User talk:Theresaolojo
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September 2022
[edit]Hello Theresaolojo. The nature of your edits gives the impression you have an undisclosed financial stake in promoting a topic, but you have not complied with Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. Paid advocacy is a category of conflict of interest (COI) editing that involves being compensated by a person, group, company or organization to use Wikipedia to promote their interests. Undisclosed paid advocacy is prohibited by our policies on neutral point of view and what Wikipedia is not, and is an especially serious type of COI; the Wikimedia Foundation regards it as a "black hat" practice akin to black-hat search-engine optimization.
Paid advocates are very strongly discouraged from direct article editing, and should instead propose changes on the talk page of the article in question if an article exists. If the article does not exist, paid advocates are extremely strongly discouraged from attempting to write an article at all. At best, any proposed article creation should be submitted through the articles for creation process, rather than directly.
Regardless, if you are receiving or expect to receive compensation for your edits, broadly construed, you are required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at User:Theresaolojo. The template {{Paid}} can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form: {{paid|user=Theresaolojo|employer=InsertName|client=InsertName}}
. If I am mistaken – you are not being directly or indirectly compensated for your edits – please state that in response to this message. Otherwise, please provide the required disclosure. In either case, do not edit further until you answer this message. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 07:57, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
Hey there,
My account has been blocked for sockpuppetry. Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Theresaolojo
And it says my SPI case is closed and will be archived by an SPI Clerk or check user.
I've sent 2 replies to the queries that were flagged on my account but I don't know if it's been seen. The issues highlighted are:
1. I had multiple accounts: I forgot my first login in details and created a new account to continue the article Draft:Draft:Adeleke Alex-Adedipe. I didn't log out from the secondary account and was unintentionally working on both accounts simultaneously 2. Paid contributions: I'm new to Wikipedia and still getting the hang of making my article "neutral". I'm not being paid for my contribution but I can see how it looks that way. I'm working on getting better at providing proper citations also.
I don't want my account deleted or removed. I want to continue contributing to the platform. I am hoping you can help me with this.
Thank you Theresaolojo (talk) 15:46, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
Blocked for sockpuppetry
[edit]{{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}
. Bbb23 (talk) 13:13, 17 September 2022 (UTC)- Theresaolojo (talk) 14:09, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
- Theresaolojo (talk) 14:23, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
Hey there,
My account has been blocked for sockpuppetry. Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Theresaolojo
And it says my SPI case is closed and will be archived by an SPI Clerk or check user.
I've sent 2 replies to the queries that were flagged on my account but I don't know if it's been seen. The issues highlighted are:
1. I had multiple accounts: I forgot my first login in details and created a new account to continue the article Draft:Draft:Adeleke Alex-Adedipe. I didn't log out from the secondary account and was unintentionally working on both accounts simultaneously 2. Paid contributions: I'm new to Wikipedia and still getting the hand of making my article "neutral". I'm not being paid for my contribution but I can see how it looks that way. I'm working on getting better at providing proper citations also.
I don't want my account deleted or removed. I want to continue contributing to the platform. I am hoping you can help me with this.
Thank you Theresaolojo (talk) 16:34, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
- Please read the instructions in the shaded box above. No-one will take any notice of your appeal without {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}} filled out.
- It does appear to me, however, that your having multiple accounts was not legitimate in the first place.
- I note that you have stated that you are not a paid editor "but can see how it looks that way." Please expand on that, too. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 21:49, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
Upon reading more about Wikipedia's guidelines, I can see how having content that sounds promotional and lacks neutrality of a subject can come across as a paid project. The article does read more like a resume than an entry in an encyclopedia. Before this account was blocked, I worked on rectifying this draft to comply with your guidelines. Theresaolojo (talk) 23:21, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
I admit that I was working on 2 devices with different accounts. I forgot my login details and just created a new account to continue working on the article. I can see the error now. I should have linked the new account to the original when I got the details.
