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Hawaiʻi WikiProject Newsletter - Issue III - June 2008

Aloha. The June 2008 issue of the Hawaiʻi WikiProject newsletter has been published. To change your delivery options or unsubscribe, visit this link. Mahalo nui loa. WikiProject Hawaiʻi 04:11, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

FYI

There is a discussion that may interest you. All the best to you, friend, and good luck on your finals. Viriditas (talk) 05:27, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Hawaiian guide

It's really good and descriptive. Keep up the good work    Juthani1   ^tcs 14:23, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

I just really liked the Hawaiian Guide you have as a subpage. I have visited Hawaii before and could have been useful    Juthani1   ^tcs 19:55, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Food and Drink Newsletter June 2008

WikiProject Food and Drink Newsletter June 2008

--Chef Tanner (talk) 17:05, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Admin Practice

User:RyRy5 created a wiki where you can practice with the admin tools. If you are interested you can find it here Rgoodermote  00:07, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

I granted you sysop rights at Wikiright. Please follow the policies there. Which I will post on your talk page there. Have a good one mate. Rgoodermote  15:44, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Questions

Hello, I'm relatively new to Wikipedia. I just edited the Hawaiian monk seal page and thought the new information (that the seal was officially designated Hawaii's state mammal last week) might warrant it a spot on Wikipedia's home page in the news section. How do I submit it? Also, why did you choose to change your username? Is there a liability in using your real name (as I have)?

Thanks!Shannon.wianecki (talk) 18:43, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Re: The Hawaiian Wikiproject Newsletter

I'm putting some interview questions together now. I'll post them on the news bureau page for you in a few days and notify you here.  :) Viriditas (talk) 18:03, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Not done yet, but I'll be placing the questions here in the next 24 hours. Thanks! Viriditas (talk) 04:17, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

It took a little longer than I hoped, but I've placed the first question for you in the above link. Feel free to be as brief or as long as you like in your reply. The next question will be in reply to your response. Thanks! Viriditas (talk) 11:26, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Since the newsletter is going to be published in less than 12 hours, I've moved the interview to the August issue. Viriditas (talk) 12:35, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the response. I suppose we could do part 1 and 2? :-) FYI...we're going to publish a little late today, as MPerel won't be able to distribute the newsletter until later tonight. Plus, I haven't finished it... :) Viriditas (talk) 22:16, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Hey, if you are up for Part II of the interview for the August newsletter, I'm going to leave you a question here. Viriditas (talk) 08:19, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

Hawaiʻi WikiProject Newsletter - Issue IV - July 2008

Aloha. The July 2008 issue of the Hawaiʻi WikiProject newsletter has been published. To change your delivery options or unsubscribe, visit this link. Mahalo nui loa. WikiProject Hawaiʻi 13:10, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Food and Drink Newsletter July 2008

WikiProject Food and Drink Newsletter July 2008

--Chef Tanner (talk) 15:59, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Image source problem with Image:Karen_Carpenter_-_1980.jpg

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Hawaiʻi WikiProject Newsletter - Issue V - August 2008

Aloha. The August 2008 issue of the Hawaiʻi WikiProject newsletter has been published. To change your delivery options or unsubscribe, visit this link. Mahalo nui loa. WikiProject Hawaiʻi 13:26, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Awards Infobox Issue

Obento, the issue has been raised again about adding awards to the infobox. Some well thought-out ideas got squashed last time and I think there's enough consensus on the issue to effect the change. Would you like to rejoin the conversation? Here --FilmFan69 (talk) 01:03, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Hawaiʻi WikiProject Newsletter - Issue VI - September 2008

Aloha. The September 2008 issue of the Hawaiʻi WikiProject newsletter has been published. To change your delivery options or unsubscribe, visit this link. Mahalo nui loa. WikiProject Hawaiʻi 14:31, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Un-block, please?

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The Obento Musubi (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

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Request reason:

My IP address was blocked because somebody probably used a proxy server and his IP Address became identical to mine. I'd appreciate it if you could unblock me. Thanks!
Check my contributions. They're not vandalism.

