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terima kasih

Thanks for that. I've added an alternate form of the link using the fullurl parser function. Could you check that it works properly? The idea here is that it should work properly on either the en.wikipedia and the secure.wikimedia servers; i.e. you're not flipped to en if you're on secure. I did this to the other diffs that were hard-coded to use the secure server using {{diff}}. Most people use the en server and are not logged in to secure, so flipping people from one to the other typically results in them being on a server as an IP and the unwary can be tripped up and make some edit anonymously when that was not their intent. And for added lulz, read Firesheep. Picture some troll stalking a wiki-meetup and hijacking Jimmy's account; or an arb's, someone with oversight...

• http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Snottywong/RfC_draft
• https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/User:Snottywong/RfC_draft

Cheers, Jack Merridew 20:34, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

Your link works. – sgeureka ^t•c 08:24, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the confirmation, and sorry I forgot to check back here. Cheers, Jack Merridew 20:03, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

Super (2010) Movie renaming

Dear Sgeureka, this is regarding the name-change of a Wikipedia film article Super (2010 Kannada film) at http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Super_%282010_Kannada_film%29&diff=398791434&oldid=398790601 Since it is a multilingual (3 South-Indian languages) movie, can we rename it to something like: Super (2010 Upendra film) or Super (2010 Indian film)? Please suggest if you have a better idea, or you can change it to either of the above suggested titles. Thank you. Niri.M 08:29, 5 December 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Niri.M (talk • contribs)

It's already been moved to "Super (2010 Indian film)", which seems like the correct name in such a case. – sgeureka ^t•c 14:15, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

Category:Television programs by season

As a frequent and recent discussant at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style (television), I call your attention to the creation of Category:Television programs by season and its subcats, which are being discussed at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Television#Season_article_template.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 15:41, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Nomination of season one episode articles of House for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the articles Paternity (House), Occam's Razor (House), Maternity (House), Damned If You Do, The Socratic Method (House), Fidelity (House), Poison (House), DNR (House), Histories (House), Detox (House), Sports Medicine (House), Cursed (House), Control (House), Mob Rules (House), Heavy (House), Role Model (House), Babies & Bathwater, Kids (House), Love Hurts (House) and Honeymoon (House) are suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

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Question

What do you think would be the best way to continue with this, keep the AfD, or shift to an RfC at List of House episodes? I have the feeling that a bunch of people are voting "keep" because they don't want them to be deleted for ever but don't vote "redirect". One of the arguments I hoped to avoid by doing the first season alone (and was thwarted by the motion to include all seven seasons) has already come up, which is "to many to fix in time, so keep", redirects would easily avoid that problem and when notability of the specific episode is established one could easily recreate the article. Thanks. _Xeworlebi ^(talk) 15:36, 6 March 2011 (UTC)

I think Masem (whom I respect very highly) summarized the issue quite well in this comment. If you have the energy, I'd advice to start an TV RfC about how to deal with assumedly somewhat-notable episode articles that violate WP:NOT#PLOT and where nowhere stands up to fix them. The RfC should be about such articles in general, and not just a specific show. Many of the hardcore fiction inclusionists/deletionists no longer edit wikipedia and we may actually be getting somewhere with a new attempt. I largely lack the time to actively deal with plot-only fiction articles anymore through merging/redirection, but I'd be very happy to see this issue be resolved in favor of quality instead of fancruft. – sgeureka ^t•c 10:39, 7 March 2011 (UTC)

I just came across Wikipedia:Television episodes/Review, which was basically about this, not sure why it died out all of a sudden. _Xeworlebi ^(talk) 11:19, 7 March 2011 (UTC)

That was shortly before I started getting interested in the behind-the-scenes of wikipedia, and I didn't really participate in that. The User:TTN debacle and the Fiction arbcom cases started shortly after this. I presume that there were too few fiction cleanup editors against too many fans and inclusionists, and too many battles on too many fronts. The process there works only for old shows or shows that don't have (m)any wikipedia editor-fans, but as you're experiencing right now, it's nearly impossible to clean up popular on-the-air shows. – sgeureka ^t•c 11:45, 7 March 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I just read the ANI, looks like a very one sides battle by Catshi. I guess I'll see the AfD out, and maybe down the line start a bigger scale RfC about it. Doesn't really seem like a good idea to start that now next to the AfD or shortly after it. One user has already thrown WP:GETOVERIT around just a day in the AfD. _Xeworlebi ^(talk) 12:41, 7 March 2011 (UTC)

