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Edit warring

Your recent editing history shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you get reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the article's talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See BRD for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

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Notice that if you continue with POV edits, you will likely be reported at a noticeboard. Thus i suggest you change your approach, and stop edit warring vs consensus. Your edits are disruptive.prokaryotes (talk) 21:09, 27 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

September 2015

It appears that you have been canvassing—leaving messages on a biased choice of users' talk pages to notify them of an ongoing community decision, debate, or vote. While friendly notices are allowed, they should be limited and nonpartisan in distribution and should reflect a neutral point of view. Please do not post notices which are indiscriminately cross-posted, which espouse a certain point of view or side of a debate, or which are selectively sent only to those who are believed to hold the same opinion as you. Remember to respect Wikipedia's principle of consensus-building by allowing decisions to reflect the prevailing opinion among the community at large. Thank you. NeilN ^{talk to me} 02:40, 28 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Many thanks

Dear Terradactyl, any thanks for your work in ESS and Gaia Science, like Lovelock himself, I think it has long ago left being a mere hypothesis. I was one of the earlier contributors to both articles. Warm regards, John D. Croft (talk) 10:46, 1 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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ESS dispute resolution

Duly noted. Summary posted. Cheers, --PLUMBAGO 06:53, 3 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

re:Your comment on DR/N under "Fourth statements by Editors"

In regards to your comment here, let me explain some things and ask some questions since this is highly disruptive to the resolution process and is not helping your cause of adding/re-adding the contested material against the local consensus.
Point, the First: "Impartiality of the RfC"

Have you actually read the WP:RfC policy page?

If you have, then you should have seen (in the lead) the statement:

"Requests for comment (RfC) is an informal process for requesting outside input concerning disputes, policies, guidelines or article content. It uses a system of centralized noticeboards and random, bot-delivered invitations to advertise discussions to uninvolved editors." ^{(emphasis added)}

So, by obvious declaration, an RfC is the closest thing that you will get to "an impartial process" besides DR/N, Formal Mediation, or ArbCom. However, ArbCom will also take into account the behaviours of editors which can adversely affect the filing party per WP:BOOMERANG.

Point, the Second: "Recap of the dispute"

Robert McClenon is not dedicating 100% of his time to this dispute, but is spread out over a few large and important pages at the moment. He is a human and hence is likely to make mistakes and/or not read through every word of the statements/comments. You need to assume some good faith and not jump to the conclusion that Rob is trying to act against you; if anything, Rob is trying to help you out of an otherwise untenable position.

Point, the Third: "RfC Wording"

This is my, and Rob's, biggest area of concern with you. You seem to have assumed that Rob will be writing the RfC statement when he has specifically asked you (as the filing party and the proponent) to propose a draft statement. So your statement below ^{(in the box)} is actually making a very large assumption, a false assumption, though you have finally given Rob a draft statement to work with.

Stanza 6 → 10 of comment

"But it would appear from his 'recap' that the mediator probably intends to have this RfC read something like:
“Do you agree the an editor should add a lengthy section to the Earth system science entry about the Gaia hypothesis against local consensus?”
And, lo and behold, every single editor polled would likely say – surprise, surprise! – no! So would I – if I were asked and knew nothing more about it.
But an adequate RfC would read something like this:

“Do you think that in the Earth system science (ESS) article a longstanding section concerning the relationship of ESS to Gaia theory, as well as longstanding material about the Amsterdam Declaration on Global Change, should be reinstated in a new version (of the same length as prior) citing sources discussing the viewpoint that ESS and Gaia theory are synonymous, alongside other viewpoints?”

Point, the Fourth: "Binding nature of RfC"

An RfC is binding in the same way that a DR/N closure result is binding. It is an agreement between editors on how to proceed, via consensus. However, DR/N cases are typically between small groups of editors and so, when a new editor comes along, the said DR/N case is rarely considered as it was between the involved editors and content change.

An RfC on the other hand is about the content, and never about editors. Hence an RfC is considered binding to the article page, rather than the content dispute between the previous editors.

So, to put it into a bit of context:

Editors, A, B, Y and Z are in a dispute over content. They go to DR/N and it gets resolved as "no addition". That result is binding to the content disputed and the editors involved.

Editors M and N come along after the DR/N case. They don't know about the DR/N case that involved A, B, Y and Z; however they make a change to the article that is related to the previous content dispute. The editors decide to use an RfC to determine a better way forward ... RfC starts and finishes ... RfC consensus is to "accept the changes" made by Editors M and N by 30 to 6, despite the previous DR/N case.

The RfC consensus is considered "community consensus", and is seen as "more binding" than a DR/N case.

Does that help make this clearer about the "binding result"?

Point, the Fifth and Last: "Behaviour of Mediator (Robert McClenon)"

If you feel than a Mediator is being biased or not acting in good faith, then you can discuss having a new mediator take over on the DR/N talk page. Rob has already made this suggestion to you after your comment was posted, but this to ensure you know how to ask instead of being uncivil and commenting on Rob's alleged bias/unhelpfulness.

If you have concerns, enquires or general questions about this post; please use {{u|Drcrazy102}} in your reply message. If you have questions about thing unrelated to this post or DR/N, feel free to drop me a message on my talkpage. Cheers, Drcrazy102 (talk) 02:04, 10 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Also, see Wikipedia:Consensus#Consensus_can_change and Wikipedia:Binding_content_discussions help clarify some of your other concerns. Drcrazy102 (talk) 02:09, 10 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Creating a DRAFT for the RfC mentioned on the recent DR/N case

I am creating a page on my userspace's sandbox to discuss the creation of an RfC and its wording to settle the dispute filed at the DR/N here, since there seemed to be 3 out 4 (5?) editors that agreed to using an RfC to settle the contested changes. The draft page can be found at User:Drcrazy102/sandbox/Draft_RfC_for_Earth_System_Science. Please do not comment on the RfC on this talkpage, comment on the Discussion section on the Sandbox page. Cheers, Drcrazy102 (talk) 03:40, 11 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Terradactyl, your presence on the above discussion would be greatly appreciated and beneficial. Cheers, Drcrazy102 (talk) 12:52, 13 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

ArbCom elections are now open!

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ArbCom Elections 2016: Voting now open!

Hello, Terradactyl. Voting in the 2016 Arbitration Committee elections is open from Monday, 00:00, 21 November through Sunday, 23:59, 4 December to all unblocked users who have registered an account before Wednesday, 00:00, 28 October 2016 and have made at least 150 mainspace edits before Sunday, 00:00, 1 November 2016.

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