User talk:Tournesol/Archive 2010

Unreferenced BLPs

Hello Tournesol! Thank you for your contributions. I am a bot alerting you that 2 of the articles that you created are tagged as Unreferenced Biographies of Living Persons. The biographies of living persons policy requires that all personal or potentially controversial information be sourced. In addition, to ensure verifiability, all biographies should be based on reliable sources. if you were to bring these articles up to standards, it would greatly help us with the current 253 article backlog. Once the articles are adequately referenced, please remove the {{unreferencedBLP}} tag. Here is the list:

1. Georg Riedel - Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL
2. Nikolay Brusentsov - Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL

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Your contributed article, Small Axe

Hello, I notice that you recently created a new page, Small Axe. First, thank you for your contribution; Wikipedia relies solely on the efforts of volunteers such as yourself. Unfortunately, the page you created covers a topic on which we already have a page - Burnin' (The Wailers album). Because of the duplication, your article has been tagged for speedy deletion. Please note that this is not a comment on you personally and we hope you will to continue helping improve Wikipedia. If the topic of the article you created is one that interests you, then perhaps you would like to help out at Burnin' (The Wailers album) - you might like to discuss new information at the article's talk page.

If you think that the article you created should remain separate, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the page does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that they userfy the page or have a copy emailed to you. Additionally if you would like to have someone review articles you create before they go live so they are not nominated for deletion shortly after you post them, allow me to suggest the article creation process and using our search feature to find related information we already have in the encyclopedia. Try not to be discouraged. Wikipedia looks forward to your future contributions. Thanks, TTGL | Talk to me! 19:41, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for notifying me, I clicked "Save page" a bit early when I only wanted to preview the page. I think the song has been covered by enough other artists to be notable, but let's keep that to the article talk page. - Tournesol (talk) 20:01, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

Mr. Tournesol!

You may recognise my name, but don't block me. You recently blocked the Swedish account of Fågelfors-Glen, which was for the better, really that account should be deleted. You see, the Fågelfors-Glen of swedish Wikipedia is a totally free login name, everybody can use it. Due to this the user Fågelfors-Glen in swedish is a total con. Please contact me as soon aspossible so we can discuss the matter // --Fågelfors-Glen (talk) 11:04, 17 February 2010 (UTC) P.S Leave a message here User talk: Fågelfors-Glen

I don't have the possibility to delete accounts at SVWP, but I suppose the bureaucrats there could, or at least re-name the account to some random string. But what do you mean by the Fågelfors-Glen of swedish Wikipedia is a totally free login name, everybody can use it? Doesn't the account have a password? Or did you let a computer remember the password so that anybody using that computer can access the account? - Tournesol (talk) 11:09, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

This is the case: the school uses something called "clients". These then connect to the school server, where it can be used as a computer. They thereby save the password for everybody, since we're all at the same IP. / / Fågelfors-Glen (talk) 12:56, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

Discussion pages and archiving on enwp

Hi Tournesol

Since you've asked Björn Bergman a few times to not delete old message but archiving them instead I would just like to point out that this is wikipedia in English not Swedish and the rules about these things are different. Here a user can delete the contents (after a reasonable ammount of time) instead of moving them into an archive if he/she so chooses. GameOn (talk) 07:11, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, if Björn removes any more messages (after a reasonable amount of time) I will bear this in mind. - Tournesol (talk) 08:54, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

SJ AB

Hello, Tournesol! You did a little mistake, when I wrote an information about that SJ AB's headquarters are in Stockholm, you undid my edits. The headquarters are in Stockholm, you can look here. BjörnBergman 12:53, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing this out, I didn't realize the "location" argument was displayed as "Headquarter location" in the template. - Tournesol (talk) 11:33, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

Olof Palme

Hi, Tournesol! You did a mistake. You undid my edits in Olof Palme when I changed his death date. He died on 28 February, not on 1 March, look here. BjörnBergman 18:54, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, but it appears you are wrong. He was pronounced dead six minutes past midnight, i.e. on March 1, you can read all about it in the SVWP article, although Wikipedia isn't a very good source in Wikipedia articles. - Tournesol (talk) 17:09, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

Juan SaltSinker

Only blocked on en because of my block. I don't know if it is possible to do a system wide block. meta would be the place for this I suspect. [1] can list the url for a system wide spam stop. The COIBOT has already reported at that place. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 22:12, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

