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Olmert's conditions

The conditions were summarised and inserted into the "Possibel escalation" section, and so it is now redundant. If you believe that it should be included in the intro, then use the summarised (and BBC sourced) version please. Cheers, TewfikTalk 17:48, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

ORBCW incident

Explain to me, what's the nafka mina who's a ger, who did whose geyrus, etc., would ya? That was vile and uncalled for, even if you two have a history. I am letting you know, bli neder, that if you pull anything else of this nature, I will block you per WP:NPA - consider this your only warning. Please contribute productively - or not at all. - CrazyRussian talk/email 02:24, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

  • It has nothing to do with him being a ger, but I know his history and I know the reasons why he was banned from a certain forum. If I could show you the posts he posted you would also be hesitant in letting him edit/add articles about Jewish leaders. Yossiea 13:07, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Rosh yeshivas

Hi Yossiea, please see American/Israeli/European Rosh yeshivas for merging

Many thanks, Nesher 14:46, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Email

Hi Yossiea: I noticed that you have not enabled your Wikipedia "E - mail this user" feature. However if you are able to, could you Email me [1] via my user page. Thanks. IZAK 02:31, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Please explain.

Please explain what exactly you have against Authentic Judaism. --רח"ק | Talk | Contribs 22:16, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

I have nothing against authentic Judaism. You're using a weasel word. Just because I think Daniel needs a source for his quote doesn't mean anything. Yossiea 12:49, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Conduct at Modern attempts

Just a reminder going forward, since I have unprotected the article now: Please refrain from undoing other people's edits repeatedly. If you do so again in this article, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia under the three-revert rule, which states that nobody may revert a single page more than three times in 24 hours. (Note: this also means editing the page to reinsert an old edit. If the effect of your actions is to revert back, it qualifies as a revert.) Thank you. --Aguerriero (talk) 15:41, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Requests for comment‎

Don't comments about this user need to be verifiable? Do you have concrete, recent, examples about this problem from wikipedia? --Historian2 14:26, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

Haredim and Zionism

Your help would be appreciated on the talk page for the Haredim and Zionism article.--Meshulam 22:19, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

Noahide

Hi, please join in the discussion on the Noahide Laws talk page about cleaning it up etc. Thanks! Chavatshimshon 08:50, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Calling other edits vandalism and 3RRV

Although content-wise I sympathize with your edits here they are not vandalism but a content dispute. You are technically over 3RR but I am not going to block since you seemed to have a misunderstanding of what constitutes vandalism. However, I strongly suggest that you read in detail Wikipedia:Vandalism and WP:3RR. If you continue I will have to block you. JoshuaZ 22:20, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

If the user is a sock of a banned user you should revert simply with that in the edit summary and not get into any content issues. What user is this in any event? JoshuaZ 22:30, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
The user is Daniel575, you can read the sock-puppet notice I put up as well as the H-Z talk page, where he just violated 3RR as well. Yossiea 22:31, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
Sigh. How unfortunate. I'll block him and revert the edit. JoshuaZ 22:35, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
Thanks, but I also added a request for semi-protection so that he can't come on under a new IP, as he will. (I "know" him from another forum where he was banned 5 times as he kept coming back under different names, so I know that he can't stay away.) Yossiea 22:36, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

IP

was blocked. But on a personal level, I think the witchhunt you conducted against him was disgusting. He was always opinionated - but you could have worked with him if you had chosen to. - crz crztalk 19:05, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

  • It's not a witch hunt. I happen to have some of these pages on my watch list and I noticed his edits. I have tried working with him, both on this site and on another site. He is not someone you can work with. If he would allow other people's opinions from being presented that would be one thing, but he doesn't. He monopolizes and scares away other editors. Yossiea 19:09, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

Tefillin

BS"D

We have the same thing for payos, btw. If you let it go for payos(and if crzrussian was still here he would agree with me because he refined that section of the payos article) you should let it go for Tefillin. and dont go to the payos article and remove that, I wasnt the only person to work on that one.

Respond on my talk page relating to this.

--Shuli 20:46, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

I wasn't going for full overhaul explaining the differences in the shins on the shel rosh, the different keshers on the shel rosh, the different sixe yud keshers on the shel yad and all that, just how they wrap the shel yad.