User:Sheynhertz-Unbayg

... is back. At least I think so. See Unterman (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · edit filter log · block user · block log). Geschichte (talk) 22:15, 19 March 2011 (UTC)

I know that (banned) SU has been active through sock puppets in the past few weeks, but I do not have much time to edit wikipedia lately. Please use Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Sheynhertz-Unbayg for matters related to him. – sgeureka ^t•c 10:46, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

Notification

Jfgslo has started an RFC on whether it would be appropriate to merge or redirect an article that you recently participated in an AFD for. Please join the discussion so that we may try to form a consensus at a centralized location. Shooterwalker (talk) 23:23, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you!

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	For your excellent work on the A Song of Ice and Fire article. Cheers, Magister Scientatalk 18:50, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. Just wait for when it's finished...:-) – sgeureka ^t•c 11:05, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

MSU Interview

Dear sgeureka,

My name is Jonathan Obar user:Jaobar, I'm a professor in the College of Communication Arts and Sciences at Michigan State University and a Teaching Fellow with the Wikimedia Foundation's Education Program. This semester I've been running a little experiment at MSU, a class where we teach students about becoming Wikipedia administrators. Not a lot is known about your community, and our students (who are fascinated by wiki-culture by the way!) want to learn how you do what you do, and why you do it. A while back I proposed this idea (the class) to the community HERE, where it was met mainly with positive feedback. Anyhow, I'd like my students to speak with a few administrators to get a sense of admin experiences, training, motivations, likes, dislikes, etc. We were wondering if you'd be interested in speaking with one of our students.

So a few things about the interviews:

• Interviews will last between 15 and 30 minutes.
• Interviews can be conducted over skype (preferred), IRC or email. (You choose the form of communication based upon your comfort level, time, etc.)
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• The entire interview process is being overseen by MSU's institutional review board (ethics review). This means that all questions have been approved by the university and all students have been trained how to conduct interviews ethically and properly.

Bottom line is that we really need your help, and would really appreciate the opportunity to speak with you. If interested, please send me an email at obar@msu.edu (to maintain anonymity) and I will add your name to my offline contact list. If you feel comfortable doing so, you can post your name HERE instead. If you have questions or concerns at any time, feel free to email me at obar@msu.edu. I will be more than happy to speak with you.

Thanks in advance for your help. We have a lot to learn from you.

Sincerely,

Jonathan Obar --Jaobar (talk) 07:26, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

Young June Sah --Yjune.sah (talk) 20:30, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

Thanks

Thank you for merging my The Office-related AfDs. Darkwarriorblake (talk) 19:02, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

Don't mention it. :-) – sgeureka ^t•c 08:04, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

Television episode and season articles badly needed

Because of the high number of edits that you have made at Wikipedia talk:Television episodes, I would like to call your attention to a list of the most critically acclaimed episodes and season articles that need to be created: Wikipedia:TV-EPISODE#Important_articles_to_be_created.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 14:16, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

WP:WikiProject Stargate

I propose a conversion of this Project into a task force. You may improve a consensus by clicking WT:WikiProject Stargate#Turning WikiProject Stargate into a task force? and discussing a proposal. --George Ho (talk) 17:20, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for doing good work on World of A Song of Ice and Fire, but...

Many thanks for your great work World of A Song of Ice and Fire. The article has been in a bad state ever since I created it two years ago by merging four related articles. You seem to have fixed it up very nicely and added a lot of good material. However, I am somewhat concerned over the amount of {{cn}} tags you added in the existing sections. While I personally think citing everything to a source is best, many people would point out that wp:V does not in fact require inline citations for everything, merely that they can be added if the material is challenged. Adding citation tags after every single sentence is not a proper way of challenging information and can even be considered disruptive. Nearly all of the material you tagged can be easily verified with one of the books or the interactive map on the HBO website. Yoenit (talk) 17:44, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. As for the {{cn}} tags, the ASOIAF books have the habit of spreading the backstory and world information all over the narrative, so (correct me if I'm wrong) it's more likely that it's one ref per sentence, not one per paragraph where less intrusive cleanup tags would do. Since the narrative is also 4000++ pages and no-one can have all facts in mind (and refs are hard to find without a search function in digital books), I actually challenge the material, so inline citations are fine. To ease your concerns, I'll say that I intend to work on the World article further (along with the Themes article), and that I do have the books in digital format with a search function. Highlighting what still needs to be sourced (to maybe take the World article to WP:GA one day) is more helpful that the unspecific years-old {{Multiple issues}} tag at the top that no-one seems to take as an incentive for cleanup. Therefore, the {{cn}} tags will (hopefully) just be temporary until I (or other helpful hands) get around to digging up the refs. – sgeureka ^t•c 05:53, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

