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WikiCup 2011 March newsletter

We are half way through round two of the WikiCup, which will end on 28 April. Of the 64 current contestants, 32 will make it through to the next round; the two highest in each pool, and the 16 next highest scorers. At the time of writing, our current overall leader is Zanzibar Hurricanehink (submissions) with 231 points, who leads Pool H. Poland Piotrus (submissions) (Pool G) also has over 200 points, while 9 others (three of whom are in Pool D) have over 100 points. Remember that certain content (specifically, articles/portals included in at least 20 Wikipedias as of 31 December 2010 or articles which are considered "vital") is worth double points if promoted to good or featured status, or if it appears on the main page in the Did You Know column. There were some articles last round which were eligible for double points, but which were not claimed for. For more details, see Wikipedia:WikiCup/Scoring.

A running total of claims can be seen here. However, numerous competitors are yet to score at all- please remember to submit content soon after it is promoted, so that the judges are able to review entries. The number of points that will be needed to reach round three is not clear- everyone needs to get their entries in now to guarantee their places! If you are concerned that your nomination will not receive the necessary reviews, and you hope to get it promoted before the end of the round, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews. However, please remember to continue to offer reviews at GAC, FAC and all the other pages that require them to prevent any backlogs which could otherwise be caused by the Cup. As ever, questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup and the judges are reachable on their talk pages, or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start receiving or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn and The ed17 01:11, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

WP:FS

Have you poked through the recommended sources yet? Alternatively, consider making a field recording. I got a field recording of my cat to Featured sound with little more than her cooperation and a good-quality desktop microphone. Adam Cuerden (talk) 14:39, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

I can't help you with Video, but for audio, the easiest way is to use Audacity, a free sound editing program, load up the file, then choose "Export as Ogg Vorbis" in the File menu. Adam Cuerden (talk) 14:47, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

FLC for Huskies of Honor

Hi Tony, hope you are doing well. I currently have a featured list candidacy open for Huskies of Honor, essentially a Hall of Fame for the best men's and women's basketball players in Connecticut Huskies history. I thought you might be interested in taking a look at it; if so, please leave any comments you have here. If not, no worries. –Grondemar 23:02, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

Number of four awards

I ran a small script on Wikipedia:Four Award/Records to count how often File:Four Award.svg appears, and I came up with 184. Discounting the first instance at the top, that should leave 183, not 182. Are you sure there's not something missing somewhere? --Gyrobo (talk) 16:48, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

Never mind, I just realized I forgot to subtract one from the length. --Gyrobo (talk) 16:51, 3 April 2011 (UTC)
Actually, ignore my retraction. Here's the script:
 var k = 0;
 for (var i = 0; i < (document.images).length; i++) {
   if (document.images[i].src == "http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/20/Four_Award.svg/20px-Four_Award.svg.png") {
     k++;
   }
 }
 k--; // Take initial header image into account.
 alert("Number of FOUR awards: " + k);
It shouldn't matter if it's length or length - 1, it only counts instances of that image. --Gyrobo (talk) 17:01, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

Recently listed good articles/Port of Miami Tunnel

I see that you have a lot of good, featured and other articles linked on your page, including the Port of Miami Tunnel, which I basically "took over" recently and have radically changed it over the past few weeks, even today. Over the past few months and a ton in the last week I've been improving the POM Tunnel article and I nominated it as a good article, and it easily passed with basic little changes, and now I don't see how it falls that short of meeting FAC, except for it's length. But I mean, it's not even one year out of four into construction and look how comprehensive of an article I was able to pull together on it. Even since it passing the GAN I've added a substantial amount to it. Daniel Christensen (talk) 21:44, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

Oh.... I thought you'd contributed to it in the past, but no, I just realized your page linked to it and made an assumption. So do your user and talk pages automatically display recent GA's? Daniel Christensen (talk) 21:47, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

DYK for 2010–11 Michigan Wolverines men's ice hockey team

Thanks for me and the wiki Victuallers (talk) 00:03, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Chris Hill (basketball)

The DYK project (nominate) 08:04, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

DYK for The Fab Five

Hi, I put some new alt suggestions on the DYK talk page in response to your question. Best, Yoninah (talk) 14:12, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Tony, the hook was moved to Prep 4 and revised by another editor. You can comment on the new hook here. Yoninah (talk) 23:38, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

File

The Fireside chat isn't going to clean up very much - that sort of static tends not to clean that well. The Peace Corps one I kind of did earlier today. Should've saved that. Still, it's not really worth duplicating work.

