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A barnstar for you!

	The Technical Barnstar
	For the creation of Module:ACImplNotes/Proposal/Automatic, which is used through Template:ACImplNotes/Proposal/Automatic and with Template:ACImplNotes on proposed decision pages, resulting in automatic updates such as [1] vs. [2]. I thought we'd need a bot for this, and noone ever wrote one. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 01:51, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, ToBeFree. (If only I could get as many barnstars from everyone else in total as I've gotten from you!) The module/template still needs some work — such as on what to do when the specified section name matches 0 or 2+ sections. SilverLocust 💬 05:47, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Well, if it currently doesn't, I think it should simply display a big red inconveniently design-/table-breaking error message. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 15:31, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Added an error message. SilverLocust 💬 04:37, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If it helps, consider this to be a barnstar from me, too! Thank you, SilverLocust! House Blaster (talk • he/they) 19:52, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, HouseBlaster. SilverLocust 💬 04:37, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tech News: 2024-36

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Weekly highlight

Editors and volunteer developers interested in data visualisation can now test the new software for charts. Its early version is available on beta Commons and beta Wikipedia. This is an important milestone before making charts available on regular wikis. You can read more about this project update and help to test the charts.

Feature news

Editors who use the Special:UnusedTemplates page can now filter out pages which are expected to be there permanently, such as sandboxes, test-cases, and templates that are always substituted. Editors can add the new magic word __EXPECTUNUSEDTEMPLATE__ to a template page to hide it from the listing. Thanks to Sophivorus and DannyS712 for these improvements. [3]
Editors who use the New Topic tool on discussion pages, will now be reminded to add a section header, which should help reduce the quantity of newcomers who add sections without a header. You can read more about that, and 28 other community-submitted tasks that were resolved last week.
Last week, some Toolforge tools had occasional connection problems. The cause is still being investigated, but the problems have been resolved for now. [4]
Translation administrators at multilingual wikis, when editing multiple translation units, can now easily mark which changes require updates to the translation. This is possible with the new dropdown menu.

Project updates

A new draft text of a policy discussing the use of Wikimedia's APIs has been published on Meta-Wiki. The draft text does not reflect a change in policy around the APIs; instead, it is an attempt to codify existing API rules. Comments, questions, and suggestions are welcome on the proposed update’s talk page until September 13 or until those discussions have concluded.

Learn more

To learn more about the technology behind the Wikimedia projects, you can now watch sessions from the technology track at Wikimania 2024 on Commons. This week, check out:
- Charts, the successor of Graphs - A secure and extensible tool for data visualization (25 mins) – about the above-mentioned Charts project.
- State of Language Technology and Onboarding at Wikimedia (90 mins) – about some of the language tools that support Wikimedia sites, such as Content/Section Translation, MinT, and LanguageConverter; also the current state and future of languages onboarding. [5]

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MediaWiki message delivery 01:04, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Feedback request: Politics, government, and law request for comment

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Your GA nomination of Lisa Blatt

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Lisa Blatt you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Extraordinary Writ -- Extraordinary Writ (talk) 10:43, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tech News: 2024-37

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Feature news

Starting this week, the standard syntax highlighter will receive new colors that make them compatible in dark mode. This is the first of many changes to come as part of a major upgrade to syntax highlighting. You can learn more about what's to come on the help page. [6][7]
Editors of wikis using Wikidata will now be notified of only relevant Wikidata changes in their watchlist. This is because the Lua functions entity:getSitelink() and mw.wikibase.getSitelink(qid) will have their logic unified for tracking different aspects of sitelinks to reduce junk notifications from inconsistent sitelinks tracking. [8]

Project updates

Users of all Wikis will have access to Wikimedia sites as read-only for a few minutes on September 25, starting at 15:00 UTC. This is a planned datacenter switchover for maintenance purposes. More information will be published in Tech News and will also be posted on individual wikis in the coming weeks. [9]
Contributors of 11 Wikipedias, including English will have a new MOS namespace added to their Wikipedias. This improvement ensures that links beginning with MOS: (usually shortcuts to the Manual of Style) are not broken by Mooré Wikipedia (language code mos). [10]

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MediaWiki message delivery 18:49, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Administrator Elections: Updates & Schedule