A Song of Ice and Fire

When I clicked on the discuss link on the split tag, it took me to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_A_Song_of_Ice_and_Fire#Meta-article_restructuring. There it says that you are not going to pursue the change. It may be that I read the wrong discussion, but I can find no other discussion about this. This is why I thought the split tag was no longer required. Can I take it that you intend to make the split soon? Op47 (talk) 18:03, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

I started four different discussions under this header. The second one, still open, is for the possible fandom article. I'll likely start such an article in the not-to-far future, but there are other wiki things one my plate now, and I'll leave the {{split section}} tag up in case there is opposition until then). – sgeureka ^t•c 06:16, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

File:Stargate SG-1 Unending.jpg listed for deletion

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episode list template

hiya, if you looke further down the list you will see the table disappears, if you look at befire fix at epsiode 823 teh table sort of disappears from ther eon. if it keeps epsiode 824 and before it shows the problem completely, which is the table disappears from 823 on wards, i hope that clarify itAndrewcrawford (talk - contrib) 17:49, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

Ankheg (AfD)

Hi ! As you participated in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Afanc (Dungeons & Dragons), I thought you might be interested in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ankheg (2nd nomination), another D&D monster.Folken de Fanel (talk) 20:07, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

Sorry about falling through on the review

Sorry about falling through on the review. I replied to your email, but I saw somewhere else that you didn't get it so I thought I would leave a comment. Over the past several months I have been trying to reengage with Wikipedia, but its been emotionally hard to reengage. Sorry about any trouble that I caused, apparantly I am not ready to take on long term projects on wiki. Again, very sorry, I have had people fall through on me before on wiki as well, and I know it isn't fun :P Sadads (talk) 17:50, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

Surname pages

If you are still interested in these, would you please take a look at my comments at User talk:D'oh2 and User talk:INeverCry60? You seem to know about the subject and I'm finding these new accounts (looking at their first edits I don't think they are new users) are making edits that I find confusing - linking to articles not about surnames, not providing reliable sources, etc. I see no reason for surname articles not to be sourced as well as any other articles, although INeverCry60 thinks differently given his edit summary " relationship is clear, obvious, no need to explain". Thanks. Dougweller (talk) 13:15, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

Yes, WP:DUCK, brought to Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Sheynhertz-Unbayg. – sgeureka ^t•c 15:16, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for that, I see they're blocked. I'm glad I wasn't being too paranoid! I knew about the puppetmaster but wasn't aware he was so active - loads at Category:Wikipedia sockpuppets of Sheynhertz-Unbayg I see. Dougweller (talk) 15:48, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

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Your recent revert

Hi, regarding your recent revert, have you read the notes at File_talk:The_Genealogy_of_Bharata.png? This is not a new issue & the same image was deleted at Commons. - Sitush (talk) 07:49, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

No, I missed that and self-reverted, but even now, it's not obvious to me how this qualifies for speedy deletion... (The discussion can continue at the image's talkpage, if need be). – sgeureka ^t•c 08:00, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

That's ok, thanks. I was tempted to nominate for a more prolonged deletion process and in retrospect perhaps should have done. I just thought that speedy would be ok because of what happened at Commons. Of course, that is conflating two projects and so is not A Good Thing. I will pose the question on the talk page. - Sitush (talk) 08:02, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of List of Tiger mascots

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A Song of Ice and Fire

Finished my read through and have left comments as I went. Feel free to debate the merits of them as you see fit. I made a few, hopefully minor, changes as I went that you might like to double check as well. I still have to check images and will probably do some more spot checks of references, but would imagine that the bulk of the review is completed. Don't let the number of comments throw you off, I really enjoyed reading the article and think it is generally very well written. AIRcorn (talk) 07:35, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