--Shuli 20:55, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Question re Project Israel

Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Israel/Statement Itayb 11:15, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Infobox Rebbe

I would welcome suggestions for improving the Infobox. --Redaktor 22:55, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Welcome to VandalProof!

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Ortonville, Minnesota

I've taken the revision of Ortonville, Minnesota back further, as there was still vandalism remaining on the page. Lcarscad 17:20, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

What is this message i keep getting popped up?

I haven't edited any pages in months? It links to some article about beyonce knowles????

Gary Bettman

I blanked that section because it was so POV, and badly needed cleanup. I don't vandalise Wikipedia. I planning a rewrite, that outlines a few obstacles during his tenure, but not to the point it went. I read it, and what the message of section was to me was that Gary Bettman sucks. Booo!!! So, anyhow, I'm preparing an overhaul(WikiProject Ice Hockey lists as one of the top cleanup articles), and my edit wasn't vandalism. The Evil Clown Please review me! 20:16, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

  • You still don't blank a section. Have you discussed it on the talk page? Blanking is vandalism.
Yes. It has been discussed the since the beginning of March. People called for the complete elimination of it([2]), and I have stepped up done the action (I didn't fully kill it, but reduced it to three sourced examples.) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Evilclown93 (talkcontribs) 20:25, 18 March 2007 (UTC).
OK. Yossiea (talk) 20:26, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
I'll get rid of my "warning". The Evil Clown Please review me! 20:27, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for making a report about 80.99.230.56 (talk · contribs · block log) on Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism. Reporting and removing vandalism is vital to the functioning of Wikipedia and all users are encouraged to revert, warn, and report vandalism. However, administrators are generally only able to block users if they have received a recent final warning (one that mentions that the user may be blocked) and they have recently vandalized after that warning was given. The reported user has not yet been blocked because it appears this has not occurred yet. If this user continues to vandalize even after their final warning, please report them to the AIV noticeboard again. Thank you! TigerShark 20:20, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Well, that didn't take too long. :) Yossiea (talk) 20:23, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Neturei_Karta

This is nonesense. Adding information is different from vandalism. I've used the references that were in the article. Stop attacking on me. --217.219.236.17 19:31, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia New York Meet-Up

Howdy! Please come to the First Annual New York Wikipedian Central Park Picnic. R.S.V.P. @ Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC --David Shankbone 14:38, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

Changes warning

Hi, I received a warning for changing an article about Weebl and Bob. This edit may have come from the same IP address, but I can assure you that it was not me, as I have a dynamic IP address each time my router disconnects.

The only thing I can tell you is to register and get a screenname. Otherwise, if someone edits on your IP, even though it might not be you, it's still the same IP that you use. Yossiea (talk) 13:23, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Edit's to the The Chacham Tzvi's Descendants Section

You recently edited the section to add the Divrei Chaim, Rabbi Chaim Halberstam to the list of the Chacham Tzvi's descendants. The previously listed descendants were his children and grandchildren. There are a number of generations missing between the Chacham Tzvi and the Divrai Chaim. At that generation there were hundreds of descendants of the Chacham Tzvi (see the Klilas Yofi, Ir Hatzedek and the much more recent Unbroken Chain II for a more detailed list). If you feel that the Divrei Chaim belongs in the article, please briefly list how he is a descendant. Thanks

KosherJava 17:42, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Yeshayah Rosenberger

Regarding the speedy delete - first of all, it really was speedy; within a couple of hours it disapeared. Unless I would have monitored the computer 24/7, I could never have stopped it. Surely more time should be given for such a thing. Secondly, the article is dealing with one of the Eidah Chareidis, of which at least half the members have pages. This is the main Chareidi Beis Din in the world, and its 5 members should have a page each. Whilst I agree that more imformation was needed on the page, this is something to be worked on, rather than a speedy delete. Why is this member any less notable than the others ie Avrohom Yitzchok Ulman or Meir Brandsdorfer? Please reply on my talk page. Thank you. Lobbuss 18:10, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

When did you put the tag on? I only found out about it too late, even though I check here everyday. Also, just because someone is notable doesn't mean it's easy to find information on him. Maybe you'd like to contibute? Please reply on my talk page Lobbuss 18:19, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Does everyone here look at wiki 24/7? If so, don't you think 2 hours is too short a time to let someone put a {{hangon}} tag? Gut shabbos Lobbuss 09:29, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

