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Marc Summers

I deleted the line you added about his being "rumored" to be the next host of The Price is Right. I don't even think there are any real rumors about Bob's successor, not to mention actual decisions. If you have a citation from something substantial, feel free to revert me. Otherwise, please don't add speculative stuff like this. SFT | Talk 08:16, 2 February 2006 (UTC)


I removed the text you added to Gillig as it seems to be taken from http://www.geocities.com/gilligcoaches/GilligHistory.html. Please see Wikipedia:Spotting possible copyright violations. WideArc 21:52, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

'WWE RAW'

It's just that it's not notable enought to be mentioned because as you even admitted, RAW has been in other arenas that hosted RAW. It's also already noted on the Trump Plaza article. TJ Spyke 05:39, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Articles on Wikipedia are supposed to be written with the future in mind. In a week or two it won't matter that RAW was at the Trump Plaza tonight. TJ Spyke 05:49, 29 August 2006 (UTC)


Dan Lewis - KOMO news anchor

(Srosenow 98 wrote to Bezapt): I can partly see where you're coming from, but as a former reporter myself (some freelance work for KOMO TV's weather department in the late '90s), I can firmly say that the use of "news presenter" is not a term used in the United States. I think that if you're going to write an article about an American journalist, you should refer to them as they would be in American terms.... *snip*... Srosenow 98 05:55, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Hi Srosenow 98, My reasons for editing your edit were twofold:

  1. the actual article title for the subject is News presenter, so I chose that as a middle ground between my preferred term and yours, since it is consistent with the Wikipedia article's title; and
  2. to make Lewis's job more readily recognisable to an international readership. In many countries outside the USA, "anchor" will usually refer to an item used to help secure a boat (or other object) in place. To my Commonwealth English mind, describing a person as a heavy object seems vaguely impolite (particularly with obesity being such a hot topic these days!) and I had to shift mental gears to recall I've occasionally heard the word used in the context of "newsreader" in some news broadcasts originating from the US.

I respect your point that the article is about a US person & therefore a US-term would be reasonable.. hey, I use the same justification when Americanisms are applied to articles on British Commonwealth concepts which possess their own nomenclature. Given your close familiarity with local practice not only in the US but at KOMO, if you want to revert my edit, then I will politely stand back! Best regards, Bezapt 11:20, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

WWE RAW TitanTron

"Referenced or not". Incorrect. All material on Wikipedia that states claims such as " over six stories high ", "platform is over fifteen feet high alone", "entire setup is over 100 feet in width", and "roughly five by eight feet", must be referenced. If this information that you contributed was based on your own personal assumptions then it has no place on Wikipedia. Please see the official Wikipedia policy, Wikipedia:No original research. If reliable sources can be provided that confirm the measurements of the stage, then the information can be added. I hope this clears up any misunderstandings. -- bulletproof 3:16 16:22, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

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If you add the images to an article as a link, they do not show up on the image page as being linked. The section on each image page at the bottom shows where it is linked as an actual image rather then just a link.

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Have a look at the Matt image page where I did this last time. You should add this non orphan template and remove the deletion template to the two news images. If you have any other questions, please let me know.--Gay Cdn (talk) (Contr.) 16:49, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

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December 2007 Pacific Northwest storms

Hey, thanks for your comments on the 12/07 PNW storm talk page. It sounds like you have some good info on the storms that would contribute greatly to the article, so I would urge you to go ahead and just start adding the info, with reliable sources of course, on the snow and other parts of the storm you describe. Let me know if you need help. Thanks!! --Esprqii (talk) 19:46, 17 December 2007 (UTC)


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The [citation needed] tag in re: the Phantom's design

Hi Steven,
Short of an actual company rep from Gillig, you are probably the person whom I would most rely on for Gillig information (I've been following your website for years), but I wonder if you could provide a citation for the statement that the Phantom is based on their old Transit Coach school bus. Having grown up riding on Gillig (and Crown) school buses, and having once been a bus driver of Gillig Phantoms, I can attest to the fact that the two are very different from a design standpoint (and not just appearances, I'm talking frame, body, powertrain, etc). Also, I don't know if this part was added by you or another editor (it was done some time ago I believe), but do you by any chance happen to have any sources for the statements about how Gillig was helped out with tax subsidies during the early production of the Phantom? I only ask because you are just about the only resource that I know of for such information. Spicoli (talk) 09:00, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Gillig Transit Coach model numbers

Hello,
Are you sure that the 590, 534, C-160, C-180, and C-190 all had a "D" at the end of the model numbers? I thought that the "D" was only added to the later models (after the C-series buses) that were equipped with diesel engines. Also, did the 555-D really have the "VTF" prefix? I thought that the bus model itself just included the number. Spicoli (talk) 06:44, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

