User talk:Spangineer/archive03

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This archive page includes discussions that occurred approximately between the dates 2005-08-10 and 2005-11-30.

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Func's RfA :)

I sure thought he was one already when he explained to me how to deal with a dispute. Eh, I was just trying to fool you! ;-)

Thank you for your support of my adminship. :)

Please never hesitate to let me know if you have concerns with any administrative action I may make.

Func( t, c, e, ) 19:10, 10 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

L'Abri

Thanks for the L'Abri stub. It's been wanted for some time. — Mark (Mkmcconn) ** 16:22, 12 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I'm constantly surprised by how busy I can be here, at various times, and yet never cross paths with busy Wikipedians with whom I have things in common. I haven't spent a lot of time working on baseball articles, though. I'm an avid spectator, rather than a fan. And, I don't do a lot of cleanup. I obsess over Christian religion articles, mostly. :-) — Mark (Mkmcconn) ** 17:07, 12 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Latin America

You have voted for South America on Wikipedia:This week's improvement drive a few weeks ago. Now Latin America is nominated. Hope you can help us again by voting for Latin America. --Fenice 08:01, 14 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Rubik's Cube

Well that seemed a rather heartless revert. Erm, why? Flowerparty ^talk 18:15, 16 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Oh okay, that's fair enough. You're right about the main article thing. But I'm not sure about the current link, it's kind of buried in the text; it took me a while to find it when I was looking for it. Any ideas? Flowerparty ^talk 18:32, 16 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, it's better. I guess we should take it to the peer review. Flowerparty ^talk 18:53, 16 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

History of South Carolina

Hello. History of South Carolina is on Featured Article Candidates for a third time due to recent controversy. Because you commented on one of its past nominations, you may be interested in commenting this time at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/History of South Carolina. Toothpaste 19:35, 23 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Writing contest info

A snail-mail address will do nicely. Or poste restante, I suppose, if you're shy. You can reach me as meta.sj (on gmail) or via my 'contact this user' link. +sj + 05:05, 26 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I got it! Now I just have to box it up and send it... +sj + 01:42, 8 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Pic of the Day

Hi Spangineer,

Just to let you know that the photo Image:SMAW.welding.af.ncs.jpg that you nominated for WP:FPC is due up for Pic of the Day tomorrow. As this is a weekend, it will also be on the Main Page. If you get a chance, can you check the caption and credits at Wikipedia:Picture of the day/August 27, 2005. -- Solipsist 13:31, 26 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the welcome

WayneRay 17:07, 6 September 2005 (UTC)WayneRay Thanks for your welcome back in June, I have been busy editing and updating and cleaning up on a regular basis. Thanks again [1][reply]

DYK

Did you know? has been updated. A fact from the article Rosa Montero, which you recently created, has been featured in that section on the Main Page. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

Shadez

Hey. You welcomed Shadez a while back but its a hacker. I was the real Shadez and hes taken over my account. Changed password...everything! What do I do? RealShadez 16:10, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

University Park meetup

I'm organizing a University Park, Pennsylvania meetup. Add your user name to the list and contact me if you're interested. Thanks. --Jtalledo (talk) 04:46, 15 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Fine Example

Nathaniel: A little birdie told me how your diligent work developing the welding and vocational type articles, received special recognition in Munich. I'm not into passing around those silly barn stars n crap, so let this note serves as my acknowledgment and special recognition of your sober and steadfast work. I also noticed your home page comment expressing frustration about edit-war entrapment, and thus your renewed focus upon simple article contribution.... You are a fine example. Take care, Erin. TTLightningRod 14:20, 21 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Hi

Thanks, I'm feeling my way at the moment. Hanging around FAC and adding cultural references, as it were. And doing a lot of real world stuff, too. Filiocht | The kettle's on 12:20, 23 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Talk:Welding

Thanks for putting up the Mainpage date on this article. Also, I see that you had quite a bit to do with its promotion to FA so, congratulations. --hydnjo talk 18:31, 23 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

hI

=Nichalp «Talk»= welcomes the Spanish+engineer back. :) Good you removed those pages from your watchlist. I have very few of those type on mine. Less clutter, less tension. I concentrate on writing FA's rather than babbling at discussion policy pages. =Nichalp «Talk»= 09:08, 24 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