I didn't delete the page. I just tagged it.

re User Yidisheryid report at AIV

I have blocked the above user for 1 hour, with the suggestion that they discuss their preferred edit at the article talkpage. You may wish to initiate this discussion at User talk:Yidisheryid, so that there is less disruption to the article when the block expires. LessHeard vanU 14:05, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

My condolences for having to deal with this infuriating fool. Reinistalk 14:28, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Yossiea, I am a little concerned you're starting to act in a similar manner to Yidisheryid - how are your actions today any better or worse than his? I am making no judgement at all with regards to whose version of the article is better, just to your actions. I've commented more on this on Talk:Haredim and Zionism. Neil  14:32, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
See my comments on that page. Yossiea (talk) 14:35, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
It looks like another admin, Avi, is going to try and resolve the problem. As he knows a lot more about Judaism-related topics then I do, this seems logical. I would urge you to not fall into the same behaviour as YY, though. Good luck resolving this, let me know if you need any advice from a neutral. Neil  15:19, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
Niel, u r evidently not neutral here for blocking only me and not him, i understand that was Friday and u did not know the issue here, but i would argue that u r not partial, especially u r offering him help, and add that up to all those please of mine on your talk page on my talk page and in your email and on the articles talk page u should remove slanderers POV were ignored by u so something isn't smelling good here, but thanks anyway.--יודל 15:56, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Welcome!

User:RabbiAdam

Guess who this is. --Yeshivish 17:04, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I saw that and I made mention of it in the original sockpuppet request. But I'm not sure if I should put another sockpuppet case, but you can if you wish. I am also wondering why this user has such an interest in that topic. Yossiea (talk) 17:28, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
I looked through his contribution history and it seems that just before he started with this messianic nonsense he was involved in this nasty Haredi/Zionest fight with Daniel. Yidisher was editing articles with the premise that most Haredim are not anti-zionest and Daniel was editing on the oppisite premise. It looks like Daniel won. Yidisher might have been right but he did not go about his business using WP rules. In any case, I suspect that the loss pushed him over the edge and he decided to "screw everyone" and start with this messianic stuff.
I also saw the Weinberger article and thought about nominating it for deletion. I left it alone, however, figuring that it's preferable that he's involved with Weinberger-like articles then with... --Yeshivish 18:01, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
Yep, and I am also privy to off-wiki emails where he really gets off on the messianic bit claiming that it's better for an irreligious Jew to be in with them than to stay irreligious. I just hope he either tones down, or loses interest in his fad for disrupting Wikipedia. I can't believe I have to watch an article on Avigdor Miller to prevent him from ruining it. Sadly, this is one reason why I think Wiki won't be considered authoritative. If people are scared away from editing, then the articles will reflect the winning view and not necessarily the NPOV.

Hi, there is currently a discussion about the notability of Rabbi Shraga Hager your insight on this would greatly be appreciated[3]. Have a beautiful day--יודל 13:10, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

I agree on your edits on the hasidim and zionism article i don't know why user Avi says lies in my name please don't listen to him on whatever he says in my name.--יודל 16:40, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Halakha

Please explain your edit to Halakha. What was revealed to the Jewish people at Sinai? --Redaktor 07:42, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Like I wrote in the edit summary, the Torah was revealed to the Jewish people. Halacha l'moshe misinai is a separate category, that is not the Torah. Yossiea (talk) 14:17, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

3D Projection archive revoke

I'm not sure what to do, I archived the discussion page for 3d-projection but you revoked the edit saying that the archive didn't work. I was about to paste the link to Talk:3D_projection/Archive1. I would have re-done the edit but don't want to tread on your toes.

