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EUFTT map

Hi Spitzl. Thank you for your contributions to the European Union financial transaction tax page, however I wanted to let you know that in your last update of the map that illustrates the article, Norway seems to have disappeared! I just wanted to let you know and give you a chance to correct that if you wanted to. Best regards. Nb12345 (talk) 10:30, 25 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanx for the notice. It is fixed now. Cheers, --spitzl (talk) 13:59, 25 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Spitzl, I just saw your File:EU Fiscal Compliance (debt-to-GDP ratio).png where I noticed mistakes in your ratios for Denmark, Finland, Austria, Cyprus, Spain and Portugal. According to the numbers given by your source, the European Commission's Report, they should be in a different order. Cheers — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.184.72.67 (talk) 14:31, 6 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanx. The data is correct, the source was outdated. Now it should be ok. --spitzl (talk) 17:33, 6 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Quick question for you

Hi, I made some small edits to the European Union financial transaction tax page. You seem to be the main person editing it. Let me know what you think of my additions. --RodrigoRaviera (talk) 08:46, 27 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. Thanx for your contribution. It looks fine to me. Just be careful with long quotes. It might be better to add the essence of such statements in your own words. Be bold. --spitzl (talk) 11:06, 27 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Request to expand File:Greek debt and EU average.png

Thanks for your great debt-to-GDP plot. My suggestion today, is however to expand it with additional historic data from 1977-1999. I found the data at the official AMECO database (being updated frequently and administered by the European Comission - Economic and Financial Affairs), and for a start copied the data into the wikitable right below (and only omitted 2001-2015 because they are already covered by the plot). I think the historic data are also interesting to plot, as it helps to show that Greece had a lower debt-to-GDP ratio than the Euro Area until 1986, and an increasing trend since 1977. So the debt problem today, is actually because of accumulated problems throughout the past 30 years, while the Greek Economy was perfectly healthy back in the 1970s.

Nation	1977	1978	1979	1980	1981	1982	1983	1984	1985	1986	1987	1988	1989	1990	1991	1992	1993	1994	1995	1996	1997	1998	1999	2000
Euro Area	29.7	32.1	32.8	33.4	36.8	40.9	44.1	48.0	50.2	52.6	54.4	55.1	55.6	56.5	57.3	59.1	65.0	67.7	72.0	73.7	73.2	72.8	71.6	69.2
Greece	17.9	23.2	22.7	22.5	26.7	30.2	34.6	41.3	48.3	50.2	56.4	61.6	64.8	71.7	74.0	79.1	99.2	97.2	97.9	100.3	97.5	95.4	94.9	104.4

I think it would be great if the plot cover all years from 1977-2015, with a small note that the euro figures cover the official EuroArea-17 in 1995-2015, EuroArea-12 in 1991-94 and EuroArea-12 (without Eastern Germany) in 1977-1990. Danish Expert (talk) 00:01, 10 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I created a new graph covering Greek debt and EU average since 1977. It looks like the AMECO source only provides data from 1995-2013 for the Euro Area and 1990-2013 for Greece. I based the graph on your table posted here but it would be great if you could add your source on wikicommons, thanx. --spitzl (talk) 10:34, 16 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Alright, I'll keep it in mind. Thanx for the notice. Regards, --spitzl (talk) 07:59, 29 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi Spitzl, very special and interesting username you have. :-D Lotje (talk) 06:45, 1 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanx. And no need to worry. All I do here is super transparent! :-) --spitzl (talk) 12:45, 1 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Cyprus 10yr government bond yields

First of all thanks for your great work on the European sovereign-debt crisis article. In regards of your graph displaying the monthly average values for 10yr government bonds, I have a request/suggestion that you place a note for Cyprus marked by a *, to explain that the constant 7% yield is a technical cut-off maximum regime, which mean that it doesn't reflect actual market yields for the Cyprus 10yr governmental bonds. The problem is, that the Cyprus bond market is very thin. So when Cyprus in respectively June 2011 and August 2011 issued its latest long-term government bonds: (CYGB 6% 9jun2021) and (CYGB 6.5% 25aug2021), this was done by attaching a so-called maximum cut-off yield at respectively 6.275% and 7.0% for the two bonds. So this is why ECB/Eurostat since August 2011 has mapped the monthly Cypriot 10yr government bond yield to be constant at 7.0%.