Thank you. I've had a busy week, but it seems I can pay full attention to your review today and tomorrow. I'll leave notes on the review page then. – sgeureka ^t•c 08:01, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

I guess is american; I imagine or I suppose is english. Kittybrewster ☎ 11:37, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

Finally got around to responding to your comments at the GA review. Sorry about the delay. AIRcorn (talk) 13:28, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

We got there. Congratulations, it is a good Good article. AIRcorn (talk) 11:45, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

BXXWeb

I was wondering if you've heard about Daniel Knauf's new project and whether or not you think it's notable enough for it's own article?--CyberGhostface (talk) 06:01, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

The Legend of Korra organization RfC

Hi, I'm contacting you becaused you expressed an opinion in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Legend of Korra (Book 2). Because it appears likely that the AfD will not end with deletion, I've set up a request for comment (RfC) on the talk page of the article about the series about how to organize the topic into subarticles. If you are interested, I'd appreciate it if you would add your opinion in that RfC. Regards,  Sandstein  06:56, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

Nomination of List of starships in Stargate for deletion

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WP A Song of Ice and Fire in the Signpost

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Help with german

Hi Sgeureka, I am trying to digest an interesting article which has been scanned and I cannot use google translate.... essentially what we are intrested is this - this mushroom - Boletus luridus - which we are buffing for GA - has long been suspected of causing adverse symptoms when consumed with alcohol, but a German study casts doubt on this, suggesting it is Boletus torosus instead. The article is here so any nuances or details would be gratefully received (info such as sum knowledge of luridus to date, conclusions etc...). We've got the essence of it, just looking to see what detail...cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 10:09, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

I'll have a look at it. – sgeureka ^t•c 12:13, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks/much appreciated. Casliber (talk · contribs) 12:21, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

Below is my summary of the paper, take what you need :-)

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In the first part, they describe what specialist literature says about various mushrooms of the Coprinus family. Some of these mushrooms are known to contain a special kind of amino acid that the paper calls de:Coprin. This amino acid is known to make you feel sick (Antabuse effect) when consumed with alcohol.

Although some specialist literature says that Boletus luridus makes you feel sick as if Coprin was inside, there has been an experiment by HATFIELD a few years before that couldn't prove the existence of Coprin in B.L. Now the paper descibes how they did their own tests in detail.

They have several tests for aminoacids that have to do with ions and pH gradients and stuff. I don't really understand the science behind this, but there are a few basic facts:

• The isoelectric point of Coprin lies between the aminoacids Asparagine and Threonine, but the signals are hard to separate. Therefore, if we're talking about small amounts of Coprin, it's hard to determine if there is indeed little amount or none at all.
• Coprin is unstable in water solutions even at -20°C, so they couldn't really do the necessary long-time experiments.

So they tested a little more, but they found no hard evidence that there was Coprin in B.L. They used B.L. from many different locations and years, stored the mushrooms at a more stable -30°C, still no hard evidence.

So they offer two explanations:

• B.L. has another amino acid that causes you to feel sick.
• or there are other mushrooms with this effect, and the mushrooms look similar to B.L. There are a couple of them that actually do look similar to B.L., and they range from edible (no known side effects with alcohol consumption) to sometimes causing tummy aches (i.e. feeling sick even without drinking alcohol).

Boletus satanas had no traceable Coprin. However, Boletus torosus has many similarities with B.L. in look of the stype, color, shape, size and getting blue when cut. B.T. is hardly ever described in the usual mushroom books because (the paper thinks) it is an uncommon mushroom especially in North Germany. Specialist literature includes the B.T. but doesn't describe inedibility or side effects with or without alcohol.

So they did some more testing. Hard evidence is still hard to come by because of the Asparagine-Threonine issues. But there are secondary indicators for Coprin in B.T. that weren't there with B.L.

They summarize ("Zusammenfassung"):

"Our findings can hardly be interpreted differently than that B. torosus contains Coprin: This is the first proof of this amino acid outside of the Coprinaceae.

"Our results provide no evidence at all of Coprin in Boletus luridus. On the other hand, the results do not exclude that there are other substances in this mushroom that inhibit alcohol reduction/decomposition/degradation [don't know the medical word] and that aren't known so far. It cannot be fully determined if alcohol is a co-factor under special circumstances that led to the described intoxication incidents.