Stephen. Stestagg 19:07, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

By all means, go ahead. I saw that you wrote the archive but I didn't find a link to it anywhere. But the page itself is small, I don't know if there's even a need for an archive, but I'm not involved in that article so you can do with it as you please. Yossiea (talk) 19:41, 11 September 2007

(UTC)

Thanks, I don't like just deleting others' comments. It's all resolved now. Stestagg 13:40, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Please reconsider your nomination

Hi Yossiea: Please re-read the Association for Jewish Outreach Programs article in its entirety and you will see that I have thoroughly Wikified and re-wriiten it with lots of new info, and moved it in the direction of a more critical article. I have added over twenty new citations including two key ones where AJOP was discussed in major Jewish communal and academic forums, see Association for Jewish Outreach Programs#Connection with Haredi Judaism. I have added an AJOP as an international Jewish resource section, based on painstaking research and not from "spam" or "blogs" and citing each link in detail. I have also added information about AJOP's origins, and where it fits into the broader scheme of things in the Orthodox world. Thank you for giving this matter your utmost attention, and I sincerely hope that based on the latest version of the article you will reconsider and withdraw your nomination at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/AJOP which I believe was done in too much haste. Thanks again. Sincerely, IZAK 08:13, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the major fixups, I have removed the AFD. Gmar Tov! Yossiea (talk) 15:08, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
Isak's editing of the article is not considered any improvement, he deleted all non-affiliated sources that do not serve as Kiruv workers and replaced it with allot of words, so this is now more important the discussion to delete the article please do not close discussions that other have asked to be held.--יודל 15:16, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
I think you are making zero sense. He improved the article greatly, including sources for tons of stuff. If YOU now think the article needs to be deleted, then make your own AFD. My AFD was withdrawn. Yossiea (talk) 15:17, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
I have made that AFD just like you. u cannot close it--יודל 15:21, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
Of course I can close it. I made the AFD and I can withdraw the nom. You voted to keep so I'm not sure what you have a problem with. Yossiea (talk) 15:24, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
Furthermore, the AFD is closed, the tag states "Do not Modify." If you have a problem, bring it to deletion review. But again, you voted to keep, so I'm not sure what your problem is. Yossiea (talk) 15:25, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
I am allowed to change my vote, that the whole reason of that page to change minds, and i am allowed to second your AFD so in essence the AFD is still opened because you cannot close it once u r not the only one requesting the discussion.--יודל 15:28, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
That's not how it works. If you want it deleted, open up your own AFD. My AFD was satisfied when Izak modified the page to make my AFD nom irrelevant. And I can't believe this, but you now want the page deleted? Yossiea (talk) 15:29, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
Its not your afd anymore since i have seconded the request for deletion long before u closed it--יודל 15:31, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
Irrelevant. I nominated the page for AFD, the page no longer warrants an AFD in my nominating opinion. If you now want it deleted, open up your own new AFD. It's as simple as that. Yossiea (talk) 15:33, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
I also nominated it for deletion long before you closed it so the page isn't anymore yours then mine.--יודל 15:44, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
You didn't nominate it for deletion. I did. Just start your own AFD if you really want it deleted. Yossiea (talk) 15:45, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
Yes indeed i did nominate it for deletion. stop telling me that i did not do it when i did it--יודל 15:48, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
Last comment: You didn't nominate it for deletion. I created the page, I nominated it. That's a fact. If you now want to nominate it, then create your own AFD or go to deletion review. Wikipedia has procedures and policies for a reason. Stop harassing me and following me around. You are violating WP:STALK Yossiea (talk) 15:52, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
first of all stop with the personal attacks never do i post more on talk pages then u, arnt i allowed to answer your arguments and show how false they are, what is talk pages meant if not for talking?! It is u who closed a page that i have reqwested just like u to be nominated for deletion. And to the point i request u stop telling me what i did and what not, i say that i did request that page nominated for deletion and u say i lie, i say its not a lie look at the edit history and you will see my request[4], please stop distorting the facts and will not feel impotent to defend myself--יודל 15:57, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Tablebooking

Speedy deletion of Tablebooking

A tag has been placed on Tablebooking, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia per CSD g11.

Dear Yossiea,

You dont give time to move the article! I want to know how can I move the article to the existing category "Internet" or "Internet Companies", please let me know how...urgently. Can you do that please? And then I can discuss and talk about the article if still is nor ok for Wiki...!

thanks a lot!

Set-Angel 16:36, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

My AfD

Thanks for supporting my successful RfA, which closed at 63 supports and 1 opposed. I appreciate it and hope to do my best. I especially want to thank Shalom for the nomination, DGG for the encouragement, and Jokestress for welcoming me. Bearian 13:17, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

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Restored Church of God

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Daniel575?

