly reading. It's just a lot. Valereee (talk) 23:13, 5 August 2023 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement (week 32, 2023)

A goalkeeper in action
Hello, Valereee. The article for improvement of the week is:

Goalkeeper

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Does this [1] need a rev/del? The last bit is of concern. Thanks, Knitsey (talk) 21:14, 7 August 2023 (UTC)

Think I got it, thanks! Valereee (talk) 21:18, 7 August 2023 (UTC)
Thank you Knitsey (talk) 21:21, 7 August 2023 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – August 2023

News and updates for administrators from the past month (July 2023).

Administrator changes

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June 2023

Information icon Hello, I'm Aboutnick. I was blocked by you in February of 2023 for "Refusal to communicate, blocking from article space to see if we can get them to start communicating either on talk pages or at ANI". I was unclear on how to communicate with other users via Wikipedia. Therefore, I was rightfully blocked. I now know how to communicate with other users. With that being said, would you please consider unblocking me. Respectfully, Aboutnick

New Pages Patrol newsletter June 2023

Hello Valereee,

New Page Review queue April to June 2023

Backlog

Redirect drive: In response to an unusually high redirect backlog, we held a redirect backlog drive in May. The drive completed with 23851 reviews done in total, bringing the redirect backlog to 0 (momentarily). Congratulations to Hey man im josh who led with a staggering 4316 points, followed by Meena and Greyzxq with 2868 and 2546 points respectively. See this page for more details. The redirect queue is steadily rising again and is steadily approaching 4,000. Please continue to help out, even if it's only for a few or even one review a day.

Redirect autopatrol: All administrators without autopatrol have now been added to the redirect autopatrol list. If you see any users who consistently create significant amounts of good quality redirects, consider requesting redirect autopatrol for them here.

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Reminders

Immediate action needed against user: Betty Logan

Hi there, I have pinged you into a discussion concerning the recent conduct of user Betty Logan. I would appreciate if you could take immediate action. Many thanks. Richie wright1980 (talk) 17:05, 13 August 2023 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement (week 33, 2023)

Hello, Valereee. The article for improvement of the week is:

Miss

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Because someone will inevitably take it seriously if I say it there

I do the first two things, and then find the most plausible-sounding sockmaster I can pin each user on. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she|they|xe) 19:09, 14 August 2023 (UTC)

That's because you're brilliant. And also hilarious. Also probably spend less time drunk and/or watching tripe on TV. Valereee (talk) 19:14, 14 August 2023 (UTC)

The Signpost: 15 August 2023

TLC RfA

Just out of curiosity, why did you delete my comment, and what part of what I wrote was a personal attack, and how was it "trolling?" I indicated that person appeared to me to be doing it intentionally to disrupt the RfA (i.e., not to stop the snowball pass, but to get the other editors all amped up just to watch the chaos). And I suggested to not encourage this kind of behavior by feeding into it. It's me... Sallicio! 15:13, 17 August 2023 (UTC)

Hey, @Sallicio. Calling someone a troll is a personal attack. And your comment in a fresh section entitled "Mission complete" seemed to be just as likely to stir things up as the oppose did, which is why to me it looked like trolling.
Honestly your new comment, I'm going to just leave there as you seem to be really intent on making a comment, but it feels like you're saying, "This person intended to troll us and succeeded! So let's not feed the trolls!" Which kind of looks like continued feeding, if that oppose was intentional trolling. Valereee (talk) 15:32, 17 August 2023 (UTC)
The thing is, we all know what's going on with the guy. An elementary knowledge of what RfAs are about, and a two-second search on this guy will tell you what his motives are. But even with that, everyone has a right to an opinion, short of actual personal attacks or patent nonsense. And when you said "This person intended to troll us and succeeded! So let's not feed the trolls," that's exactly what I was saying. And they did succeed, but the intent of what I wrote was two-fold: 1) to let the opposer know we know what's going on and to knock it off, and 2) (and more importantly) to encourage the peanut gallery to put their peanuts back in their pockets because they are just encouraging this kind of non-productive behavior. If someone is acting troll-ish, calling them out is not a personal attack. And discouraging others from feeding into the nonsense is not feeding the trolls. I put it in another subsection as a kind-of "alright, enough's enough... this is the end of the feeding frenzy." And TBH, others before me called the person a troll; they just used euphemisms. So I reworded my original comment so the opposer wouldn't be offended, and for clarification. I'll be more judicious next time. It's me... Sallicio! 16:11, 17 August 2023 (UTC)
But if they're actually trolling, you fed them by telling them they succeeded.
It's fine to say behavior is or seems like trolling. That's describing behavior. It's not fine to call a person a troll. That's a personal attack. You can say "your assertion is not true." Saying "you're a liar" is a personal attack. Valereee (talk) 16:18, 17 August 2023 (UTC)
The trolling was very apparent wayyy before I made a comment. lol. When I said he succeeded at trolling, that was aimed more at the peanut gallery to let them know they fed into the nonsense. Almost like "damn, look at all this back-and-forth.. we did feed right into that." But I do understand what you're trying to say, that's why I said I would be more judicious in the future. Anyway, back to work I go. Cheers! It's me... Sallicio! 16:27, 17 August 2023 (UTC)