List of all long-term Cypriot bonds (issued since 2005, with maturity in 2020 or later):

Cyprus, EUR, 3feb2020, Eurobonds: Issued in January 2010 with a free market traded yield (no cut-off yield).
CYGB 6.1% 20apr2020: Issued in April 2005 with a maximum cut-off yield at 6.2%.
CYGB 5.35% 9jun2020: Issued in June 2005 with a maximum cut-off yield at 5.09%.
CYGB 6% 9jun2021: Issued in June 2011 with a maximum cut-off yield at 6.275%.
CYGB 6.5% 25aug2021: Issued in Aug 2011 with a maximum cut-off yield at 7.0%.

Ever since your graph plot started in December 2009 and until current time, all Cypriot bonds with a maximum cut-off yield (which ECB/Eurostat has reported data for throughout this period), does not reflect the actual market yields for long-term government bonds. Thus it is highly recommended we instead only take a look at the latest Cypriot 10yr government bond without any cut-off yield, which is the one above issued 27 January 2010 with maturity on 3 February 2020. This bond is traded daily at both Berlin and Frankfurt, where you for both market-places can calculate the monthly average market yields for the bond (and in our graph plot data as the average rate between those two markets), provided that you are a subscriber to the "Cbonds database". If you do not subscribe to "Cbonds database", you can still for free check the recorded yields for the last market day by clicking this link. When this bond with maturity in February 2020 was traded on 17 May 2013, the Yield To Maturity (YTM) was recorded to be respectively 11.09% and 11.51% at Berlin and Frankfurt, which is sufficiently above the "technical 7% cut-off limit" for the bond with maturity in August 2021.

If you read Graph 19 in the new Economic Adjustment Programme for Cyprus, you can also see how the yield of the Cyprus 2020 bond developed from 1 January 2010 to 1 March 2013, which reveal its YTM peaked at around 16.5% in June 2012 (at the point of time where credit rating agencies downgraded the Cypriot government bonds to junk status). It is unfortunate that the Eurostat/ECB data does not reflect real market yields for Cyprus. In your graph, we should now (in my point of view) instead depict for Cyprus: The monthly average data for the government bond with maturity in February 2020, as calculated by the "Cbonds database" source. This would be far better if we want to report some comparable true government bond yields. Please note this special situation only applies for Cyprus, due to having a very thin government bond market and a maximum cut-off yield regime. All other ECB/Eurostat 10yr government bond yield statistic data for the eurozone member states, are reflecting some correct market values (except for Estonia where they show no data due to the complete absence of long-term government bonds; but this has already been sufficiently noted with text beneath the graph). If you don't have money to subscribe to the "Cbonds database" calculation tool, I hope you will be able to chase finding this data from a free source on the world wide web. I whish you a good hunt. Please let me know what you find. :-) Best regards, Danish Expert (talk) 06:05, 18 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Today I looked further into our data access opportunities. Unfortunately any paid subscription to the Cbonds database monthly yield calculator does not entail access to publication of the data extracts (see chapter 6 of the user agreement). So the paid subscription indeed gives an easy access to the data we chase, but we cant publish the extracted data towards third parties at Wikipedia. Realizing this, I have today searched for alternative free data sources. After a brief visit to all German financial market places, none of them unfortunately had YTM statistical data uploaded for the 2020 Cyprus bond, but fortunately they had free access to daily historic price data for the bond. Knowing the daily historic price data, the daily YTM can then afterwards be calculated by manually typing the price data for each historic day at the websites "yield calculator". Hence we have free access to build-up our own excel-sheet with daily YTMs for the 2020 Cyprus bond, from where we can finally extract the average monthly values for our chart. Doing this work would entail roughly 1000 calculations to cover the period January 2010 until May 2013. We shall keep in mind, that as far as I understand Wikipedia's policy (WP:CALC), this calculation would entail too many steps to be allowed for direct inclusion in any Wikipedia article, but if we only upload this data as a personally created chart to Wikimedia Commons (while describing at the charts file-page how the final monthly average values were extracted from the source), then it will be fully allowed. If you have time to do it, then it would be great. To save time for the working process, we of course only need to know the YTM bond values from one German market place (i.e. either Frankfurt or Xetra). So you can skip the part I wrote earlier above, about calculating the YTM as average for both Berlin+Frankfurt. :-) Danish Expert (talk) 11:04, 19 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Another time saving proposal for you to consider, is that you for the plot of data instead just roughly reads all the printed "Cyprus 2020 bond yields throughout 1 January 2010 to 1 March 2013", based on Graph 19 in the Economic Adjustment Programme for Cyprus. This data compilation method, would certainly be the quickest way to compile the Cyprus 2020 bond data, and in my point of view still entail sufficient accuracy for the illustrated purpose. Danish Expert (talk) 11:04, 19 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

