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User page

Hi. Real simple...just introduce yourself, tell us what are your hobbies, where were you born, etc. Also, Wikipedia:Userboxes will show you how to create one. Just anything that describess you. Hope this helps! Snoozlepet (talk) 20:36, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

Yep...you are correct, this is the standard table format for all airports. Snoozlepet (talk) 21:14, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

BDL

Yep, it is correct. The WP:AIRPORTS editor consensus was to merge the tables together. If you check the majority of the airport tables, you can see that they are all merged together. Regards! Snoozlepet (talk) 04:40, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

BDL

Since the IP did not provide any sources for the edit, I went ahead and removed it unless he can find some sort of an announcement from each of the airlines. Snoozlepet (talk) 01:42, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

I went ahead and tagged it as "unreferenced" until we can find sources for the services. Snoozlepet (talk) 03:59, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

March 2010

Welcome to Wikipedia. Everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia. However, please do not add promotional material to articles or other Wikipedia pages, as you did to Microsoft Flight Simulator. Advertising and using Wikipedia as a "soapbox" is against Wikipedia policy and not permitted. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about Wikipedia. Thank you. Halsteadk (talk) 12:44, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

MSFS Podcast Section

As you may notice just above my answer here, I'm not the only one to think they (at least) looked actually like advertising. Slasher-fun (talk) 19:45, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

Tofutwitch, I don't have a serious objection to the fact that these services are mentioned in an appropriate part of the article (and with appropriate prominence given their importance to the overall subject), but even if your contribution wasn't "advertising" it was highly non-neutral POV, which is against anyone's interpretation of Wikipedia's rules. It was sufficiently overt that it resembled spam and Slasher-fun rightfully deleted it. It's irrelevant that you're not part of the organisation - you can still advertise or promote it, and you most certainly did - the actual rules are no POV or advertising by anyone regardless of connection to an organisation, and with further guidance that if you were connected to the organisation you should avoid editing anything about it at all, not just not promote it. As you said on Slasher-fun's talk page, you didn't favour one above the other - but you favoured these two over any other.
Moving forward, it may be appropriate to mention that these services exist, along with stats on number of users and how long they've been running to show that these are the most notable such services. You said one had a "long great history since January 2009" - that doesn't sound very long in the scheme of MSFS, and who's to say it's "great"?! The MSFS article has been subject to a lot of excessive linking, so in the past, usage (eg using the Alexa website traffic tool) has been used as a non-arguable, independent baseline for determining notability - not the subjective view of how good they are. You would need to agree to the basis that if other similar services are actually more popular, these two would likely be removed. And if it turns out only a tiny proportion of the FS community uses them, then they shouldn't be included at all. Regards, Halsteadk (talk) 12:55, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

RE:MinuteClinic

There was nothing wrong with the article itself. It appeared that you were experimenting with the file formats and messages because they were changed from SVG to JPG and back SVG. If this was not the case, I apologize for the message. EWikistTalk 14:53, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

(In response to this.) There was nothing wrong with what you did. From recent changes point of view, it looked like you were testing things. Remember, even if the page isn't visited often, all edits pop up on the recent changes page, so, out of context, your edits may seem problematic (even though they weren't). Using the edit summary will help keep this from happening. EWikistTalk 15:03, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
File Copyright problem
File Copyright problem

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Rollback decline

Hi Tofutwitch11,

I have declined your request for rollback rights at this time, based largely on your edit summaries which are frequently in a tone that is less than friendly. Don't take this as a judgement against your efforts or potential, as my first attempt at gaining admin rights failed for the same reason. Show me a month or so of improved communication and I'd be happy to grant you the rollback tool. Thanks! Hiberniantears (talk) 20:05, 15 August 2010 (UTC)


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Boston Virtual ATC

Regarding your question on an article for Boston Virtual ATC, apologies that I've taken so long to respond. Much of my editing is limited to the weekends these days. My primary advice would be to keep any such article objective, i.e. "Boston Virtual ATC" is a company that does XYZ. The company was founded in <year> by <founders>.". Then, if you have third party sources that are not reprocessed press releases from the company, you can use those to expand on the article and bolster the notability. Generally avoid using the company's own press releases/website to ascribe notability, but do use their materials to describe their products/services, being careful to distill any of the company's own marketing/sales language from such descriptions.

I'd be happy to take a look at the article, and encourage you to post it! I've spent much of my admin related time here working on candidates for speedy deletion, and I generally try to rework articles that are well-meaning attempts to describe a notable company. If this page is your sub-space already, I'll gladly give it a proof read and make suggested changes to give you a comparative set of drafts. Hiberniantears (talk) 15:23, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

And after a basic Google search] on the topic, it looks like you should be able to pull together at least some sources... albeit it without anything from the news section, but I think we can work with this. As a Bostonian, and business flyer, the topic is also quite interesting to me. Hiberniantears (talk) 15:29, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

Non-free files in your user space

Hey there Tofutwitch11, thank you for your contributions. I am a bot, alerting you that non-free files are not allowed in user or talk space. I removed some files I found on User:Tofutwitch11/Boston Virtual ATC. In the future, please refrain from adding fair-use files to your user-space drafts or your talk page.