Administrator Elections \| Updates & Schedule
Administrator elections are in the WMF Trust & Safety SecurePoll calendar and are all set to proceed. We plan to use the following schedule: Oct 8 – Oct 14: Candidate sign-up Oct 22 – Oct 24: Discussion phase Oct 25 – Oct 31: SecurePoll voting phase If you have any questions, concerns, or thoughts before we get started, please post at Wikipedia talk:Administrator elections. If you are interested in helping out, please post at Wikipedia talk:Administrator elections § Ways to help. There are many redlinked subpages that can be created.
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MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 01:18, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your GA nomination of Lisa Blatt

The article Lisa Blatt you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Lisa Blatt for comments about the article, and Talk:Lisa Blatt/GA1 for the nomination. Well done! If the article is eligible to appear in the "Did you know" section of the Main Page, you can nominate it within the next seven days. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Extraordinary Writ -- Extraordinary Writ (talk) 00:25, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

By the way...

...I imagine someone's mentioned before, but just in case: if you're not thinking about an RfA, you should be. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 00:33, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for saying so. I imagine that it doesn't come as a surprise that I'm looking to request those additional tools. SilverLocust 💬 07:24, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

+1. Very +1. Best, Reading Beans 08:12, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tech News: 2024-38

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Improvements and Maintenance

Editors interested in templates can help by reading the latest Wishlist focus area, Template recall and discovery, and share your feedback on the talkpage. This input helps the Community Tech team to decide the right technical approach to build. Everyone is also encouraged to continue adding new wishes.
The new automated Special:NamespaceInfo page helps editors understand which namespaces exist on each wiki, and some details about how they are configured. Thanks to DannyS712 for these improvements. [11]
References Check is a feature that encourages editors to add a citation when they add a new paragraph to a Wikipedia article. For a short time, the corresponding tag "Edit Check (references) activated" was erroneously being applied to some edits outside of the main namespace. This has been fixed. [12]
It is now possible for a wiki community to change the order in which a page’s categories are displayed on their wiki. By default, categories are displayed in the order they appear in the wikitext. Now, wikis with a consensus to do so can request a configuration change to display them in alphabetical order. [13]
Tool authors can now access ToolsDB's public databases from both Quarry and Superset. Those databases have always been accessible to every Toolforge user, but they are now more broadly accessible, as Quarry can be accessed by anyone with a Wikimedia account. In addition, Quarry's internal database can now be queried from Quarry itself. This database contains information about all queries that are being run and starred by users in Quarry. This information was already public through the web interface, but you can now query it using SQL. You can read more about that, and 20 other community-submitted tasks that were resolved last week.
Any pages or tools that still use the very old CSS classes mw-message-box need to be updated. These old classes will be removed next week or soon afterwards. Editors can use a global-search to determine what needs to be changed. It is possible to use the newer cdx-message group of classes as a replacement (see the relevant Codex documentation, and an example update), but using locally defined onwiki classes would be best. [14]

Technical project updates

Next week, all Wikimedia wikis will be read-only for a few minutes. This will start on September 25 at 15:00 UTC. This is a planned datacenter switchover for maintenance purposes. This maintenance process also targets other services. The previous switchover took 3 minutes, and the Site Reliability Engineering teams use many tools to make sure that this essential maintenance work happens as quickly as possible. [15]

Tech in depth

The latest monthly MediaWiki Product Insights newsletter is available. This edition includes details about: research about hook handlers to help simplify development, research about performance improvements, work to improve the REST API for end-users, and more.
To learn more about the technology behind the Wikimedia projects, you can now watch sessions from the technology track at Wikimania 2024 on Commons. This week, check out:
- Hackathon Showcase (45 mins) - 19 short presentations by some of the Hackathon participants, describing some of the projects they worked on, such as automated testing of maintenance scripts, a video-cutting command line tool, and interface improvements for various tools. There are more details and links available in the Phabricator task.
- Co-Creating a Sustainable Future for the Toolforge Ecosystem (40 mins) - a roundtable discussion for tool-maintainers, users, and supporters of Toolforge about how to make the platform sustainable and how to evaluate the tools available there.

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MediaWiki message delivery 23:59, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

DYK nomination of Grupo Mexicano de Desarrollo, S.A. v. Alliance Bond Fund, Inc.

Hello! Your submission of Grupo Mexicano de Desarrollo, S.A. v. Alliance Bond Fund, Inc. at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) at your nomination's entry and respond there at your earliest convenience. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! CMD (talk) 10:49, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tech News: 2024-39

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Weekly highlight

All wikis will be read-only for a few minutes on Wednesday September 25 at 15:00 UTC. Reading the wikis will not be interrupted, but editing will be paused. These twice-yearly processes allow WMF's site reliability engineering teams to remain prepared to keep the wikis functioning even in the event of a major interruption to one of our data centers.