I have a feeling User:Motz5768 is User:Daniel575. Should anything be done? He always makes it so obvious it's laughable! Chesdovi 13:18, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Oish, I think it's him, but I'll let someone else do the sockpuppet investigation. Last time I did it, I got accused of being on a witch hunt. I would let Izak and Avi know, they might be able to help you better. Yossiea (talk) 14:25, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

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Rabbi Avrohom Yitzchok Ulman AfD

Hi Yossiea: Looks like you were too much in a hurry to delete an article about Rav Avrohom Yitzchok Ulman a very notable posek in Jerusalem. I know you are upset at User:Daniel575 (most normal people are) but he did contribute worthy material about Haredi and Hasidic Judaism to Wikipedia which needs to be preserved and not deleted, especially if it is of a non-controversial nature. You could have placed a note to request an update with the article at WP:JUDAISM. Sometimes, minor personalities should have their bios pulled from Wikipedia, but with famous rabbonim, even though there might not be enough good info right away, you need to show more patience and not jump the gun. Otherwise it may seem that you have your own POV agenda here to eliminate certain rabbis. So please take care in the future, as you have done this quite a few times already. Best wishes, IZAK 12:34, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

I didn't jump any gun. The article was tagged since Feb. 2007 and I just put the AFD up. All I wrote is that there are no sources and most of the article is OR. Yossiea (talk) 14:32, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

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YM at AJOP

I reverted back to my edits on the information about Rabbi Yaakov Menken. I verified with him that he was never an employee of AJOP and that AJOP's early role in Internet outreach was reflected in endorsement and not active pioneering.Shivisi (talk) 15:24, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

See the talk page. Yossiea (talk) 15:34, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

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Idea for Talmud articles

Hi Yosiea: I am reposting the following request from User Sh76us (talk · contribs) on my user talk page for wider notification:

I was thinking of trying to stimulate development of a series of articles on Gemara concepts and doctrines, maybe to help children or newcomers to Gemara with explanations of some fundamental concepts that recur throughout the Gemara. Some examples might be articles on Yiush, Chazakah, Ta'aninun (as in "Ta'aninun L'Yoresh"), Eidim Zomemin (forgive my awful transliterations), Migu, etc., etc. Maybe we could even create a category or subcategory for it. I created Breira in this vein. As I don't have the experience or expertise in Wikipedia to know what to do to best develop this idea, I figured I'd come to you for your opinions on: (1) whether it's a good idea; and (2) How to best go about implementing it. Thanks Sh76us (talk) 15:56, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Centralized discussion at: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Judaism#Idea for Talmud articles. Thank you. IZAK (talk) 03:36, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Dan575

The page was already tagged with {{sockpuppeteer|proven}}, adding the plain tag is overkill :) -- Avi (talk) 03:40, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

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Agreement with Shirahadasha

Hi Yossiea: Thanks for your attention. See User talk:Shirahadasha#I have agreed to your proposal where I notify User Shirahadasha (talk · contribs)'s agreeing to Shira's proposal at Wikipedia:Requests for comment/IZAK2#Proposed intermediate verdict 3 (and I still hold by Wikipedia:Requests for comment/IZAK2#Proposed intermediate verdict 2). What are your thoughts on the matter? Thanks. IZAK (talk) 16:47, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Endorsing new proposal

Hi Yossiea: Thank you for giving this matter your serious attention. I wanted to let you know that I have now endorsed the latest "Proposed intermediate verdict 3.1" at Wikipedia:Requests for comment/IZAK2#Proposed intermediate verdict 3.1. Thanks, IZAK (talk) 16:52, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

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Dave McCoy

I don't think this article should be speedily deleted. While I will admit that I am an avid snowboarder at Mammoth, so are hundreds of thousands of other people from around the world. If you ever go to the resort you will notice McCoy is practically worshiped as a deity there. He definitely deserves an article and I think that it will quickly be expanded.- Moshe Constantine Hassan Al-Silverburg | Talk 18:29, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