DYK

Did you know? has been updated. A fact from the article Carmen Boullosa, which you recently created, has been featured in that section on the Main Page. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

While we're on the subject of DYK, you're missing two things when you update the template- first the image that appears on the template should also be inlcuded in the archive listing. Second, while the image is on the template it needs a description so people can make the link between the image and the text when they mouse over the pic. Thanks. --nixie 23:57, 27 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I vary the number of updates with the amount of suggestions, my basic rule of thumb is to update if there are enough suggestions for two new templates waiting. Just after and just before the weekend it needs at least two updates to use up the aging suggestions - during the week it may vary between 1 or two times a day and the amount of suggestions with free images. With the amount currently there it could probably be updated again around 12:00 UTC. Adding new suggestions can speed things up if the old ones are stale, look for articles over 1500 kb in the new pages log that has an interesing hook for dyk - anything shorter than 1500 kb that is usually too short for DYK--nixie 02:09, 28 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Did you know? has been updated. A fact from the article Vicente Leñero, which you recently created, has been featured in that section on the Main Page. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

WikiChristian

Hi there,

I notice that you are a Christian. Come and take a look at www.wikichiristian.org and consider contributing. It is still small and has very few users. I'm praying that God helps the site to grow and become a forum for Christians to write and read about all aspects of Christianity. It is not meant to be a copy of wikipedia. It is not meant to be purely an encyclopedia. For any given topic, it will hopefully contain a short summary of the topic followed by links to many sub-articles - some containing simple facts; some sharing experiences; some explaining a particular viewpoint and so on.

Take for example the article on grace. It has various "Definition and explanation" articles explaining the meaning of grace. It has a few "Articles / opinions" about grace. It has links for "Quotes' about grace and links to "Songs about grace". The site is also meant to be a resource site containing information about Christian texts, literature, art, music, radio, television and internet.

Take a look at the example article on the song Shout to the Lord. It has links to information about the song, lyrics and chords to the song and links for comments or opinions to be expressed about the song.

The site also intends to explain the history of important events in Christianity. Take a look at The Reformation section. This has links for "Overview" articles, "Opinion" articles, "Quotes" and "Travel" stories.

The site intends to be a reference about major (and minor) figures in the Bible, the early church and today. Take a look at John Stott. It contains "Overview" and "Opinion" articles. It contains texts of "Talks" given by John Stott and links to "Books" by John Stott.

In summary, I suppose, that my hope is that WikiChristian becomes a major reference point for Christians and non-Christians to go to find about any issue related to Christianity. I don't believe that this should be carbon-copy of wikipedia. It should resemble it in some ways, but in other ways, it should be quite different in structure and evolution. I realize that there are different views about different topics - and accordingly, there should always be the opportunity for a person to write his personal view under the "Opinion and articles" section of any given page.

I would love you to take a look at wikichristian and contribute. If you don't wish to contribute, would you consider visiting it's world wide directory of churches we are setting up and entering your church into the database. The point of the database is to state the location of a church with the service times and add a brief description of the church. You can take a look for example at: Church Directory -> Australia -> South Australia -> Adelaide -> St Matthew's Anglican Church

If you don't wish to contribute to WikiChristian, you could consider one of the other wikis related to Christianity that have been set up by other people. These include: Theopedia, Compass or OrthoxWiki.

Thanks

Graham Grove

Alfredo Oliveira

I have placed a tag on the article Alfredo Oliveira, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. I did this because the article seems to be a biographical account about a person but it does not indicate how or why that person is notable. If the person really is notable, I advise you to edit the article promptly to indicate why, and also put a note on Talk:Alfredo Oliveira. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. You might also want to read our criteria for speedy deletion, particularly item 7 under Articles. DES ^(talk) 20:51, 3 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

TIG weld

Hello Nathaniel: Sure thing about signing off the license, however I'm not so sure how exactly it is supposed to be indicated. I added written releases upon other image work.... yet noticed that it still came up short in the opinion of others.

Will this work?: "This image is offered under [Cc-by-sa-2.5] by the creator of both the photograph, and its subject material. TTLightningRod". Should it say something else, or more? You'll let me know.