Updates for editors

Editors who use the iOS Wikipedia app in Spanish, Portuguese, French, or Chinese, may see the Alt Text suggested-edit experiment after editing an article, or completing a suggested edit using "Add an image". Alt-text helps people with visual impairments to read Wikipedia articles. The team aims to learn if adding alt-text to images is a task that editors can be successful with. Please share any feedback on the discussion page.
The Codex color palette has been updated with new and revised colors for the MediaWiki user interfaces. The most noticeable changes for editors include updates for: dark mode colors for Links and for quiet Buttons (progressive and destructive), visited Link colors for both light and dark modes, and background colors for system-messages in both light and dark modes.
It is now possible to include clickable wikilinks and external links inside code blocks. This includes links that are used within <syntaxhighlight> tags and on code pages (JavaScript, CSS, Scribunto and Sanitized CSS). Uses of template syntax {{…}} are also linked to the template page. Thanks to SD0001 for these improvements. [16]
Two bugs were fixed in the GlobalVanishRequest system by improving the logging and by removing an incorrect placeholder message. [17][18]
View all 25 community-submitted tasks that were resolved last week.

Updates for technical contributors

From Wikimedia Enterprise:
- The API now enables 5,000 on-demand API requests per month and twice-monthly HTML snapshots freely (gratis and libre). More information on the updates and also improvements to the software development kits (SDK) are explained on the project's blog post. While Wikimedia Enterprise APIs are designed for high-volume commercial reusers, this change enables many more community use-cases to be built on the service too.
- The Snapshot API (html dumps) have added beta Structured Contents endpoints (blog post on that) as well as released two beta datasets (English and French Wikipedia) from that endpoint to Hugging Face for public use and feedback (blog post on that). These pre-parsed data sets enable new options for researchers, developers, and data scientists to use and study the content.

In depth

The Wikidata Query Service (WDQS) is used to get answers to questions using the Wikidata data set. As Wikidata grows, we had to make a major architectural change so that WDQS could remain performant. As part of the WDQS Graph Split project, we have new SPARQL endpoints available for serving the "scholarly" and "main" subgraphs of Wikidata. The query.wikidata.org endpoint will continue to serve the full Wikidata graph until March 2025. After this date, it will only serve the main graph. For more information, please see the announcement on Wikidata.

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MediaWiki message delivery 23:33, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tech News: 2024-40

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Updates for editors

Readers of 42 more wikis can now use Dark Mode. If the option is not yet available for logged-out users of your wiki, this is likely because many templates do not yet display well in Dark Mode. Please use the night-mode-checker tool if you are interested in helping to reduce the number of issues. The recommendations page provides guidance on this. Dark Mode is enabled on additional wikis once per month.
Editors using the 2010 wikitext editor as their default can access features from the 2017 wikitext editor by adding ?veaction=editsource to the URL. If you would like to enable the 2017 wikitext editor as your default, it can be set in your preferences. [19]
For logged-out readers using the Vector 2022 skin, the "donate" link has been moved from a collapsible menu next to the content area into a more prominent top menu, next to "Create an account". This restores the link to the level of prominence it had in the Vector 2010 skin. Learn more about the changes related to donor experiences. [20]
The CampaignEvents extension provides tools for organizers to more easily manage events, communicate with participants, and promote their events on the wikis. The extension has been enabled on Arabic Wikipedia, Igbo Wikipedia, Swahili Wikipedia, and Meta-Wiki. Chinese Wikipedia has decided to enable the extension, and discussions on the extension are in progress on Spanish Wikipedia and on Wikidata. To learn how to enable the extension on your wiki, you can visit the CampaignEvents page on Meta-Wiki.
View all 22 community-submitted tasks that were resolved last week.

Updates for technical contributors

Developers with an account on Wikitech-wiki should check if any action is required for their accounts. The wiki is being changed to use the single-user-login (SUL) system, and other configuration changes. This change will help reduce the overall complexity for the weekly software updates across all our wikis.

