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Copy edit of Bubble Butt

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I wanna thank you for the copy edit. Isn't there suppose to be a GOCE tag on the talk page of the aforementioned article?

Thank You. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 12:52, 31 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I believe MarioSoulTruthFan is talking about Template:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors. This is a banner you can optionally place on the talk pages of articles you copy edit. You may not know a lot about templates yet. Follow the link for instructions. Basically, you edit the talk page of the article and place the template near the top, just below any WikiProject banners. (Despite the template starting with "WikiProject" it is grouped with article history banners which show processes the article went through, not a WikiProject banner which shows association to a WikiProject's subject matter.) If the article has issues and you cannot complete a copy edit, Template:GOCEreviewed can be used. Again, these are optional. A lot of copy editors only use this before an article goes through a formal review. – Reidgreg (talk) 22:07, 31 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Copy edit reviews

Thanks for your recent copy edits of GOCE Requests! It's quite good work, and amazingly good for how few edits you have on your account.

If you haven't been there yet, there are a whole bunch of copy-editing resources listed at Wikipedia:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/How to. I'd also like to invite you to submit your copy edits of Requests to our July copy-editing drive which awards barnstars to participants. (If you don't have a lot of time, try to create your section for the drive and I'll list your articles; sorry for the rush but the drive is wrapping up so it's best to get that done within a day or two.)

Wikipedia has its own style guide, the Manual of Style (or MOS:). It's quite large and spread across several pages. The MOS provides some standards to give articles a consistent look across the encyclopedia, and favours clear language and accessibility. Most editors don't have to know it but experienced copy editors are expected to be familiar with the essentials. So it wouldn't be a bad idea to browse through it a bit, and if you're ever uncertain about a style concern you can usually find an answer there.

I'll also try to review your copy edits and give you a few notes. I hope that this is taken constructively. This is mostly be little MOS tweaks, which get a bit nit-picky, but that's the job.

Starting with your most-recent copy edit, "Let's Go to the Mall". (If you want to see differences side-by-side, you can look at the View history for the article, find my edit at or near the top of the list, and click on "prev" to compare to the previous version.)

This is really subtle: With the first mention of the subject in the lead, the double quotes which indicate the title of a work of art do not themselves get bolded. So instead of "Let's Go to the Mall" it should be "Let's Go to the Mall". More often you'll see that when someone has a nickname expressed in the middle of their name. It's a good habit to check boldface, which shouldn't be used much in articles, and also to check punctuation and spacing at quotes (see below).
With mdy dates, there should be a comma following the year (see MOS:DATEFORMAT)
You hyphenated teen pop-influenced song in the lead; watch that you also hyphenate later occurrences for article consistency.
Be careful when decades are expressed with two digits (e.g.: 80s pop music). Unless it's part of a quote or a proper name (with citation) we should generally use all four digits. (see MOS:DECADE)
Keep an eye on punctuation at quotes. With Deniece Williams' "Let's Hear It for the Boy," that comma should be outside of the double quotes since it isn't part of the song's title. Wikipedia uses the logical quotation system (MOS:LQ) which places punctuation outside of quotes unless it is part of the quotation (or, in this case, title).

Bubble Butt:

reaching the Top Ten on the Dance Club Songs chart, peaking at number eight. I'm not sure that top ten qualifies as a proper name; it sounds generic to me and I would tend to use lower case. Either way, it seems redundant when the peak position (number eight) is also given. If it reached number eight, obviously it reached the top ten. Since this is in the lead of the article which should be a brief summary of the subject, I removed the top ten part as redundant.
Small addendum: Usually we express numbers below ten as words, numbers above one hundred with numerals, and those between can be expressed with either numerals or words. Among the exceptions is when numbers may be compared. The first part of the sentence mentioned above refers to the song reaching "number 56" on another chart, so numerals should also be used for it reaching "number 8" on the dance chart, which makes it easier for the reader to compare the figures. (see MOS:NUMNOTES)
Here's another place to watch quotes, with this possessive Bella found "Bubble Butt's" music video to be very colored. The possessive 's is not part of the title so should be outside the double quotes. To separate the apostrophe from the double quote you can use   or {{" '}} to put a thin space between them like this: "Bubble Butt"'s. However, if this looks too awkward, it may be better to rephrase to avoid the possessive. The section is about the video so that could safely be assumed.
Try to expand acronyms on first use in the lead and body. Not all readers are going to know what EDM or NSFW mean, and the reader shouldn't have to chase links to understand.

Sorry, for all the MOS minutia. Don't feel like you have to know all of the MOS to copy edit. Believe me, nobody catches all of it. Maybe try to watch for acronyms, bold and italics, spaces and punctuation at quotes and references, and numbers. You did a really good job with grammar and rephrasing for clarity, and I feel you'll be a real asset to the Guild if you're still interested in copy editing after all of that.

Let me know if you have any questions. – Reidgreg (talk) 21:48, 31 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you so much for the advice! I'm trying to be more involved in the community and I'll definitely take a look at the MOS! In the future I'll record my articles (I know it's too late for July), please let me know if there is anything else I should work on!

Spatium apis (talk) 18:45, 7 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

		The Modest Barnstar
		This barnstar is awarded to Spatium apis for copy editing requests in July 2018. Thank you for your contributions and insisting on clear, comprehensible, and grammatically correct articles. – Reidgreg (talk) 14:34, 6 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]