What can I do to have the second account User:QTwrites removed?
Theresaolojo (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
Your reason here Theresaolojo (talk) 23:41, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
Decline reason:
Accounts cannot be deleted, just abandon your other account. Your comments here do not adequately address the paid editing and conflict of interest concerns. Until you do that, there is no pathway forward here. No, we won't give you information so you can better avoid detection in the future. 331dot (talk) 07:02, 18 September 2022 (UTC)
If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.
"It does appear to me, however, that your having multiple accounts was not legitimate in the first place." Please can you explain why you think so? It will help me avoid other red flag practices in the future. Thanks
- If you make another request, replace the words "your reason here" in your new request with your intital statement. 331dot (talk) 07:02, 18 September 2022 (UTC)
as I've said in other replies, I have not received payment to write this article and I do not intend to. I am working on this project to learn a new skill and boost my writing portfolio.
I have made edits to other articles before this block and I have never been paid for those.
I cannot disclose a payment I have not received and don't intend to receive.
"you are not being directly or indirectly compensated for your edits" what do you mean by indirect compensation?
I have my reasons for working on this project that will benefit me but those are not a form compensation, direct or otherwise. (The reasons being learning a new skill, boosting my portfolio, being a better writer, etc) Theresaolojo (talk) 11:00, 18 September 2022 (UTC)}
I have again fixed your request. Please observe how this is done in case you need to make another request. Please also place further comments below this one, for proper discussion flow. 331dot (talk) 14:09, 18 September 2022 (UTC)
Theresaolojo (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
"Accounts cannot be deleted, just abandon your other account." Got it. Thanks.
"Your comments here do not adequately address the paid editing and conflict of interest concerns." How do I address these concerns adequately? I have told you I am not being paid to edit on Wikipedia and I have disclosed other non-compensatory gains I hope to get from working on this (and hopefully future) projects. What more do you want me to show to prove I am not being paid?
I have no personal connection to the subject which is why I agreed to work on the project in the first place.
I am a freelance writer (started a few months ago) and I have been paid for a few (other) projects.
However, I have not nor have I ever been paid for working on Wikipedia. My account is less than a month old!
"No, we won't give you information so you can better avoid detection in the future." Detection for what exactly? This is what I think a red flag practice is — All the pictures I uploaded on Wikimedia commons were declined. Before I uploaded them I understood that if the images had any copyright issues or were against policy, they would be removed. That made sense especially since I got those images from online newspapers and articles and provided as much information on where I got them as I could find. I also disclosed that I didn't know if they had any copyright issues.
I feel that this combined with multiple accounts and non-neutral writing led to your decision. Is this correct? I just want a clearer understanding of your policy and what you require to unblock this account because I've explained the multiple accounts and reiterated more than once that I am not being paid. Thanks
"Accounts cannot be deleted, just abandon your other account." Got it. Thanks.
"Your comments here do not adequately address the paid editing and conflict of interest concerns." How do I address these concerns adequately? I have told you I am not being paid to edit on Wikipedia and I have disclosed other non-compensatory gains I hope to get from working on this (and hopefully future) projects. What more do you want me to show to prove I am not being paid?
I have no personal connection to the subject which is why I agreed to work on the project in the first place.
I am a freelance writer (started a few months ago) and I have been paid for a few (other) projects.
However, I have not nor have I ever been paid for working on Wikipedia. My account is less than a month old!
"No, we won't give you information so you can better avoid detection in the future." Detection for what exactly? This is what I think a red flag practice is — All the pictures I uploaded on Wikimedia commons were declined. Before I uploaded them I understood that if the images had any copyright issues or were against policy, they would be removed. That made sense especially since I got those images from online newspapers and articles and provided as much information on where I got them as I could find. I also disclosed that I didn't know if they had any copyright issues.