To your knowledge, did the "D" ever make it into their product catalog or promotional materials for any of those models? I'm wondering if the D was just added when the buses were re-engined with a diesel, or perhaps if they were specially ordered with a diesel. Also, do you know anything about the "-13" and other similar designations that were sometimes found at the end of the model numbers? It's too bad that Gillig has published so little of their own history. Spicoli (talk) 17:50, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
So that's what the D stands for, very interesting. I didn't know that the bus industry started using the A-D designators that early on. So then what does the "T" stand for on some models? At first I thought that the T was for tandem axle, but I noticed on one of the sales brochures on your website that they had a "DT" bus without the tandem axle. Is it perhaps a designator for a turbocharged engine?
With regard to the -13, -16, etc., do you think that we should add those as specific bus models in the table on the Transit Coach page? I know that when I created the page for the GM "old-look" transit bus I included all of the different bus models, and while it made for a very long list I think that it's still somewhat useful. Although, on the other hand, I didn't do the same when I created the Flxible New Look bus page, but in that case I think it was just because I was too lazy to collate all of the production data that I found here.
That's absolutely disgusting that Gillig destroyed all of their historic records! I mean, come on, I can't image it was taking up all that much space in their huge factory. They probably could have even donated it to some library or museum that would have held on to it for them. Wow. Well, now more than ever, I'll keep an eye out for old Gillig stuff and if I ever happen to procure any myself, I'll scan it and send it to you for your website. Spicoli (talk) 22:26, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

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You can't just copy and paste text from other websites. That is call a violation of a copyright

See: Wikipedia:Copyvio

What does this say:

"GilligCoaches.NET, the Glass Block logo pattern, and all designs and content contained herein are Copyright (C) 2001 - 2006 Steven A. Rosenow, GTCA Productions, Incorporated and its contributors. All Rights reserved. The Gillig Logo, design, and all related indicia are registered trademarks of the Gillig Corporation."

~ WikiDon (talk) 05:26, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

1) Srosenow 98 (talk · contribs) added the material with this edit on 13:19, 15 December 2007. That material was copied and pasted from GilligCoaches.net. That is um, you.
2) Just saying that you are "x" doesn't make it so. I am Bill Gates and own www.microsoft.com. I do I know that is who you are? You could be Scoter Libby, George Bush, Charles Manson. What if I say that I run the Getty Images site and you can download any images there and use them for what ever you like?
Just follow proper procedure. Leaving messages on my talk page or the Kenworth talk page is not what needs to be done. If you just follow the rules there will be no problem. ~ WikiDon (talk) 09:32, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
Please follow this: Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials
Thanks, ~ WikiDon (talk) 09:39, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
One simple way to grant permission to copy material already on line is to put that permission explicitly on the site where that material is posted. This is commonly known as a "copyleft" notice. This notice must state that your site (or portions of your site) are licensed under the GFDL or are in the public domain. Where is this on your site? ~ WikiDon (talk) 09:48, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
This: I've authored a condensed and derivative form of this for the Kenworth article on Wikipedia. is not GFDL or are in the public domain.
Example 1: This is GFDL or are in the public domain > http://planetmath.org/?op=license http://aux.planetmath.org/fdl/fdl.txt
Example 2: "Content is available under GNU Free Documentation License 1.2." With a link to http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/fdl.html
Example 3: "Copyright Notice ~ This page is Copyright ©2001--2006 Chris Spackman ~ Permission is granted to copy, distribute and/or modify this document under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License, Version 1.1 or any later version published by the Free Software Foundation; with no Invariant Sections, with no Front-Cover Texts, and with no Back-Cover Texts. A copy of the license is included in the section entitled ``GNU Free Documentation License.
Of course you already knew that since you already did it. ~ WikiDon (talk) 10:12, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Headers

Avoid restating or directly referring to the topic or to wording on a higher level in the hierarchy (Early life, not His early life).
Do not link items in the title or headers.

~ WikiDon (talk) 05:26, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

3) With that same edit on 13:19, 15 December 2007, you added this: :"==Kenworth's role in the transit and school bus industry==" with links in headers and "restating or directly referring to the topic".
With this one (10:24, 25 January 2008), you did :"==Kenworth's early years==".

References

Learn how to site sources correctly.

Would you try to drive a truck down the freeway if you had never been in one?

~ WikiDon (talk) 05:26, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

4)With this one (10:24, 25 January 2008), you did: "[:http://www.kenworth.com/6100_pre_mor.asp?file=2182]. and <:ref>Great Trucks</ref>"
Is that anyway to format a reference?

~ WikiDon (talk) 08:36, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Clarification of copy permission assertion

Hi. I am investigating copyright problems listed at WP:CP and came upon the entry for Kenworth on June 17th. I see this was also listed on June 19th, so I have struck out the earlier notice as redundant. It looks like the matter is a bit complex and that you have been frustrated in your efforts to deal with it.

There are two steps you might take to release material you've authored and published elsewhere on Wikipedia. First, you may place a notice somewhere on the website releasing this material under GFDL or into public domain or you may write from an address associated with the website to permissions-en at wikimedia dot org (or sent a postal letter to the Wikimedia Foundation) releasing this material under GFDL. These messages must explicitly permit use under the GFDL. This is important, as release of material under GFDL allows anyone to modify or reuse this material, commercially or otherwise.

I note that your website does verify that you have authored a derivative version on Wikipedia, but it does not confirm that reuse of the material is permitted. It ought to be sufficient to note there that the material on Wikipedia is fully released by GFDL. To be on the safe side, I would recommend including a permanent link to the point where you introduced the material. Of course, you could simplify the whole thing by just releasing that page. :)

Please let me know how you would like to proceed. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 20:47, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for your reply. I've responded at my talk page. :) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 12:25, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:KOMO_1973_logo.jpg

Thanks for uploading or contributing to Image:KOMO_1973_logo.jpg. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in Wikipedia articles constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use. Suggestions on how to do so can be found here.

Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to ensure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.

If you have uploaded other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on those pages too. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any non-free media lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. Do you want to opt out of receiving this notice? Rockfang (talk) 06:12, 16 October 2008 (UTC)


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