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It was a test page in which I had permission to use both files....Tofutwitch11 (talk) 12:10, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

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I replied to your request for feedback. Chevymontecarlo 08:16, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for File:RADARBVA.png

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Understood, but, number one, it was in a talk page not an article, and simply there for testing purposes. It has since been fixed, and the article has been published. Tofutwitch11 (talk) 12:18, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:BVA TowerLogo.png

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It was removed from the article as an updated one was uploaded. I will remove the file. Tofutwitch11 (talk) 11:31, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

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Since been resolved. Tofutwitch11 (talk) 00:23, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

Rollback granted

I have enabled your rollback functionality. Keep up the good work. Hiberniantears (talk) 14:42, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

pig

Good save.[1] 69.3.72.249 (talk) 22:42, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

Yup:-). I thought it said something else.Tofutwitch11 (talk) 22:56, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

animal sex photos

If you can think of a better place to explain he sent photos of a woman having sex with a horse let me know. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nydied (talk • contribs) 01:29, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

The reason I reverted the edits to Carl Paladino were because the information was not sourced and was not presented in a correct format. Tofutwitch11 (talk) 01:34, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

OK I now have two sources.

What else do I need to do? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nydied (talk • contribs) 01:48, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

It does not follow WP guidelines and has been reverted by other users. Tofutwitch11 (TALK) 20:13, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

Gavelkind - William the Bastard

You wrote: Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did with this edit to the page Gavelkind. Such edits constitute vandalism and are reverted. Please do not continue to make unconstructive edits to pages; use the sandbox for testing. Thank you. Tofutwitch11 (TALK) 00:51, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

After I corrected an innacuracy in Wikipedia. "The Conqueror" is inaccurate. See the entry for Swanscombe:

Norman Conquest

In 1066 Swanscombe locals massed an army in defiance of William I, and so won the right to continue their ancient privileges, including the tradition of passing inheritance by gavelkind. The men of Kent met William near Swanscombe, where the Saxons concealed their number with branches, thus intimidating the Norman army. They were offered a truce that left Kent as the only region in England which William did not conquer, and leaving William known as William the Bastard (never conqueror) in this area of England alone. Kent County Council have inherited the motto Invicta, meaning unconquered.

William was William the Bastard in Kent. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Seamanrob (talk • contribs) 00:56, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

Your edits to Gavelkind were unsourced and seemed to be vandalism. If what you are adding is true please provide a reliable source. Tofutwitch11 (TALK) 01:10, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

Apart from the Swanscombe reference from Wikipedia itself, I have http://flagspot.net/flags/gb-kent.html The "Invicta" motto is associated with the story of the Treaty of Swanscombe in 1067: according to local legend, William the Bastard, having seized the English throne, was travelling to Dover when he was met by the Cantware (the People of Kent). They demanded from him their ancient laws and rights, in which case he would have their loyalty, or else "battle most deadly". William granted the request, and Kent acceded to his reign by treaty, hence getting the motto "Invicta" (unconquered). I have lived in Kent all my life, and can vouch for the fact that William is never styled "Conqueror" by anyone native to the County. Karl Wittwer, 24 July 2004

Also from this page: http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/s/t/e/Richard-Steel/FILE/0002page.html The first historical reference to the castle is in Domesday Book, in which it is mentinned as the place where William the Conqueror signed a treaty with the Men of Kent whom he never conquered in that area.

Also this page: http://www.downlandcycles.co.uk/invicta.htm A little bit of history Invicta The "Invicta" motto is associated with the story of the Treaty of Swanscombe of 1067. According to local legend, William the Bastard, (later known as William the Conqueror), having seized the English throne was traveling to Dover.

William was met by the Cantware (the People of Kent), they demanded from him their ancient laws and rights. These stated that he would have their loyalty, or else "battle most deadly".

William granted the request, and Kent acceded to his reign by treaty, hence getting the motto "Invicta" (unconquered).