As to my activities around here.... ya, I've been away a while for two good reasons; One, I got too wrapped up in that frustrating wikipathology. Second, I'm in the middle of a highly involved shop renewal here. Lots to be done before winter, and of the utmost importance to me. We'll have much to discuss, about vocational articles and craftsmanship, once the new equipment is up and running (Dec.). You'll have to make an effort to visit down here, it's only a two hour drive from Penn U. Take care, TTLightningRod 16:59, 4 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Let me know if that license 'sign-off' is the best way, if so, I'll repeat that on future uploads. I have a little time here and there... I would like to make a CAD diagram, or maybe I could photograph TIG welding somehow.... I was thinking of putting a digital camera inside a welding hood. I have no idea if that would work or not... but willing to try. Take care, TTLightningRod 13:34, 8 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

New Engineering Wiki

Engineering Wiki is a wiki entirely dedicated to collecting information about Engineering. I invite you to join this wiki.

Esperanza

I hope being moved to the talk page didn't affect your decision to be an Esperanzian; we were trying to prevent election fraud by locking the page, and I didn't want any of the ones who are listed on the talk page to wonder why you were added early. No hard feelings, and I hope you decide to stick with us! -- Essjay · Talk 01:59, 13 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

My user page

Thanks for reverting the junk at my user page, I owe you one. Man... the first vandalism of my user page. It means I'm doing something good.. :) Tito xd^(?!?) 03:41, 14 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm...thanks for that. I must have really made whoever they are mad! Thunderbrand 04:08, 14 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

possessive of inanimate items

Usually, 's is used only for animate items, such as humans and non-human animals. 'The roots of the program' is what you need there. Tony 04:29, 16 October 2005 (UTC) Click here to leave me a message.[reply]

PS I'm not an English major; I'm a musician.

dolphins

You are a decent writer compared with most WPians. It's just that the crunch comes with these nominations. Your suggestion of getting more editors onto this is good; I can only do a few, and sometimes I'm too busy to do any. Perhaps we need a special category of, say, 'FA proofreader', to harness people's egos for this voluntary task. If you suggest it to Raul, don't say that it came from me. Tony 03:42, 17 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

GTAW welding

Hi! I notice you're quite an authority on GTAW welding, and would like to ask if I may tap your expertise by asking a few questions - I'm about to buy a small DC TIG welder for a Live steam project of mine, and need to weld copper and Cu-Ni alloys. If you'd agree to this, I'd be grateful. AdThanksVance, --Janke | Talk 20:47, 17 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the "disclaimer"! ;-) My main GTAW questions (to which I haven't been able to find an answer) are these:
1. Can you join pure copper and Cu-Ni (10% Ni, 1.6% Fe, 0.9% Mn, balance Cu) and get a good join? There's bound to be a mixed composition of alloy elements in and around the weld - and it needs to be strong (stay bolts in a locomotive fire-tube_boiler).
2. What amperage do you need to join 4 mm copper sheet to itself? CuNi is easy at 100 A, I've tried it. But it has a thermal conductivity only 10% of pure copper...
Well, that's it for now. Looking forward to hearing from you! --Janke | Talk 07:07, 18 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome. (4836.03)

Thankyou for kindly welcoming me to Wikipedia. I've been writing articles anonymously for some time. (Personally I prefer to edit anonymously but some people have been using this IP for vandalism.). Therefore I know about most of the stuff like the five pillars of wikipedia etc that you put on my talk page - but thankyou anyway.

thanks (Subhan M Ali)

Its a wonderful experience to contribute something

lets keep the spirit alive

Hello (InTheCastle

Thank you for being welcomed. See you soon.

InTheCastle 12:55, 18 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the welcome (Vdcnorth)

I look forward to helping.What an extraordinary effort! Best Regards, V.

GTAW

Thanks for the Amps! ;-) If you can eventually find anything about welding Cu to CuNi, I'd appreciate if you can drop me a line - but don't go to too much trouble! I might do some experiments, myself, when I get hold of a welder, and test the strength of the joints before I weld the actual boiler... --Janke | Talk 05:57, 19 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:WikiProject Mexico

Thanks for signing up, and I'm sorry your name slipped my mind when I was sending out invitations. –Hajor 15:27, 20 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

FLC Math

Hello. Because of recent edits to the list of lists, the question arises: whether you vote or its accompanying comments should get updated? posted by User:Michael Hardy --Spangineer^es (háblame) 03:23, 23 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Cs and As

Hey! I am the guy who has been adding the Cs and As to the NHL team pages. I didn't realize that one needed to log in as a user in order to make changes.