Determining cohort year for administrators

Regarding ths comment: out of curiosity, once upon a time I had started collecting some stats on when administrators passed various edits per year thresholds. Partway through I also started looking at a proxy for discussion-related edits per year. I think some combination of passing thresholds in either of these categories might serve as a first approximation of when an editor has reached a baseline level of engagement with the community. However, I think given the sharp dropoff in editors receiving administrative privileges, this analysis is only going to alter the numbers slightly—since 2014, no more than 22 editors have become admins in any given year, compared with no fewer than 121 in 2009 and earlier. isaacl (talk) 17:14, 17 August 2023 (UTC)

Oh, definitely. There's no question that there are fewer RfAs in any given year. It's just that we're at a point where the sample size is so small, counting someone as class of X starts to look like it's important, when it may not be.
One of the other things WSC and I discussed was the fact that in, for example 2005, it would have been actually impossible to have a account creation>RfA gap of more than four years. In 2023, it could be 20 years. Valereee (talk) 17:23, 17 August 2023 (UTC)
Yes, over time the numbers for recent cohort years are subject to rising upward. While I still think the cohort numbers would be interesting, I didn't continue with collecting stats as I didn't think it would add much to the conversation regarding the need to have a healthy inflow of new admins, and would just distract people into arguing over the threshold criteria. isaacl (talk) 17:28, 17 August 2023 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement (week 34, 2023)

Hello, Valereee. The article for improvement of the week is:

Physiology

Please be bold and help improve it!


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Proposed decision posted for the SmallCat dispute case

The proposed decision in the SmallCat dispute has been posted. You are invited to review this decision and draw the arbitrators' attention to any relevant material or statements. Comments may be brought to the attention of the committee on the proposed decision talk page. For the Arbitration Committee, Dreamy Jazz talk to me | my contributions 10:53, 23 August 2023 (UTC)

Just wanted to check in and talk

Hey, I'm wondering how you've been doing. I have turned to the Teahouse for guidance and so far the edit requests are doing..... well just ok. I am glad some of my entries have made it so far. Thomasthedarkenguine (talk) 22:51, 22 August 2023 (UTC)

Answered at your talk. Valereee (talk) 14:54, 23 August 2023 (UTC)

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This week's article for improvement (week 35, 2023)

Industrial cooking of mashed potatoes in a steam-jacketed combi kettle
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Mashed potato

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Administrators' newsletter – September 2023

News and updates for administrators from the past month (August 2023).

Guideline and policy news

  • Following an RfC, TFAs will be automatically semi-protected the day before it is on the main page and through the day after.
  • A discussion at WP:VPP about revision deletion and oversight for dead names found that [s]ysops can choose to use revdel if, in their view, it's the right tool for this situation, and they need not default to oversight. But oversight could well be right where there's a particularly high risk to the person. Use your judgment.

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Arbitration

  • The SmallCat dispute case has closed. As part of the final decision, editors participating in XfD have been reminded to be careful about forming local consensus which may or may not reflect the broader community consensus. Regular closers of XfD forums were also encouraged to note when broader community discussion, or changes to policies and guidelines, would be helpful.

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This week's article for improvement (week 36, 2023)

Double-rigged shrimp trawler hauling in the nets
Hello, Valereee. The article for improvement of the week is:

Fishing industry

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DYK for Revival Vintage Bottle Shop

On 1 September 2023, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Revival Vintage Bottle Shop, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that when Kentuckians discover unwanted bourbon, there is something they can do with it? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Revival Vintage Bottle Shop. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Revival Vintage Bottle Shop), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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Hook update
Your hook reached 20,520 views (855.0 per hour), making it one of the most viewed hooks of September 2023 – nice work!