I have found it at meta:Steward requests/Global#Requests for global (un)lock and (un)hiding. http://toolserver.org/~luxo/contributions/contributions.php?user=Juan+SaltSinker&lang= gives all contributions. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 22:26, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, evidetly it wasn't as bad as I feared when I had checked the contributions from this account in four languages (Swedish, English, French and Spanish) and found spam in every single one of them. I thought he had been spamming if not all then at least tens of language versions of Wikipedia. - Tournesol (talk) 05:44, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

Unblock me now

I am being really, really serious now. Please unblock me now (Heymid) on the Swedish Wikipedia! My block has even spread over on Oskar Trollunge (alias "Alasdair") blog at http://hogerwiki.blogspot.com/. You can read his blog post there on Saturday, May 29 2010, the day I got blocked from Swedish Wikipedia. You can read it shortly here. That blog post proves that he really wanted me to become blocked. He even states that I am a sockpuppet ("marionett" on Swedish) to Mannen av börd, Loka Lök and Perolinka!

Sockpuppet? That is not true. You can easily confirm this, by requesting an IP-koll/look. I don't even have the same IP adress (and maybe not even the same IP range) as those accounts and adresses. Do you know Alasdair's real username on the Swedish Wikipedia? Could you contact him and say that he should not be blogging like that about me, although I don't know if anyone actually visits the blog, since if public users and people have either discovered the blog site or not yet.

A whole bunch of people have also called me a troll! You can check out WP:KAW on Swedish Wikipedia for proof. And, as I said earlier, none of these theories/rumours are true. Heymid (talk) 16:35, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

Also, I have always been a constructive user on Swedish Wikipedia. Everyone thinks and believes that I am a sock puppet and a troll, but that is not true. It is false. So please unblock me and give me a final chance, because everyone has misunderstood me, totally!

Also, check out my contributions at English Wikipedia. They are all (most of them, at least) constructive.

And finally, I think that the blogger (Oskar Trollunge, also called "Alasdair") should also be permanently blocked from editing on Swedish Wikipedia, if he is acting like that against a constructive user and person. Such kind of behaviors outside Wikipedia is definitely against the rules for Wikipedia, outside Wikipedia. Heymid (talk) 16:39, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

Forget it. Goodbye. - Tournesol (talk) 19:42, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

Private information + other things

1. See User talk:HJ Mitchell#Request at SVWP. You mentioned "Asperger's syndrome". You are absolutely correct. I am actually suffering from that. It is not as easy to live with that (it's hard to explain in English). I also believe that BB has a similiar diagnose, maybe like AS (that I have) or maybe ADHD (remember, I am just speculating at the moment). Know, what I am wondering, is: Where have I mentioned "Asperger's syndrome", or have you managed to figure it out or is it just speculation?

2. See my latest reply at User_talk:HJ Mitchell#Request at SVWP.

3. I chose to contact HJ Mitchell, because I searched around the "administrators" group and found him to be a reliable and active administrator, and has blocked users and IP-adresses many times (see his log for blocking). That's why I chose him.

4. Could you launch a new separate investigation on SV:WP:KAW and come to a definite decision, regarding my block, if it either will be time limited (bad at English due to young age) or still permanent? Also, it maybe would be better if you keep the whole investigation at a separate page of it's own, like "SV:WP:Kommentarer av administreringen av Wikipedia/Heymid"?

5. Finally, I will come with more information on Swedish Wikipedia regarding my block later this week. Heymid (talk) 20:06, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

Forget it. Goodbye. - Tournesol (talk) 06:05, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

Are you a troll? Heymid (talk) 10:11, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

ACN & Direct Selling News

I respectfully disagree with your statement regarding your recent edits to the ACN article that "this "Direct Selling News" magazine doesn't appear to be very noteworthy."

Direct Selling News is the foremost authority on the direct sales/network marketing industry. Companies profiled or featured in the publication regularly point to it as a mark of credibility, and the magazine is held in incredibly high esteem. Recently featured companies include companies such as Nu Skin, Primerica, and Herbalife. Inclusion in the Global 100 is the direct sales-specific equivalent of the Inc. 500. Just because its circulation may be relatively small compared to a Wired or Inc. type of publication, or you may personally be unfamiliar with the the publication, does not negate its validity within the direct selling community.