Decline reason:

You were not blocked directly, and you left us no information on how to find the IP block/autoblock which is affecting you. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 10:40, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

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Obento, have you been able to solve this unfortunate mistake? If not, let me know, and I'll contact someone for you. Viriditas (talk) 12:53, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Please follow the instructions here if you're still blocked. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 12:59, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

September 2008

Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. Regarding your edit(s) to Coldplay, it is recommended that you use the preview button before you save; this helps you find any errors you have made, and prevents clogging up recent changes and the page history. Thank you. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 21:31, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

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Image:Making_the_Music.png listed for deletion

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Hawaiʻi WikiProject Newsletter - Issue VII - October 2008

Aloha. The October 2008 issue of the Hawaiʻi WikiProject newsletter has been published. To change your delivery options or unsubscribe, visit this link. Mahalo nui loa. WikiProject Hawaiʻi 17:23, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

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Portal:Hawaii

Jonny's AWOL and I need help with the portal. Let me know if you have any free time coming up. What do you have planned for the newsletter? Viriditas (talk) 13:15, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

I haven't planned much. I'll help with the portal. What do you need me to do with the portal? – Obento Musubi (C • G • S) 20:10, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

I need help setting up the random DYK's. There's a list of them on the portal DYK talk page. See Jonny's talk page for more info. If you still need me to explain, drop me a line! :) Viriditas (talk) 21:56, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

Did the DYK you added[1] previously appear on the main page? All of the DYK's on the Portal talk page have appeared on the main page, which is what I'm trying to replace the old ones with here. In other words, only DYK's that have actually appeared on the main page should appear on the Portal. Viriditas (talk) 23:39, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

I'm going to be offline for a bit, but feel free to leave me messages. :) I think your idea for writing about the garbage patch around Hawaiian waters is a good one, but we need to create the appropriate topics first. You could even cobble together a stub from the information on already existing pages. We've got images, so that isn't a problem. So what we are really talking about is creating a new article. Let me know what you want to call it. Viriditas (talk) 23:41, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

BTW, thanks for helping improve the Portal! Viriditas (talk) 23:43, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

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Need your input

...in this discussion. Thanks. Viriditas (talk) 00:07, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Dude, you rock! :) Viriditas (talk) 08:04, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Are you ready to get started on the newsletter? We need a good image of hokulea. Can you pick one? Also, there's that interview we never finished, if it interests you. Part III is on the newsroom talk page. If you have any other ideas, have at it. Viriditas (talk) 14:45, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

When you have time, can you also redesign Wikipedia:WikiProject Hawaii/Outreach/Welcome? Thanks. Viriditas (talk) 09:31, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your help. I'm going to start the newsletter in a few hours. You are welcome to contribute. Viriditas (talk) 05:37, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

I appreciate you nominating Hokulea for GAN, but if Newportm doesn't have the time to work on it (he's been busy) it will probably fail if nobody lends a hand. I've added a checklist here. You are of course, welcome to help bring it to GA status, and I hope that you do now that you have nominated it, but it isn't quite ready yet. If I was the reviewer, I would fail it automatically based on the criteria I've detailed on the temp page link above. Viriditas (talk) 00:27, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

Hehehe....I see you completed the interview! Cool. Viriditas (talk) 00:31, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

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Re: Interview

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November newsletter

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DYK for Soon We'll Be Found

Done. I left some comments at T:TDYK for you. I really want this hook to get to the main page, it's a topic that I personally find fascinating; there's just a little more work we need to do on the article before I can check it off. —Politizer ^talk/_contribs 07:30, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

I just notice another thing you'll need to do...the section on Music and Lyrics will probably be criticized as original research by most reviewers, as you're using the lyrics to try to extrapolate themes. You'll have to find some outside source (such as a review or something) that mentions those themes on its own, and then cite it...we're not allowed to figure out themes on our own.

The other issue is the number of self-published references. For example, ref 7 (for the iTunes thing), as well as refs 1 and 4, are from Sia's website; you'll have to add more references from third-party sources that aren't affiliated with her.

