User talk:Scriabin1

File names

Please do not 'correct' file names. All it does is prevent the file from being displayed. Sumanuil (talk) 03:06, 11 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

October 2023

Hello, Scriabin1. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about on Wikipedia, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a conflict of interest may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for organizations for more information. We ask that you:

avoid editing or creating articles about yourself, your family, friends, colleagues, company, organization, clients, or competitors;
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In addition, you are required by the Wikimedia Foundation's terms of use to disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution which forms all or part of work for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation. See Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure.

Also, editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Thank you. 57.140.16.31 (talk) 16:14, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Many years ago I was invited by a member of the staff of Wikipedia to post an article on myself. I updated that article earlier this week with new information and wish to delete some images to make room for newer portraits. I am listed in several reference books and am represented by several galleries including Vose Galleries and Portraits Inc. I notice several of my portrait painter friends who are living also have pages on Wikipedia. Scriabin1 (talk) 17:58, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi -

I'm not quite sure what you mean by "staff of Wikipedia" - someone working for the Wikimedia Foundation? Wikipedia's policies have certainly evolved over the years, generally in the direction of being much more strict. WP:COI looks quite different now than when it was first written. I recommend reviewing it to see what the rules currently are.

The Richard Whitney article cites no sources. This is a big problem under the current rules of Wikipedia. With no reliable, independent, secondary sources to prove that the information is true and you are notable by Wikipedia's standard for artists, the article will likely be deleted. The articles mentioned in the lede (from Town & Country and Fine Art Connoisseur) might be good sources, but without more information about when they were published/article title/etc., ColinFine was unable to locate them. See his post on the talk page, Talk:Richard Whitney (artist)#Notability. I recommend replying to it. 57.140.16.31 (talk) 18:32, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Fine Arts Connoisseur.com Nov/Dec. 2007. "Todays Masters" Heading "The Human Touch" by Kelly Compton. 4th paragraph. p. 56

"Town & Country Magazine_ Aug. 2001 pp. 45 - 8.

Thanks for your help! Scriabin1 (talk) 19:04, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I'll copy these over to the talk page for you. 57.140.16.31 (talk) 19:11, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

If Colin Fine would send me an email, I can send him a color jpg of the article from Fine Arts Connoisseur. Regarding the posting of my page by a member of the staff here is the email to me (minus Bruce's email address)

From: B Andersen

Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 1:09 PM

To: Richard Whitney & Sandy Sherman

Subject: Re: Richard Whitney

Follow Up Flag: Follow up

Flag Status: Flagged

Hi Mr. Whitney -

I went ahead and posted six images. This took some time as I had to cross-reference those people in your gallery, with those on the portrait list and the wikipedia articles to see who had an article about them. I linked all those people back to your biography. I have a requested some people double check the copyright tag to make sure I got it right.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Whatlinkshere&target=Richard_Whitney_(artist)

I also posted one landscape. If you know of other pertinent paintings, please point them out to me and I would be happy to help you include them in wikipedia.

Best Wishes,

Bruce

I have been listed for 23 years - and now the rules are changed? This seems very unfair! Please help me retain my page! Thank you!! Scriabin1 (talk) 19:59, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Evrik (who created the article) is not a member of staff - Wikipedia itself doesn't have any "staff", per se, just volunteers with different levels of experience and permissions.

Yes, the rules have changed very much over the course of Wikipedia's existence. It's grown up. I'm sure it'll continue to grow long after the current batch of editors is gone - at least I hope so!

I've removed a couple of the images as you asked, but I can't see any really compelling reason to remove the others. Unfortunately there's no way to tell which are most important in your larger body of work. This is the sort of thing we rely on reliable secondary sources to tell us - art critics, etc. 57.140.16.31 (talk) 20:11, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Bruce Anderson created the article on me 23 years ago. I don't know anyone named Evrik.

Thank you for removing some of the images I requested. I hope this means that my site won't be taken down as it has been on Wikipedia for 23 years. I can understand updating the rules, but what applied 23 years ago should still be grandfathered in. Can Colin Fine still take down my site or am I OK now?

Thank you so much for your help! I'm scared to add images to my site. I guess I need others to do it for me now. Scriabin1 (talk) 20:47, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The images will not affect whether or not the article about you will be kept or not. The only thing that matters is whether there are adequate independent reliable sources. If there are, the article should be heavily edited to stick to what those sources say, If there are not, then by our policies, the article should be deleted. Only an admin can delete an article, but any editor can nominate it for deletion according to Wikipedia's deletion policy.

Note that you are referring to the article as "my page" and "my site". We do this casually, but in Wikipedia nobody owns an article, and as far as Wikipedia is concerned, it is not for the benefit of its subject.

You should not edit the article directly, according to WP:PSCOI; but again, the only thing that is worth you, me, or anybody else doing with the article at the moment is adding reliable independent sources. ColinFine (talk) 22:20, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for this information. I have deleted the entire collection and awards list as it would take a great deal of time to contact each institution to verify. I believe this solves the problem of independent reliable sources. I hope this site is OK now. I thank you for your help with this matter!! Scriabin1 (talk) 00:18, 27 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I have deleted the collection list and award list. I believe this takes care of any issues Wikipedia may have with my site. Thank you so much for your help with this matter!! Scriabin1 (talk) 14:11, 27 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]