User talk:Skomorokh/ג

question relating to recent deletion

Do you happen to know, is there a talk page for discussion by anarchist wikipedians? I looked, but did not find. thanks, Richard Myers (talk) 16:42, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, yes of course, I should have told you. It's at WT:ATF, the talkpage for the Anarchism Task Force, which you are more than welcome to join :) Feel free to post whatever items of interest about wikipedia+anarchism there. Cheers, Skomorokh 16:46, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

Mirrorshades front cover pic

Aleichem shalom, Skomorokh
I would venture to suggest that the Mirrorshades article may possibly be better illustrated by the first English edition of the book than by its Korean translation's cover.
--Shirt58 (talk) 15:18, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

Aloha, Shirt58

A most excellent suggestion, go right ahead. Skomorokh 15:56, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

Image review

I checked the images of Hotel Chevalier again and added my image review to the FAC discussion. The licenses look fine to me except for one minor quibble, which should take little time to address. Finetooth (talk) 01:23, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

Thanks Finetooth, you're a star. Mahalo, Skomorokh 01:33, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

M.I.A.

As an editor who has recently edited M.I.A. (artist), I am asking you to comment on the "Politics" thread at Talk:M.I.A. (artist). Input in the issue from more users would be nice. carl bunderson (talk) (contributions) 18:27, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

Sorry Carl, I assumed this was announcement spam when I saw it first, will take a look in the coming days. Regards, Skomorokh 23:25, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

No problem, thank you Skomorokh. carl bunderson (talk) (contributions) 23:40, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

re What?

O.K. You have removed some content confirmed by her family ("She became interested in acting when her second eldest brother, Trevor Duke Moretz (stage name Trevor Duke), was accepted to the Professional Performing Arts School in New York. Trevor would later become her acting coach and often travels with her during filming."). I know it's unsourced content, but don't remove it. --> Gggh ^talk/_contribs 16:22, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

This is a biography of a living person; only claims supported by reliable sources (such as the one you removed about Moretz's siblings) are appropriate. It is absolutely not okay to consider "her family" an appropriate source. Please review the biographies of living persons policy and observe it in your future editing. Skomorokh 16:26, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

I think the mixup started with a reversal conflict between you and me: you beat me to it, reverting to an earlier version than I did. When I tried to undo my edit as your reversal was correct you beat me to it again. Together it gave off the wrong impression. Jarkeld (talk) 18:32, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I came to the same conclusion about our edits, but did not understand Gggh's revert at the time. All well now. Thanks for stopping by to clarify, Jarkeld. Skomorokh 23:26, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

Jim Bell

My edits came from PACER (Federal Courts Database, and are verifiable at the link I provided. I replaced the reverted edit along with a link to verify edit. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.164.156.211 (talk) 23:37, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

Great, thanks. I know it's annoying to have your changes reverted when you know you're in the right, so I'd recommend citing your sources first time round in future. Cheers, Skomorokh 23:39, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

Thanks...

for this, it was exactly what I was hoping for. Non–pop culture lists at FLC are always a mixed blessing; we need the diversity in topics, but I'm always wary about a lack of scrutiny, especially WRT content. Thanks again, Dabomb87 (talk) 03:13, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

No problem, thanks for the notification, I would never have come across the page otherwise. Featured processes are generally lacking in content reviews vis-a-vis technicalities, I'd agree. Skomorokh 03:16, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

Short film

Hi, Skomorokh! Nice job with Hotel Chevalier. Since it is a short film recently promoted to Featured Article status, I invite you to comment on a discussion about using quotation marks instead of italics for short films. The discussion can be found here. Erik (talk | contribs) 14:39, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

Yo Erik, thanks for the heads-up. Skomorokh 14:46, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

George Orwell bibliography

Please review Let me know if my changes to George Orwell bibliography have met your criticisms (and thanks for airing them.) For what it's worth and if you're interested, I have a long-term goal of getting George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four, this bibliography, and Animal Farm up to featured status and Homage to Catalonia up to good. If you ever want to collaborate on those topics, let me know. (You also wrote that this bibliography is "one of the best I have seen"; did you mean on Wikipedia or of Orwell? If you know of any other publications that I've missed or any more comprehensive bibliographies, I would be very interested in finding out more.) Thanks. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 04:39, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