And also on a personal level, I have never referred to William as that word. He will always be the Bastard to me. And that is a reference to his parentage! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Seamanrob (talk • contribs) 01:32, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

If can provide a reliable source that he was in fact referred to as William the Bastard it will not be reverted. It seemed to constitute vandalism due to the name you put next to him. Thanks for cooperating. Tofutwitch11 (TALK) 01:35, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

Hi. Reliable source. British Monarchy website: http://www.royal.gov.uk/HistoryoftheMonarchy/KingsandQueensofEngland/TheNormans/WilliamItheConqueror.aspx

First few lines. Born around 1028, William was the illegitimate son of Duke Robert I of Normandy, and Herleve (also known as Arlette), daughter of a tanner in Falaise. Known as 'William the Bastard' to his contemporaries, his illegitimacy shaped his career when he was young. Seamanrob (talk) 01:47, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

Feel free to add that bit of information to the article, just make sure you don't copy that exact sentence, as that would be plagiarism. Please make sure to add the reference with your post by adding the Cite error: There are <ref> tags on this page without content in them (see the help page). tags. Thanks Tofutwitch11 (TALK) 12:01, 18 September 2010 (UTC)


Thanks

Hey I am glad you are helping me out with this, I really appreciate it! Benorg (talk) 01:37, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

Deletion of iFlyOnline

The template that you used says basically "please hold off on deletion until I explain on the talk page why it shouldn't be deleted". Once a message is posted on the talk page, the template is nothing more than a message of "please look at the talk page". I looked at the talk page, read your message, decided that your message wasn't a compelling enough reason to avoid deletion, and decided that the page itself really didn't demonstrate why the website was important enough to deserve coverage in an encyclopedia. Would you like me to restore the page to your userspace? Tell me and I'll be happy to do it. Nyttend (talk) 19:04, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

You may now find the article at User:Tofutwitch11/IFlyOnline. Nyttend (talk) 19:18, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

Reviewer permission

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Vito Mannone

All right, revert my edit if you want, I don't really mind, I'll probably never look at the page again. But that is a genuinely meaningless sentence. It is incomprehensible. Someone who knows more about Vito Mannone than I do, should look at it and either cut it or re-write it. I know you're busy, but look at it yourself. Does it make sense? No. That's all I was saying. Good luck anyway. Ewen —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.144.195.43 (talk) 19:38, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

I reverted the tag you placed on it, should not be there. A better suggestion is to rewrite, or remove the sentence. Tofutwitch11 (TALK) 19:41, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

Vandalism???

Iberia has announced that they are flying to LAX in April 2011. Why is it vandalism that I list the fact along with a press release? I would refrain from calling me vandal. I make constructive edits and have a history of correcting numerous vandalism attempts. The true vandal will be someone possibly like yourself who removes cited information and slanders other editors. Be careful with your choice of words and do not write on my page. Further attempt will be labeled "Vandalism". --XLR8TION (talk) 20:13, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

Well, according to WP:AIRPORTS you added information to several articles that provided a month, but no specific date, and was not bookable in any system. I warned you for adding this information, after having several editors revert your edits, several times, and warn you that was not correct. I was acting appropriately in that situation, I'm sorry you don't feel that way. Tofutwitch11 (TALK) 20:32, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

I UNDERSTAND, DO WHAT EVER YOU LIKE on Mya Aye

If I fight back, the group of Wiki editors would come and punish me. If punish also no much problem. I am staying away from wiki (i.e. contributions , except for taking references) for a long time. Mya Aye IS A MUSLIM. So people are attacking him esp when her daughter recently became popular, attacking military government of Myanmar. They renewed attacking him because of his daughter's activities like attacking General Aung San because of daughter Daw Aung San Suu Kyi. But if Mya Aye, popular student leader in jail is not important, GO AND TELL NOBLE COMITTEE not to be foolish to give the Noble Peace prize to a Chinese in jail. May be we all campaign to delete all the biography from Wiki because we need to keep the deletion of Mya Aye as a bench mark. TQ, NOW PUNISH ME, WELCOME. 

(Note: I wrote in anger, never edit back. There may be a lot of errors which I don't CARE.Darz kkg (talk) 06:46, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
Well, I'm not exactly sure what happened. I went back to my contribs from the 6 October 2010, and tried to find where I put the speedy deletion tag on Mya Eye. I could not, I could only find where I put the notice on your talk page, which means A: The Page Was Deleted or B: The Page was merged with the page you see now at Mya Aye, which is why you think I put a SD tag on that page. Sorry for any confusion, Tofutwitch11 (TALK) 12:37, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
TQ for the reply. Sorry for the misunderstanding. As a coincidence, Mya Aye's daughter, a university student in UK was very active against Myanmar Military Government and was shown on CNN, BBC, YouTube etc. As her campaingn is very effective against the gov at this imp. time of SHAM election, Military Intelligence Cyber Troopers trained in Russia, China and North Korea are attacking her calling "KALA MA" like Niggar girl. This is a derogatory word used on Muslims in Myanmar. Even Burmese Buddhists and Burmese Christians are angry with those Cybertroopers and are trying defend her. Because of her, her father's article in Wiki since 1997 is attacked. (We don't mean it is you, sorry) We Wiki cofounder came to Malaysia last week, he was preaching the Malaysian gov to stop censorship. I wrote to him as a comment in the most popular Int. Portal that what Wiki was doing is also amounting indirect censorship. You could see that my articles in Wiki were cut into multiple pieces and later merged again. While different Wiki editors are doing these, some facts are lost in action. And my edit history are also totally erased. And for the reference on these kind of dissidents it if difficult to get the written reference because their stories and even names are banned in Myanmar. You can see on BBC CNN etc. I know this is not the place for discussion like this but when I searched and put in at the last time I WAS PUNISHED for disruption ofWiki adm. I am busy working for 12-13 hr every day 363 days per year. No time to read all Wiki rules. Just trial and error only but managed to contribute quite a lot but fed up with Wiki and stopped contributing. Darz kkg (talk) 13:26, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