I also left some comments at the article talk page about the Reception section. —Politizer ^talk/_contribs 07:57, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

I just noticed, none of the refs currently in the article (at least the ones I looked at last time) say that the language used in the video is ASL. In fact, given that the singer is Australian, wouldn't it be reasonable to expect that the language used is Auslan or BSL? —Politizer ^talk/_contribs 08:26, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

The official site says that? I didn't see it in there (the page I was looking at is this). Can you show me which page you found it in? It's fine to use her official site to verify the ASL thing; I just want to make sure it's really in there. —Politizer ^talk/_contribs 08:43, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I noticed that Yahoo thread when I was looking for reviews...but unfortunately, we can't use it as a source. (Although at least it lets us know what we're looking for.) —Politizer ^talk/_contribs 08:44, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

I'd say give the BBC video link as the main source, and then as a secondary source (since non-UK people can't watch the BBC video) give http://siamusic.net/news/640 , and in the ref include the quote "...Sia discusses her passion for the beauty of sign language, how she took inspiration from watching uk tv for the soon we'll be found video and her reasoning behind choosing american sign language." —Politizer ^talk/_contribs 08:47, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

I don't know anything about the charts, but Some People Have Real Problems#Sales and chart performance has a ref and a table. —Politizer ^talk/_contribs 01:15, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

I verified it, so unless someone else challenges it then it will go to the main page eventually. It will probably take another 2 or 3 days, as we do the oldest nominations first. The best thing to do is just keep an eye on the page, checking back once every 24 hours or so just in case any other reviewers leave comments. In any case, no one will revoke the nomination without giving you a chance to respond first; when someone does challenge a nomination, they generally leave it up for at least 48 hours (and usually much longer than that) to give the nominator time to respond, and only remove the nomination if it is sitting around for longer than that with no one responding to it. But if you don't hear anything or see any new messages on the nomination, that means eventually it will go into the queue to get to the main page. I don't know when that will happen because, as the person who verified it, I can't also be the person who puts it into the queue. —Politizer ^talk/_contribs 07:39, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

A Humble Thanks

I humbly thank you for the barnstar, I am very, very appreciative. As for the article, I hope to continue copyediting Mediocre (album) through every section, as per your request to the Guild of Copy Editors because, for some unfathomable reason, I enjoy copyediting. Once again, I thank you for the barnstar. Cheers! Scapler (talk) 12:21, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

DYK for Soon We'll Be Found

On 19 November, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Soon We'll Be Found, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

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Mediocre (album)

How far do you think Mediocre (album) is from A class or even from a Good Article nomination? Scapler (talk) 20:55, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

I would love to help bring it to GA if you think there is anything else I can do to improve it. Scapler (talk) 22:29, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

I can certainly do that, I will get to it a little later, however, I am currently writing a report on Cormac McCarthy's novel The Road (highly recommend it by the way, an excellent book) Scapler (talk) 22:46, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Do you have any idea where additional pictures could be found? I looked through the website for the album, because reading things in Spanish is almost as fun as copyediting, but I did not find any images actually relevant to the album itself, no production videos or anything... Scapler (talk) 03:29, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Honolulu importance

Seeing you change of the importance level at Talk:Honolulu, I was quite confused and have undone it for reasons I've posted at the Hawaii project. Could you go there, please help un-confuse me? Nyttend (talk) 04:51, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for replying; I'm sorry if I came across as unhappy or anything, because I was only curious. Nyttend (talk) 14:00, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

Template review

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Thanks for the revert, but it's not the colors causing the problem. Suggest doing a full revert back to the old version until we can fix this using Template:WPHawaii/testcases. Viriditas (talk) 09:46, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

Another issue is the use of uncollapsed "Assessment Comments" as default. Default should always be collapsed. Viriditas (talk) 09:48, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

For an example of the nesting problem, see the tags on Talk:Huna. The project template should have the same width, size, and font as all the other project templates. Viriditas (talk) 09:51, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

Ack! Now all the templates on all the talk pages are screwy unless one does a null edit to reset the template. This is a good example of why we should use the testcase page before making a change to the main article. Don't worry, we'll figure this out. Viriditas (talk)

Hi. For now, it would be best if you just use Template:WPHawaii/sandbox for testing any new template design, Template:WPHawaii/testcases for viewing the changes, and Template:WikiProjectBannerShell/sandbox for viewing banner shell test cases (you need to change the code on that page). We want to avoid making interface changes to the live template unless we test it first. Right now, there are still problems. As a result, I've reverted back. Let's try and work the bugs out in the sandbox/testcases/BannerShell area first. Thanks. Viriditas (talk) 07:55, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

I've just added your most recent changes to Template:WPHawaii/sandbox. Viriditas (talk) 07:58, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