"The doppelgänger theory is a plausible explanation in line with all the evidence. We therefore advise that if there are more Antabuse intoxications with [mushrooms that look like B.L.], there should be a more exact mycological determination and if possible chemical examinations.

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Good luck with your GA! – sgeureka ^t•c 13:35, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

Ahaaa, makes me wonder whether they've possibly been a tad hasty in their conclusions...this helps alot/thanks! Casliber (talk · contribs) 19:28, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

We've found another article in German, this time from Switzerland. This is interesting as it will be good to see how it summarises and treats the previous study. We'd be grateful if you could get a gist of what it's saying. On the plus side, the article is shaping up really nicely, which would have been completely impossible on English sources alone.....If you're really stuck for time I can nag Eusebeus too :) Casliber (talk · contribs) 06:35, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

I'm on weekend vacation until Sunday evening (Europe). I can give it a shot then, or you can ask Eusebeus for quicker help. :-) – sgeureka ^t•c 12:49, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

It can wait easily, no time pressure and you've already read the other so might be less work overall for you than him from scratch..cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 19:56, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

FLAMMER's article refers to Boletus luridus only in the first paragraph, and then again in passing in the last paragraph. Nothing new at all here, the first paragraph is a very short summary of what I summarized above. The remainder of the article is a summary of the paper by FOURRÉ about Boletus torosus. I'll have a look if there is something new for the B.T. wiki article. – sgeureka ^t•c 13:19, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

Thx - we decided to buff Boletus torosus for GA as well... :) Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:39, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

Translation of the second article, beginning with the second paragraph:

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The colorful B.T. is very rare in many places. Intoxication cases in relation with alcohol are not known so far. The polychromic quick-change artist has many doppelgängers that can't be pidgeonholed easily.

It has one feature though that is different from that of his relatives: B.T. is heavy, very dense and makes the impression as if holding a stone in your hand. Compared to Boletus rhodopurpureus of the same volume, B.T. is heavier by 37 percent. Still: "The interpretation of the taxon is still unclear (source 6)." The question is, as so often, of smooth transitions [within the mushroom family].

We want to check if B.T. is a poisonous mushroom. Are B.T.s edible Coprin mushrooms that don't agree with alcohol as do Coprinopsis atramentaria, and therefore cause a classic Coprinus syndrom?

B.T., very rare where the author lives, maybe also misjudged/unrecognized sometimes, grows in the deciduous forests of Charente-Maritime, Charente and Deux-Sévres with the capitals La Rochelle, Angoulême and Niort, according to author FOURRÉ. Some years, B.T. is collected and eaten in basket amounts.

Now, B.T. is a problem mushroom in some regards. Eaten raw, it is toxic and leads to diarrhea with vomiting. When cooked, it is lauded as a good edible mushroom. The author Guy FOURRÉ disagrees with this, because the cooked mushroom has its mood swings. Sometimes it is eaten without effects, sometimes small amounts lead to bad tummy aches. Big meals punish the eaters with diarrhea with vomiting and sometimes slight liver aches(?). In other cases, the mushroom is cooperative with the same person.

After KIWITT&LAATSCH found Coprin in a mushroom collection from Innsbruck, you would expect the Coprinus syndrom when enjoying B.T. and wine (the last shouldn't be missing in a French meal). But this isn't the case. Diarrhea with vomiting, which happens only sometimes, and then after a short period of latency of a few hours, seems like digestive disorders (think indigestion). This isn't unusual for such a compact and mushroom with much chitin that ends up in kitchens in baskets. Of course, you might say that an antabuse reaction is only to be expected when the blood levels are high with Coprin and alcohol. Experience says that alcohol is absorbed very quickly, whereas it takes some time for the Coprin to get out of the hard-to-digest mushrooms and into the circulatory system; the mushrooms stays in the bowel for 3-4 days and leaves the body being digested only a little bit. This assumption explains the surpising result of LIST in a self-experiment, who had no reactions after eating Coprinus astramentarus with alcohol at the same time, but had mild reactions after drinking alcohol 16 hours later, and strong reactions after drinking alcohol 24 hours later.

There is also a variation [the article calls it Nadelwaldform, "shape of edit: probably rather growing in a coniferous forest"] that has a brown-red cap and not-so-flamboyant yellow pores, but it's very rare in the named French departments and is comparable with the finding from the Jura. [It's not clear if they mean the Swiss Canton of Jura or the French Jura (department).]