Mya Aye

Hi. I noticed that you added a message to Darz kkg's talk page saying that the Mya Aye article was being nominated for speedy deletion. However, you don't seem to have actually nominated it. Could you either nominate the article or explain that you've changed your mind to Darz kkg? Cordless Larry (talk) 08:40, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

As I said to Darz kkg when I went back into my contribs to see why I placed the SD tag on the article (which it also says on the tag) I could not find the contrib, just the contrib of when I placed the note on his talk page. This means that the contrib was deleted, which generally means A: The Page was deleted or B: The page was merged with the current page you see at Mya Aye, thus thinking I placed Speedy Deletion templates on the current page. Infact, if you look at the current page, you will see I have never edited the page. The Speedy Deletion template was placed on a different page, which is no longer here. Thanks. Tofutwitch11 (TALK) 12:44, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

RfA

Hi, it's good to see editors taking an interest in our RfA process, and I've noticed you would like to be an admin too some day. I'm therefore curious to know how you would answer your question yourself ;) --Kudpung (talk) 10:23, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

I have an ideal answer I am looking for from the candidate, when it comes time for my RFA (next year) you can ask me that. :-) Tofutwitch11 (TALK) 17:47, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

AfD

Could you please take alook at this Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Paul Gerhard Vogel, and perhaps leave a comment there as to how you think the debate should be closed. On the other hand if you feel you don't want to get involved, I would still value your opinion on it on my talk page. Thanks.--Kudpung (talk) 03:35, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

I'll leave my comments.Tofutwitch11 (TALK) 11:22, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
Thank you for your input. It will be interesting to see how the closing admin sums it all up. --Kudpung (talk) 13:00, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
:-) Tofutwitch11 (TALK) 13:22, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

please

please add my vote for RFA

Oppose. This person is a better candidate for Czech Wikipedia. Also see Tofuwitch11's comments under neutral. Housekeepers (talk) 18:31, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

Sure, but why can't you do it? Tofutwitch11 (TALK) 20:56, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

Please don't proxy vote for others. Especially as you didn't even disclose on the RfA page that you were voting on behalf of another user. But you shouldn't do it anyways. /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 00:12, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
Well he asked me, I didn't see anything wrong in the beginning, but now I know. Tofutwitch11 (TALK) 01:12, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

[[Boston Virtual ATC

Wikipedia:Criteria for nomination of deletion nomination of Boston Virtual ATC

A tag has been placed on Boston Virtual ATC requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. It has been nominated under the rules of WP:CORP. Please contact me on my talk page. If this article deletion nomination is not opposed by October 24th it will be deleted. Thanks, -|->TheFSaviator-|-> (talk) 19:43, 17 October 2010 (UTC)


The Article Boston Virtual ATC provides fourteen sources to it's information and has been reviewed by administrators before it was published as an article. Compare it to articles with related topics, VATSIM, IVAO. It is competent with WP:IRS They are both written in the same way. I have taken much information from their website and provided sources for it. I also saw that an article you wrote, Boston John was deleted, and then moved to User:TheFSaviator/Boston John. If you need help writing articles just ask, but please don't place tags on articles without doing further research. If you still think the article should be deleted, tell me why. It seems you are very new to Wikipedia, you should check out the Getting Started Guide. Thanks. Tofutwitch11 (TALK) 21:05, 17 October 2010 (UTC)


The article lists fourteen sources, 11 of which are from the Organization's official website. The other 3 include one from the Virtual Airline's tracking client, of which anyone can join, and one which is not a source at all but rather more of a "see also" not actually providing any evidence or reporting. Encyclopedic entries in Wikipedia should only be a page if someone has done some sort of writing on it, preferably reputable news sources. I would not have nominated the article for deletion if I had found any reputable news source of study of some sort been written about it. If you look at my page that I wrote over a year ago you'll notice it was speedily deleted. Honestly I'm not sure how that relates to this. Overall I haven't found a good reason for the article to need to be included in WP. —Preceding unsigned comment added by TheFSaviator (talk • contribs) 21:56, 17 October 2010 (UTC)


