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Your submission at Articles for creation: Ali Ashraf (academic) (December 2)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Theroadislong was:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

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Theroadislong (talk) 13:49, 2 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, TheAutumnal! Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Theroadislong (talk) 13:49, 2 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, the subject was vice-chancellor of Jamia Millia Islamia. He meets the subjective criteria of notability. TheAutumnal (talk) 13:52, 2 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Ali Ashraf (academic) (December 2)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Zoglophie was:

Needs more sources and content for this personality.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Ali Ashraf (academic) and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
If you do not edit your draft in the next 6 months, it will be considered abandoned and may be deleted.
If you need any assistance, or have experienced any untoward behavior associated with this submission, you can ask for help at the Articles for creation help desk, on the reviewer's talk page or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help from experienced editors.

zoglophie^•talk• 14:04, 2 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Zoglophie, I'm sorry but I find this behaviour ridiculous. The person was a vice-chancellor of Jamia Millia Islamia and passes the subjective criteria of notability set for academicians. Your call for sources is an improvement call. The article could be improved whilst in mainspace. TheAutumnal (talk) 14:09, 2 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You should improve the article as already been directed by another reviewer or we cannot accept it in encyclopaedia. zoglophie^•talk• 14:15, 2 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Zoglophie, no, it does not happen this way. At the AfC, we accept drafts if they satisfy Wikipedia's notability criteria - and this article clearly does. Articles can be tagged for improvements but merely declining a draft which doesn't happen to have a lot of resources and telling article creators that such articles won't be accepted is not just unethical of this encyclopedia, but also a wrong interpretation of the notability criterias. Prof Ali Ashraf meets WP:NACADEMIC#6 criteria with him being a vice-chancellor of Jamia Millia Islamia, one of the most-prominent universities in India. I have approved the draft. ─ The Aafī (talk) 14:43, 2 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Citations were also not properly filled. Maybe they should have read WP:YFA before jumping into submitting an article. zoglophie^•talk• 14:51, 2 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You are right but new users expect a more friendly behaviour from reviewers. It does not take more than to minute to fix a malformed citation. It is not good to straightaway decline a which has a sourced-claim of significance, which demonstrates notability. We should try to help new editors understand the ecosystem in a friendly manner. Best regards, ─ The Aafī (talk) 15:02, 2 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Ali Ashraf (academic) has been accepted

Ali Ashraf (academic), which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.

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─ The Aafī (talk) 14:25, 2 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]