Questions after questions: It is clear: B.T. is a heavy, compact mushroom with a high specific weight. After touching and infractions, it turns deep blue-black everywhere. This alone is not a monopole of our mushroom, neither is the butter-yellow flesh, the stipe with fine nets and yellow, red and dark violet components, the many-colored-spotted and bumpy cap with a color palette of yellow, grey, (the Nadelwaldform is wine reddish, browny,) olive, blue-black; and chrome-yellow tube openings [I believe they mean the spongy-tubey things under the cap] that change to orange or deep purple red in a stainy or plane way. This color mimicry is the same as with Boletus purpureus, rhodopurpureus, xanthocyaneus, robrosanguineus etc. Only when aged, the B.T. gets dark violet-black, grey, olive and appear more inviting.

Which of the named mushrooms have Coprin? Is it only individual clones and subgroups? What role do the trace elements and the heave metals play in the metabolism of these mushrooms and what is the cause of their play of colors? The samples collected by Stijve in 1998 had little Cadmium, lead and mercury, but much zinc (240-380 mg/kg oven-dry mass), similar to Macrolepiota provera and some ascomycetes.

Conclusion: So far, the Coprinus syndrome could only be shown explicitely in Coprinus astramentarius (2). The mix-up theory B.L. (free of Coprin) vs. B.T. (has Coprin) still needs more experiments. B.T. is toxic when raw, and is not advised to be eaten as as an edible mushroom when cooked because of frequent indigestions. It is to be avoided to make overhasty conclusions that sickness is correlated to alcohol and the coprinus syndrome. This is also true for Clitocybe clavipes, Coprinus comatus etc. The symptoms have to be the same as in the box below [explanations of the coprinus syndrome]. It is an important evidence if the feeling of sickness comes up suddenly after drinking alcohol, but it is a sure evidence for the coprinus syndrome if this happens again after 3-4 days when consumed with alcohol again.

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transwiki articles from Wikipedia to Wikibooks

Dear sgeureka,

Someone at Wikibooks: Talk: Data Compression#lost data compression techniques suggested I talk to a Wikipedia administrator about getting a copy of a few articles. Normally I suspect that people advising me to "go bug an administrator" are trying to get me in trouble. However, the Wikipedia:Deletion policy#Access to deleted pages policy seems to confirm that this is the proper process: "Any user with a genuine reason to view a copy of a deleted page may request ... an administrator to supply a copy of the page".

I would like to transwiki some articles from Wikipedia to Wikibooks: Reduced Offset Lempel Ziv, Lempel–Ziv–Tamayo, Polar Tree, WinRK, NanoZip, Asymmetric binary system .

My understanding is that: These topics are not yet notable enough yet to meet Wikipedia's strict standards. (Which is why they all became redlinks). But I suspect some or all of them are notable enough to meet Wikibook's more relaxed notability standards. (Apparently someone thought that some of them were notable enough to add to Template:Compression methods ).

Please either

(a) Transwiki each article to Wikibooks (preserving the history and credit for each edit), so each article can become a module in Wikibooks: Data Compression. Or,

(b) Use the "Email this user" link on the left sidebar of every user page. Email to me your best guess at the "best" version of the article, before it was deleted. I will heavily paraphrase the parts of those articles (if any) that are relevant to the Data Compression Wikibook. What else do I need to do to avoid plagiarism?

p.s.: I randomly picked your name from the Category:Wikipedia administrators willing to provide copies of deleted articles. If you have no idea what "transwiki" is about, please feel free to forward this note to some other administrator that is more likely to know how to transwiki an article.

Thank you very much. Vielen Dank!

--DavidCary (talk) 20:20, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

Done and replied on your talk page. – sgeureka ^t•c 13:48, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

Thank you! Vielen Dank! --DavidCary (talk) 16:45, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

Karl Marx Monument question

Would you be interested in merging this page in your userspace with the live article? I would do it on my own, but since it is in your userspace, I figured you might want to do the honors. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 02:01, 22 March 2014 (UTC)

I'll be honest: I'll never get around to write about the KMM. I have stuff in my userspace about higher-priority things, and even there, I am completely backlogged. Take what you need, I don't want or need credit for anything. :-) – sgeureka ^t•c 07:53, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

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I nominated Wikipedia:Today's featured article/requests/Pride and Prejudice (1995 TV series) for TFA, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:31, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

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