To answer your questions, I am getting the Cs and As from the teams websites and/or direct observations from games on television. How should I cite these, if at all?

"Do you think you can exercise some proof reading. Cleaning up your messes is getting tiresome." - What is that all about? I thought my proof reading has been fine!? Can you give me some specifics?

Yes Florida does have 4 As this year on a rotating basis. NJ has 5, Phoenix has 3, etc...

reply to talk:danielearl

RfA

Hi Spangineer

I thought I'd alert you to the fact that User Redwolf nominated me for adminship last week, which I accepted. Regrettably, this has coincided with a stouch with several huge egos whose FAC I helped on and then critiqued after my they'd trashed my entire contribution. I normally shun conflict, but here, I'm emersed in it, and I feel utterly destroyed. One of the protagonists appears to be drumming up support for his cause on other people's talk pages.

If the nomination fails Monday night, which appears likely now since the voting balance is borderline, I'll be trashing my personal page and not returning: it's just too embarrassing and unpleasant to go on.

So, if you have the inclination, the war zone is at: [2]

Thanks

Thanks!

Nice of you to vote.

Tony 01:18, 30 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Request for help

Hi Spangineer. I've been given your name by another administrator, Dmcdevit. I've been involved in a certainly stupid edit war with User:Gibraltarian (and being blocked by breaking the 3RR).

The issue here is that I need third opinions with regard to what I consider as a violation of the NPOV by Gibraltarian in the articles Spain, Disputed status of Gibraltar and History of Gibraltar. IMHO, he's trying to present UK/Gibraltar POV as it were facts, removing information that he doesn't seem to like (such as the begining of the British and not Archduke's occupation of Gibraltar or the aftermath of the conquest for those who left Gibraltar and settled down in San Roque as the real Gibraltarias (as they considered themselves)) and removing Spain's position (always identified as such) with regard, for example the status of the isthmus. I've have at least four item of disagreement (but of course I don't want to be too verbose in this post).

As I've said before, there has been a (deplorable) edit war and, although I've tried to use the talk pages to support my position, no similar attitude (IMHO again) has been got from the other part (just comments such as "Ecemaml go away", "Irrelevant", "Untrue" or "Ecemaml troll should check meaning of "neutral""). Now he's reverting again anonymously. Of course that I could be also biased myself. Therefore, I'd need some help to sort out this issue. The procedures seem realy complex so that I've posted also a message in Request for Assistance to get help.

Can you somehow help me?

Best regards --Ecemaml 17:08, 1 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Spangineer. You're right. It's a dammed nationalist conflict. Because of that, I think that both sides of the discussion should be equially shown (that's my interpretation of NPOV). I'll do as you suggest (I don't think it will be useful at all, since Gibraltarian doesn't seem to accept anything from my side). What I'd do like to ask you is some sort of supervision of the discusions. I'm really fed up of trying to talk and being answered usually with nothing more than personal attacks (breaking the wikipetiquette, I think). Can you please do that and also take a look at the history of the articles? Many thanks in advance --Ecemaml 17:08, 1 November 2005 (UTC) PD: it seems as if Gibraltarian doesn't want even to log in, but reverting anonymously.[reply]

Hi Spangineer. I'll try to stick to the points as closely as possible. As the disagreement affects to several articles, I think we'd better talk about them in just one page. Is it OK for you? --Ecemaml 20:58, 1 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Spangineer. I've have to recognize I'm a little bit fed up. Can you please tell Gibraltarian stop personally attacking me ("troll" and things like that)? I've never been unrespectful with him but it seems he can break the wikipetiquette for free. Best regards --Ecemaml 06:58, 2 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Hi again, can you please do something to prevent absurd reversions by Gibraltarian (such as this)? While I go on developing the discussion section, I'm also enhancing the existing text (those not controversial part). But now it seems a reversion just for fun ?? Many thanks --Ecemaml 12:53, 2 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I forgot to answer you in the Talk page of Disputed status of Gibraltar. I did it now. --Ecemaml 18:29, 4 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Hi again (and sorry to bother you again). I'm wondering why should put up with being called "troll", "liar", "bigot", "fascist", "unable to distinguish [Goebbels-type news] from reality" (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Disputed_status_of_Gibraltar&diff=prev&oldid=27452996)?. Where is the threshold regarding personal attacks (I'd like to know it to exploit the margin of abuse that the rules seems to have)?. --Ecemaml 19:43, 5 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Again, Spangineer. How much can I abuse my opponents? As it seems that Gibraltarian may do it for free, I'm looking forward to doing the same. Seems fine, doesn't it? --Ecemaml 09:05, 8 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