Bruxton (talk) 23:50, 2 September 2023 (UTC)

Wow, that's an amazing number for that slot! Valereee (talk) 12:47, 6 September 2023 (UTC)

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This week's article for improvement (week 37, 2023)

Hello, Valereee. The article for improvement of the week is:

Antebellum South

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This week's article for improvement (week 38, 2023)

Juice for public consumption
Hello, Valereee. The article for improvement of the week is:

Juice

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Help with personal attack

Any chance you could remove this personal attack: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dancing_with_the_Stars_(American_season_32)&diff=prev&oldid=1175829598 This is a persistent sockpuppet with a history of personal attacks toward me. Thank you. Bgsu98 (Talk) 19:21, 17 September 2023 (UTC)

I've removed. Is this a sockpuppet we can identify? Valereee (talk) 19:27, 17 September 2023 (UTC)
I believe it is User:ZestyLemonz. Bgsu98 (Talk) 19:45, 17 September 2023 (UTC)
Hm, that account last edited six years ago, so really no way to prove it other than with behavioral evidence. If that IP drops by again, LMK. Valereee (talk) 19:55, 17 September 2023 (UTC)
Yes, but that is the root account and has had multiple sockpuppet accounts since, including very recently. Check out their SPI archive. Bgsu98 (Talk) 20:05, 17 September 2023 (UTC)
Thank you, by the way! Bgsu98 (Talk) 20:05, 17 September 2023 (UTC)
Oh, I see you've already reported it to SPI, good job. Sorry you're having this person following you around. Valereee (talk) 20:08, 17 September 2023 (UTC)
They're back. Special:Contributions/2A00:23EE:1650:2FA5:8116:1007:9023:CE7A Bgsu98 (Talk) 00:41, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

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Women in Green GA Editathon October 2023 - Around the World in 31 Days

Hello Valereee:

WikiProject Women in Green is holding a month-long Good Article Edit-a-thon event in October 2023!

Running from October 1 to 31, 2023, WikiProject Women in Green (WiG) is hosting a Good Article (GA) edit-a-thon event with the theme Around the World in 31 Days! All experience levels welcome. Never worked on a GA project before? We'll teach you how to get started. Or maybe you're an old hand at GAs – we'd love to have you involved! Participants are invited to work on nominating and/or reviewing GA submissions related to women and women's works (e.g., books, films) during the event period. We hope to collectively cover article subjects from at least 31 countries (or broader international articles) by month's end. GA resources and one-on-one support will be provided by experienced GA editors, and participants will have the opportunity to earn a special WiG barnstar for their efforts.

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WikiCup 2023 September newsletter

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This week's article for improvement (week 39, 2023)

vs graph for a moving particle under a non-uniform acceleration .
Hello, Valereee. The article for improvement of the week is:

Motion

Please be bold and help improve it!


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I'm not sure if this matters, apologies if it's not a problem. Jjjjfghh (talk · contribs) looks to be new user Jjjjfghh2 (talk · contribs). User page states new account rules. I'm not too familiar with alt accounts. Is it correct that as long as it is declared and both accounts don't edit the same article, then it is OK? Thanks, Knitsey (talk) 14:04, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

Hey, @Knitsey! Yeah, it's a bit of an overreaction on their part to make a WP:fresh start after 135 edits and three complaints on their talk, but as long as they actually abandon the old account -- and as you say, don't edit the same articles or discussions -- it's fine. Valereee (talk) 14:29, 28 September 2023 (UTC)
I thought it was OK with conditions. I appreciate you checking. Knitsey (talk) 14:30, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

Women in Red October 2023

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--Lajmmoore (talk) 10:54, 29 September 2023 (UTC) via MassMessaging

Query

Hello, Valereee,

I see you are active right now on the project so I have a request. Could you review and, hopefully, delete Coca Vango? I handle a lot of PROD'd articles but I tagged this one so it is not appropriate for me to delete it and none of the other admins who regularly patrol Proposed Deletions seems to be active lately. Thanks for looking over this one.

Have a great weekend! Liz Read! Talk! 17:26, 30 September 2023 (UTC)

 Done, and you have a great weekend too! I shouldn't be editing, I should be out enjoying the beautiful weather we're having, but I got caught up in one of my typical editing frenzies at Jeanne Voltz. :D Valereee (talk) 17:31, 30 September 2023 (UTC)

Thanks

...for taking care of Buckrune. I was getting lost in the weeds of trying to figure out if those redirects really qualified for CSD, and if there were any LTAs that it matched up with--I appreciate you cutting the Gordian knot. :) (though in my defense, the one thing I didn't see was what they wrote on their own talk page, which probably would've made the decisions easier...) Writ Keeper  15:41, 1 October 2023 (UTC)

I was just like...no one older than fifteen would search on those, and then only to see if they'd actually redirect to something so they can sit and giggle with their friends. And then the silliness at Teahouse, and everything else I spotchecked looked pretty silly :) Valereee (talk) 15:44, 1 October 2023 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement (week 40, 2023)

Chinese blue and white porcelain jar, Ming dynasty, 15th century
Hello, Valereee. The article for improvement of the week is:

The arts

Please be bold and help improve it!


Previous selections: Motion • Juice


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