How about Truman's farewell? http://millercenter.org/scripps/archive/speeches/detail/3355 - It's not going to clean up perfectly, but I think it'll clean up fairly well.

HAve a listen, and then we'll talk. =) Adam Cuerden (talk) 18:18, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

I mean I should have saved it for you - it's already in the nom. =/ Adam Cuerden (talk) 19:07, 4 April 2011 (UTC)


Click at the point you wwant to start selecting, hold the mouse button down, and drag to the end of the selection before releasing. Adam Cuerden (talk) 23:01, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

You're trying a bit too hard to remove static at the beginning, leading to ruining the rest of the speech. Try blending in a bit more of the original. Adam Cuerden (talk) 08:08, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Wikivoices/Episode_48 - Just use part 2 of this; there's no particularly noticeable clicking.

Cleaning up a sound file should not make it harder to listen to - the current version distorts the voice so much that it'svery hard to make out the words. Harder than in the original. Adam Cuerden (talk) 08:47, 5 April 2011 (UTC) Adam Cuerden (talk) 08:10, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

When you nominate a file don't forget to add {{FSC|Name of subpage (without Wikipedia:Featured sound candidates/}} It's great to see you eager to participate, consider commenting on other nominations as well :) Regards, —Ancient Apparition • Champagne? • 9:19pm • 11:19, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

The Signpost: 4 April 2011

DYK for The Fab Five (film)

The DYK project (nominate) 08:03, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

DYK for List of Football Academic All-America Team Members of the Year

The DYK project (nominate) 08:03, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

DYK for List of Women's Basketball Academic All-America Team Members of the Year

The DYK project (nominate) 08:03, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

DYK for List of Men's Basketball Academic All-America Team Members of the Year

The DYK project (nominate) 08:04, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

talkback

Hello, TonyTheTiger. You have new messages at Tvoz's talk page.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Tvoz/talk 06:35, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

And again.Tvoz/talk 19:14, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

Forgot to say, one more round on my talk. Cheers. Tvoz/talk 18:22, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

FS!

Fireside Chat 1 On the Banking Crisis (March 12, 1933) Franklin Delano Roosevelt
Your Featured sound candidate has been promoted
Your nomination for featured sound status, File:Fireside Chat 1 On the Banking Crisis (March 12, 1933) Franklin Delano Roosevelt.ogg, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate another sound, please do so at Wikipedia:Featured sound candidates. Sven Manguard Wha? 07:09, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

P.S. Sorry it took me so long to get this to you. I had an emergency halfway through the promotion.

You've got mail

Hello, TonyTheTiger. Please check your email; you've got mail!
It may take a few minutes from the time the email is sent for it to show up in your inbox. You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{You've got mail}} or {{ygm}} template.

—James (Talk) • 3:28pm • 05:28, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

Invitation to join Wikimedia US/WALRUS mailing list

Hi Tony! I'd like to invite you to join wikimediaus-l, where we already discussing The Great American Wiknic :)--Pharos (talk) 00:38, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

FS

State of the Union (Four Freedoms) (January 6, 1941) Franklin Delano Roosevelt
Your Featured sound candidate has been promoted
Your nomination for featured sound status, File:FDR's 1941 State of the Union (Four Freedoms speech) Edit 1.ogg, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate another sound, please do so at Wikipedia:Featured sound candidates. Guerillero | My Talk | Review Me 16:14, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Since you started the discussion I consider you a co-nominator--Guerillero | My Talk | Review Me 16:14, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Infoboxes

Hi. I encountered a surprising opposition yesterday to the St. Petersburg pin map I made and the infobox I added to Winter Palace showing city location. The reverter seems to have a load of people who are against infoboxes and supported him. I've opened a discussion, I was under the impression that infoboxes are generally preferred on here given that they are used in most articles. I think there should be a general consensus made either way which stops people re,oving or adding infoboxes based on personal preferences but based on those which adequately reflect the mainstream view. Are infoboxes generally accepted on wikipedia?, I need some feedback at the pump on this as obviously if I had believed there wasn't I a] would not have added an infobox b] I wouldn't have created a map and c] I wouldn't have asked the reverter not to remove the infobox.♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:22, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

Thankyou for taking to time to comment. It just struck me as odd as I've honestly never seen a group express their distaste for infoboxes except the opera project with composers.Generally if you add infoboxes to articles you don't anticipate it being reverted!! City maps are my thing, so I thought a city locator in the article would be useful like I did with Chicago.♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:00, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