That's Bowyer, Not Bowen

Hi,

I just deleted the pic you posted to the Bowen Island wiki entry. The island in your photo is Bowyer Island, which is much smaller than Bowen, where I live. Here is an aerial photo of Howe Sound, showing both islands.

http://www.ehabweb.net/squamish.html

Cheers.

James Glave james@glave.com

Disputed status of Gibraltar

Hi Spangineer. I think that I've finished from my side. Please, review my edits in Talk:Disputed_status_of_Gibraltar and please remove any possible bias I inadvertently could have introduced. Which are the next steps to add such information to the relevant articles? Best regards --Ecemaml 19:44, 4 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Gibraltar

I am quite happy to work or collaborate with you on anything. But Ecemaml, is a bigoted abusive troll who I will not waste my time with. He has many years hearing nonsense generated by the fascist propaganda machine in spain, and I cannot be expected to spend my days trawling through evidence to refute his lies. He is purposely creating discord, by adding "facts" which he knows full well are untrue and/or POV, just so he can have me wasting my time counteracting him. WP is NOT a "Gib bashing" forum, so he should get lost and go elsewhere. --Gibraltarian 15:49, 5 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

this is about Mysid's complaints and threats of deletion

Spangineer, I wish this site would just say send or post message to Spangineer or something.I only guess pressing the 'save message' link does that. I will do that and also on Mysid's space and hope it reaches both of you.I actually don't mind refereees or even being less emotional but DAVIDSON IS AN EMOTIONAL SUBJECT FOR ME BASED UPON PERSONAL EXPERIENCE AND DOCUMENTABLE FACT.I would appreciate you feedback but don't want some know it all as Mysid appears to see himself from censoring fact either.Please help.

Like I said Davidson himself hides facts so we don't even know birthdate or where he was born.He is James Dale Davidson III as far as I can figure but who is Davidson I and II ? Sincerely Tony Ryals

Mysid, If you can be specific I will send what documentation I have to back my claims which or not outrageous at all.Have you read Davidson's www.newsmax.com ? Now that's outrageous.

What do you know about James Dale Davidson,his founding of the National Taxpayers Union,his involvement with NAANSS his relations to Beltway politics ? His involvement with Miser.com and 'libertarians'? His promotion of penny stock scams on an international scale ? It is indeed you who are being very unspecific.Have you ever wondered why my statements to the SEC go unchallenged by Mr.Davidson ?

I would be willing to take some of your criticisms but if you are unwilling to study what you wish to edit or censor as the case may be be then you should not be trolling the web at all.You would make a police state which is what Davidson wants with him as enforcer proud however.I admit I am biased as he ripped me off.Would you like to see my email correspondence with Davidson ? How about just placing that correspondence,his own words, with or in place of what has been written ?

Have you ever seen his promotions of penny stock scams in Agora INC.THAT PROMOTES IN GERMANY AND EUROPE AS WELL,POSSIBLY EVEN THE CIA'S IONATRON PENNY STOCK PUMP AND DUMP? Have you seen my statements to the SEC of 2003 or what stocklemon.com or the_street.com has written and documented ? Have you ever taken note of the penny stocks he promotes and how they and their share price fall to nothing as he promotes them and dumps shares and yet he always makes a profit off dumping those shares and defrauding investors ? Did you even know he was an international penny stock promoter ?

How about just putting up,not Davidson's silly right wing quotes about the poor being a nuicance and to help them just breeds more, but his own penny stock touting from Agora Inc. ? Yes I had planned to put links but I am all over the internet trying after years to expose his frauds and those of a massive supposed 'anti-naked shorting' scam that is really used to mask his and his cohorts illegal pump and dump of penny stocks,including in Europe.