Your right. There are no news reports or anything in the media about the subject, Boston Virtual ATC. But does that mean it cannot have a Wikipedia Article? I am currently writing articles about organization similar to this, and saying that they should not be allowed to be written about is wrong. We are here to expand Wikipedia, expand this bowl of knowledge. I would not have published this article on my own, it was reviewed by administrators with thousands of edits (you have a few hundred). There is nothing majorly wrong with the article, and no underlying cause for a deletion of it. It is a well written and informational article. The information was taken from thier website insuring it was as factual as possible. Because the organization is not famous, does not mean it cannot have an article. As previously mentioned, I am writing articles of similar organizations such as this. Sorry you don't agree. Tofutwitch11 (TALK) 22:19, 17 October 2010 (UTC)


The article is well written. I'm not disputing that. But, quoting directly from WP:Notability,

'Lack of multiple sources suggests that the topic may be more suitable for inclusion in an article on a broader topic. Mere republications of a single source or news wire service do not always constitute multiple works. Several journals simultaneously publishing articles in the same geographic region about an occurrence, does not always constitute multiple works, especially when the authors are relying on the same sources, and merely restating the same information. Specifically, several journals publishing the same article within the same geographic region from a news wire service is not a multiplicity of works.

Wikipedia is not a sinkhole of every single thing in the universe. I never said your organization needed to be "famous", but it does need to be notable. This is the reason I put up the deletion nomination. Which admins have you checked it over with? I'd like to see what they have to say regarding this. And you forgot to remove the categorization I added along with the nomination.-|->TheFSaviator-|-> (talk) 02:02, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
First of all, it is not my organization. Your right, there weren't any outside sources for the information, but people do speak of Boston Virtual ATC on outside public forums, discussions, etc. Because there are no news reports, or reviews does not mean it is not notable. I'm not sure if you are an active Flight Simulator X user, but, everyone who uses the multilayer functions of Flight Simulator X at least see the name of this organization, that is how I was inspired to write this article. After looking at their server in the GameSpy lobby since 2006 I decided to write this article. This article contains sources for the information in-closed, while it may be mostly from the organization itself, it is better than some articles which have one to two sources.
Take a look at IVAO Their article lists eleven sources which:
  • One is Repeated
  • In one they are only mentioned once and it focuses majorly on VATSIM
  • One is a wikipedia article
  • One is a dead link
  • The remaining seven are from IVAO itself.
The IVAO article has remained present since it was created in June 2006.
I have placed a tag on the Boston Virtual ATC page noting that it may not abide by WP:NOTABILITY. Deletion is not the correct path to take in this place as of all the articles on Wikipedia, it provides sources none-the-less and is written in a whole and complete manner. For now this is where we should end the discussion. The tag on the page will let people know what is going on and encourage people to search and add more sources. Happy Editing. Tofutwitch11 (TALK) 19:28, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

*hug*

*hug* Gurch (talk) 21:20, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

lol Tofutwitch11 (TALK) 21:21, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

BA to SJU

It appeared that the BA to SJU route was changed from "begins March 28" to "resumes March 28". But I decided to leave it alone until we decide for sure if this route is a resumption or not. Snoozlepet (talk) 18:47, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

It is actually begins, what happened ten years ago does not qualify for "resumes", many routes that are "new" have operated in the past, I put the pages up for protection. Tofutwitch11 (TALK) 18:49, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

Adoption

Hello. My name is Belugaboy. You may notice that one of your userboxes has been changed to this:

{{adoptoffer}}

Do not worry. I am here to actually adopt you. I have been on Wikipedia since December, and I have created the Wikipedia Motto of the Day Motto Shop. If you would like somebody else to adopt you, you may change back the userbox and tell me on my talk page.

Thank you for your undoubted concern of the Wikipedia community,
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It seems I have more edits on Wikipedia than you do, and I have been around a bit longer....sorry but I am looking for someone more experianced. Tofutwitch11 (TALK) 18:52, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

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BA LGW-SJU

I have requested to change the level of protection from semi to full. Hopefully, that will help stop the edit warring. Snoozlepet (talk) 20:12, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

Then we cant even edit it. Tofutwitch11 (TALK) 22:14, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

It's raining thanks spam!

  • Please pardon the intrusion. This tin of thanks spam is offered to everyone who commented or !voted (Support, Oppose or Neutral) on my recent RfA. I appreciate the fact that you care enough about the encyclopedia and its community to participate in this forum.
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BA to SJU

Hey - I realise (for whatever reason) it is important to you to have the BA flight to SJU be classified as "begins" instead of "resumes". But there is no consensus on the way forward yet. Please do not make selective changes based on personal preferences like you did to LGW and SJU until the discussion is concluded. Doing so by simply claiming see WP:Airports is, at best, disingenuous. Thanks, Jasepl (talk) 03:54, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

There was no consensus to have it listed as resumes...it was orginaly listed as begins. Tofutwitch11-Chat -How'd I do? 18:50, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

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Oops

I completed your editor review yesterday, but forgot to leave a note here saying I did... oh yeah here's the link. Thanks, VictorianMutant(Talk) 22:22, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

:-) Tofutwitch11-Chat -How'd I do? 22:23, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