The Signpost: 11 April 2011

Winter Palace

Worked heavily on improving this today and finding new sources, copy editing, making concise, filling in refs to nominate for GA. See this. My hours of work completely reverted. Is this acceptable? I'm going to take some time away from here right now but can you seriously look into this revert and bring proper justice to this situation. I as you know am an experienced GA contributor but this sort of hostitlity has sickened me to the core.♦ Dr. Blofeld 18:34, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

I agree with Blofeld on this - there was no reason for a wholesale revert without any attempt at mollifying the situation. I have reverted the revert - something I don't do lightly - because I think it was unwarranted. I'm going to suggest that the issue be taken up on the article talkpage, unless you think otherwise. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 19:06, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
Sure. It may have to wait until tonight. (I did a bit of a fly-by on the Winter Palace article, admittedly - I didn't read everything, just enough to satisfy myself that my revert could be justified.)
I've seen you around some - I lurk over at WP:FPC from time to time, and I've seen you come up in the newpage patrol. I've become mostly a gnome, myself, with periods of active article creation. But I tend to fly under the radar a lot - I don't go over to WP:FA or WP:GA hardly at all (been meaning to change that, though - I simply don't have the time to work something up to a decent standard any more), and tend to live in article space.
And I don't know anything about Chicago beyond what I read in books, I'm afraid, so I'm of scant help on that subject. :-) --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 19:38, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

OK nobody has a right to remove GA noms like this, That is NOT debatable. This guy needs sorting out.♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:32, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

Actually, it is debatable. You nominated it, then posted a wikibreak notice. He's the main contributor. You may not agree with his actions, but you can't argue that it's not arguable. Nikkimaria (talk) 21:09, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

WP vs. Commons

Long story short, I can't support commons because I feel it supports and protects racist trolls. If you need to move a copy to Commons, feel free; just put a {{Keep Local}} on the original, since I also don't trust Commons' occasional deletion sprees.

Cheers,

Adam Cuerden (talk) 21:17, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured_sound_candidates/The_Thunderer

I don't think this one has any chance of passing; if you agree with that analysis, do you think you could withdraw it? It'll cut down the number of nominations a bit. =) Adam Cuerden (talk) 21:19, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured_sound_candidates/Response_to_the_Lewinsky_Allegations_(January_26,_1998)_Bill_Clinton

Is it possible to use edited audio on this? If you give me the synced audio track - you have my e-mail, I think - I'll send you one with the background noise removed. As it is, there's so much noise that it's hard to support.

Also Wikipedia:Featured_sound_candidates/Speech_Before_Congress_on_Voting_Rights_(March_15,_1965)_Lyndon_Baines_Johnson

By the way, please use the best possible sound settings on all your videos; this is, after all, featured sounds, so the sound quality is much more important than video. Adam Cuerden (talk) 17:15, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

FSCs

They're not short videos, Tony, and I do need to listen in full before voting. =) Adam Cuerden (talk) 19:13, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

Long videos

Have you considered dividing them into a few parts, to get around the 100 mb limit? Adam Cuerden (talk)

Well, play it by ear. These may not divide up well, but if you had a recording of an opera, say, then you might well want to divide it more. =) Adam Cuerden (talk) 00:15, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

Amazing Grace

I would suggest taking a break from that discussion, you seem to be getting overly worked-up. Saying that someone lacks sophistication and is a "hater", no matter how you may disagree with them, qualifies as a personal attack and is unhelpful in constructive conversation. Nikkimaria (talk) 13:17, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

Yours were the most blatant PAs on the page, unless I'm overlooking something; do you have diffs for someone else saying something comparable? Nikkimaria (talk) 13:33, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
That one's about equal to "gibberish", not as bad as "hater". Subjective quantifications aside, do you really think "she started it" is a good reason to start making blatant attacks? Nikkimaria (talk) 13:52, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

File:Address Before a Joint Session of Congress (February 24, 2009)-Barack Obama (WhiteHouse.gov).ogv

I don't suppose you could eke out a little more video quality with the remaining 25 megs? Adam Cuerden (talk) 19:13, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured_sound_candidates/First_Inaugural_(January_20,_1993)_Bill_Clinton