{{Infobox Anthem}} edits

Hi,

Can you shed some light on your recent changes to {{Infobox Anthem}}? You reverted the template from using the {{infobox}} base class to using raw HTML, including a large amount of superfluous styling. This made the template significantly more difficult to comprehend and maintain, so I've reverted it. Was there a particular change to the appearance or logic you hoped to effect? Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 10:17, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

On a related note, there's some redundant text from {{Infobox font}} on articles using it. -- Mentisock 15:43, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

Template:Infobox mineral

Hi, I don't know if you realized it, but I think some of your recent edits to Template:Infobox mineral messed up some formatting; pictures now appear far too large. See, for example, Pyrite and Amethyst. I don't know enough about template syntax to find what you did, but could you please go back and change it? Thanks, FlamingSilmaril (talk) 22:08, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for notifying me about that. I have fixed it. If you see any pages that contain huge images, please simply edit it and save it without making changes. It will fix the problem. After that, you may want to press Ctrl + F5 (on Firefox and IE) to clear your cache. Again, thank you! – Obento Musubi (C • G • S) 00:30, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Just reset to older version as image size problems remained - noted on diamond. Vsmith (talk) 01:16, 27 November 2008 (UTC) After re-reading the above note, I have no clue why you would expect any random user to do that - or why it would work. Please explain and fix any source problems before re-instating your changes as we are here to write an encyclopedia - not experiment with obscure code. Vsmith (talk) 01:22, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Fine, whatever. I personally don't care if you reverted it because I know it worked. I was being bold because I wasn't satisfied with how it looked. If you don't like it or you don't like what I'm saying, then tell me straight up. I can sense from all of your comments (as well as those from the Spanish Wikipedia) that my edits aren't up to par in your opinion. And that's fine. But this is a free encyclopedia. So far, all I've experienced is continuous reverts because my edits caused some problem. And when it got fixed, it got reverted anyway, and people claimed it still didn't work. But, as far as I'm concerned, it worked perfectly. I thought this case would be different. I edited the template, and after I saw nobody reverted it, I assumed that people liked it and thought it looked nice. But now even this template is being reverted. It frustrates me, and it pains me that, when I try to help, people point out the flaws, and instead of fixing it, simply revert it. Good luck, because I will not stop contributing to templates. I am going to keep making templates and keep modifying them. Keep reverting them. Sorry for this long rant. I'm frustrated right now. Happy editing, – Obento Musubi (C • G • S) 05:15, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

I am looking at the versions of pyrite and amethyst (which experienced image problems as mentioned above) with my template, and it still works just fine. The pages have not been updated, and still contain my edits after I fixed the image size. It works fine. So I don't know what you're talking about when you said Diamond was experiencing problems, because it looked perfectly fine to me (I saw diamond before it updated to the new, or really old, template). Please indicate to me exactly what was malfunctioning, and exactly why you reverted my edits. I believe it to be unfair and, frankly, uncalled for. – Obento Musubi (C • G • S) 05:19, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanksgiving

		Happy Thanksgiving!
		Happy Thanksgiving The Obento Musubi! May God bless you and your family on this day! Scapler (talk) 00:21, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Nice Template

I liked your template so much, I think I will send it back to you! So, have you spread the Thanksgiving wikilove to anyone else? (I think I should make a template to give to my wikifriends for every holiday, this one was great fun!) Scapler (talk) 01:37, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Happy Thanksgiving, The Obento Musubi!
As we all sit down at the dinner table and say our thanks today, I would like to give thanks to you for your wonderful contributions and wish you a very happy Thanksgiving. May your turkey and ham satiate you until next year! Kind regards, Scapler (talk)	A traditional Thanksgiving dinner.
To send this message to another friend, please paste {{subst:User:The Obento Musubi/Thanksgiving | ~~~}} on their talk page.

Very nice welcome template, and thank you! I need to get better at making such spiffy boxes, as you can probably tell, my template was just produced after fiddling around with a barnstar template... Scapler (talk) 01:42, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Hah! I sent a Thanksgiving greeting to Viriditas too, just to show him how much better I am than you! (Just kidding, I'm only caught up in the wikilove) Scapler (talk) 02:08, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the card! I came here to wish TOM a Happy Thanksgiving!  :) Viriditas (talk) 10:46, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Template help

Say, how do you make it so your template will display your signature when you type | ~~~~ after it? Scapler (talk) 01:50, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