Rather than you trolling to be dictator of the Wikipedia how about bringinging in a third party ? I will provide James Davidson's own quotes and links to Agora Inc.,The National Tapayers Union and meetings of Agora.Inc with CIA Tenet for penny stock promotions etc.You can edit it take out 'suckers'or 'marks' and replace it with victims of Agora Inc.'s illegal pump and dump scams if you want to.Do you like Davidson's post 911 deals in Dubai ? As an American I don't.

So I will and have provided some facts,I can provide links.How do you feel about stock fraud and the profits possibly going for international crime ? Have you seen Canterbury of New Zealand's research on Davidson from 1995 ? What do you think about that ? Do you think the Kiwis were being biased as well ? Can you tell me when and where Mr.Davidson was born ? When he graduated from Oxford and how he became a Rhodes scholar ? I will put that in.But you see Mr.Davidson is the one who keeps much out because he apppears to have much to hide.

Do you wish to interview him about his involvement with his admitted right wing causes in Washington D.C. and elsewhere ? I still have an email address that might work from 2004 ? And I will send you our email correspondence but it is on internet a google search for you to find if you were really serious about research. What other wikipedia material have you taken an interst to edit,or more so as you state,to erase entirely ?

He wrote a piece about me himself in Agora Inc. Have you seen it ? Do you want to ? He refers to me as an anonymous poster 'crazy dog' even though he knew who I was and continued lies about penny stocks he promoted and dumped as being 'naked shorted' ? I'm afraid you no nothing about what you are talking about and you yourself should do some research before criticising.How did you come to hear about Mr.Davidson,what brought you to that site ?

Have you googled James Dale Davidson and looked at the namebase.com site ? I actually believe it is Davidson who runs the fraudulent ncans.net but I did not asy so on Wikipedia.Do you believe what he says about 'naked shorting' in penny stocks and do you know his history of international penny stock scams ? You are like one who claims Al Capone is an honest man just because his government sits back and allows him to operate for years and does nothing.

What do you know about his Beltway activities ? Why don't you write something and lets criticise or eulogize that rather than trying to censor an American who pays everyday for James Dale Davidson's frauds and wishes for others to be warned about them ?

Have you seen his own right wing,far right wing,newsmax.com that tried to blame ex CIA Colby's death(Davidson's eployee before his death) on Clinton ? But instead Christopher Ruddy,his British smear writer,discloses someone in their circle predicted Colby's death a month in advance.Have you read any critical reviews of that smear and how Davidson paid a 'handwriting' expert of Oxford whose conclusions contradicted the FBI ? OR HOW RUDDY EVEN LIED ABOUT HIS HANDEDNESS,BEING RIGHT HANDED OR LEFT HANDED TO SUIT HIS SMEAR AND HOW HE WOULD HAVE HELD THE GUN ? I never even say conspiracy only amazing coincidence and I only note it as a fact.

You see I don't know who you are or why you choose to either defend Davidson or censor his critics.How do I know you are a 20 year old student in Finland ?Does anyone at Wikipedia verify your story ?

What I find most presumpyuos about you is the fact that you would seem to have no experience of the U.S.AND THE U.S.GOVERNMENT DAVIDSON HAS BEEN BEHIND THE SCENES OF AND MANIPULATING FOR YEARS. If you are not a victim what is your beef ?

I really don't even know how or where to send this so I'll press save and hope it reaches you.You can send any communication to me by way of endofscam@lycos.com or if there is a means just to continue it here and or bring in a referee that's fine.

Sincerely Tony Ryals

Calm down

Calm down.....I have not "reverted" anything. I added info, and corrected some of his grammatical and spelling errors. WP is a FREE encyclopedia, therefore I do not require prior clearance from anyone to post information. --Gibraltarian 08:53, 10 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Disputed status of Gibraltar

Hi Spangineer. Every one have a real life, which should be more important than that in wikipedia :-) With regard to the blocking of the article, I feel sorry about that, but I understand it pretty sure. The attitude of Gibraltarian here is quite similar to that in es:. Maybe he thinks that there is such an objective POV regarding Gibraltar (which is of course that of him). I could sincerely think that Spanish POV is the real truth, but IMHO it's irrelevant. Wikipedia tell not the truth, but the common POVs without taking party. And that's what Gibraltarian doesn't seem to understand. Regards --Ecemaml 06:49, 11 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Spangineer. As it seems that Gibraltarian may constantly insult me, label my editions, not provide any source and breaking the 3RR, and all of that for free, I'm denouncing his 3RR violation in Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/3RR. I'm a little bit fed-up. Best regards --Ecemaml 09:38, 17 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Wiki Birthday

Award

Wiki birthday to you! Wiki birthday, dear Spangineer! Wiki birthday to you!