Also Wikipedia:Featured_sound_candidates/Jimmy_Carter's_Remarks_on_Joint_Statement_at_Camp_David_Summit_(September_17,_1978) and Wikipedia:Featured_sound_candidates/Statement_on_the_Panama_Canal_Treaty_Signing_(September_7,_1977)_Jimmy_Carter

Hey, Tony, would you mind withdrawing these for, say, a week or so, then renominating? These were part of the big batch, and seem to have been completely neglected, but I think they'd likely pass on a fresh nomination. Alternatively, we could leave it a bit longer and see if they attract people. Adam Cuerden (talk) 19:31, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

Well, I have no objection to leaving them open, or relisting. It's just that the FS directors are also regular voters. If it was closed, it'd be a voluntary action on your part, not a statement that it shouldn't pass. I'm just wondering if spacing out the big batch a bit more would speed up promotion of the ones that do have votes. Adam Cuerden (talk) 19:44, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

Another Star for your Wall

State of the Union Address (January 27, 2010) Barack Obama (1:09:44)
Your Featured sound candidate has been promoted
Your nomination for featured sound status, File:State of the Union Address (January 27, 2010) Barack Obama (WhiteHouse.gov-reedit).ogv, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate another sound, please do so at Wikipedia:Featured sound candidates. Sven Manguard Wha? 20:55, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

If those stars were physical, and you melted them all down, you could smelt yourself a life sized statue by now. Sven Manguard Wha? 20:55, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

Amazing Grace

The entire nomination is nothing but discussion about how difficult it is t get things into the articles; I don't see anything needing to be kept for when the debate finishes. =) Adam Cuerden (talk) 01:33, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

File:JFK Establishment of the Peace Corps edit.ogg Promoted!

JFK Establishment of the Peace Corps
Your Featured sound candidate has been promoted
Your nomination for featured sound status, File:JFK Establishment of the Peace Corps edit.ogg, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate another sound, please do so at Wikipedia:Featured sound candidates. —James (Talk • Contribs) • 11:36am • 01:36, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

Cadence

See military cadence. Hyacinth (talk) 02:21, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

See the newly created drum cadence. Hyacinth (talk) 02:50, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

Your welcome. Hyacinth (talk) 03:32, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

I don't know much about band music. The book under further reading says the pieces in it are arranged for "SNARE DRUMS, TRIOS, CYMBALS, AND TUNED BASS DRUMS." Marching band#Instrumentation lists "snare drums, tenor drums, bass drums, and cymbals" so that seems to be standard. Hyacinth (talk) 15:56, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Elite 88 Award

The DYK project (nominate) 08:04, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

Gery Chico

Thanks, but I did post a message on the project talk page on 13 April. Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Chicago#Gery Chico. Jezhotwells (talk) 18:00, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

Hey! Thanks for your advice. Please see Wikipedia:Good article reassessment/Gery Chico/1 Geread (talk) 05:52, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

Nomination of Louie Caporusso for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Louie Caporusso is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Louie Caporusso until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on good quality evidence, and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article. Geofth (talk) 18:16, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

Comment for you on Talk:Gunfight at the O.K. Corral/GA1

Tony, I've left a comment for you on Talk:Gunfight at the O.K. Corral/GA1. I'm trying to understand what about that article was so bad that it required a quickfail for citations. There are more than 100 citations in that article, and it's well written and meets all the GA criteria as listed. I'd very much appreciate if you could help me see what the issue was there. In a culture where Wikipedia is losing contributors daily, it's really important that we treat each other with respect and and recognize high quality work for what it is. There's no reason, to my mind, that this article deserved not only to be promoted to G.A., but particularly deserved a serious discussion of its merits. Philippe Beaudette, Wikimedia Foundation (talk) 19:33, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

GA Delisting and Quickfail

This is about why editors don't contribute or quit. As an editor, I am someplace in the middle: a regular contributor (10K+ edits over 4+ years) but not totally devoted to WP. I have recently been taken with Wyatt Earp, the Gunfight at the O.K. Corral, and related events and characters. Both of these articles were full of WP:POV and WP:OR and completely lacking WP:RS a couple of months ago. Articles about Wyatt Earp are present on many language versions of WP. I could not believe that the article about such a key figure in American pioneer history was so bad. I've worked diligently to become familiar with the many, complex sides of this historical figure, not a trivial task. I finally thought it was ready for GA, and to my surprise Wyatt Earp was readily approved by one editor, and then almost immediately delisted by you. You also quickfailed Gunfight at the O.K. Corral because it was missing citations.