It's possible, but a one word sentence is not enough for an encyclopedia. Furthermore, "but do not remove this notice from pages that you have created yourself." Yossiea (talk) 20:04, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
I know its not enough for an article, that is why it is a stub. It is simply there to be expanded. I have been editing here for years and I know that it will be deleted unless the administrator who comes across it is a skier or snowboarder. Just give it a chance to be expanded.- Moshe Constantine Hassan Al-Silverburg | Talk 20:07, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
Very well. I added ski stub info to the page. Yossiea (talk) 20:16, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
Thanks buddy.- Moshe Constantine Hassan Al-Silverburg | Talk 21:58, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

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HoPC thanks YOU

I don't know that your Hatzolah edit summary fits classic WP descriptions, but it sure got me rolling. 199.184.38.5 (talk) 21:06, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

I've undone this edit you made. The removal wasn't vandalism, the material was spun out to Case studies of Brown-Sequard syndrome. The user probably should have mentioned it in their edit summary. Regards, Guest9999 (talk) 17:07, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. I was about to "warn" the user, but then I noticed that something was a little fishy about the edit and I went to look into it, but then real life came calling. Yossiea (talk) 17:21, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Your rollback request

Hello Yossiea, I have granted your account rollback in accordance with your request. Please remember that rollback is for reverting vandalism/spam, and that misuse of the tool, either by revert-warring with other users, or simply reverting edits you disagree with, can lead to it being removed. For practice, you may wish to see Wikipedia:New admin school/Rollback. Good luck. Acalamari 17:40, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. I will use it wisely. Yossiea (talk) 17:56, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
In accordance to your recent dispute, please only use this tool in clear cases of vandalism, not info you do not disagree with. Leujohn (talk) 10:30, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

New Jersey Hatzolah proposal

There are Hatzolah organizations in many towns and cities in the state of New Jersey. They have supported each other fraternally in various ways.

  • Clifton: Hatzolah of Passaic/Clifton EMS, shared with Passaic. This Hatzolah uses the Lakewood Hatzolah posek, HaRav Shmuel Meir Katz Shlita. This Hatzolah is geographically near Union City, and can provide extra coverage for them.
  • Deal: Chevra Hatzalah Jersey Shore, primarily serving the year-round Sephardic community in the Deal area (Deal, West Deal, Long Branch), but expands to cover additional Jersey Shore communities in warmer months. They loaned a spare ambulance to Passaic/Clifton for about six months in 2007-2008, to help start the organization.
  • Elizabeth: Hatzolah of Union County, also covers Hillside. Often shares classes with Passaic/Clifton, and has supplied community event coverage to assist Passaic/Clifton. Union County is geographically and organizationally separate from Union City.
  • Hillside: This community is contiguous with Elizabeth. The entire community leadership, including Hatzolah, is combined. Hillside is the smaller, more upscale part of the community.[1]
  • Jersey Shore: This is the official name of the branch in Deal. There are a total of seven municipalities covered by Chevra Hatzolah Jersey Shore.[2] This Hatzalah is the only Sephardic Hatzalah, and one of only two using this spelling (transliteration) in New Jersey.
  • Lakewood: The largest branch in New Jersey. Unique to New Jersey, Lakewood has a Paramedic (ALS) unit. The ALS unit is owned and run by MONOC, but the Paramedics are also Lakewood Hatzolah members, and the ambulance was donated by Hatzolah Lakewood to MONOC. This unusual arrangement meets New Jersey's strict hospital-based ALS rules, while giving Hatzolah its own ALS coverage. Also unique, Lakewood has its own Rescue (extrication) unit. The rescue unit has also performed a demonstration of its capabilities at an event organized by Hatzolah of Passaic/Clifton.
  • Passaic: Is contiguous with Clifton. The larger part of the single Passaic/Clifton Orthodox Jewish community lives in Passaic, and Hatzolah of Passaic/Clifton, covering both parts of the community, is primarily based in Passaic, with some members and management in Clifton.
  • Union City: Hatzolah of Union City, is run out of Yeshivas Sanz-Klausenberg, which is the center of the Chasidic community in Union City. It is the only Chasidic Hatzolah in New Jersey. Union City is located in Hudson County, and is not related to Union County. This Hatzolah is very close to Passaic/Clifton, and can provide extra coverage for them. Union City members sometimes attend Passaic/Clifton events.
Looks good, I would just move the Clifton down and leave it as Passaic/Clifton, and comment that the Clifton area is the area immediately bordering Passaic, or something like that. Also, I believe HOPC has their own rabbinical board and doesn't use Lakewood. (Even if it does, the Rabbinic board might use them, but HOPC uses their rabbis. I don't know if it's even necessary to include that.) One thing I noticed is that it is very HOPC oriented. I don't know if that's an issue but it is something to look out for. Yossiea (talk) 15:39, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