Yo Justin, hope to be able to review in the next day or so. Cheers, Skomorokh 18:19, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

Hi Skomorokh, can you revisit this one when you get the chance? Thanks, Dabomb87 (talk) 00:09, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Sorry for the delay, will post extensive comments later tomorrow (UTC). Skomorokh 12:49, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Could you take a third look? Thanks, Dabomb87 (talk) 13:33, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

Signed, sealed and delivered. Regards, Skomorokh 23:18, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

Borges

Great to see your additions to Jorge Luis Borges. Thanks Spanglej (talk) 15:25, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

A miniscule improvement compared to what needs doing, but thanks, Spanglej. Skomorokh 18:20, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

New encyclopedism

I removed your prod and the prod2. This probably will be controversial, and involves a whole category, which is also up for deletion. Please send it to WP:AfD, if it is not done already. Bearian (talk) 20:17, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

The whole point of PROD is that you don't deprod unless you believe the article ought to be retained; deprodding for being potentially controversial defeats the purpose of the system. Skomorokh 18:22, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

Anarchism and Anonymous

I do not know of one right off hand (other than personal experience- but that would go against the "No Original Research" rule, amirite?). I'll start looking for one. On a somewhat unrelated note, I have edited Wikipedia before but I just registered my account. I look forward to collaborating with you in the future.

Regards,

TROLL

No worries, sorry for being a rules nazi. Skomorokh 21:44, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

It's cool. I founds me a good source. Check out the latest revision. One thing though, I'm not good enough at wiki markup to get it to display correctly. Could you kindly fix it for me?

Canvassing Votes Discussion

Namaste Ji, Skomorokh,

On August 19, you moved this discussion to the ANI board:

Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/IncidentArchive633#Canvassing_votes

It is entirely evident that the only editor who feels that Mariordo has engaged in unfair canvassing is his accuser, OSX. Is there a way to officially end this discussion and clear Mariordo's good name? Many thanks. Ebikeguy (talk) 14:59, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Yo, I only moved the thread to the appropriate forum; such conflicts are not my area of interest. Regards, Skomorokh 06:04, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Category:New encyclopedism

RE: Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2010 August 23

What about having something like v: User:KYPark/Encyclopaedism/Timeline here? It is ready to be imported. You are welcome to talk at Talk:New encyclopedism#Timeline. Thanks. --KYPark (talk) 06:00, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

The issue for me is that this concept does not seem to have gained a foothold in the scholarly literature [though I would be happy to be contradicted]; this seems all to be interesting yet original research, which is fine for Wikiversity but not for this project. Regards, Skomorokh 06:07, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

ACE2010 General Questions

Please see here. Tony (talk) 08:01, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Will do Tony; expect an email later than tomorrow. Skomorokh 12:49, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for this edit cleaning up the formatting on that article. I was coming back to check on it myself after doing a set of updates to articles, and voila it was already done! :-)--Jimbo Wales (talk) 13:44, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

No worries, your edit showed up on my watchlist and I peered at the link formatting with an almost archeological curiousity. Cheers for the WEF update – small businesses are a much-neglected corner of the wiki. Skomorokh 14:53, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

New Delhi

Your post got me to looking at a few other Indian city articles, and I find that similar "my city is bigger than yours" edits that have crept in to quite a few of them. Would you be able to look around and check some of them. List of most populous metropolitan areas in India is a good reference point (as is List of most populous cities in India); both are well referenced and the population nos should be right on both - except for one source error in the metro list (Nashik is on the source twice). Hyderabad and Ahmedabad are apparently at war currently (I'll fix those two today), I believe Mumbai, Chennai and Bangalore should be ok, but the rest would need a look-in. I normally do a sweep of those around the 30-60 mark on a monthly or so basis as that's where most of these dubious edits come in, but I've been off-wiki for a while and some of these might have been changed unnoticed. cheers. —SpacemanSpiff 12:39, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I did a little digging around the census and came to a similar conclusion. Unfortunately, this is way outside my area of competence (I know nothing of India, watch none of the articles, and am practically innumerate). I'd say your best bet would be WP:INDIA. Skomorokh 12:41, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

Sons of Kyuss

Yes, very notable band, but there are essentially no sources about this demo album. The only source that I've found that even mentions that the group made a demo under the Sons of Kyuss lineup was an article in Billboard and the article doesn't give a track listing or what the album of the demo even was. A notable demo album would be something like Slipknot's Mate. Feed. Kill. Repeat., which has plenty of sources about it. RG (talk) 20:08, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