I mean to add a field in the template you can replace with your signature Scapler (talk) 01:59, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Oh, wait, I figured it out, and I already knew it too. Momentary brain-lapse. Must be the turkey... all I needed to do was add {{{1}}} Scapler (talk) 02:00, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Changes to Infobox U.S. state

Hi - Can you please comment on the thread about the changes at Template talk:Infobox U.S. state? -- Rick Block (talk) 00:42, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

Template:Infobox Hawaiian island

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It's good to get many different perspectives on a topic, including how people view infoboxes. Take a look at this discussion as one example. My guess is that you will be more successful with infobox design if you can try to streamline it as much as possible. Good luck. Viriditas (talk) 11:34, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Ben Smith's Blog

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New Userpage

A new userpage, I see. It looks very sleek, what made you decide to change it? Scapler (talk) 21:42, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

Nope, not rounded, I'm afraid I'm using Safari. Update: Just looked at it in Firefox, the rounded view is even better! Scapler (talk) 21:55, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

Unfortunately, I do not see the roundness in Safari, but this is not a big deal really. Scapler (talk) 23:39, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

I still cannot see the roundness, but on the bright side, the page is starting to come together! Scapler (talk) 00:39, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

GA Review

Though I no editor is prohibited from doing a GA review, I have worked on the article. WP:Reviewing good articles states: "Reviewers should avoid reviewing articles that they have edited significantly", however, I only copyedited it, and I suppose I did not contribute any content to the article, so I am not sure if my contributions should be considered significant. What are your thoughts? Scapler (talk) 22:30, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

Alright, I will put on my reviewing cap and go for it! Scapler (talk) 23:08, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

I am currently reviewing the article. Scapler (talk) 23:39, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

I have finished the review, as you can see there, I found only one problem that I am uncomfortable with. If you can fix this issue, I would have no regrets with passing the article to GA status. Scapler (talk) 23:57, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

In that case, I will certainly pass the article, thank you for removing OR I did not catch, I wasn't aware that you had translated them yourself. Scapler (talk) 00:08, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

No problem, the article is certainly coming together. Scapler (talk) 00:44, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Corner Rounding

Unfortunately, it appears that rounded box edge code cannot be written for viewing in both Firefox and Safari. I was able to write the code so that they appear rounded in Safari here, but when I viewed it in Firefox, then that browser did not display the rounding. Sigh, it is a depressing and impossible cause. Scapler (talk) 01:06, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Userpage Opinions

My userpage is most likely in need of updating, and I was thinking of sending out a message to those users I have interacted with, asking for their suggestions/opinions on my page. I have two things to ask you:

1. Do you think this is a good idea?
2. What do you think of the template below as a means of asking it?

The Obento Musubi, your opinion is appreciated

Hello The Obento Musubi, and first of all, thank you for your time. I am seeking input regarding my userpage. My userpage, and the header for the rest of my pages, reflects my personality, that is to say they are incredibly quirky. While this appeals to me, I would greatly appreciate the opinions of other editors I have interacted with on the site. So, as an editor I have come to respect, I kindly beseech you to place any comments, ideas, or opinions you may have on the subject of my userpage or page navigation header bar on the corresponding talk page. Thank you friend, and cheers! {{{1}}}

Obviously, your opinion is valuable to me, so I will await your reply. Scapler (talk) 02:08, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for your opinion, I just wanted to make sure that it wasn't a completely stupid idea. Scapler (talk) 02:33, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Oh, and P.S. I stole your welcome template and modified it to make the template above, so thank you for that too! Scapler (talk) 02:35, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Barnstar

		The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
		I award you this barnstar for being incredibly helpful and incredibly friendly in the short time I have known you on the wiki. You are definitely one of the nicest people I have met here. Oh, and sorry for the large volume of messaging, you're probably getting tired of me :) Scapler (talk) 02:40, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Big chemistry test, huh? I don't have incredibly fond memories of chemistry class, my teacher talked to palmetto bugs and changed her accent about every other minute. She also spoke Spanish like a complete gringo (then again, I am a gringo, but at least I don't speak español like one). I have really never gotten a good science teacher since eighth grade...so sad. Wikipedia surfing is probably really not helping you study though. LOL. Scapler (talk) 02:53, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Why are you taking chemistry again if you already took it for a semester? Scapler (talk) 02:58, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Uy, miro. En la Florida, las clases de ciencias en el nivel de ocho son más general como tus clases. Lo siento si mi español es no tan bueno como tu español. Estoy solomente en la clase de español III. (Pero me gusta hablar en español y soy el mejor en mi clase, asi...) Scapler (talk) 03:10, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

No soy un miembro. Desafortunadamente, no pienso mi escuela participa en la Sociedad. Así, eres un sophmore si tocarás AP, la verdad? Scapler (talk) 03:21, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Lo siento, pero tengo que irse por la noche. Buena noche, y te miraré mañana, ¿bien?