FYI: On 19 May I copied all my info posted above to you into the European sovereign-debt crisis talkpage, and invited other editors to chime in with help or alternative data proposals. I still consider you to be the leading man to work it out, but just thought a reflection on the proposed work at the articles talkpage perhaps could help us in the long run to find a better primary source for the 2020 Cyprus bond we chase. Danish Expert (talk) 05:27, 20 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

After a third search for a source with free 2020 Cyprus bond data, I today managed to dig up the annual Cyprus Public Debt Management reports. These reports all contain a graph of daily yields for the bond throughout the year, from which it is easy to extract monthly average values:

2010 Cyprus Public Debt Management report (see: page 19)
2011 Cyprus Public Debt Management report (see: graph 4, page 17)
2012 Cyprus Public Debt Management report (see: figure 4, page 15)

All 3 reports above cite Bloomberg as data source, and mention the bond yield data has been recorded from secondary market trade at the London Stock Exchange. We can use those 3 sources to extract (read) the monthly average yields for all months during Jan 2010 until Feb 2013:

Bond Yield (%)	Jan 2010	Feb	Mar	Apr	May	Jun	Jul	Aug	Sep	Oct	Nov	Dec	Jan 2011	Feb	Mar	Apr	May	Jun	Jul	Aug	Sep	Oct	Nov	Dec	Jan 2012	Feb	Mar	Apr	May	Jun	Jul	Aug	Sep	Oct	Nov	Dec	Jan 2013	Feb
CYPGB 4.625%, Feb2020	4.6	4.4	4.3	4.3	4.2	4.1	4.0	4.0	4.2	4.3	5.3	5.9	6.1	6.0	5.9	6.1	6.2	7.5	9.1	11.8	11.0	9.8	11.1	11.9	12.4	13.6	13.2	12.7	13.4	15.3 (max.16.5)	14.8	15.3	13.2	12.6	12.0	11.7	11.7	9.5

We of course still need to use a 4th source to map the ongoing yield data month by month in March 2013 and beyond. If you can find and report a link to such a source it would really be great! After a brief visit to the Bloomberg website and London Stock Exchange, I was unfortunately not able to find visible yield data posted, but perhaps the data will be available if you are a registered user of their sites? ... Otherwise we have to rely on the much more time-consuming option to convert the posted daily price data from one of the German market places, and then calculate the corresponding YTM by their "yield calculator" (as I provided links for in my reply above) ... Or perhaps rely on the "lazy option" only to update Cyprus yields one time per year (next time in March 2014, when the 2013 Cyprus Public Debt Management report gets published). I will leave the choice about how to proceed with this data matter for you. Best regards, Danish Expert (talk) 05:27, 20 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

About figures for March+April 2013 and beyond: Today I have tried to use the Deutche Börse yield calculator and can report it is not as difficult or time consuming as I first feared. You only need to plot in 1) Trading Day + 2) Price (in the field for: current quote = clean price), and then hit the calculate bottom, with the last third step being to manually type in the daily calculated yield into your excel sheet. Repeating this procedure continuously, it will only take approx. 10s per daily calculation (equal to 5min for compilation of data for a complete month). So using this route to compile the data, is something we indeed can do without getting too overloaded. In regards of daily price data we shall input the trading values reported since 2 Feb 2010 by the Frankfurt Stock Exchange. On that basis, it should be rather fast now also to calculate the missing values for March + April (while for older months I suggest we plot the data that I already compiled to you in the table above). Danish Expert (talk) 05:01, 21 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Danish Expert! Do you think it is really necessary to give such detailed information on that issue? I am afraid I don't have the time for that at the moment. What I could offer you is adding the Cyprus bond yield (Jan 2010 - Feb 2013) to the existing graph. --spitzl (talk) 20:37, 21 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for adding the additional "real" data graph for Cyprus. Below you have the new set of extracted average data for the months from January 2013 to April 2014 (applying for the same real traded government bond maturing in February 2020).