Non-Admin Closure of SemEval

Considering a the Meat puppetry and continuos debate i have undid you non admin closure. Sorry The Resident Anthropologist (talk) 21:16, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

The result was certainly keep (13 Keep, 1 Delete, 1 Merge). Further discussion should take place on the article talk page. I am re-closing the discussion. Tofutwitch11-Chat -How'd I do? 21:20, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
Please let an uninvolved admin close this one :-) Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry (talk) 21:23, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
Did you notice the amount 11 of those keeps were made by WP:SPA accounts? Plus we do not use votes either we use policy based arguments. Considering the SPA I would appreciate a Admin closure. The Resident Anthropologist (talk) 21:24, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
I tried....Tofutwitch11-Chat -How'd I do? 21:25, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
No worries it very WP:BOLD of you to do a Non-admin closure. I been around a while I am still am intimidated by preforming the action as a fellow non-admin :-) The Resident Anthropologist (talk) 21:28, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
:-) Tofutwitch11-Chat -How'd I do? 21:33, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

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Violation of non-admin closure

Please do not close controversial AFDs that do not have unanimous keep consensus, per WP:NAC, as you did at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Werner Erhard vs. Columbia Broadcasting System. This is not me as an admin saying this, this is not a warning, this is just a comment to you and a request. The matter is being discussed also at WP:AN. Thank you, -- Cirt (talk) 01:48, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

It seems it was agreed I did nothing wrong and my closing was endorsed by an admin. Thanks. Tofutwitch11-Chat -How'd I do? 01:57, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
  1. You closed a controversial AFD on a controversial topic, as a non-admin closure.
  2. The consensus was not unanimous, there were "delete" comments expressed in the AFD.
  3. You closed the AFD early, before seven days had elapsed for discussion.

Please, not asking as an admin but as a Wikipedia user, please do not this again. Thanks, -- Cirt (talk) 02:02, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

As stated in the dicussion, I closed it Seven minutes early. There were some delete comments but certainly not enough to warrant deletion. Tofutwitch11-Chat -How'd I do? 02:05, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
No, wrong, you closed it over one day early. -- Cirt (talk) 02:07, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
See the discussion on the noticeboard. Tofutwitch11-Chat -How'd I do? 02:09, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

Hi there, I've seen what's going on on AN and I'm really not trying to pile on criticise you for your NACs but I saw Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/James Horley, which you closed "No Consensus. The article will be Kept". It was my impression that biographies of living persons were deleted when there was found to be "no consensus" at the AfD, so I would ask you please revert your close and allow an admin to close instead (that's if my understanding of BLPs and AfDs are correct, if not, please explain how I have it wrong ;) Jenks24 (talk) 03:31, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

There is some controversy over whether no consensus on BLPs default to keep or delete, and there are examples of each that have stood the test at DRV. The WordsmithCommunicate 04:19, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
Ok, just to clarify, I wasn't questioning the decision (I think it should have been kept), but I was just wondering about the wording that was used, as I was under the impression no consensus BLPs defaulted to delete, but thanks for clearing that up Wordsmith. Also, Tofutwitch, I apologise if I sounded a bit harsh in my first comment, I wasn't trying to question your judgment or anything, and I hope you continue to be bold ;) Jenks24 (talk) 05:22, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
Probably will stay away from AFD for a while. Thanks for your support. Tofutwitch11-Chat -How'd I do? 02:29, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
The Purple Star The Purple Star
Please don't let this experience discourage you. You tried to do something good, and got bitten for it. However, boldness is something that is commendable, so here's a Purple Barnstar for your efforts. The WordsmithCommunicate 04:19, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks Tofutwitch11-Chat -How'd I do? 11:11, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

Non admin closure of Kye Allums

I think your nonadmin closure of the Kye Allums afd was well outside of policy. I've re nominated it for this reason. This was way out of line for a premature closure, is hardly an easy delete on the basis of the discussion at that point, and even the more extraordinary that you would do so with a non admin closure. Shadowjams (talk) 09:19, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

From the above it appears it's not the first time you've made a controversial non admin closure. I'd strongly suggest you refrain from any non admin closures until you throw in the hat at WP:RFA. Shadowjams (talk) 09:22, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) (from WP:AN) The correct response, then, is to take it to deletion review. Opening a second AFD on the back of a closed one is strongly discouraged and could be disruptive. I suggest withdrawing it and using the correct process. --Errant [tmorton166] (chat!) 09:48, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

Tofutwitch11: I'm sorry if I cane across too aggressive in renominating your Non Admin Closures. I still disagree with that rationale, but I should have waited for your reply and not have been so quick to act. tmorton: I think you misunderstand AfD policy. Shadowjams (talk) 00:14, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

You did not have much involvement in the discussion before you re-nom'd the articles, which were speedily kept my Mac. Tofutwitch11-Chat -How'd I do? 02:18, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