User Award

I really appreciate the award you err...awarded me, it was very kind of you. I also enjoyed your spiffy award template, keep up the good work! Has anyone else received the prestigious honor of having this award bestowed upon them? Scapler (talk) 02:13, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

Well I feel honored to be the first to receive it! Scapler (talk) 04:41, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

Adminship

I see you have requested admin status before, I have been contemplating a run myself lately. I just wanted to know what the process was like, and maybe what you think my chances may be. Thanks once again for your help friend. Scapler (talk) 02:18, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

Sounds brutal, but I would like to be an admin. Don't know if I could handle the nomination stress though, ugh... :) Scapler (talk) 04:40, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I suppose so. I have always heard that the admin process was brutal and jarring (as well as seen the fact in RfAs), guess I just wanted the opinion of someone who has gone through it. I do not know if I could self-nominate anyway, it would make me feel odd. Scapler (talk) 04:48, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

Mediocre (album)

Congratulations on your GA! I'm glad someone else got to it before I did. Those tables look very nice. Viriditas (talk) 12:01, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

Admin coaching

I know the RfA process is brutal, but I am thinking of at least applying for an admin coach...thoughts? Scapler (talk) 02:48, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

What do you think?

I am drawing up a template for the solo career of Neal Morse, I don't know if you know him, but I wanted your opinion on the first draft. Thanks! Scapler (talk) 02:06, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

I really do feel sort of bad, if I ever ask one too many questions or send one too many messages, do not hesitate to tell me, ok? Scapler (talk) 03:10, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

My Userpage

The Obento Musubi, your opinion is appreciated

Hello The Obento Musubi, and first of all, thank you for your time. I am seeking input regarding my userpage. My userpage, and the header for the rest of my pages, reflects my personality, that is to say they are incredibly quirky. While this appeals to me, I would greatly appreciate the opinions of other editors I have interacted with on the site. So, as an editor I have come to respect, I kindly beseech you to place any comments, ideas, or opinions you may have on the subject of my userpage or page navigation header bar on the corresponding talk page. Thank you friend, and cheers! Scapler (talk) 17:51, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

Replaceable fair use Image:Karen Carpenter.jpg

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File:Karen Carpenter.jpg listed for deletion

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La Wikipedia en español

Hey, I have an account over at the Spanish Wikipedia, but have used it mainly for translating articles to English. I recently transferred over an article when someone posted it here (in Spanish). So, I put the article on the correct project. Unfortunately, I believe I named it incorrectly, and since I am not autoconfirmed (less than fifty edits) there, I cannot move the article to a new name. So, as a favor, could you go to the Colibrí de Scintillant article and rename it Colibrí Scintillant? You have my profuse thanks! Scapler (talk) 21:24, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Wow, that sucks, what jerks. Your edits to templates have been nothing but beneficial here. Scapler (talk) 11:45, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Well, someone else seems to have handled it, anyway. Thanks though, hope you can edit there again soon. Scapler (talk) 20:24, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Plate lunch

Any progress on the plate lunch front? Viriditas (talk) 10:32, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

Heh, thanks for the quick reply. Should I place inactive on the project page? :) Viriditas (talk) 10:36, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

I meant the project, silly. Nobody seems to be doing anything at all. Viriditas (talk) 10:50, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

I'm still here! So, I'm not marking it as inactive, just yet. :) But, I do have a request for you: See if you can find additional Hawaii-related information about Jean-François de Galaup, comte de La Pérouse and add it to the English wiki. Thanks! Viriditas (talk) 10:57, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

Re: metadata script

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Merry Christmas!