I confess I was discouraged by the delisting and quickfail without the opportunity to immediately fix the article. You are a senior admin and huge contributor to WP (ranked #51). You appear to have gained the experience and acumen necessary to get articles into GA with one hand tied behind your back. It looks like an everyday thing for you -- Congratulations! Because of the large number of edits you make, you also have a vast impact on large numbers of users. Perhaps in your experience and familiarity with WP you have lost touch with the experience of less-committed editors. For someone like me getting an article to GA is still a bit of a tendentious process that I engage in with some trepidation. Your actions were IMO callous and ungracious, bordering on lacking good faith. I hope I'm not whining.

I know WP has suffered from a loss of editors. I personally know two experienced Admins who have retired due to abuse by other admins. I suggest you:

  • take a couple more seconds to think about other's contributions, especially those of us who are in the middle, before you hit the button and delist, etc.
  • take a minute to educate and assist.
  • take some time to educate other admins to take a bit more care in helping editors along.
  • amend the standard of don't bite the newcomer to include a more generous dose of good faith to those who've been around a bit longer.

IMO, it's not the number of edits or GA articles that necessarily make an editor #1 on WP. It's about helping others to make better contributions.

My 2 cents. — btphelps (talk) (contribs) 19:35, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

Remarks on the State of the Union and Lewinsky Allegations
A sound file uploaded by you has been promoted to featured sound status.
Your sound file, File:Response to the Lewinsky Allegations (January 26, 1998) Bill Clinton.ogv was nominated on Wikipedia:Featured sound candidates, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate a sound file, please do so at Wikipedia:Featured sound candidates. Thank you for your contribution! —James (Talk • Contribs) • 10:22am • 00:22, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

Keep it up Tony :) —James (Talk • Contribs) • 10:22am • 00:22, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

Another One

Four ruffles and flourishes, hail to the chief (long version)
Your Featured sound candidate has been promoted
Your nomination for featured sound status, File:Four ruffles and flourishes, hail to the chief (long version).ogg, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate another sound, please do so at Wikipedia:Featured sound candidates. Sven Manguard Wha? 01:05, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

Your addition to Chamber Music

Sorry for having reverted your addition of sound files to the article. They are nice, but they are not chamber music, nor were they particularly relevant to the discussion where you included them. The section is about music after Debussy.

I suggest you add them to the article on Orchestra. They certainly are good examples of new orchestration techniques used by the impressionist composers (the use of the harp, for example).

Regards, --Ravpapa (talk) 06:41, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

The Signpost: 18 April 2011

Seized Website image.png

Regarding Image:Seized Website image.png, no, I don't think you created that image. However, it is a work of the Federal Government, so it's free from copyright via a different template, namely Template:PD-USGov-DOJ. -- Kendrick7talk 07:05, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

FWIW, I'm not sure what to make of your commented out mention of me on DYK. While I've been annoyed in the past to get over looked in the whole creator/expander dynamic (I used to stub out many an article), I honestly don't want any credit on this one; let's just say I happen to have a lot of extra free time on my hands when sitting in front of the computer lately. So, thanks, I guess, but still, may the good Lord help me if I get too sucked into the project again ;) -- Kendrick7talk 06:34, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

Sunflower Slow Drag

I kind of wish you hadn't withdrawn this so fast: It's uncontroversial that ragtime was regularly performed by small bands at the time, and this could've served as an example of that; e.g. "not too many, but we could use a couple." Adam Cuerden (talk) 19:35, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

Chartered Financial Analyst

Hey TonyTheTiger,

It turns out that my proposal for Chartered Financial Analyst page was not approved by my class instructor because it was irrelevant to the class and especially the "Copyleft" group that I was assigned to. My new proposal is to create a new article page about "Copyfree" which is originated as a play on the terms "Copyleft" and "Copyright". I am not sure the article exists on wikipedia althought i could not find it. I would like to compare Copyleft and Copyfree in terms of definition, popularity, uses and other aspects on the wiki page. This semester is coming to an end and I will definitely make substantial positive contributions in the following one or two weeks.