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Dov Hikind/Twinkle

Keep Twinkle off this article and apply your personal attention if you mean to suppress my contribution. Hikind conducted a press conference to announce the action you are styling "non-notable." If you persist in intervening here, I will press the matter to third-party resolution.--Joe (talk) 01:16, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion declined: Fashion Fantasy Game

Hello Yossiea, and thanks for your work patrolling new changes. I am just informing you that I declined the speedy deletion of Fashion Fantasy Game - a page you tagged - because: Not unambiguously promotional. Please review the criteria for speedy deletion before tagging further pages. If you have any questions or problems, please let me know. –Juliancolton | Talk 21:45, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

Speedy deletion tag removed: Beth Rivkah Ladies College

Hello Yossiea, and thanks for your work patrolling new changes. I am just informing you that I removed the speedy deletion tag on Beth Rivkah Ladies College - a page you tagged - because: Schools which include the high school grades are always notable. {{csd-a7}} does not apply to schools. Please review the criteria for speedy deletion before tagging further pages. If you have any questions or problems, please let me know. – Eastmain (talk) 15:58, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

Chabad on Wikipedia arbitration request

Since you have been kind enough to comment at the unresolved WP:COI case at Wikipedia:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard/User:Yehoishophot Oliver, you may wish to know that it has now been nominated for arbitration. Feel free to review at Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration#Chabad movement editors and, if you wish to do so, enter your statement and any other material you wish to submit to the Arbitration Committee. Additionally, the following resources may be of use—

Thank you for your input and patience, IZAK (talk) 09:25, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

An Arbitration case in which you commented has been opened, and is located here. Please add any evidence you may wish the Arbitrators to consider to the evidence sub-page, Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Chabad movement/Evidence. Please submit your evidence within one week, if possible. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Chabad movement/Workshop.

On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, Lankiveil (speak to me) 07:25, 9 January 2010 (UTC)

Chabad movement evidence

Would you please look at Wikipedia talk:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Chabad movement/Evidence and rewrite/reformat as and if appropriate your evidence to answer Fritzpoll? Thanks. On behalf of the Arbitration Committee Dougweller (talk) 18:30, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

Re: January 10

Arteyu ? Blame it on me ! 17:52, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

Wikiout

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Motion to dismiss or keep the Chabad editors case

Hi Yossi: A discussion has started if the Chabad editors case should be dismissed or should remain open. As someone who has been involved in the discussions leading up to this ArbCom case and presented evidence you should be informed of this motion and have the right to explain if you agree or disagree with this proposed motion and why. Please see Wikipedia talk:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Chabad movement/Evidence#Contemplated motion to dismiss. Thank you, IZAK (talk) 06:51, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

Re: 66.211.148.2

On January 27, 2010, you placed the following warning on this "user's" Talk Page: "[top hand nuvola.svg] This is the last warning you will receive for your disruptive edits, such as those you made to Methanol. If you vandalize Wikipedia again, you will be blocked from editing. Yossiea (talk) 17:38, 27 January 2010 (UTC)"
As you can see, the user is still vandalizing articles all over the place, and started doing so almost immediately after the last one year ban ended in December 2009.
How does one re-institute a ban on this IP address? William J. 'Bill' McCalpin (talk) 19:57, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

You have to notify the admins at the ARV. I'll take a look at his contributions and see if I can do it. Yossiea (talk) 20:27, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
The account is now blocked for 5 years. Yossiea (talk) 20:43, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
Thanks!
William J. 'Bill' McCalpin (talk) 21:17, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

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  1. ^ "About Us". Elizabeth, New Jersey: Hatzalah of Union County. Retrieved 2009-03-30.
  2. ^ "Chevra HATZALAH Home Page". Deal, New Jersey: Chevra Hatzalah Jersey Shore. Retrieved 2009-03-30.