		Merry Christmas!
		Have yourself a Merry little Christmas The Obento Musubi! - Scapler (talk) 21:14, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Happy Holidays

Mele Kalikimaka and Happy New Year! Viriditas (talk) 07:03, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

No worries. You can use my photo if you want. I'm not sure how to get the thumbnail to display the text clearly, as the image itself is fine. Help files say that it shouldn't be uploaded as progressive to avoid this problem, and I didn't do that, but apparently something went wrong. If you have any ideas, let me know and I'll upload a better version. Viriditas (talk) 07:13, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

I like the colors in your new sig. Very pleasing to the eye! :) Viriditas (talk) 07:17, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

French Wikipedia

Good work. Will you be leading the translation effort (English > French) or will you be recruiting others? Viriditas (talk) 10:07, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

BTW, if you have some time, I have a list of tasks that need completing on the project page. Mostly simple page redesign that will take you less than a minute. I only request your assistance because I know you enjoy it! :) No hurry on this, so get back to me at your convenience. Viriditas (talk) 10:10, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

Cool. Basically, my main concern is that the WP:HAWAII main page has some duplication and appears mostly on the left side, unlike a balanced layout that you see over at Wikipedia:WikiProject Olympics, for example. Also, the current members box on the right duplicates the one on the left, and the one on the right doesn't let you join, so it should be removed. I guess it would be nice to take the left column and balance it out on the right, because in Firefox, it appears as a huge column on the left with a giant blank space on the right. Viriditas (talk) 10:39, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

File:Portuguese.png listed for deletion

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Hawai'i religion

Well said, Obento Musubi (the mysteriously named)! Awien (talk) 23:27, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

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Infobox update

Hmm, it looks like using infoboxes might be a good thing after all. Take a look at this discussion. Viriditas (talk) 01:00, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Good point, but I'm talking about something entirely different. However, I think your point is important enough to address, and I plan on doing that asap on the project page. Viriditas (talk) 12:18, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Changing of Infoboxes

Could you please start a discussion at WT:FRAT before making drastic changes in a project's infoboxes? Previously, we have had an issue of people changing infoboxes. Thus, I had to revert your changes. You can revert them back if consensus is formed. Thanks for your efforts. miranda 08:03, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

{{infobox font}} edits

Hi,

As previously raised with you, there is no need to arbitrarily override the defaults provided by {{infobox}}. If you disagree with these defaults, please raise this on the template talk:infobox page. For now, I have reverted your overriding of the font size in {{infobox font}}, and raised the issue on the talk page. Please add any comments there. Thanks. Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 10:16, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Haumea

Hi,

I reverted your changes to Haumea, because the IPA you used was undefined. Do you have evidence for your pronunciation? kwami (talk) 21:35, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

Merge?

Don't you think it makes sense to merge House Bill 444 into Recognition of same-sex unions in Hawaii? The Bill article has some good other sources, but the content is pretty much the same. Best wishes Hekerui (talk) 21:48, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

If I may jump in here, I don't think there is any hurry to merge if the original author (OM) is interested in spending some time expanding the HB444 article. However, if OM isn't interested in expanding the article past the stub stage, then it could be merged into the parent article, however both articles need significant expansion so it could go either way. Viriditas (talk) 23:12, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

I am interested in expanding it. I'm doing research on newspaper articles and websites I can incorporate into the article. Cheers, obentomusubi 23:20, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

I just sent you an e-mail. Viriditas (talk) 23:58, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

Please keep me updated on this topic. If you feel like starting the March newsletter and writing a column about this topic, I will gladly help contribute. Viriditas (talk) 09:31, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

Thank you. I just don't exactly have time at this moment, and during the day, I can't check my e-mail. I'd say the best time to e-mail me would be between 6 and 10 at night. :) obentomusubi 16:47, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

BTW, don't forget about the time constraints of the DYK; I can submit it for you if you like, but time is running out. Viriditas (talk) 07:01, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

Oh! I totally forgot about that! Yes, that would be great, thanks. obentomusubi 07:05, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

No problem. I'm stepping out for a bit, but if you have any idea what the DYK should focus on, let me know. Plus, it has to meet the requirements. Viriditas (talk) 07:10, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

I would like your help with expansion on the page, since you must be more familiar with the sources than I am. I would like the DYK to say something like:

• ... that Hawaii House Bill 444 would allow civil unions in the state of Hawaii? obentomusubi 07:15, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

I submitted the DYK you created here, but please keep an eye on the page for any questions by the reviewers. Also, you may want to consider adding an alternate hook if you have the time. Thanks. Viriditas (talk) 03:41, 1 March 2009 (UTC)