Feedbacks would be appreciated

Thank you very much.

sincerely

Justin Zhao — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zx4611869 (talk • contribs) 22:09, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of File:Silent Night (choral).ogg

A tag has been placed on File:Silent Night (choral).ogg requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section F2 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is an image page for a missing or corrupt image or an empty image description page for a Commons-hosted image.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, contest the deletion by clicking on the button that looks like this: which appears inside of the speedy deletion ({{db-...}}) tag (if no such tag exists, the page is no longer a speedy delete candidate). Doing so will take you to the talk page where you will find a pre-formatted place for you to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. You can also visit the the page's talk page directly to give your reasons, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Guerillero | My Talk 23:15, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

Struck out per DTTR. Its still up for CSD but its a house keeping sort of thing --Guerillero | My Talk 23:17, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

Gery Chico GAR

The GAR for Gery Chico seems to be taking a rather long time. Do you think I should withdraw it and send the article back to GAN? Or should I just wait at GAR? Geread (talk) 13:27, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

Theatre Project collaboration

Percy Grainger

Hi, Tony the T. Thanks for finding and uploading a soundfile to the Grainger article. It will take a while to get that article into shape, but yours is a good contribution. Brianboulton (talk) 16:34, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

Attention
A sound file uploaded by you has been promoted to featured sound status.
Your sound file, File:Attention.ogg was nominated on Wikipedia:Featured sound candidates, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate a sound file, please do so at Wikipedia:Featured sound candidates. Thank you for your contribution! Acather96 (talk) 17:04, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

Music stands

Hi. The plot should not contain production information, such as the info about the music stands. Other productions might use electronic screens, or the actresses might be "off book". That is why I put the music stands above in the history section above. The black clothing could be mentioned though, as it seems to be part of the script. Three refs is excessive, though. -- Ssilvers (talk) 23:14, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

Hi. The Plot section also should not refer to any particular production (you refer to Off-Broadway). That info should go above, with the production history: It's not "plot". Would you please move it up? All the best. -- Ssilvers (talk) 23:22, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. I think that makes more sense and helps to organize the information being presented. I hope you are satisfied with it, and I don't want you to be unhappy with the presentation, so it is up to you - if you really disagree, feel free to present it as you think best. I'm really more concerned with how the musicals are presented, where we have a pretty consistent style and have reflected that in our guidelines. I don't usually work on non-musical plays, which are under the jurisdiction of the Theatre project, which has historically had little central planning. It seems to be more active now, which is great. All the best, -- Ssilvers (talk) 23:48, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia Ambassador Program Newsletter: 22 April 2011



This is the fourth issue of the Wikipedia Ambassador Program Newsletter, with details about what's going on right now and where help is needed.


Delivered by EdwardsBot (talk) 16:37, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

File:Colonel Bogey.ogg

Thanks for uploading all those U. S. military music recordings, especially the British Grenadiers. I've been uploading some as well on seeing that (I'm guessing you skipped Jack Tar since the Navy website didn't mention it's by Souza and from the 1900s). This one is copyright in its source country, the U.K., until 2016, but not in the U.S., so it should be on Wikipedia, tagged with {{PD-US-1923-abroad|2016}}; I can upload but not download ogg files. 22:42, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

Jack Tar I uploaded to Commons; can you move Colonel Bogey? —innotata 15:22, 23 April 2011 (UTC)
No, can you upload a copy to Wikipedia, with the tag I mentioned: it needs to be deleted on Commons. —innotata 15:26, 23 April 2011 (UTC)
Jack Tar is at File:Jack Tar March.ogg (search shows it now). I see you've moved Colonel Bogey. —innotata 15:39, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

Re: WP:LEAD

Can you quote me back where WP:LEAD says what you think it says, regarding bolding to be united in the first para? I couldn't find it -- Kendrick7talk 06:42, 23 April 2011 (UTC) Furthermore, if I could find it, I'd change it, because it's obviously a brain-dead requirement. -- Kendrick7talk 06:44, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

I agree with that, but it goes on to specify "These may include alternative spellings, longer or shorter forms, historical names, significant names in other languages, etc." I agree (although I'll usually footnote such things rather than clutter the lead). That's not at all what is at issue here, imo. Compare, say, my work at Apocalypse of Zerubbabel, where there really are other historical titles, or Toledoth Jesu where there are a ton of alternate spellings due to cross lingual transliterations. WP:LEAD here is addressing a totally different matter than merely bolded titles of related issues merged into the same article. -- Kendrick7talk 06:59, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

Clinton/Lewinksy FS

Hi, thinking of displaying it at F and A this week, but is there any way of removing the little brown rectangle bottom-left? Tony (talk) 09:25, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