In depth

The server switch was completed successfully last week with a read-only time of only 2 minutes 46 seconds. This periodic process makes sure that engineers can switch data centers and keep all of the wikis available for readers, even if there are major technical issues. It also gives engineers a chance to do maintenance and upgrades on systems that normally run 24 hours a day, and often helps to reveal weaknesses in the infrastructure. The process involves dozens of software services and hundreds of hardware servers, and requires multiple teams working together. Work over the past few years has reduced the time from 17 minutes down to 2–3 minutes. [21]

Meetings and events

October 4–6: WikiIndaba Conference's Hackathon in Johannesburg, South Africa
November 4–6: MediaWiki Users and Developers Conference Fall 2024 in Vienna, Austria

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MediaWiki message delivery 22:16, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Lisa Blatt

On 4 October 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Lisa Blatt, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Lisa Blatt, the first woman to argue 50 cases before the Supreme Court of the United States, "elicits laughs and the occasional sharp response from the justices"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Lisa Blatt. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Lisa Blatt), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:03, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

September 2024 NPP backlog drive – Points award

		The Reviewer Barnstar
		This award is given in recognition to SilverLocust for accumulating at least 50 points during the September 2024 NPP backlog drive. Your contributions helped play a part in the 19,000+ articles and 35,000+ redirects reviewed (for a total of 26,884.6 points) completed during the drive. Thank you so much for taking part and contributing to help reduce the backlog! Hey man im josh (talk) 15:24, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

September 2024 NPP backlog drive – Streak award

		Worm Gear Award
		This award is given in recognition to SilverLocust for accumulating at least 7 points during each week of the September 2024 NPP backlog drive. Your contributions played a part in the 19,000+ articles and 35,000+ redirects reviewed (for a total of 26,884.6 points) during the drive. Thank you so much for taking part and contributing to help reduce the backlog! Hey man im josh (talk) 15:41, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tech News: 2024-41

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Weekly highlight

Communities can now request installation of Automoderator on their wiki. Automoderator is an automated anti-vandalism tool that reverts bad edits based on scores from the new "Revert Risk" machine learning model. You can read details about the necessary steps for installation and configuration. [22]

Updates for editors

Translators in wikis where the mobile experience of Content Translation is available, can now customize their articles suggestion list from 41 filtering options when using the tool. This topic-based article suggestion feature makes it easy for translators to self-discover relevant articles based on their area of interest and translate them. You can try it with your mobile device. [23]
View all 12 community-submitted tasks that were resolved last week.

Updates for technical contributors

It is now possible for <syntaxhighlight> code blocks to offer readers a "Copy" button if the copy=1 attribute is set on the tag. Thanks to SD0001 for these improvements. [24]
Customized copyright footer messages on all wikis will be updated. The new versions will use wikitext markup instead of requiring editing raw HTML. [25]
Later this month, temporary accounts will be rolled out on several pilot wikis. The final list of the wikis will be published in the second half of the month. If you maintain any tools, bots, or gadgets on these 11 wikis, and your software is using data about IP addresses or is available for logged-out users, please check if it needs to be updated to work with temporary accounts. Guidance on how to update the code is available.
Rate limiting has been enabled for the code review tools Gerrit and GitLab to address ongoing issues caused by malicious traffic and scraping. Clients that open too many concurrent connections will be restricted for a few minutes. This rate limiting is managed through nftables firewall rules. For more details, see Wikitech's pages on Firewall, GitLab limits and Gerrit operations.
Five new wikis have been created:
- a Wikipedia in Komering (w:kge:) [26]
- a Wikipedia in Mooré (m:mos:) [27]
- a Wiktionary in Madurese (wikt:mad:) [28]
- a Wikiquote in Gorontalo (q:gor:) [29]
- a Wikinews in Shan (n:shn:) [30]

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MediaWiki message delivery 23:39, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Administrator Elections: Call for Candidates

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Prospective candidates are advised to become familar with the community's expectations of adminstrators, which are much higher than the minimum requirement of having extended confirmed status. This includes reviewing successful and unsuccessful RFAs, reading the essay Wikipedia:Advice for RfA candidates, and possibly requesting an optional poll on their chances of passing.
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MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 02:35, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Attempted assassination of Donald Trump (disambiguation)

Hello, thanks for moving the Pennsylvania article. I followed the discussion, but didn't comment. There's a new-ish dab page at Attempted assassination of Donald Trump (disambiguation). Should Attempted assassination of Donald Trump now redirect there? That doesn't seem to have been addressed in the discussion. Wikishovel (talk) 07:49, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Wikishovel: Well I moved the article for the closer, but I'm not the closer. Cyberdog958 may be willing to clarify whether the discussion led to a conclusion on what to do with Attempted assassination of Donald Trump when moved. As to my own opinion, I didn't see rebuttal that the Pennsylvania event was a primary topic, so I would leave it as a WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT. (If there is WP:NOPRIMARY, then Attempted assassination of Donald Trump (disambiguation) should be swapped to Attempted assassination of Donald Trump.) SilverLocust 💬 08:05, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