Mariza Ikonomi

Please reopen Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mariza Ikonomi. The Keep arguments were entirely based on claims in other completely unsourced Wikipedia articles from other language Wikipedias. They should have been discounted and the discussion relisted. Gigs (talk) 14:38, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

Left my comments on the deletion discussion. Tofutwitch11-Chat -How'd I do? 19:55, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

Deletion review for Mariza Ikonomi

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Mariza Ikonomi. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Gigs (talk) 18:09, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

Left my comments. Tofutwitch11-Chat -How'd I do? 19:55, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

Hard hat


 The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar
Wikipedia is a dangerous workplace and so protective headgear is required. Your close of the UCL AFD seemed fine. Thanks for your help and keep up the good work. Colonel Warden (talk) 14:49, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! Tofutwitch11-Chat -How'd I do? 20:06, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

I think Uncle G and others have remarked that you had the misfortune to get caught up in an ongoing dispute having something to do with those "est" chaps (you know, the ones whose idea of improvement seemed to involve spending hours on end barking insults at paying customers). In the real world, that whole affair became very ugly with very nasty accusations and writs flying and whatnot, so it's not too surprising if the temperature concerning such articles is often a little hot.


Still, you did some very straightforward closes and ran into this situation not of your own making. Things seem to have been fairly well resolved and I didn't see anything wrong with your handling of it. In fact, well done!

I hope you are not deterred from carrying out your afd work. One doesn't normally take personal disagreements like this to drama forums such as WP:AN but such occasional drama is a fact of life that we have to live with and it's experience that should stand you in good stead. Tasty monster (=TS ) 02:27, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the support everyone. I will step away from AFD for a bit because now all my actions will be questioned per this happening, and many will be reverted due to the fact that I am not an Admin. I will bring back to AFD in the future when this is not the first thing people think of when I close a discussion. Tofutwitch11-Chat -How'd I do? 02:31, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

AfD closures

I don't know you, nor have I looked at your AfD closes, but I'll say generically, if a non-admin wants to help out closing non-controversial AfDs, I want to help make that work, not dump on you for helping. I just added a suggestion, that in IMO, might solve the problem. I sensed some frustration in your recent posts, so I want to make sure you are not discouraged from helping. Please take a look at my recent suggestion here to see if it might work.--SPhilbrickT 14:51, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

I read the discussion, made a comment and will continue to monitor it. Thanks. Tofutwitch11-Chat -How'd I do? 20:01, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

Message

Hi, 11 ! I've reverted your proposed deletion of the Libetta page. I didn't write the article, but Libetta merits it: in addition to what I said in the edit summary, Libetta is the first - and so far, the only - pianist to have played all the incredibly difficult Godowsky paraphrases on Chopin's études from memory in recital, is also a composer and conductor and has an interesting and challenging discography. The man really seems to be quite out of the ordinary, and is known in the music world as such. Sure, the article could benefit from some improvements, but I hope I have convinced you to reconsider the deletion. Best regards, MUSIKVEREIN (talk) 14:37, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

IT was a BLP with no sources; thus why I put it for deletion. If no sources are added soon; I may go to AFD. Tofutwitch11-Chat -How'd I do? 19:44, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
Hi Tofutwich. The policy is that when considering a BLPPROD, PROD, or AfD, we must consider WP:BEFORE specially points #9, #10, and #11. For any new article that is not a blatant attack, spam, or nonsense, there is always plenty of time to do this. Remember, the most interesting stuff to patrol is at the bottom of the list almost 30 days old. And the hottest tip is: Don't be fooled by the Google results - the first results are always the social networking sites because they are huge and have extremely high page rank; the real stuff that you are looking for often does not start until page three or even four of the results. Bear all this in mind and you'll soon find yourself being able to rescue far more pages than you need to put up for some kind of deletion :) New Page Patrol is extremely important - keep up the good work! --Kudpung (talk) 16:08, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

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Speedy Deletion Help

Hello Tofutwitch11. Thanks for the speedy deletion work you are doing; it's a very important activity! I did want to let you know, though, regarding Demis Courquet Lesaulnier, that current consensus holds that it is bad practice to tag articles for speedy deletion as lacking context (CSD A1) or content (CSD A3) moments after creation, as users may be actively working on the article content. Ten to fifteen minutes is considered a good time to wait before tagging such articles under either of these criteria. Please note that before an appropriate waiting period is over, the articles should not be marked as patrolled, so that the wait does not result in the article escaping review at a later time. Nothing here is meant to apply to any other criterion; attack pages and copyright violations especially should be tagged and deleted immediately. Thanks. JohnCD (talk) 12:41, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