Congratulations on your first Wikibirthday at Wikipedia (November 11, 2005.). On behalf of the community, we'd like to thank you for your countless edits in the past year! Keep it coming!.

This Wiki Birthday Balloon was awarded to you by: SoothingR

Wikipediology

I'd like to ask those fellows who have not indicated whether or not they grant permission for a wikibio on them to please do so soon. I'd also appreciate it everyone could expand or create the wikibios for which permission has been granted. The wikibio project simply won't be useful unless fellows actively participate; so I'd like to issue a challenge that each fellow contribute at least one sentence to two wikibios. I'll be on wikibreak for the next week and when I get back there will be prizes in store for the fellows who have the three highest edit counts on wikibios. Thanks. -JCarriker 22:57, 17 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Request for comment

Hi Spangineer,

We are having some difficulties over at Talk:Electrical engineering over which version of the article should be adopted. Essentially the question is whether we stick with an existing version that discusses electronics engineering as a subfield of electrical engineering (while acknowledging they can be treated as being distinct) or adopt another version that limits discussion about electronics engineering. I appreciate it is not your area but I am hoping with enough votes we can quickly end the debate and move forward in the right direction.

Thanks.

Cedars 06:50, 19 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Apologies

For some reason I didn't realize I had unprotected it twice. I thought I had only done it once but the logs bear you out. I apologize. I have no interest in mediating the dispute. --Woohookitty^{(cat scratches)} 09:07, 21 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I will reprotect the page. I will make a note on the protection page, so someone else doesn't do what I did, ok? I do apologize. I'm new to the RfP page and I just got a little hasty. --Woohookitty^{(cat scratches)} 09:31, 21 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Gibraltarian

I've decided to give up until you decide what to do with this absurd matter.

As it seems that Gibraltarian has veto power in Gibraltar-related articles and can break the 3RR whenever he wants (Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/3RR#User:Gibraltarian), deleting information perfectly neutral such as that in Talk:History_of_Gibraltar#..._to_make_it_accurate_and_neutral, not providing any source (all the sources in the articles have been found out by me), pretending that his POV is the NPOV (see how he removes information perfectly sourced about the term "restrictions" in Disputed status of Gibraltar and introduces unsourced statements allegedly by Spanish officials) and constantly insult me (what maybe for you it doesn't matter, but I'm beginning to be fed up with), I'm following with my editions in both Disputed status of Gibraltar/temp and History of Gibraltar/temp.

I have to recognize that I had a too praising vision about en:, but now it seem totally failed. It's also a pity since I wanted to get a NPOV about Gibraltar to unblock the situation also in es:, but I will not be possible... Best regards --Ecemaml 09:37, 21 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Now it's even funnier. I may not even say that the article is disputed. --Ecemaml 10:46, 21 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

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1997 Pacific hurricane season

Looks tons better! That is just how I imagined it. If you resubmit it to FAC, I will support it. — Wackymacs 19:54, 29 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I like how you expanded the lead section. It more adequately summarizes the article. The disambiguation link is an improvement over the verbose paragraph that other Pacific hurricane and typhoon season articles because it is less intrusive to the lead.

However, storm headings are necessary to aid navigation throughout the article because it allows readers to quickly jump to different sections of the article. Every other yearly season article in every other basin has individual storm headings. Month headings may confuse people who have read other season articles. The Blanca picture was on the right to prevent it from pushing the next heading to the middle of the article. The brief retirement section was to prevent the retirement statement from being buried into a section about the names.

You have made many good changes to the season article. Do continue making great changes to other Wikipedia articles. Leave feedback, as I am going to close down the nomination and restart it after Peer Review. Miss Michelle | Talk to Michelle 21:49, 29 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]