I feel that this combined with multiple accounts and non-neutral writing led to your decision. Is this correct? I just want a clearer understanding of your policy and what you require to unblock this account because I've explained the multiple accounts and reiterated more than once that I am not being paid. Thanks Theresaolojo (talk) 18:18, 18 September 2022 (UTC)
Decline reason:
I remain concerned by both the issues raised by FiddleFaddle below, and the language "which is why I agreed to work on the project in the first place" in the unblock request. A convincing unblock request will further include detail regarding what edits you intend to make if unblocked. signed, Rosguill talk 22:52, 29 December 2022 (UTC)
If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.
- Just so that you are clear, Wikimedia Commons is absoutely separate from the English Langage WIkipedia, with separate admins, separate rules, separate processes. You were blocked here because of your illegitimate use of multiple accounts. I reported this at the sockpuppetry investigation, and my honest belief is that the block was based solely upon your behaviour here, on Wikipedia.
- Since you raise the topic, c:User talk:QTwrites has the list of pictures you uploaded to date and which have all been deleted. You will see that I also was the editor who reported them there. What I did not do, since this account had not edited there, was to make any report of sockpuppetry on Commons. Many people make false claims of copyright ownership when uploading pictures found on the internet. I find this astonishing, since they have to answer questions about copyright ownership. Your uploads using your second account answered these questions falsely.
- To me, that set of multiple falsehoods, perpretrated knowingly and clearly against the rules there, suggests that your assurance that you are not paid to edit here may have been given in the same spirit. I am required to assume good faith. It is a policy here. So, assuming good faith, I can tell you that my good faith has been stretched past its elastic limit.
- Because you have raised it previousy I raise it here, under your unblock request, for the answering admin to factor in to their considerations. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 18:35, 18 September 2022 (UTC)
- Theresaolojo, you cannot have more than one open unblock request at a time. I have therefore transformed all but the latest one into comments. Your behavior on this page has been disruptive. If it continues to be so, I will revoke Talk page access.--Bbb23 (talk) 18:43, 18 September 2022 (UTC)
Ok. Thank you for clarifying all that. I did not intentionally answer any questions on Wikimedia falsely. I just gave the information I found online regarding those pictures. And I "checked" the option that I was not sure of copyright violations regarding all the pictures. Most importantly, I do not intend to be disruptive. I just want a better understanding of this platform's policies and an opportunity to do better. Thanks for taking the time to address my concerns. Theresaolojo (talk) 19:42, 18 September 2022 (UTC)
- It's very hard to be unsure of copyright status when the foot of the page you found them on has an explicit copyright statement. Here is an example: https://www.doa-law.com/partners/ 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 20:11, 18 September 2022 (UTC)
I see. So the copyright belongs to "2022 Duale, Ovia & Alex-Adedipe". Wow. I had no idea. Thank you so much. Theresaolojo (talk) 20:22, 18 September 2022 (UTC)
- "Wow. I had no idea." cuts very little ice here. The notice is 100% clear on the page you lifted the picture from. There is no scope for sudden realisation. At the very best your work and research is shoddy. That is the very best. I find your words very difficult to reconcile with your actions. Were I an admin I would find it very hard to grant your unblock request. I would need to be very seriously convinced. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 23:11, 18 September 2022 (UTC)
I understand completely. I should have done better. Thanks Theresaolojo (talk) 01:24, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
Concern regarding Draft:Adeleke Alex-Adedipe
[edit]Hello, Theresaolojo. This is a bot-delivered message letting you know that Draft:Adeleke Alex-Adedipe, a page you created, has not been edited in at least 5 months. Drafts that have not been edited for six months may be deleted, so if you wish to retain the page, please edit it again or request that it be moved to your userspace.
If the page has already been deleted, you can request it be undeleted so you can continue working on it.
Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 20:01, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
Your draft article, Draft:Adeleke Alex-Adedipe
[edit]Hello, Theresaolojo. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Adeleke Alex-Adedipe".
In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. When you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.
Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz Read! Talk! 19:40, 17 April 2023 (UTC)