I therefore strongly object to your deletion and request it immediately be reinstated. Virgil06 (talk) 21:14, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

I, too, am wondering just what you think the problem with Direct Selling News is, why you think it isn't noteworthy enough to include in the article. But cCan we continue this discussion now in the ACN Inc discussion pages? Mike (talk) 03:16, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

Certainly, but to put it short, the Virgil06 account (which, since its creation in 2007 had made two edits by Thursday morning) had created the article about Direct Selling News less than half an hour ago and no other articles were, at least at that time, linking to DSN, which made me judge the section a fairly obvious case of WP:UNDUE. But I could of course be wrong. - Tournesol (talk) 19:41, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

Heymid 2010

Your job?

1. Is it your job to watch my edits here on English Wikipedia?
2. How can you see my edits on English Wikipedia, just when I request a tool? /HeyMid (contributions) 18:20, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

I've wasted enough time on you at Swedish Wikipedia. - Tournesol (talk) 19:35, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, so now it is time for you to waste time on me at English Wikipedia instead. Great idea! /HeyMid (contributions) 20:06, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

No, the waste of time was assuming good faith at SVWP. Preventing you from getting access to tools that would allow you to waste other people's time more efficiently is damage prevention. - Tournesol (talk) 07:43, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

Just because you are underestimating me, doesn't mean you should prevent me from getting access to tools. My life on Swedish Wikipedia has affected English Wikipedia, which I find it unacceptible. And I can thank you for that. You are rather a Troll than a Wikipedian. /HeyMid (contributions) 08:45, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

But it's better if I waste your time, rather than if you waste my time. /HeyMid (contributions) 08:52, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

I have been improving myself on English Wikipedia, so please read the above. /HeyMid (contributions) 08:58, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

Notice

Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there currently is a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. decltype (talk) 10:02, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for notifying me, I believe you already wrap things up pretty well. - Tournesol (talk) 11:33, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

You can't ask the administrators to consider blocking me on EnWp (English Wikipedia), just because I removed unnecessary questions started by myself. Please do like me: Ignore attacking me and instead continue to focus on your job on SvWp (Swedish Wikipedia) and EnWp. Thanks.

BTW: I like you. /HeyMid (contributions) 16:00, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

Sorry

I just wanted to say sorry for my attacking on you. I didn't realize it wasn't a good idea to request unblock on SvWp at EnWp. However, I have now realized I am stuck in the situation I am currently in. Thanks. /HeyMid (contributions) 17:04, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

Heymid case

Did you know Heymid filed a case on Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Edit_warring_in_user_talk_page about the conflict about having his information on your talk page.

Just as a suggestion to diffuse the issue, why don't you archive the threads between you an Heymid. The stuff will be there but not in plain sight. see Help:Archiving a talk page. Arnoutf (talk) 16:18, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

No, I didn't know that, but thanks for letting me know. Aren't you supposed to notify any user that you discuss in that page? Oh well, perhaps Heymid doesn't know how to read text in bold type in bright info boxes, or perhaps he thought that must notify wasn't to be interpreted literally.

Thanks for your suggestion, but I think trying to "defuse" the situation would be fruitless, since Heymid is a troll. As you may have already read elsewhere, he was blocked a few months ago at SVWP, and now he's pretending to be 13 years old in order to get sympathy, squeezing as much as he can out of WP:AGF and benefit-of-doubt while wasting as much editor and admin time as possible by asking people to fix things for him, by nominating himself for reviewer and rollback permissions (and trying to remove criticism related to these nominations), by acting as if he were an ENWP admin, by badgering SVWP admins as ENWP etc etc ad nauseam. - Tournesol (talk) 16:56, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

Tournesol, I have the simplest answer in the world: I am currently being in meta discussions, and doing so is not appreciated by anyone at all. If I just move on to only editing articles in the mainspace, there will be no problems. /HeyMid (contributions) 17:47, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

General message

Hi, Tournesol! This is just a general message you don't have to reply to, but it would be greatly appreciated if you do.

I know what I have done at SVWP, and I have done many things wrong there. And yes, I have been trolling a few times. The problem was I didn't even think about a permanent block. I simply thought that if you were contributing constructively (no vandalism), you are welcome. But, I should've read sv:Wikipedia:Det är ingen rättighet att redigera på Wikipedia (English: Editing at Wikipedia is not a permission). If I had thought about my behavior at SVWP, I would probably have "skärpt mig" (pulled myself together?) and really shown who I really am.