Here is my take on that: If you are publishing an article it should be ready to go. You cannot publish a short, unreferenced, and meaningless article with the thought of slowly improving it. Makes Sense? Tofutwitch11-Chat -How'd I do? 12:47, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
Ideally it should, but we want to encourage new users, we have a bad reputation for being unfriendly to them, and a speedy notice appearing within a minute or two of one's first edit is extremely discouraging. Nothing is lost by waiting ten or fifteen minutes. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 12:53, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
Certainly understood....Tofutwitch11-Chat -How'd I do? 12:54, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
Good. This is relatively a minor quibble, but A3 (no content) would be a better speedy for that article as it was, because A1 is for where it's not clear what the article is about, and in this case it was about this photographer. I have actually de-speedied this one and put notability and primarysources tags on it, but I will watch it and do something if it doesn't improve. There is good advice for speedy taggers at WP:10CSD and WP:A7M. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 13:00, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

propose to delete

hi sorry i have done not correct page i'm a beginner , i would like to know exact what i have to do for make better article thanks Marek10 (talk) 14:59, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

It was a Biography of a living person. All the sources were primary sources. You have since added more, I will remove the tag. Happy Editing. Tofutwitch11-Chat -How'd I do? 19:26, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

proposal to delete 2

i have changed some , you welcome to check it and let me know :) regards Marek10 (talk) 17:21, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

See up there. Tofutwitch11-Chat -How'd I do? 19:26, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

AWB

Hi. When using AWB please make sure you have the "skip genfixes only" option enabled, or manual skip edits such as this. These cosmetic changes are controversial when performed as stand-alone edits, and do not change the actual code output. Please see WP:AWB#Rules of use 3 and 4. Cheers, - Kingpin13 (talk) 18:20, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

Sorry. Tofutwitch11-Chat -How'd I do? 19:53, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

IRC Cloak Request

IRC Cloak Requestf Tofutwitch11-Chat -How'd I do? 01:43, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

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Requested account on the ACC Account Creation InterfaceTofutwitch11-Chat -How'd I do? 20:15, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for applying to access the account creation tool. I have approved your request. You may now access the tool here. Before you do so, please read the tool's guide to familiarize yourself with the process. You may also want to join #wikipedia-en-accounts on irc and the mailing list. Keep in mind that the ACC tool is a powerful program, and misuse may result in your access being suspended by a tool administrator. Don't hesitate to get in touch with me if you have any questions. Thank you for participating in the account creation process. FunPika 15:58, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
Thanks; I've been in IRC for the past few days, since I applied. Tofutwitch11-Chat -How'd I do? 16:47, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

Archibald Strachan

Whatever the merits of this article may be, it clearly states that he died in 1652, so WP:BLPPROD does not apply, as would alsoe be evident from references to e.g. Cromwell and Charles II. Was the message put there by a bot? If so, it clearly needs refinement. PatGallacher (talk) 21:46, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

An unsourced BLP, sorry. I replaced the tag. Tofutwitch11-Chat -How'd I do? 21:47, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

Your restoration of the PROD tag to this article was out of order. Read my previous message properly. PatGallacher (talk) 22:21, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

It was in order. There was a BLP WITHOUGHT at least ONE reliable source. You did not add a reliable source untill after the second time the PROD template was added. The tag specifically stated not to remove it untill you added a source, and you ignored it. You finally added one after the second tag. Read up. See here Tofutwitch11-Chat -How'd I do? 02:07, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
Part of that is my fault as he is dead (had a brain fart, BLP=Biography of LIVING person, woops. You still needed ref's though, and it took me putting the tags to get them...lol. Tofutwitch11-Chat -How'd I do? 02:54, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

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If you have uploaded other unlicensed media, please check whether they're used in any articles or not. You can find a list of "file" pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "File" from the dropdown box. Note that any non-free images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you.

They are my images...I have permission to use them, can I just change the copyright? I can't make you happy can I, If I copied them when I userfyed the article you would yell at me to. Ohh, and Skier Dude make sure to sign your posts with for tidles. (~~~~) as you did not up there. Cheers. Tofutwitch11-Chat -How'd I do? 17:35, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

Other stuff

You seem to be active in many areas of Wikipedia; that's good! Here are some suggestions of other stuff you can help with: Account Creation, which I'm pretty active in, and Articles for Creation. — Waterfox ~talk~ 23:12, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

Ya; I just got permission to use the ACC thingymobober. Tofutwitch11-Chat -How'd I do? 23:22, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks, thats why you never see me doing spell checks. Airtran371 (talk) 16:13, 28 November 2010 (UTC)


Thank you!

Thank you for your support at my RfA last week. I'll do everything I can to live up to your expectations and if you ever need help from a janitor please feel free to drop me a line! I hope you had a happy turkey day as well! PanydThe muffin is not subtle 21:20, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Welcome :D Tofutwitch11-Chat -How'd I do? 21:22, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

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Airtran371

Yes, he is. And he was blocked previous for sockpuppetry. Eagles 24/7 (C) 22:44, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

See your talk page. Tofutwitch11-Chat -How'd I do? 01:16, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

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