All good points. I don't have an opinion on primary topic, just trying to maintain that new dab page, and I'll be glad to hear opinions on whether it should be renamed, or my last edit there reverted per WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT. If that takes another rename discussion, that's fine too, I'm in no rush. Wikishovel (talk) 08:10, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Wikishovel: To me, it looks like the redirect should be left as a WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT with the hatnote left in place. Per the multiple editors that brought up WP:PRIMARYTOPIC and the pageviews of the two separate articles, it seems like the majority of people navigating to the redirect are trying to reach the newly moved article and not the one in Florida. I would include a link to the dab page at the top, though, possible replacing the Security incidents involving Donald Trump link. cyberdog958^Talk 08:18, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I've reverted the dab page, with Attempted assassination of Donald Trump back at the top as PRIMARYREDIRECT, and updated the hatnote at the Pennsylvania article. That does fine for now, and if the situation changes, the dab page can always be changed again later. Thanks for your quick replies. Wikishovel (talk) 09:10, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The base name should almost never redirect to the disambiguated title. If it does, then there is a primary topic and the page should be located at the base name instead. Actual examples of primary redirects would be Einstein to Albert Einstein, Olympics to Olympic Games, or, in rarer cases, Jacksonville to Jacksonville, Florida (because of WP:USPLACE). This is no different than if Attempted assassination of Donald Trump redirected to Attempted assassination of Donald Trump (July 2024), a classic example of |unnecessary disambiguation. That being said, I think the closing statement should've gone into more detail about specifically what consensus was found in the discussion. C F A 💬 01:55, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@CFA: What WP:MISPLACED actually says is that "a base name should not be a redirect to a page with the base name plus a parenthetical disambiguator." That is not the case here. SilverLocust 💬 02:04, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, but the same thing applies to the base name plus non-parenthetical disambigators. Attempted assassination of Donald Trump in Pennsylvania could easily be Attempted assassination of Donald Trump (Pennsylvania) or Attempted assassination of Donald Trump (July 2024). C F A 💬 02:08, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If that were so, 2024 Summer Olympics would need to be moved to 2024 Olympics and Brown v. Board of Education would be need to be moved to Brown v. Board. The word "parenthetical" is not in that sentence extraneously. SilverLocust 💬 02:23, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No, because those qualifiers aren't "disambiguators" — they aren't disambiguating from anything — and instead just form alternative names for the same page. C F A 💬 02:36, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'll concede that those two examples I gave don't rebut the rule you're suggesting. But WP:NCWWW is fairly clear that the "when", "where", and "what" of an event can be included for descriptive purposes rather than purely to disambiguate from other topics. Its example of 1993 Russian constitutional crisis is illustrative, where the 1993 adds extra description over the somewhat ambiguous (but nonetheless WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT) title Russian constitutional crisis. SilverLocust 💬 06:25, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@CFA: As I stated in my close, there was consensus to move the article per WP: CONSISTENT and WP:PRECISE. As far as the primary topic, it was brought up a lot by opposers that the attempt in Pennsylvania is the primary and it was never really refuted by the supporters, but that wasn’t the subject of the discussion and wasn’t ever brought into question. The entire reason there is a WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT section is for this exact reason. And WP:MISPLACED states that if topic-specific naming conventions dictate the use of a disambiguator, it should redirect to the primary topic. As SilverLocust said, WP:NCWWW says that events should be titled with when, what, and where. It’s naturally disambiguated and WP:MISPLACED doesn’t apply. Your welcome to bring the redirect up in WP:RFD, though. cyberdog958^Talk 13:10, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not going to argue this any further, but NCWWW was essentially never brought up in the discussion. Most participants wanted to move for the sole goal of disambiguating the two attempts (and thus "in Pennsylvania" is equivalent to parenthetical disambiguation), not because they thought the current title failed event title policy. It's pointless to redirect a base name to a disambiguated name (on the basis that apparently there is a primary topic). If there is a primary topic, the page should be located at the base name. If there isn't a primary topic, then there should be a disambiguation page at the base name. Your close makes no mention of whether there is consensus on a primary topic, so now we're stuck with this half-solution. C F A 💬 14:40, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A discussion to move Attempted assassination of Donald Trump (disambiguation) to Attempted assassination of Donald Trump has now been started at Talk:Attempted assassination of Donald Trump (disambiguation)#Requested move 11 October 2024. This will hopefully resolve the above confusion. GTrang (talk) 14:18, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tech News: 2024-42