Bond Yield (%)	Jan 2013	Feb	Mar	Apr	May	Jun	Jul	Aug	Sep	Oct	Nov	Dec	Jan 2014	Feb	Mar	Apr
CYPGB 4.625%, Feb2020	11.6	9.7	10.2	12.1	11.3	11.9	13.5	12.1	11.4	10.7	9.0	8.3	7.8	7.2	6.3	5.2

Beside of adding the data above, I also suggest you extend the note in the graph from "actual market trade values without cut-off yield" to "actual market trade values without cut-off yield for the Cyprus government bond maturing 3 February 2020". The extended part is important, as it emphasize the "Cyprus (real)" data currently depicts the 6yr rate rather than the 10yr rate. By the way, I have today cheked the entire list of all issued government Cyprus bonds, and we still have no internationally traded Cyprus government bonds with longer maturity than the February 2020 bond. Thanks for your great continous update work of the graph. Best regards, Danish Expert (talk) 09:22, 29 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanx for the data! It will go online with the next update. Best wishes, --spitzl (talk) 14:14, 29 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Next update of government bond yields

It would be nice, if you can update the bond yield graph again, when the April average figures are released by ECB in mid-May 2015. We had some quiet interesting developments in Greece, while all other EU member states experienced falling yields to new record lows. :-)

Once again, I will of course assist you to extract bond yield data for the secondary market traded "CYPGB 4.625% EUR (3 Feb 2020)" bond for the months in 2014, and post these data here at your talkpage also around mid-May (when the Cypriot Ministry of Finance releases their "2014 PDMO report"). BTW, Cyprus just issued a new seven-year "CYPGB 3.875% EUR (6 May 2022)" bond (carrying an effective yield of only 4.0%, at its first trading day), which we of course then effectively shall extract data from (instead of the old one) starting from May 2015 and going forward. But due to time constraints in my time schedule, I will only deliver those average data calculations to you for this new bond around May 2016 - awaiting the release of the "2015 PDMO report" in May 2016. Of course you are welcome to update the graph more frequently than on a yearly basis, but the "Cyprus (real) data" series just has to wait (only being updated at a yearly schedule), as none of us has available time to calculate it on a rolling basis. Once again, I want to thank you for doing the great update work with the graph, and hope you have time continuing doing so in the future. Best regards, Danish Expert (talk) 12:18, 29 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, no problem. Just post the data when you get a hand on it and I'll put the new graph online, thanx. Best wishes, --spitzl (talk) 23:18, 29 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. The Cypriot monthly average data for 2014 and early 2015 has now been published, with the extracted values following in the table below. Danish Expert (talk) 10:31, 19 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Bond Yield (%)	Jan 2014	Feb	Mar	Apr	May	Jun	Jul	Aug	Sep	Oct	Nov	Dec	Jan 2015	Feb	Mar
CYPGB 4.625%, Feb2020	7.8	7.3	6.3	5.2	5.1	4.9	5.1	5.1	4.7	5.4	5.4	5.0	5.1	5.1	4.1

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Hi I just saw your graph, and I find the red/green colours misleading. I also see you swapped the colours in an earlier version. While I may or may not agree with the "politics" of your suggestive re-colouring,...maybe blue and grey; grey and black or so... would be better? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Teafields (talk • contribs) 15:11, 30 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Teafields, thanx for your suggestion. Actually I didn't want to imply anything. I simply used green (for complying) and red (for not complying). Is that already political? If so, in which way? --spitzl (talk) 22:06, 30 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Unit Labour Costs in Europe

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can you perhaps come over to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Graphics_Lab/Illustration_workshop#Unit_Labour_Costs_in_Europe and help make sense of this? Thank you very much. --Lommes (talk) 10:39, 1 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Lommes, I just responded to your question. Hope that helps. --spitzl (talk) 20:30, 1 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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