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Sources say he was elected prime minister, not prime minister-designate. Can you provide the reference that he officially becomes a PM when the government is confirmed? --Tone 13:49, 17 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Miro Cerar was elected on 25 August 2014 but took office together with ministers on 18 September 2014.
Alenka Bratušek was elected on 27 February 2013, but took office on 20 March 2013, when government was confirmed.
...the same goes for all other Prime Minister

Law: Zakon o vladi RS

Paragraph 3, Article 11: "Šteje se, da je vlada nastopila funkcijo, če je imenovanih več kot dve tretjini ministrov, pri čemer se ne vštevajo ministri brez resorja. Predsednik vlade mora v desetih dneh po nastopu funkcije vlade predlagati še neimenovane ministre, oziroma obvestiti Državni zbor, katere resorje bo začasno, vendar ne dlje kot za tri mesece, prevzel sam ali jih poveril drugemu ministru."

True, this relates to the beginning of the cabinet term, not the PM. Today, PM was already sworn in. Has this changed? IMO we should change for Cerar as well. --Tone 13:59, 17 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

See for example: "40-letni Šarec je z današnjo izvolitvijo postal deveti predsednik vlade, medtem ko bo njegova vlada, če jo bo uspel dokončno sestaviti, 13. v samostojni Sloveniji. " --Tone 14:00, 17 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

He is Prime Minister-Designate (mandatar), which means he has to form government now. Until then, current government is still in office, incuding Prime Minister Cerar. Šarec cannot be Prime Minister without cabinet (ministers). He has no power at the moment, only mandate to form government.

It's the same situation as with U.S. President-Elect, he is President, but has not power until he takes office on 20 January, until then seating President has all power.

I understand your point but then all the sources are wrong ... That's why I am asking for a detailed reference. The law you cite is about the cabinet, not the PM. --Tone 14:24, 17 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

No, the source i stated is for government as a whole. According to article 110 of Constitution ("Vlado sestavljajo predsednik in ministri. Vlada in posamezni ministri so v okviru svojih pristojnosti samostojni in odgovorni državnemu zboru."), government consists of Prime Minister and ministers, they all take office at the same time - when government is confirmed in the National Assembly. Once again, Marjan Šarec is Prime Minister-Designate, so he has to form government now, if he fails he will not take office at all. So country cannot be without government (logic). Cerar and his 12th Government remain in office, until new, 13th Government (Šarec Cabinet) is elected - meaning that at least two thirds of ministers is elected.

And no, sources are not wrong, he was elected Prime Minister, but won't take office until he forms the 13th government.

Ok, the constitution is a better source. Though this means that the media get it wrong, they say he became the PM :P --Tone 14:34, 17 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

No, they don't, you have to understand the difference between Prime Minister and Prime Minister-Designate. One officially becomes Prime Minister, when he gets his government elected, until then old government has all powers.

[1] [2] Anyway, I think we solved the problem with the timing of the update. --Tone 14:38, 17 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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You put the picture for Spain Prime Minister of Spain wrong. It's Antonio Costa from Portugal !! — Preceding unsigned comment added by CuteDolphin712 (talk • contribs) 17:51, 15 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I did what and where?? --Sredina (talk) 18:05, 15 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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You just added names and link in the same cell.Sredina (talk) 16:04, 12 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Yes..? That was no reason to revert it. You could have just formated it as you liked. --Glentamara (talk) 15:08, 13 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I just automatically did it. It doesn't really change anthing tho.Sredina (talk) 15:22, 13 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Return the text and delete what you think is coppied, cause not everything was, and some things, such as names for legislative proposal, can only be coppied, you cant just make something up, and a lot of stuff in there was legislative proposals names. Sredina

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Politics of Slovenia

Hi.

I didn't say memberships are not notable, but that we couldn't have them where they were—in fact I left them in the section "Foreign relations". Putting international organizations there means that, for every country in the world, we would have to put at the beginning of the template, even before the Laws of the country, all the names of boards and associations the country is part of, such as "Organization of American States", "Mercosur", "Commonwealth of Independent States", "ASEAN", "United Nations", "African Union", "Entente Cordiale", "Axis of Resistance", "Arab League", "Warsaw Pact", "Union of South American Nations", "BRICS", "PROSUR", "Group of 8", "of 7", "of 20", "of 4", and so on. You too understand that it would look more as an endless shopping list then a succinct overview of the country politics.

You say some memberships are relevant, but where to draw the line between relevance (leading to a portrayal at the top) and marginality (leading to a concealment from eyesight)? To me the EU is really not relevant at all, we would surely be better off without it—let's leave it in the last section of foreign relations.

P.S: I was not talking about the relationship between the powers of government (e.g. executive, etc.), but about the sources of law, which everybody who wants to, knowns the basis of (and they are two very different things). --Foghe (talk) 10:14, 30 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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