User talk:Tdugan9151
Hello Patrick, using Wikipidia is a lot of fun, and hopefully will change the way people Google history.
I am interested in articles that concern the relationships between indigenous peoples, local, and national governments.
My primary of interest is the Kurdish population and their emigration out of the Middle East, particularly North America specifically in Nashville
Some Articles I have been Interested in reviewing more are the following;
- The Menominee
- Apache (particularly with respect to the linguistic work Keith Basso has done with them)
- Athapaksan (hunting, language, and cultural conceptions of knowledge)
- Bighorn Medicine Wheel: What constitutes a historical site? How to reconcile liberal and cultural theories? (Anthropological Knowledge and Native American Cultural Practice in the Liberal Polity [James P. Boggs]
- The Exon Valdez Oil spill of 1989 and its effects on the Native population of the area; How were they treated, what legal rights were involved with the spill, what representation did they receive?
Hey! The draft of my article will be here on my sandbox: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Deitkm/sandbox until I decide to make it a real article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Deitkm (talk • contribs) 13:21, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
Kurdish American, a suggestion
[edit]Hi there. I think the idea of having national subgroups explained is a good one, but since this is an article on Kurdish Americans and not Kurds in general, each section must lead with information with several sentences on their presence in the United States. For example (and completely making up the facts here:)
- Iraqi Kurds
- Kurds inhabit the northern region in Iraq and have faced numerous challenges, particularly under the Ba'athist government. Few Iraqi Kurds came to the United States until 1970. A second major wave of immigration took place in the 1990s because of … Iraqi Kurds living in America predominantly speak the XX language and mostly came from the area around Kirkuk. Today, they are widely dispersed, but several important communities of Iraqi Kurdish Americans are Nashville and the greater Washington, DC area.
- Iraqi Kurds did X during the wars with Iraq from 1990 to 2010. Since the establishment of the Kurdish Regional Authority in 200X, many economic ties have been built between the immigrant community and Kurds living in northern Iraq. etc. etc.
Again, I have no idea about the specifics, but the above represents a section that belongs on Kurdish American rather than Kurds.--Carwil (talk) 14:37, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
Suggestion
I can tell you put a lot of work into conducting research about the different groups of Kurds, however since the focus of this page is "American Kurds" I think you spend to much time talking about other Kurdish sub-groups. I suggest that you keep these sections on the other Kurdish sub-groups but that you also explain how the different backgrounds and cultures of Iranian/Turkish/Syrian Kurds has contributed to their lifestyle in America. If I was a reading this article for information I would want to know if any differences exist among American Kurds and if so, which of those differences are the result of different places of origin. An additional suggestion I would have for you is to create a sub-section on how the American public feels towards American Kurds. Do American Kurds face discrimination and oppression, or are they viewed as integrated members of American society? I think you did a very nice job on the migration section. I liked how you organized this section by the different waves that occurred and explained why these waves of Kurdish migration were taking place. Overall, I think this will be a great contribution to Wikipedia! Meganepatton (talk) 21:49, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
Other suggestions
[edit]Hey Pat! Overall, your article is a really great start! - The structure of your article could be more clear. It is confusing to get very specific information about the Kurdish population in the US and then move into more general information. You should structure it so that you get a general overview and then focus in on more specific details. - You should bold "American Kurdish" in the first sentence of your article. Also, I'm a bit confused about the use of "American" in your article. Do you mean North American, Central American, South American, or what? If you mean that they are living in the United States, you should consider making that more explicit. Additionally, it might be useful to say, "the majority of Kurdish Americans are recent migrants from Iraq, Iran, Turkey, and Syria. You also might consider explicitly explaining what Kurdistan means. - I like that you included a section explaining the complications with defining "Kurdish" and went on to outline the different things that could mean. I agree with Professor Bjork-James and Megan in that it is a bit unclear how the different groups of Kurds (Iraqi, Iranian, Turkish, and Syrian) experience their identity as a Kurd and also as an American. I think it would be helpful to add a sentence or two at the end of each sub-section about the different groups of Kurds that explains this relationship. - You need a citation after second sentence (ends with "12th century"), the fourth sentence (ends with "alongside Arabic"), and the last two full sentences under the Kurdish Language section. The section also ends mid-sentence. I'm not sure if that is a mistake or if you are still adding content. - You explain more about the emigration from Kurdistan to the US in the "History of Emigration" section. I think this information should be made clear earlier in the article. You should also add a sentence or two explaining the key points of each treaty that you mention. You are missing a lot of citations in this section. - The Demography section is the most informative, well written, and well cited section in your article so far. I like that you give a basic overview and explain the interesting fact that Nashville has a very large Kurdish population. You should explain why Nashville has a large Kurdish population. - You should add citations for each of the Kurdish organizations you list. - I think your references are a little off. They start re-numbering half-way through. You should fix this.
Great job! I look forward to reviewing your article again when it is closer to being finished! Best, Glasshn (talk) 23:19, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
Suggestions for your page
[edit]Hi Patrick,
I can see you have done a lot of work on this page. However, I still see a few things you could improve. I know that it is due tonight, so if you want to make the edits, we will still give you credit if you do it in the next 72 hours (by April 16). I think you have a great page about Kurdish people. However, the page is "Kurdish American," so we need more about Kurds in the US. Here are some suggestions, chose which ones (if any) make sense for you to cover based on available sources:
-talk more about US reception of Kurds. Have US Americans welcomed Kurds or discriminated against them? Why? -Why have Kurds chosen to settle in certain cities such as Nashville? Are there programs specifically for Kurdish immigrants in these cities? -What do Kurdish people do in the US? How have they brought religious practices and institutions with them? What types of impacts have they had on local communities? Do they open restaurants, grocery stores etc? -How do Kurds fit in with other immigrants from the same region? -Can you tell us more about a few of the Kurdish organizations you mention?
You certainly do not need to cover all of these points. But we would love to see more of the "American" part of this article. Thanks for all your hard work.Banksel (talk) 20:26, 13 April 2015 (UTC)