It is for me a question of article series (or, the proper distribution of material about the subject across articles), rather than isolated notability; Kyuss is a sufficiently notable topic that we would be remiss in not covering all of their works, and the sparse but fundamental information in the Sons of Kyuss article would not survive in the main Kyuss article, being mostly particulars (personnel, track names, lengths etc.). For a topic with no controversy associated with it, and which is mandated by our duty to comprehensiveness, the primary source suffices, I think. Regards, Skomorokh 14:46, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

Mary Ann Jackson

We seem to have been reading the same ticket. I've removed the information and started a thread at WP:BLPN#Mary Ann Jackson. Regards,  Sandstein  21:56, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

Yes, I didn't want to lock/respond until I'd gotten an idea of where the fault lay, but I probably ought to have removed the claim at first glance. Will comment at BLPN, thanks. Skomorokh 22:06, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

Temperament images

Howdy. I saw your removal of the emoticon image at Four Temperaments this morning, and wondered if perhaps you have any background in this topic (I don't, just curiosity), and might like to investigate further? The image, in various forms, has been in the article for years, and variants are used in many other language editions, via these files:

• commons:File:Four temperament.PNG
• commons:File:Four temperament b.PNG
• commons:File:Four temperaments.svg
• commons:File:Four temperaments - 2.svg
• commons:File:Five temperaments.png

Possibly, they're derived from these 2 images or similar?

• commons:File:Lavater1.jpg
• commons:File:Alletemp.jpg

or possibly (hopefully) they come from a textbook or similar?

The first of the emoticon images was uploaded in 2006 by User:Noe (now editing as User:Nø) so he might be able to help?

Just a potentially interesting tangent for hunting. That's all I could find. If you don't have time/interest, I'll have a longer try myself, sometime later on. Cheers. -- Quiddity (talk) 18:34, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

You always lose some subtlety when trying to illustrate complex concepts with simple diagrams, but I think these go a little too far and could be misleading. Alas, I don't have the specific expertise required for depicting the temperaments accurately. Skomorokh 12:31, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

No worries. I've asked at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Psychology#Four Temperaments image. Thanks anyway. :) -- Quiddity (talk) 20:20, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

Good luck with it, and sorry for being the person who comes armed with a problem without offering a solution (I hate that guy!). Skomorokh 20:23, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

Nono, you're the guy who pointed out that the emperor might be wearing an invisible hat. That guy's fine!

Just for your curiosity (you're a person of many interests), I've been occasionally poking at this for a few years. Mostly as an attempt to educate myself on the historical origins of these topics, so that I can better respond to discussions about astrology (so many hippy/"spiritual" friends!). And also just as someone interested in narratology and reductionism. Feel free to poke at, ignore, or eyeroll. ;) -- Quiddity (talk) 22:03, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

Guidance needed

Hi Skomorokh,

Long ago you welcomed me to Wikipedia and said to ask here if I had any questions. Well, I've got one now.

Over at Talk:Morality there has been a very difficult dispute with an extremely tendentious editor, User:Faust, who seems to completely ignore the concept of consensus and continually filibusters and edit-wars against every other editor involved. He violated 3RR, but in response to the 3RR notification the page got protected -- on Faust's broken, unsourced, even grammatically incorrect version -- and all other editors were warned against reverting as well.

I am at a loss for where to go from here, as it is clear that Faust will never listen to consensus, and now even unanimous action of all other editors can't keep his faulty version off the page. There is an RfC about it in place but it has not had any response, and I doubt any number of further comments will have any effect on Faust anyway.

Faust is involved in similarly tendentious disputes elsewhere, such as Talk:Deontological ethics (in which I am also involved) and Talk:Teleology (which I am only observing), and the general consensus of other editors across Wikipedia (at the 3RR about Morality, and at an ANI section on something else) seems to be that he is a problematic editor all around.

But I don't know what to do about any of this. Can you help?