Your comments

Your post makes no sense. If my purpose is to get the article to FA, then whether the GA process is easy or hard is irrelevant, because the plus is lost if the star is gained, and FA reviewers are not undemanding. I think we both know the answer lies elsewhere. Please be guided accordingly in future.--Wehwalt (talk) 17:35, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

In the interests of settling a distracting matter, if you are willing to keep out of this and my articles henceforth, I will not raise an objection if you summarily promote as reviewer on the second nomination. That includes all levels of review. I will enter into the same understanding. You need only respond by taking the action suggested; I do not have this page watchlisted and will not be returning here any time soon.--Wehwalt (talk) 21:05, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

New FS

Clinton - Remarks on the signing of NAFTA
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Your sound file, File:Remarks on the Signing of NAFTA (December 8, 1993) Bill Clinton.ogv was nominated on Wikipedia:Featured sound candidates, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate a sound file, please do so at Wikipedia:Featured sound candidates. Thank you for your contribution! —James (Talk • Contribs) • 12:36pm • 02:36, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

Infobox skyscraper

Hi Tony. As you may have noticed on your watchlist the long awaited merger of infobox skyscraper is finally happening so you may wish to add the pin maps you wanted now. Hopefully we can get shot of the decimal coordinates and map type and make them standard pushpin and DMS. The plan is also to merge infobox hotel and infobox casino, although I'm hoping to keep the suitable header colors.♦ Dr. Blofeld 08:50, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

Image

Hey, TonyTheTiger. In the above image, the licensing tag indicates that the image is free, but the image also includes a non-free use rationale for the image. Can you clarify on the image's copyright status? If the license does not permit commercial reuse and derivative works, the image is not considered free. Swarm X 09:57, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

Talk page

Would you mind avoiding my talk page unless there is great need? While I did not actually read your posts, from the edit summaries I am gathering these are not matters of urgency, and perhaps would be best deferred or not sent at all. You can't be asking me to undertake an administrative task, so that can't be it. There likely will come a time when I am more willing to engage with you, but I think posting to my talk page at present is just escalating matters. No need for a reply, unless it makes you feel better.--Wehwalt (talk) 17:22, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

Main page appearance

Hello! This is a note to let the main editors of this article know that it will be appearing as the main page featured article on May 1, 2011. You can view the TFA blurb at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/May 1, 2011. If you think it is necessary to change the main date, you can request it with the featured article director, Raul654 (talk · contribs). If the previous blurb needs tweaking, you might change it—following the instructions of the suggested formatting. If this article needs any attention or maintenance, it would be preferable if that could be done before its appearance on the Main Page so Wikipedia doesn't look bad. :D Thanks! Tbhotch* ۩ ۞ 20:34, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

Millenium Park, as seen from the Aon Center

Millennium Park is a public park located in the Loop community area of Chicago in Illinois, USA. It is a prominent civic center near the city's Lake Michigan shoreline that covers a 24.5-acre (9.9 ha) section of northwestern Grant Park. The area was previously occupied by parkland, Illinois Central rail yards and parking lots. The park, which is bounded by Michigan Avenue, Randolph Street, Columbus Drive and East Monroe Drive, features a variety of public art. As of 2009, Millennium Park trailed only Navy Pier as a Chicago tourist attraction. Planning of the park began in October 1997. Construction began in October 1998, and Millennium Park was opened in a ceremony on July 16, 2004, four years behind schedule. The three-day opening celebrations were attended by some 300,000 people and included an inaugural concert by the Grant Park Orchestra and Chorus. The park has received awards for its accessibility and green design. Millennium Park has free admission, and features the Jay Pritzker Pavilion, Cloud Gate, the Crown Fountain, the Lurie Garden and other attractions. The park is connected by the BP Pedestrian Bridge and the Nichols Bridgeway to other parts of Grant Park. Millennium Park is considered to be the city's most important project since the World's Columbian Exposition of 1893, and it far exceeded its originally proposed budget of $150 million. (more...)