I am a normal user, but I just want you to know I am completely aware of my behavior at SVWP, which caused my permanent block. But please, please leave me alone from ENWP now. I know I am welcomed back to SVWP in a little less than three years. I have been behaving better here during the last month or so, and I have completely stopped engaging myself in WP:SPI and reporting you at WP:AN/WP:ANI, but please focus on more constructive things than just mentoring and preventing me from getting tools at ENWP. I currently do not feel I need a mentorship from you. (Sure, if I am trolling somewhere at ENWP, feel free to revert it.)

Best regards, /HeyMid (contributions) 12:31, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

Please see my answers in the section Your job? above. - Tournesol (talk) 12:48, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

Trust is one thing, how people change is a different thing. What I mean is that we have to move on with our lives. I have completely stopped trolling now, and I don't understand why I would abuse the tools. Like I said above, I do not believe you are acting correctly when hunting me on ENWP, then I would never get those tools, even 3 years later. Just because you are the Swedish administrator who blocked me at SVWP, doesn't mean you have the rights to stalk me at ENWP, in order to prevent me from getting good things. I have my own, good adventure at ENWP, but it is annoying when seeing you destroy my adventure here at ENWP. Thank you for your time. /HeyMid (contributions) 13:00, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

Seeing this less than 24 hours after you begged to be unblocked and promised immediately move on to only edit articles pretty much proves my point. Thank you. - Tournesol (talk) 17:52, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

Blocked

Tournesol, I'm afraid I've blocked you for 48 hours because you won't leave Heymid alone. Heymid was blocked for harassing you in August and you're now doing almost exactly the same to him as he did to you. Please leave him alone. If he's in the wrong, he doesn't need you popping up at every venue to tell him so and, if he is, I will deal with it as I have in the past. Please take this time to disengage with Heymid as he has tried to do with you. You may of course appeal this block if you feel it's unjust by adding the template {{unblock|reason for unblocking}} below this message. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 17:06, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

Wow.

In the last month (and excepting my message this afternoon), I have on one (1) occasion interacted with Heymid. I told him that instead of just removing information that has a clear, explicit source, it would be better to explain why in the talk page for the concerned article, then wait for others so get a chance to respond.

During October, Heymid was blocked a third or fourth time for, well, doing what he always has and probably always will since he gets away with it. He appealed this block, the appeal was denied, then he appealed again, promising pretty much the same stuff he had promised when trying to have previous blocks lifted. I wrote nothing when he was blocked, nothing when he first appealed, nothing when the first appeal was denied, nothing when he appealed again and nothing when he was unblocked. Yet you feel that I'm popping up at every venue, and when I did write a single message at somebody else's talk page, you immediately blocked me, without any warning, without any message in my talk page.

I'm not sure if this is funny or sad or both. What I do know, however, is that I have absolutely no intent to appeal the block, so you might just as well remove my talk page access as well. - Tournesol (talk) 19:59, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

Tournesol, I think you're missing something here. Yes, it is true that you had been interacting with me only one time the last month before being blocked now. Also, I do realize that you have avoided commenting the other times (except now at TFOWR's talk page). However – do you have to engage in me at all? Do you have an obsession to comment on me? I did, however, accept your comment at my talk page here. However, most of your comments at me seem to focus on disparaging me. And the October 2010 cases are not the only ones – see 1, 2 and 3. There also some more which I don't want to document here.

OK, I am indefinitely/long-term blocked at the Swedish Wikipedia, but that doesn't mean you are allowed to harass me here. Also, WP:NPA says "Comment on content, not on the contributor." Finally, this time I was really close to reporting you to ANI or an administrator. I have already reported you several times, but with no success, and I never notified you or warned you, because my impression is that we simply don't mix well together.

Best regards, HeyMid (contributions) 20:44, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

HJ, do you know approximately how many non-article namespace edits Heymid has made since the last time he was unblocked a few months ago? Do you know what percentage of the total account edits these non-article edits constitute? Do you know how many times (since the unblock) Heymid has been told not to poke his nose into discussions that don't concern him? You don't have to answer these questions, but please spend a few seconds considering them. Now to my actual question: the next time Heymid gets blocked and tries to get unblocked by promising to stick to article editing only, will you believe these promises and unblock the account?

Oh, and if you feel I'm violating some important principle by asking these questions, please feel free to block me like you did the last time. If you do, please make sure it's a very long block, since I obviously don't understand why your last block was justified. - Tournesol (talk) 09:31, 24 January 2011 (UTC)