Thanks, --Pfhorrest (talk) 21:26, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

I'm very sorry Pfh, I have very limited time for Wikipedia right now. If you haven't already, try discussing with Faust directly, dropping a line at the philosophy project/ask for a third opinion/another of the options listed at Wikipedia:Dispute resolution or if those don't work, give a concise and neutral summation of the problems at WP:ANI [tell them I sent you]. If trouble is still brewing when I get a chance to resume activity here, I promise I will try to help resolve matters. Regards, Skomorokh 19:12, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

Seasons Greetings

Chzz, your ecumenical and tasteful selection of religious obervances merit praise to the same degree that your interior design skills appal – navy and yellow, really?! Yarr, Skomorokh 19:12, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

e-mail?

Would it be possible to send you an e-mail? ---RepublicanJacobite_{The'FortyFive'} 14:57, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

Of course, any time. Special:Emailuser/Skomorokh Skomorokh 19:12, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

Catching up with encyclopaedia matters today, should expect a reply later on this. Skomorokh 13:50, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, I appreciate it. I have not had time for any big projects here on Wiki, but that is one I would like to get sorted out. Cheers! ---RepublicanJacobite_{The'FortyFive'} 15:02, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

A feeling

I'm the facilitator of Politics of Piracy, a new course in the Public Policy Project. The class is sectioned into 5 categories of focus for article improvement; copyleft, filesharing, historical cases, collaborative production, and hacking. That last is the area in which I will be concentrating, and the most congruous to feeling you've tried to create on your user page. Logical?

Greetings, Maximilian, and sorry for the delay in getting back to you. To respond, I might sympathise with the romantic figure of the hacker, but I know nothing of what she does. I would of course be happy to help in whichever capacity is required, but don't expect any technical literacy! Skomorokh 13:50, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

What is gatago.com

I think you added a ref here that points to gatago.com but when I try to go to the page it says the server is busy. I don't think it's reliable anyways so I'm going to remove it. But just in case it is, I thought maybe you could clarify. Thank you. Devourer09 02:36, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

I merely altered the formatting from an inline external link like this, to an inline citation

like this

I know nothing of the site itself. Best, Skomorokh 13:50, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

Haha, oh. I thought you added it. I was going through the history to try and figure out who the person was that added it. It took me 30 minutes of clicking links and using a psuedo binary search technique. Do you know of any tools that make it easier? Preferably browser based tools. Devourer09 (t·c) 20:30, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

No worries, I know it's a chore to try and track down such information. WikiBlame is the only tool that springs to mind though I can't vouch for its effectiveness. Best of luck, Skomorokh 21:46, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

I saw WikiBlame before but I didn't take it seriously. That tool is remarkably powerful. I just started using it after you suggested it. You should give it a try sometime. Devourer09 (t·c) 16:46, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

I remember dismissing it at the time I came across it too; thanks for the tip. Skomorokh 16:57, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

ACE2010 coordination page

Hi, I've created it, incompetently, of course. It will need the attention of someone who knows what they're talking about in terms of page creation.

I'm going to use last year's election page as it was just before the start of voting as the basis of a draft for the ACE2010 page. If we're to start the call for nominations in early November, and the voting in the second half of November, we still have more than three weeks to prepare.

I think there should be call for volunteers at the Village Pump. Shall I post one?

Emailing you, too. Tony (talk) 13:41, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for taking the initiative here Tony; I will be strongly focused on this as time is running short. Shall email shortly. Skomorokh 13:50, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

I really can't see the point in matching the predecessor by including a month—a very undesirable one, too, locking us in to lateness. I purposely removed it. Tony (talk) 23:38, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

It's undesirable to abandon a prevailing convention midway through, especially when it is there for good reason — elections haven't necessarily been and will not necessarily be annual events. Skomorokh 23:43, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

Not really midway, is it? Two weeks earlier would still be five weeks from now. Those who commented did not want it as a pre-Xmas rush. I think there's every reason to improve, update, modify, year by year. BTW, it is ensconced as an annual event. Tony (talk) 05:58, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, I was unclear; the convention I refer to is this one. It is very likely that elections at another time of the year or with a shorter interval than one year since the last will become necessary at some point – as the recent history of the Russian and German ArbComs indicate. It would be poor planning to have "Arbitration Committee Elections 2010", then need another election the following June after crisis or depletion (there were only 8 of 18 arbs active on the climate change case), and the usual one in December (giving "2010", June 2011, "2011"). Best to stick to the proper specificity for clarity. Skomorokh 07:29, 12 October 2010 (UTC)