The Signpost: 25 April 2011

Union Stock Yards

I have reverted your change to Union Stock Yards. Please do not add content without any citation to confirm it.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 00:35, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

The citation is there <http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-208326394.html> and gives the full date in the first sentence.Goldnpuppy (talk) 01:43, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

'1993' - Bill Clinton's First Inaugural
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Your sound file, File:First Inaugural (January 20, 1993) Bill Clinton.ogv was nominated on Wikipedia:Featured sound candidates, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate a sound file, please do so at Wikipedia:Featured sound candidates. Thank you for your contribution! ~~~~

Your edit

Why did you delete my response to Dank in posting just now? I reverted, you may want to repost.--Wehwalt (talk) 18:21, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

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Daniel Coughlin

Dear Tony The Tiger: I've nominated the article Daniel Coughlin for Good Article status. Would you consider reviewing it? Also, I also nominated it for a DYK note,and it looks like that DYK will appear in the next few days. Finally, a more general wikipedia question. The article has been tagged as part of three wiki projects: Chicago, Biography, and Catholicism. As you know, the quality for Chicago was changed from stub to B. However, no one in the other groups has taken a look. Is it true that once the quality (not the importance) has been assessed by one group, an editor can assign that same quality level to other projects, or do I have to wait until someone from each group takes a look. Thanks for the help! NearTheZoo (talk) 14:37, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Semper Fidelis (march)

The DYK project (nominate) 12:02, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

David Fedderly

I've reorganized David Fedderly (using better sources) since you voted "Neutral leaning delete" at the AfD. Have I improved it enough to lean you the other way? - Pointillist (talk) 01:05, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

FSes

Address before a Joint Session of Congress (52:20)
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Your nomination for featured sound status, File:Address Before a Joint Session of Congress (February 24, 2009) - Barack Obama (WhiteHouse.gov).ogv, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate another sound, please do so at Wikipedia:Featured sound candidates. Adam Cuerden (talk) 14:29, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
King Cotton
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Manhattan Beach
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The Gallant Seventh
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Radetzky March
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Rolling Thunder
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Your nomination for featured sound status, File:RollingThunder (USAFB).ogg, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate another sound, please do so at Wikipedia:Featured sound candidates. Adam Cuerden (talk) 14:29, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
The Circus Bee
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Your nomination for featured sound status, File:The Circus Bee.ogg, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate another sound, please do so at Wikipedia:Featured sound candidates. Adam Cuerden (talk) 14:29, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

By the way, don't type [[w:Enwikiarticle]]</nowiki, type <nowiki>[[w:Enwikiarticle|]] - the | at the end automatically hides the w:

Adam Cuerden (talk) 14:27, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

Talkback

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WikiCup 2011 April newsletter

Round 2 of the 2011 WikiCup is over, and the new round will begin on 1 May. Note that any points scored in the interim (that is, for content promoted or reviews completed on 29-30 April) can be claimed in the next round, but please do not start updating your submissions' pages until the next round has begun. Fewer than a quarter of our original contestants remain; 32 enter round 3, and, in two months' time, only 16 will progress to our penultimate round. Scotland Casliber (submissions), who led Pool F, was our round champion, with 411 points, while 7 contestants scored between 200 and 300 points. At the other end of the scale, a score of 41 was high enough to reach round 3; more than five times the score required to reach round 2, and competition will no doubt become tighter now we're approaching the later rounds. Those progressing to round 3 were spread fairly evenly across the pools; 4 progressed from each of pools A, B, E and H, while 3 progressed from both pools C and F. Pools D and G were the most successful; each had 5 contestants advancing.

This round saw our first good topic points this year; congratulations to Zanzibar Hurricanehink (submissions) and Assyrian people Nergaal (submissions) who also led pool H and pool B respectively. However, there remain content types for which no points have yet been scored; featured sounds, featured portals and featured topics. In addition to prizes for leaderboard positions, the WikiCup awards other prizes; for instance, last year, a prize was awarded to Democratic Republic of the Congo Candlewicke (submissions) (who has been eliminated) for his work on In The News. For this reason, working on more unusual content could be even more rewarding than usual!

Sorry this newsletter is going out a little earlier than expected- there is a busy weekend coming up! A running total of claims can be seen here. If you are concerned that your nomination will not receive the necessary reviews, and you hope to get it promoted before the end of the round, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews. However, please remember to continue to offer reviews at GAC, FAC and all the other pages that require them to prevent any backlogs which could otherwise be caused by the Cup. As ever, questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup and the judges are reachable on their talk pages, or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start receiving or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn and The ed17 19:32, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Help_desk#Template:Listen_breaking_at_Alisa_Weilerstein

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GA reassessment

An article that you have recently reviewed for GA, April 2011 Fukushima earthquake, has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the good article reassessment page. Strange Passerby (talk • cont) 03:36, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

DYK for United States v. Scheinberg

The DYK project (nominate) 12:02, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

FS

Seventeen Come Sunday
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