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Updates for editors

The Structured Discussion extension (also known as Flow) is starting to be removed. This extension is unmaintained and causes issues. It will be replaced by DiscussionTools, which is used on any regular talk page. A first set of wikis are being contacted. These wikis are invited to stop using Flow, and to move all Flow boards to sub-pages, as archives. At these wikis, a script will move all Flow pages that aren't a sub-page to a sub-page automatically, starting on 22 October 2024. On 28 October 2024, all Flow boards at these wikis will be set in read-only mode. [31][32]
WMF's Search Platform team is working on making it easier for readers to perform text searches in their language. A change last week on over 30 languages makes it easier to find words with accents and other diacritics. This applies to both full-text search and to types of advanced search such as the hastemplate and incategory keywords. More technical details (including a few other minor search upgrades) are available. [33]
View all 20 community-submitted tasks that were resolved last week. For example, EditCheck was installed at Russian Wikipedia, and fixes were made for some missing user interface styles.

Updates for technical contributors

Editors who use the Toolforge tool Earwig's Copyright Violation Detector will now be required to log in with their Wikimedia account before running checks using the "search engine" option. This change is needed to help prevent external bots from misusing the system. Thanks to Chlod for these improvements. [34]
Phabricator users can create tickets and add comments on existing tickets via Email again. Sending email to Phabricator has been fixed. [35]
Some HTML elements in the interface are now wrapped with a <bdi> element, to make our HTML output more aligned with Web standards. More changes like this will be coming in future weeks. This change might break some tools that rely on the previous HTML structure of the interface. Note that relying on the HTML structure of the interface is not recommended and might break at any time. [36]

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MediaWiki message delivery 21:18, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Administrator Elections: Candidate instructions

Administrator Elections | Instructions for candidates

Thank you for choosing to run in the October 2024 administrator elections. This bulletin contains some important information about the next stages of the election process.

As a reminder, the schedule of the election is:

October 15–21: SecurePoll setup phase
October 22–24: Discussion phase
October 25–31: SecurePoll voting phase
November 1–?: Scrutineering phase

We are currently in the SecurePoll setup phase. Your candidate subpage will remain closed to questions and discussion. However, this is an excellent opportunity for you to recruit nominators (if you want them) and have them place their nomination statements, and a good time for you to answer the standard three questions, if you have not done so already. We recommend you spend the SecurePoll setup phase from October 15–21 getting your candidate page polished and ready for the next phase.

The discussion phase will take place from October 22–24. Your candidate subpage will open to the public and they will be permitted to discuss you and ask you formal questions, in the same style as a request for adminship (RfA). Please make sure you are around on those dates to answer the formal questions in a timely manner.

On October 25, we will start the voting phase. The candidate subpages will close again to public questions and discussion, and everyone will have a week to use the SecurePoll software to vote, which uses a secret ballot. Anyone can see who has voted, but not who they voted for. You are permitted and encouraged to vote in the election, including voting for yourself. Please note that the vote tallies cannot be made public until after voting has ended and as such, it will not be possible for you to see your tally during the election. The suffrage requirements are different from those at RfA.

Once voting concludes, we will begin the scrutineering phase, which will last for an indeterminate amount of time, perhaps a week or two. Once everything is certified, the results will be posted on the main election page. In order to be granted adminship, you must have received at least 70% support, calculated as support ÷ (support + oppose). As this is a vote and not a consensus, there are no bureaucrat discussions ("'crat chats").

Any questions or issues can be asked on the election talk page. Thank you for your participation as a candidate, and best of luck.

You're receiving this message because you are a candidate in the October 2024 administrator elections.

MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 01:40, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Our Admin Election Test

Hello there. As we're preparing to move from one stage to the next, this is just a quick note from one member of the test group to another, wishing you well in the process of this new alternative to RfA. It seems that there are more of us in this group than some in the community anticipated, so i hope that doesn't make the experience any the worse for all of us. Whatever our individual results, i thank you, along with the rest, for stepping up and testing this process; happy days, ~ Lindsay^Hello 07:14, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]